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[Q] Brick Kindle fire HD 7", red screen after Fireflash.

hello everyboddy !
I have a rooted kindle fire HD 7" with the last update and i have attempted to install:
2nd bootloader
Fireflash
TWRP
CM10
But... when i have try to install twrp with Fireflash a red screen is a appeared after the reboot.
I'm a noob and i'm a little panicked !!! Can you help me to unbrick my kindle, i'm ready to make evrything but i have only in my hand my kindle and the original cable.
Please XDA's community !!!

buy a fastboot cable
this helped me with a red screen http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951254

The reason this happened was because you was on 7.3x of the AmazonOS, you needed to flash the 7.23 bootloader first before installing the second bootloader. Only a factory cable and the restore tool will save you now.

I did the same thing and the fast boot cable saved me. Good investment.
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Also I suggest using hashcodes method rather than using fireflash to install TWRP and cm 10.1. It may look complicated but I've used his method on 3 kindles successfully and I'm a bit of a noob Just make sure you open the command window from the folder in which you saved the files - shift +right click mouse >open command window here. Sorry if you already know this. It just took me ages to figure that out lol! The link is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40563958
Sent from my CM10.1 Kindle Fire Hd

Glad I'm not the only one. Have the red screen too.. ordered a cable from skorpn.. can't wait to get it and unbrick this thing. Feeling lost without my device.

i have same issue, red screen on boot. I got fastboot cable and installed tool and image. Now after selecting option 1 it just sits on < waiting for device >
if i run as administrator it says 'fastboot' is not recognized

Pls am in d same dilemma
goodknight001 said:
i have same issue, red screen on boot. I got fastboot cable and installed tool and image. Now after selecting option 1 it just sits on < waiting for device >
if i run as administrator it says 'fastboot' is not recognized
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Am in the same dilemma as well pls kindly post a solution in case u found a way to resolve. I also bought a fastboot/factory cable as well but cant figure out how to make thingz work

bu,p pleas!

davelinc said:
Also I suggest using hashcodes method rather than using fireflash to install TWRP and cm 10.1. It may look complicated but I've used his method on 3 kindles successfully and I'm a bit of a noob Just make sure you open the command window from the folder in which you saved the files - shift +right click mouse >open command window here. Sorry if you already know this. It just took me ages to figure that out lol! The link is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40563958
Sent from my CM10.1 Kindle Fire Hd
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Actually, I've used the FireFlash method twice now on my Kindle Fire HD, and it's worked flawlessly both times, and takes less than five minutes to complete. But hey, whatever works.

i was also stuck in a red screen loop!
you really need a factory cable
what i did was turn off the kindle fire hd then plug in the cable, i turned on the device, and boom just use the toolkit which you can find on the development thread
i hope this helps!!! i was so frustrated as to why it wouldnt work
also you must have the kindle fire adb drivers.
ONLY FOR THOSE WITH A BROKEN POWER BUTTON: and if you dont happen to have a functioning power button like me, wait until the tablet dies, after just plug in the tablet to your pc with the factory cable that way when it finally recharges it boots up in fastboot, otherwise your tablet will be in red screen forever

[Q] Stuck on Kindle Fire Bootloop

This is my 1st time asking for help since I really have never needed it. I got a kindle fire HD 7" and rooted it. I added TWRP and a 2nd bootloader. For a long time I was stuck in TWRP and every time I tried to reboot it would just go back to TWRP. This morning I tried using the Kindle fire utility and selected option one. It seemed like it worked. I then rebooted and now I am stuck on the Kindle Fire boot screen. It shows Kindle fire on the screen, goes black for a few seconds, then back to the kindle fire, then goes black again. It keeps doing this over and over again. I am not able to get back into TWRP now. I am not sure what to do at this point. I have read just about every thread out there and cannot find a similar situation to mine. Any guidence would be appreciated.

OK mistake number one, do not use kindle fire utility on a kfhd, you could easily hard brick the kindle. That was designed for first gen it's and they work a bit differently than yours. OK now that I got that out of the way, does your kindle still have the logo turn blue?
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Thanks for the quick reponse. When I installed the 2nd bootloader and TWRP I got into the bootloop. At that time when it would bootloop it would go from orange to blue twice before going back to TWRP again. After I made the mistake of using the Kindle FIre utility it now just keeps on the kindle fire start-up screen and it is always orange.

You are either going to need a fastboot cable to fix or have some luck getting a command to work... If you open the device manager, and plug your kindle in while its off, does a Tate device show up for a few seconds? If so try updating the drivers on the Tate device to the ones in my signature. From there you should be able to use a fastboot command to get the kindle to boot into fastboot. The command would be "fastboot -i 0x1949 getvar product", but if your not seeing a Tate device then this command will be useless, and I don't wanna finish explaining how to use this command until I know your PC is detecting it, assuming you don't know how to use the fastboot command by itself from a command prompt since I don't know your skill level with android stuff and windows command prompt stuff.
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Thanks again for replying. I would say my experience level is low when it comes to command prompts. I get the basics though. I will check when I get home if I see if a Tate device shows up when I connect with my usb and get back to you. Even when I was in TWRP I was having difficulty seeing my device on the computer to add a custom rom to the sd card. I tried sideloading and tried mounting the sd card but nothing worked. I wish now I would have just left it in TWRP and did some more research. Live and learn I guess. I will let you know what I find out. Thanks again.

Ok. I turned off the Kindle and then attached the USB to the computer. Nothing is being recognized. I see now too that my adb interface is also gone. It appears the computer is no longer picking up anything. When I attach the Kindle to the computer it starts the bootloop again flashing the kindle fire screen over and over again. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks again.

I think your only hope is a fast boot cable, and honestly or just depends how broke it is whether it works or not
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Thanks for the reply. So let's say I get a factory cable and I can get into fastboot mode; what are my next steps?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33156486
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Ok. I wanted to clarify what I did to get in the situation that I am in. I rooted my device with no issues. I then decided to install a 2nd bootloader and TWRP. After all was done my Kindle Fire HD 7" booted to TWRP. I could not get my computer to show my device so I was stuck. Every time I would reboot it would flash kindle fire in orange, then in Blue, then in Orange, the in Blue then would go back to TWRP. I then put the device with the USB attached to my computer and from TWRP I put the device into fastboot mode. I then used the KFHD SRT v1.3.5 tool and opened the SR.Tool.bat and chose option 1. After it was done I rebooted and now I am stuck on the Kindle fire screen (in orange) and it will show for a few seconds, turn off, then go back to the kindle fire screen again (in orange) and just keep repeating. I ordered a factory cable to try to get back to fastboot mode but since it did not work for me the 1st time I was wondering if anyone had any ideas for me. Thanks in advance.

Are you sure it is a factory/fastboot cable? I would either get them from skorn or proxenusa since I know they are reliable.
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Hello again. I don't have the factory cable yet; I just ordered it yesterday. When I used the fastboot mode the last time I entered the mode from TWRP and was connected to my computer with a regular usb charger. When it was in fastboot mode I selected the option 1 from the tool I mentioned in my previous post. I am just wondering if the fastboot did not work with the KFHD tool I used because I did not have a factory cable connected hence why I am stuck on the Kindle fire screen. What do you think?

No, typically it is said to use a fastboot cable just to get the device into fastboot, then plug the normal cable in afterward.
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For future reference, when you get your kindle back up and running again, you need to flash a custom ROM to boot. The TWRP boot loop stems from trying to boot into stock ROM, it won't work. So just put a ROM on your kindle before you flash bootloader + twrp next time.
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Kindle fire stuck in Bootloop

Members,
I need your help for my KINDLE fire 7 " HD stuck at bootlogo. I just came back from work and switched on my KINDLE but it booted and got stuck at 'KINDLE FIRE' boot logo. I tried every possible troubleshooting method, like giving hard reset but nothing works. It switches ON and gets stuck at the LOGO. Going by the forums I know that I need a fastboot cable which I have already ordered and expecting the delivery.
Can you plz guide me how to proceed once I have the cable with me ?
Thanks in advance for your time.

ank707 said:
Members,
I need your help for my KINDLE fire 7 " HD stuck at bootlogo. I just came back from work and switched on my KINDLE but it booted and got stuck at 'KINDLE FIRE' boot logo. I tried every possible troubleshooting method, like giving hard reset but nothing works. It switches ON and gets stuck at the LOGO. Going by the forums I know that I need a fastboot cable which I have already ordered and expecting the delivery.
Can you plz guide me how to proceed once I have the cable with me ?
Thanks in advance for your time.
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You'll be fine once your fastboot cord arrives. Reference this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37169349 to return to 7.2.3 stock. And reference this video http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oaNM-lt_aHw&desktop_uri=/watch?v=oaNM-lt_aHw to get your ADB drivers properly installed.
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LinearEquation said:
You'll be fine once your fastboot cord arrives. Reference this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37169349 to return to 7.2.3 stock. And reference this video http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oaNM-lt_aHw&desktop_uri=/watch?v=oaNM-lt_aHw to get your ADB drivers properly installed.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire HD running CM 10.2 using xda app-developers
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Thanks bro....as soon as I will give it a try I will let you know. Thanks again

LinearEquation said:
You'll be fine once your fastboot cord arrives. Reference this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37169349 to return to 7.2.3 stock. And reference this video http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oaNM-lt_aHw&desktop_uri=/watch?v=oaNM-lt_aHw to get your ADB drivers properly installed.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire HD running CM 10.2 using xda app-developers
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Hey brother....help me please. I now have the factory cable and I have gone through the page that u suggested. But there seems to be instructions without factory cable and I am getting a lot confused. Can you please suggest me how to proceed on this ?

ank707 said:
Hey brother....help me please. I now have the factory cable and I have gone through the page that u suggested. But there seems to be instructions without factory cable and I am getting a lot confused. Can you please suggest me how to proceed on this ?
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Fastboot cord uses fastboot commands while in fastboot. This is the link to Kindle Fire FirstAid http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096888 Once you follow the steps for setup and run it, you will choose number 3 to go back to 7.2.3 When asked if you want to reboot into fastboot, choose no because you are in fastboot.
You can use the regular USB to get into fastboot mode but not now that you are in a bootloop. After running KFFA to restore to 7.2.3 you will also use it to root and remove OTA updates then install gapps or if you are going to go custom romm with 2nd bootloader and TWRP recovery, skip gapps and move on to the latter. Do NOT use KFFA to install TWRP/2nd bootloader or any ROM. Use FireFlash.
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I'm heading to bed in an hour. Be 12 hours and I will be back on again. If you have questions or get confused, ask away so we can get you squared away.
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LinearEquation said:
Fastboot cord uses fastboot commands while in fastboot. This is the link to Kindle Fire FirstAid http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096888 Once you follow the steps for setup and run it, you will choose number 3 to go back to 7.2.3 When asked if you want to reboot into fastboot, choose no because you are in fastboot.
You can use the regular USB to get into fastboot mode but not now that you are in a bootloop. After running KFFA to restore to 7.2.3 you will also use it to root and remove OTA updates then install gapps or if you are going to go custom romm with 2nd bootloader and TWRP recovery, skip gapps and move on to the latter. Do NOT use KFFA to install TWRP/2nd bootloader or any ROM. Use FireFlash.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire HD running CM 10.2 using xda app-developers
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I'm heading to bed in an hour. Be 12 hours and I will be back on again. If you have questions or get confused, ask away so we can get you squared away.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire HD running CM 10.2 using xda app-developers
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Yes, I did that and then reboot my Kindle. But it's same and still stuck at boot logo.
Edit: Now it doesn't even turn ON, seems like the battery has drained. Tried wall charger for all night but still dont boots up. Plugged in the fastboot cable but nothing is happening. Please help :crying::crying:

ank707 said:
Yes, I did that and then reboot my Kindle. But it's same and still stuck at boot logo.
Edit: Now it doesn't even turn ON, seems like the battery has drained. Tried wall charger for all night but still dont boots up. Plugged in the fastboot cable but nothing is happening. Please help :crying::crying:
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So you're saying that you had a bootloop and you ran Kindle Fire FirstAide. Which numbers/options did you press? Plugging that fastboot cord in will power your Kindle Fire HD and send it into fastboot no matter the battery charge. Where did you get the fastboot cord from? A reliable source? I'm only asking because if the battery were low and the wire that connects pins 1 to 4 (think) that energize the Kindle into fastboot mode are somehow faulty, then this would stop the kindle from going into fastboot. However, if the fastboot cord is working, it would seem you have a hard brick. I will look around to see if there is a solution for this.

LinearEquation said:
So you're saying that you had a bootloop and you ran Kindle Fire FirstAide. Which numbers/options did you press? Plugging that fastboot cord in will power your Kindle Fire HD and send it into fastboot no matter the battery charge. Where did you get the fastboot cord from? A reliable source? I'm only asking because if the battery were low and the wire that connects pins 1 to 4 (think) that energize the Kindle into fastboot mode are somehow faulty, then this would stop the kindle from going into fastboot. However, if the fastboot cord is working, it would seem you have a hard brick. I will look around to see if there is a solution for this.
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Thanks for help mate. I bought it from amazon and it seemed to be the most reliable source http://www.amazon.com/EarlyBirdSavi...ywords=kindle+factory+cable&tag=s601000020-20
I firstly reboot the bootloader couple of times like people suggested me. When that didn't help I restored it and like i gave a detail in other post that it took fair amount of time like 45 mins of reading and writing the .img files. Even the message was prompted that 'Your kindle has been restored to 7.2.3, the only thing is that all this while the display of my Kindle didn't changed and was fixed on 'Fastboot Kindle fire' logo. I was disappointed with this device from start due to that crappy kindle OS which made it way too slow and things kept freezing and crashing all the time. Since I am in colombia and used a freight service for this cable to be delivered, i ended up paying 30 USD for the cable. I don't think I will be sending it for repair , it just don't worth it the expenses for the repair and the shipping cost from Colombia and vice versa. May be will keep experimenting and looking on XDA if at some point of time hard brick issue could be fixed.

Not to ring up the past...
But, I cannot get my kindle to work with adb to save my life.
I have the adb drivers
Fastboot finds the device
Its stuck in bootloop so the only to communicate with it is though fastboot cable.
please help

eddielane71488 said:
But, I cannot get my kindle to work with adb to save my life.
I have the adb drivers
Fastboot finds the device
Its stuck in bootloop so the only to communicate with it is though fastboot cable.
please help
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adb doesn't work with fastboot, only fastboot commands work with fastboot.

Stuck in bootloop after accidentally converting KFHD Launcher to user app on Titanium
Please Help! My KFHD IS Stuck in bootloop after I accidentally converted Kindle Launcher from system app to user app on Titanium. the kindle continues to run in the background but the image is stuck on the animated kindle fire logo. Any ideas/help would be really appreciated! Thanks

Compilasian said:
Please Help! My KFHD IS Stuck in bootloop after I accidentally converted Kindle Launcher from system app to user app on Titanium. the kindle continues to run in the background but the image is stuck on the animated kindle fire logo. Any ideas/help would be really appreciated! Thanks
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Reflash the system img. I don't know if you can make changes to an apk via adb.

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Rushead said:
Reflash the system img. I don't know if you can make changes to an apk via adb.
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Thanks for the reply! Unfortunately, I can't turn ADB debugging on because there is no way to get access to the menu system. Is there another manner of fastbooting and of reflashing image you can possibly recommend to bypass not having access to the launcher? Again thanks in advance!

I'm not sure what is possible via fb other than adb. Try googling flash factory image & see what you find. Sorry I can't be of more help.

Compilasian said:
Thanks for the reply! Unfortunately, I can't turn ADB debugging on because there is no way to get access to the menu system. Is there another manner of fastbooting and of reflashing image you can possibly recommend to bypass not having access to the launcher? Again thanks in advance!
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Yes,there is. The following commands will flash the boot,recovery and system images while in fastboot.
Code:
fastboot -i 0x1949 flash boot boot.img
fastboot -i 0x1949 flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot -i 0x1949 flash system system.img

Hi im having problems with my kindle fire hd 2nd gen. I rooted and installed cm12 or 13 on it and it was working well but i lost root so i flashed Supersu through twrp now my device is bootlooping on the amazon fire boot screen. I couldn't get into fastboot so bought a fastboot cable which has arrived today (2 weeks from china) now when i plug it in the device goes into fastboot mode but my windows 10 shows it in device manager as Other Devices Tate -pvt-08. I cant issue commands through ADB (adb devices just shows nothing connected) if i enter the getvar command i just get waiting for device. I've reinstalled the kindle device driver and still no joy.
I also made a complete backup of my kindle before i rooted it which i have stored safely. but i need to know how i can push them to my kindle and how to make my laptop see the kindle.
I'm struggling now and pretty lost with it all if someone could lend a hand and tell me what im doing wrong

Corduroysack said:
Hi im having problems with my kindle fire hd 2nd gen. I rooted and installed cm12 or 13 on it and it was working well but i lost root so i flashed Supersu through twrp now my device is bootlooping on the amazon fire boot screen. I couldn't get into fastboot so bought a fastboot cable which has arrived today (2 weeks from china) now when i plug it in the device goes into fastboot mode but my windows 10 shows it in device manager as Other Devices Tate -pvt-08. I cant issue commands through ADB (adb devices just shows nothing connected) if i enter the getvar command i just get waiting for device. I've reinstalled the kindle device driver and still no joy.
I also made a complete backup of my kindle before i rooted it which i have stored safely. but i need to know how i can push them to my kindle and how to make my laptop see the kindle.
I'm struggling now and pretty lost with it all if someone could lend a hand and tell me what im doing wrong
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hi did you ever figure out the issue? i'm also in the same boat, was running with cm13, tried to flash super su using twrp got the boot loop. will go till the white and orange logo and reboots

thomas69k said:
hi did you ever figure out the issue? i'm also in the same boat, was running with cm13, tried to flash super su using twrp got the boot loop. will go till the white and orange logo and reboots
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cant remember what i did tbh, ive just fired my kndle up first time in a while and the rom im using is Omni Rom 6.0 its old (2016) but works. i remember using adb to push backed up partition images and literally started from scratch. Not much help but it was quite some time ago
thinking of trying this rom at some point as its 2018
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/u7sb7p10ik7v0/tate

[Q] Kindle Fire is stuck in Logo after reinstalling TWRP

Hello, everyone!
Yesterday I tried to flash CM10 in my kindle fire (already running CM9).
I followed the Cyanogen Mod site (wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_otter) instructions.
I downloaded Kindle fire utility 0.9.9 (from CM site), and started the process of updating TWRP. At some point of the installation, KFU rebooted my device in fastboot mode, and kept waiting an awnser from Kindle.
It was taking a bit too long, so I restarted the tablet. Now it keeps on the "Kindle Fire" screen forever, and don't respond to ADB anymore (the "adb device" command don't return anything).
I believe it is not bricked yet, because when we connect it to the PC, it does that connection sound. However, I can't reach it with ADB anymore.
Can Anyone give me an advice for this situation?
Thanks a lot !!

You got very lucky, kindle fire utility is not meant for second generation devices, usually using it results in a hard brick. The correct way to update twrp is to grab the latest version's flashable zip from the dev section for your device and flash it from inside twrp and reboot. If you no longer have the blue logo and it is a 7" device you will need a fastboot cable, if you do have a blue logo or this is a 8.9" device you won't need a fastboot cable to fix, but you still need to get it into fastboot mode to reflash some partitions back to stock to fix this unless you get a blue logo in which case you could probably just flash the recovery but from what you said I'm assuming you don't get the blue logo anymore. And only the 8.9" models tend to be detected briefly while passing the bootloader.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire HD using Tapatalk

In fact, my Kindle fire is a 1st generation one! I had already used KFU to flash CM9 on it (before, it had stock OS) .
Do this fact help in any form?
And, about the cable, I will search one imediatly!!
Thanks for your reply!

O well then this is the wrong device forum on xda... If its a kf1 then I think fastboot cable will still apply to this. Not positive, kf1's aren't my specialty, while my mother has one I never did much beyond rooting and installing twrp. Flashed a Ubuntu touch preview os on it once but that's about it.
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Kindle Fire HD 7 (Tate) bricked beyond my wildest dreams!!

Hey all,
I am in quite a conundrum. My Kindle Fire HD 7" tate device is bricked. Let me explain what I have done so far...
1. I first installed TWRP using the standard and I was planning to install CM 11 on it
2. I accidentally deleted the CM 11 rom files while doing a wipe on TWRP
3. Tried side-loading the rom but somehow ADB sideload didn't work and the device was not being recognized and sideload would hang for hang (tried waiting as long as 1 hour)
4. Then I tried to reinstall FireOS using the KFDH System.img Restore tool from the forums here and managed to somehow uninstall TWRP and get it into a infinite logo loop
5. So tried using various methods to reinstall either TWRP or FireOS and after some 3-4 different utilities that I found on the forums here, I finally tried Kindle Fire Utilitiy 0.9.9 to unbrick it. Tried changing the bootmode to recovery (5000) and have managed to brick it for good.
We are now in the present day (after step #5). As soon as I turn on the Kindle, it shows KF orange logo and then switches to Fastboot mode even though the Factory USB cable is not plugged in. Once I plug it in, it goes into infinite loop with screen going off and windows giving me a constant USB plug-in and un-plug sound. The device is being detected as OMAP 4440 (or 4400?) and I am unable to do anything at all. Have I gone to no-man's land? Or can I still salvage the kindle?
Looking for some help... Any help :crying:

You should plug in the fb cable with the Kindle powered off. See if that gives you a stable fb state wherein you can push your files via adb.

Rushead said:
You should plug in the fb cable with the Kindle powered off. See if that gives you a stable fb state wherein you can push your files via adb.
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Hey when I plug it in to the fb cable it boots up into the orange and white kindle fire logo and goes into fastboot and then starts re-loading in windows. After plugging in, if I shutdown the device by pressing power button for 15 seconds, the re-loading in windows stops but after than adb doesn't recognise the device - says error no device

"reloading in windows"? What do you mean? It should be powered down when you plug it in, then when it boots into fb mode, you're ready to adb.

OMAP 4400 is a hard brick. You flashed KFU and now the bootloader is screwed. You will need to look up how to flash the emmc on here.

KFHD 7" 2012 (TATE) Hard Brick recovery process....
LinearEquation said:
OMAP 4400 is a hard brick. You flashed KFU and now the bootloader is screwed. You will need to look up how to flash the emmc on here.
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I know this thread is a little old but, if anyone is looking for how to get there hard bricked kindle fire HD 7" Tate recovered do a search for: TOPIC # t2828906 by overlode
On page 4 of the thread I have posted a procedure.
Bogie