While i have cm kitkat on my htc one .is it better to do s-off ?or s-on? What about if i flash another kernal that time i need soff is better?
Please send me link of best kernal i want flash it with cm .
Thanks
Do you need s-off, do you really know what s-off is and how to use it ?
Ask yourself those questions first, because if the answer is no to any of the above then stay s-on, its very easy to kill your phone for good when s-off.
You can flash rom's and kernels with s-on, just need to unlock your bootloader at HTC Dev.
s-on is there to protect people who don't know what they are doing with s-off, there's plenty of threads around here from people killing there phones who had s-off and didn't really know what they were doing with it.
S off will help you in these situations
Tempered flag removal
Flashing ota manually
Flashing any firmware means downgrade
Change mid so you can convert your phone to GPE or Developers edition
You can "Lock" phone instead of " Relock" means full back to Warranty
If you keep S On it will prevent you from all above
Just 1 benefit you can't flash other firmware so less chance of brick
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Hi All,
So I've read all the threads with regards to rooting, custom roms etc but I just want a little clarification. My HTC One is on a UK Vodafone rom which I'd like to remove and replace with a stock HTC one or potentially one of the custom roms at a later date.
Just so I am clear in order to do this for a stock rom I need to S-Off and change the CID, Root and install something along the lines of CWM as the boot loader? Then in order for me to receive updates when HTC releases them I have to have S-On again?
Further I notice there are CWM stock HTC nandroid backups. Is this the easier way to go on the understanding that I won't receive HTC updates? Whilst I can see plenty of tutorials showing me how to do all of the above and I would have no problem in doing them I'm trying to understand if S-Off is a step I would need or would benefit me.
Thanks for any advice.
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Hi All,
So I've read all the threads with regards to rooting, custom roms etc but I just want a little clarification. My HTC One is on a UK Vodafone rom which I'd like to remove and replace with a stock HTC one or potentially one of the custom roms at a later date.
Just so I am clear in order to do this for a stock rom I need to S-Off and change the CID, Root and install something along the lines of CWM as the boot loader? Then in order for me to receive updates when HTC releases them I have to have S-On again?
Further I notice there are CWM stock HTC nandroid backups. Is this the easier way to go on the understanding that I won't receive HTC updates? Whilst I can see plenty of tutorials showing me how to do all of the above and I would have no problem in doing them I'm trying to understand if S-Off is a step I would need or would benefit me.
Thanks for any advice.
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If all you want to do is flash a custom rom then you don't need to s-off your device. You do need to unlock the bootloader and then flash a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP and then you'll be good for rom flashing.
However if you do unlock the bootloader and flash recovery without s-off you're device will show this in the bootloader screen and may cause you a problem if you need to make a warranty claim.
S-off, amongst other uses, does allow you to unlock the bootloader and relock it without anyone knowing.
Be aware..... achieving and having s-off can lead to risks of bricking so you need to read up about it and be comfortable with what you're going to do.
Check out this guide here for unlocking and flashing without s-off.
Also, latest Vodafone HTC Ones are already sold with Hboot version 1.54 and JB 4.2.2
S-off is currently not possible with the upgraded firmware
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So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
Stephen304 said:
So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
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Its not important at all
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With S-off you can flash everything you want on your phone . Downgrade is a most comun reason.
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Stephen304 said:
So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
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Some carriers are the only users option in their area.
Like for me, that carrier would be Verizon. They have great coverage.
But they also happen to be evil and had HTC block our HTC One's MID from being able to use the HTC Bootloader Unlock bin file.
It will fail the initial checks after getting the token from you.
We also have the 1.54 hboot as stock, so there is no using moonshine, or facepalm, or any other previous method as of yet.
So in order for poor folks with carriers that strongarm smaller companies like HTC into doing things against their wishes and our wishes,
S-off allows us to then change CID,MID, etc,...as well as then go and unlock the bootloader as we should be able to do by choice.
That's why they built it and added in a warranty void warning, so we could make that choice if we so choose.
Anyway, that should make it more clear to you now at least, sorry for the extra carrier rant, lol.
Plus the obvious other advantages of flashing radios, kernels, etc,...without doing fastboot.
Ah okay. So S-off does similar to the HTCDev unlock? If I used S-Off instead could I get rid of the ugly warning text on boot?
Htc dev unlock only needed partitions. S-off unlock ALL
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Stephen304 said:
Ah okay. So S-off does similar to the HTCDev unlock? If I used S-Off instead could I get rid of the ugly warning text on boot?
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Yes you could get ride of the warning text with s-off, with s-on you cannot.
Everything what's said above + more , for example if htc one windows version ever gets ported s-off users can have it , we can also convert our device into ge edition / dev edition / flash whatever comes thru your mind , even splash screens , use modified bootloaders , we can also unlock bootloader without need of HTC official unlock process , we can lock it as well ( s-on can only relock it ) we can also completely hide we ever were rooted / unlocked for warranty reasons while s-on can't.
We can also use super cid which allows us to flash any ruu or use any region / carrier roms.
We can also downgrade bootloader or flash any other.
That's mainly it , also for example us with s-off have writeable partitions while for example s-on users still don't on 3.22 base.
And at the end maybe a good thing for you and some less advanced or less knowledgeable ppl s-on is a good thing since with s-on phone is practically indestructible software-wise , while with s-off small mistake even in fastboot could brick the device.
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santod040 said:
Plus the obvious other advantages of flashing radios, kernels, etc,...without doing fastboot.
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With the HTC One, you can flash radios and kernels in the recovery if you unlock the bootloader...
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Stephen304 said:
So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
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To get official OTA with updates to firmware, hboot and everything you have to get them from your carrier, and this depends on your CID. You cannot change this on S-ON. So basically your are bound to your carrier for life, they may but also may not release updates (like for ex. carriers in USA skipped 4.2 if I am not mistaken). You can of course flash custom ROM using dev unlock, but it won't update the firmware.
Ah okay thanks for the info! I have one more question about S-OFF if you don't mind: If I S-OFF and disable the red warning (flashing an unsigned fw), then S-ON again, would the warning come back?
If you do s-on with modified hboot will result an instant and forever brick. Dont do that.
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Stephen304 said:
Ah okay thanks for the info! I have one more question about S-OFF if you don't mind: If I S-OFF and disable the red warning (flashing an unsigned fw), then S-ON again, would the warning come back?
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Why exactly would you want to go back to S-ON?
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Hey, I have an AT&T HTC one m7 running 4.1.2 and hboot 1.44
I was wondering which steps should I take to convert to a GPE in order to get an updated version of stock android (as I am not feeling very comfortable with HTC Sense).
Someone told me that I should do S-Off now and be happy ever after lol. Is it worth it??? If I have problems with camera tint, could I get it fixed or am I gonna have problems claiming the warranty?
1) What procedure should I use to do S-Off ??? I've seen like 3 different ones.
2) Doing S-Off also implies getting the bootloader unlocked right?
If you guys could point me in the right direction I'd be very grateful. Which guides I should follow to get from where I am, to a fully updated GPE phone?
Piachnp said:
Hey, I have an AT&T HTC one m7 running 4.1.2 and hboot 1.44
I was wondering which steps should I take to convert to a GPE in order to get an updated version of stock android (as I am not feeling very comfortable with HTC Sense).
Someone told me that I should do S-Off now and be happy ever after lol. Is it worth it??? If I have problems with camera tint, could I get it fixed or am I gonna have problems claiming the warranty?
1) What procedure should I use to do S-Off ??? I've seen like 3 different ones.
2) Doing S-Off also implies getting the bootloader unlocked right?
If you guys could point me in the right direction I'd be very grateful. Which guides I should follow to get from where I am, to a fully updated GPE phone?
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1) The camera tint cannot be corrected unless you're on stock Sense firmware. Prior to S-OFF and a GPE ROM/firmware, the bootloader needs to be unlocked and phone must be rooted. Bootloader unlock and root voids warranty
2) First, unlock the bootloader. Then, flash a custom recovery and then, root. Then use Revone to S-OFF. HBOOT 1.44 is the least problematic, S-OFF is quite straightforward.
3) Yes, bootloader unlock is the first step towards S-OFF. It'll wipe the phone completely. So, make a backup first
Also note: To get the latest stock android build on your One, you have 2 options:
1) Complete conversion using an RUU. Link here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2358781
2) Flash a GPE-based ROM in custom recovery (Eg, Skydragon, ARHD, SinLess, etc.)
A full conversion involves much more steps; a ROM is more straightforward. You'll the the exact same GPE experience on either
Thank you for clarifying the steps. Every phone is different, and I got very overwhelmed with the info on this forum.
I'll get started with the bootloader unlocking and rooting!
I have Htc one m7 801n htc_europe with 4.4.3 android and Hboot 1.57.
Is it safe to root this android and hboot because i read that some users have problems with this configuration (here and on other sites)? Something special about rooting procedure on this hboot?
boc11 said:
I have Htc one m7 801n htc_europe with 4.4.3 android and Hboot 1.57.
Is it safe to root this android and hboot because i read that some users have problems with this configuration (here and on other sites)? Something special about rooting procedure on this hboot?
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Whenever you root or modify any phone, there is a element of risk no procedure is foolproof or certain for each device. Best you could do is follow the procedures closely and if you have questions get answers to them before proceeding. I do not know of any special rooting procedure for the hboot 1.57, however it is difficult to achieve S-OFF with your hboot.
like majmoz said, there is nothing different rooting the M7 on hboot 1.57. Just make sure you know how to get back to stock before proceeding. Going back to stock will often require S-OFF and like majmoz said, Its a little more difficult on hboot 1.57 and even impossible for some phones. If you don't care about going back to stock (i.e no more warranty) then you'll probly don't need s-off but you will be stuck using custom roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one#root
Well, for now i will use the stock, just want the root and custom recovery. I don`t care about the warranty.
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all went fine
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after installing UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.65 and power off the phone starts to restart on 40 seconds after boot... good that i made backup right after install of the recovery
Hi to everybody. I am planning to buy an used M7 with 1.55 Hboot.
So I was planning to Unlock, Root and then S-Off with Rumrunner.
But when I do this how can I update the phone to Lollipop stock to flash a custom rom like Viper (I've red that I can't flash it if I am not in Lollipop stock)?
Or have I to do every OTA Updates, upgrade to stock Lollipop, than do Unlock, Root and S-Off by Sunshine?
I really do not understand, it's very difficult to find this information, I've red lots of posts but I am still confused!
Thank's a lot!
HarryCustom said:
Hi to everybody. I am planning to buy an used M7 with 1.55 Hboot.
So I was planning to Unlock, Root and then S-Off with Rumrunner.
But when I do this how can I update the phone to Lollipop stock to flash a custom rom like Viper (I've red that I can't flash it if I am not in Lollipop stock)?
Or have I to do every OTA Updates, upgrade to stock Lollipop, than do Unlock, Root and S-Off by Sunshine?
I really do not understand, it's very difficult to find this information, I've red lots of posts but I am still confused!
Thank's a lot!
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You should definitively try to s-off for free on hboot 1.55, better not to update the phone until you have achieved s-off.
Once s-off, you'll be able to update to anything you want using a ruu for example. Newer roms doesn't really requires lollipop OS but the firmware update that comes with it (7.xx.xxx.x)
You'll then update the firmware to a 7.xx.xxx.x version using a firmware.zip file or a full ruu.zip. Ask help when ready to flash the firmware to be sure you flash the right one as you can brick your phone if not done properly.
Also note that you don't need s-off to update your phone and flash a rom but its a good idea to achieve it now before updating. Its always easier to recover a bricked phone when its s-off but also remember its also easier to brick a s-off phone if you flash the wrong file so do not hesitate to ask questions before flashing, especially when flashing firmware files.
alray said:
Also note that you don't need s-off to update your phone and flash a rom but its a good idea to achieve it now before updating. Its always easier to recover a bricked phone when its s-off but also remember its also easier to brick a s-off phone if you flash the wrong file so do not hesitate to ask questions before flashing, especially when flashing firmware files.
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Thank you very much I think the phone is an HTC One M7 801e "U" version, so as I understand well, after S-Off, I have to find the right RUU, flash it and than flash my favourite rom!