Hello,
before you get angry on me i read all of the guids but im a little bit confused and because my device isnt at&t or spirnt im afraid that the guides i read arent the right one for me
Ok, so my device is the htc one 801e, i bought it from the official Importer of htc in my country (i dont have any offical htc in my country, so this is the htc for me. they also have their own CID K_18)
my hboot version is 1.54, my android version came out of the box as 4.2.2 and my software version is 2.24.401.1. (the device is S-ON)
I really want to root my device and install new roms (im not a total noob, just in htc :silly but i didnt understand if their is a way to me (since i understand that there isn't way to do s-off with 1.54 hboot) to root my device without my warranty to get hurt (i pay higer price just to have the offical warranty of htc in my country)
so please help me understand what can i do, withot losing my warranty.
THANKES FOR EVERYONE WHO HELP! :laugh::laugh:
No, you will have the status as relocked then.... Warranty would be void.... S off not possible as you know it...
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so there isnt any soultuion for right now?
and if there would be an s-off, i can root my device and then return it to the beginning and the warranty wouldn't be void?
just one more thing, an s-off that i can use with my device is somthing that someone working on that? or that is just a dream?
thankes for the help so far
The procedure to s-off is an exploit. It was patched in the new hboot. The devs are trying to find a way to s-off 1.54, but no one knows when they'll find it, if they ever do. Its not something as simple as say, unlocking a bootloader.
You can still root, and flash custom Roms, but you have to unlock the bootloader via HTCDev. Afterwards your bootloader will have a tampered flag, that can not be removed without s-off. It does not instantly void your warranty, but HTC could deny any warranty claims they deem software related.
So, unlock and risk losing your warranty.
Or, wait patiently for the wonderful devs to cook up a new exploit.
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Thanks a lot!
Now i finally understand the whole s-off idea, but for now i think i will wait a few months and let the devs to ther magic job (hopefully htc won't release a new hboot, although i understand so far that if i first do an s-off and then upgrade my hboot, i will stil have s -off? )
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Hi, new to HTC here
So I plan to get a HTC One and debranding will bethe first thing I'm gonna do. I've been searching though XDA and Google.
I understand the S-off can be achieved using RevOne's method, and if my device is S-offe I can change it to other (Super)CID
I've got few things I'm not really sure though:
1. Does Revone method (and the whole debranding process) require unlocked bootloader, I wish to remain vanilla if possible
2. Do I have to use SuperCID? can I used other CID? I need CID/RUU containing my native language.
2. After changing CID do I need to flash new RUU or can I just wait for the OTA to arrive and replaced my branded FW?
Well.. at the very least, I will appreciate if anyone can point me where to start.
I have somewhat read through the RevOne and SuperCID threads.. but testimony from those with success would be invaluable.
EDIT: did more research.. so should anyone be interested:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327586&highlight=debrand
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183023&highlight=debrand
Any opinion and answers will be still appreciated!
Thanks.
Hi Don't know what your native language is, but if it's Dutch I just debranded my HTC One from T-Mobile and received the latest OTA in the Netherlands.
I wrote a tutorial for it on a Dutch forum.
to put it simple
I S-OFFed an unlocked via Revo method
Changed CID to HTC__001 (need to find the best CID for your country)
Ran the proper RUU
Received OTA
You can then proceed to lock the bootloader again with revo method (won't show tampering and stuff)
and even go S-ON again if you want. (I didn't)
This shall give you a vanilla HTC One without branding that shall receive OTA's directly from HTC.
@Rubman
Thanks for chiming in!
No worry, HTC CID Lists are everywhere on Google (I'd like to use the HTC SEA CID for what it's worth).
I see, I also have received confirmation RevOne can be done without unlocking bootloader.
While I generally understand the debrand process I think it'll be handy to also have your tutorial. Can I get a link?
Don't speak Dutch, but I think Gtranslate will do, hehe.
Thanks again.
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Sure you can have a link, I plan to write the tutorial over here as well but very busy ATM, but it's basicly just a collection of Revone CID change and then RUU install.
http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/40436246#40436246 Just copy the post from the dude with the headbanging dog to Gtranslate and I wish you good luck.
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WhizzWr said:
Hi, new to HTC here
So I plan to get a HTC One and debranding will bethe first thing I'm gonna do. I've been searching though XDA and Google.
I understand the S-off can be achieved using RevOne's method, and if my device is S-offe I can change it to other (Super)CID
I've got few things I'm not really sure though:
1. Does Revone method (and the whole debranding process) require unlocked bootloader, I wish to remain vanilla if possible
2. Do I have to use SuperCID? can I used other CID? I need CID/RUU containing my native language.
2. After changing CID do I need to flash new RUU or can I just wait for the OTA to arrive and replaced my branded FW?
Well.. at the very least, I will appreciate if anyone can point me where to start.
I have somewhat read through the RevOne and SuperCID threads.. but testimony from those with success would be invaluable.
EDIT: did more research.. so should anyone be interested:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327586&highlight=debrand
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183023&highlight=debrand
Any opinion and answers will be still appreciated!
Thanks.
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Did you get the One? What did you discover about CID? Changes GSM band reception? Can this be changed for carrier jumping?
I have a Sprint One. Am no longer with Sprint and wondering what advantage it would be to change CID. I have 2 updates to get and am researching options first. Anyone have knowledge, suggestions?
Rom: Sprint stock 1.29
S-off
Unlocked
T removed
Hboot: 1.44 stock
Twerp 2.6.3
Revone
SuperSU
First of all, I want to say hello to all of you. HTC One is my first HTC smartphone (I'm coming from Samsung devices). There is many significant differences between those two brands when it comes to rooting and moding the software. Still there are some things that are unclear for me and I would appreciate any answers from experienced users or developers.
Some facts about my phone:
Unlocked and S-OFF by revone
SuperCID
Android Revolution HD 12.2 custom rom
Now the main question is: In some cases it is important to update phone with firmware.zip (part of OTA update) file which contains updated drivers, hboot, radio, etc. before flashing newer base of the custom rom. Will my phone stay S-OFF'ed after the update (firmware.zip's contains newer hboots and that's what made me worried).
Thanks!
matee89 said:
First of all, I want to say hello to all of you. HTC One is my first HTC smartphone (I'm coming from Samsung devices). There is many significant differences between those two brands when it comes to rooting and moding the software. Still there are some things that are unclear for me and I would appreciate any answers from experienced users or developers.
Some facts about my phone:
Unlocked and S-OFF by revone
SuperCID
Android Revolution HD 12.2 custom rom
Now the main question is: In some cases it is important to update phone with firmware.zip (part of OTA update) file which contains updated drivers, hboot, radio, etc. before flashing newer base of the custom rom. Will my phone stay S-OFF'ed after the update (firmware.zip's contains newer hboots and that's what made me worried).
Thanks!
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Your phone will always stay s-off unless you specifically command it to go s-on. (which imo is a pointless thing to do)
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matee89 said:
First of all, I want to say hello to all of you. HTC One is my first HTC smartphone (I'm coming from Samsung devices). There is many significant differences between those two brands when it comes to rooting and moding the software. Still there are some things that are unclear for me and I would appreciate any answers from experienced users or developers.
Some facts about my phone:
Unlocked and S-OFF by revone
SuperCID
Android Revolution HD 12.2 custom rom
Now the main question is: In some cases it is important to update phone with firmware.zip (part of OTA update) file which contains updated drivers, hboot, radio, etc. before flashing newer base of the custom rom. Will my phone stay S-OFF'ed after the update (firmware.zip's contains newer hboots and that's what made me worried).
Thanks!
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You will stay S-off through a firmware upgrade. Once S-off, the only way to go S-on is to set the secure flag yourself
Thanks for clarifying this for me !
One more question. I need to relock the bootloader when flashing the firmware.zip, even if I'm S-OFF'ed right?
In case I'm relocked and S-OFF on hboot not supported by revone, can I still downgrade it to the 1.44 without any problems?
I just don't want to ever use htcdev for unlocking.
You shouldn't have yo lock to flash firmware, I didn't. As far as downgrading hboot, since you have s-off, you can downgrade as long as you don't go to s-on for any reason.
But there's not many reasons to downgrade, your phone will still be s-off, unlocked, and without tampered flag on the new hboot. If it does relock, I believe you can use revone to unlock it again, since you've already used the exploit to gain s-off.
Or you can skip all that BS and flash the GE hboot, which can be locked or unlocked by "fastboot OEM lock/unlock"
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Flar2's Bulletproof 4.3
Actually, I found a great topic with firmware flashing guide by Volmer http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365506.
So I didn't need to relock my bootloader or had to wipe anything. For couple of minutes ago, I've updated my firmware from 1.29.x to 2.24 (with updated touch drivers etc.). Worked like charm I've got the newest hboot 1.54 and still S-OFF and unlocked
Thanks for info guys!
matee89 said:
Will my phone stay S-OFF'ed after the update (firmware.zip's contains newer hboots and that's what made me worried).
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There are only a couple of ways to go back to s-on, and they are almost impossible to do accidentally. For practical purposes, unless you were to accept an OTA that HTC specifically designed to reverse s-off (something they have never done and are unlikely to ever do), you are s-off until you decide otherwise.
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There are only a couple of ways to go back to s-on, and they are almost impossible to do accidentally. For practical purposes, unless you were to accept an OTA that HTC specifically designed to reverse s-off (something they have never done and are unlikely to ever do), you are s-off until you decide otherwise.
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That is, unless you go around flashing zips that are labeled "for development purposes only". A few people on here have flashed things when they didn't know what they're doing (and some that know exactly what they're doing) and lost s-off. After that you're stuck with s-on and hboot 1.54.
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CoryTallman said:
That is, unless you go around flashing zips that are labeled "for development purposes only". A few people on here have flashed things when they didn't know what they're doing (and some that know exactly what they're doing) and lost s-off. After that you're stuck with s-on and hboot 1.54.
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That is one of the ways, actually. If you flash an s-on package with the p3 partition, where the secureflag is stored, that will do it. While one cannot flash things accidentally, I suppose it is possible to accidentally reset your secureflag if you're dumb enough to flash any old firmware package you find.
If that's you, you're one of those people who has to learn things the hard way, and your phone will pay the price.
iElvis said:
That is one of the ways, actually. If you flash an s-on package with the p3 partition, where the secureflag is stored, that will do it. While one cannot flash things accidentally, I suppose it is possible to accidentally reset your secureflag if you're dumb enough to flash any old firmware package you find.
If that's you, you're one of those people who has to learn things the hard way, and your phone will pay the price.
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As unlikely as all that is, I figured it would be worth noting. Since Murphys law says that if you tell someone its impossible to lose s-off through flashing firmware, they're going to go find the only old firmware package floating around that would break their s-off.
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So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
Stephen304 said:
So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
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Its not important at all
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With S-off you can flash everything you want on your phone . Downgrade is a most comun reason.
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Stephen304 said:
So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
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Some carriers are the only users option in their area.
Like for me, that carrier would be Verizon. They have great coverage.
But they also happen to be evil and had HTC block our HTC One's MID from being able to use the HTC Bootloader Unlock bin file.
It will fail the initial checks after getting the token from you.
We also have the 1.54 hboot as stock, so there is no using moonshine, or facepalm, or any other previous method as of yet.
So in order for poor folks with carriers that strongarm smaller companies like HTC into doing things against their wishes and our wishes,
S-off allows us to then change CID,MID, etc,...as well as then go and unlock the bootloader as we should be able to do by choice.
That's why they built it and added in a warranty void warning, so we could make that choice if we so choose.
Anyway, that should make it more clear to you now at least, sorry for the extra carrier rant, lol.
Plus the obvious other advantages of flashing radios, kernels, etc,...without doing fastboot.
Ah okay. So S-off does similar to the HTCDev unlock? If I used S-Off instead could I get rid of the ugly warning text on boot?
Htc dev unlock only needed partitions. S-off unlock ALL
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Stephen304 said:
Ah okay. So S-off does similar to the HTCDev unlock? If I used S-Off instead could I get rid of the ugly warning text on boot?
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Yes you could get ride of the warning text with s-off, with s-on you cannot.
Everything what's said above + more , for example if htc one windows version ever gets ported s-off users can have it , we can also convert our device into ge edition / dev edition / flash whatever comes thru your mind , even splash screens , use modified bootloaders , we can also unlock bootloader without need of HTC official unlock process , we can lock it as well ( s-on can only relock it ) we can also completely hide we ever were rooted / unlocked for warranty reasons while s-on can't.
We can also use super cid which allows us to flash any ruu or use any region / carrier roms.
We can also downgrade bootloader or flash any other.
That's mainly it , also for example us with s-off have writeable partitions while for example s-on users still don't on 3.22 base.
And at the end maybe a good thing for you and some less advanced or less knowledgeable ppl s-on is a good thing since with s-on phone is practically indestructible software-wise , while with s-off small mistake even in fastboot could brick the device.
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santod040 said:
Plus the obvious other advantages of flashing radios, kernels, etc,...without doing fastboot.
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With the HTC One, you can flash radios and kernels in the recovery if you unlock the bootloader...
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Stephen304 said:
So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
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To get official OTA with updates to firmware, hboot and everything you have to get them from your carrier, and this depends on your CID. You cannot change this on S-ON. So basically your are bound to your carrier for life, they may but also may not release updates (like for ex. carriers in USA skipped 4.2 if I am not mistaken). You can of course flash custom ROM using dev unlock, but it won't update the firmware.
Ah okay thanks for the info! I have one more question about S-OFF if you don't mind: If I S-OFF and disable the red warning (flashing an unsigned fw), then S-ON again, would the warning come back?
If you do s-on with modified hboot will result an instant and forever brick. Dont do that.
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Stephen304 said:
Ah okay thanks for the info! I have one more question about S-OFF if you don't mind: If I S-OFF and disable the red warning (flashing an unsigned fw), then S-ON again, would the warning come back?
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Why exactly would you want to go back to S-ON?
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While i have cm kitkat on my htc one .is it better to do s-off ?or s-on? What about if i flash another kernal that time i need soff is better?
Please send me link of best kernal i want flash it with cm .
Thanks
Do you need s-off, do you really know what s-off is and how to use it ?
Ask yourself those questions first, because if the answer is no to any of the above then stay s-on, its very easy to kill your phone for good when s-off.
You can flash rom's and kernels with s-on, just need to unlock your bootloader at HTC Dev.
s-on is there to protect people who don't know what they are doing with s-off, there's plenty of threads around here from people killing there phones who had s-off and didn't really know what they were doing with it.
S off will help you in these situations
Tempered flag removal
Flashing ota manually
Flashing any firmware means downgrade
Change mid so you can convert your phone to GPE or Developers edition
You can "Lock" phone instead of " Relock" means full back to Warranty
If you keep S On it will prevent you from all above
Just 1 benefit you can't flash other firmware so less chance of brick
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Hey all, I recently acquired an HTC one m7 and I previously had an xperia z1. I had unlocked the bootloader and rooted my previous phone but coming to m7's page I've found that there are many things new here. First is the S-Off business.
I basically wanted to ask if there's a specific order in which I should go. For example S-off first, then root then unlock bootloader or anything like that.
And secondly, for the xperia line, there was a tool called Flashtool that basically did all the things you need to unlock/root your phone. I was wondering if there's something like that for the One M7 so that I can flash stock firmware if need be.
Also, I'm on kitkat 4.4.3 HBOOT 2.49 so should I keep some things in mind?
Also, what is CID?
Sorry for so many questions, any help is appreciated
Thank you!
uhh, I will tell you what i know here related to your questions.
Firstly, if you want to customize your phone, first thing is to unlock your bootloader which is easy to do. Then you need to flash a custom recovery. After that you can do what you like.as to s-off, if you don't have special requirements,I think it's not a must step.
Secondly,there is indeed a tool for htc one.you may find it in one's development forum.
May that help you!
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If I unlock bootloader before S-off, will I be able to get back "UNLOCKED" status or will it be "RELOCKED"
ggnoobteam said:
If I unlock bootloader before S-off, will I be able to get back "UNLOCKED" status or will it be "RELOCKED"
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yeah you can get back to full locked status, but only with s-off, be careful though, theres not alot about for the dual sim really, you can pretty much find everything in the general section for the dual. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495697
I think for your HBOOT, use Rumrunner to s-off. http://rumrunner.us/
EDIT: sorry for your HBOOT version you needed to use firewater s-off tool, but as thats discontinued, you'll have to try sunshine s-off tool which will cost $25 if it can s-off your device, it will run some checks first, if it can then you pay and it proceeds, if it cant it will let you know why and you dont pay: http://theroot.ninja/
if I remember correctly, CID is carrier identification.
the main things that matter, and that you need to take note of it your planning on changing them are CID, MID, HBOOT version and OS or version main (same thing really)