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Memory full - Help!

This morning i got a notification that my phone storage space is getting low. I have 12.8 MB free according to the system stats. It seems, though, that my phone thinks I have 0 MB free, as I tried to download something and it said I had no room (the file was a few dozen KB).
I then received a notice that a text had been rejected because my text message memory was full. I went in and did some house cleaning: deleted about 15 threads, some with 150-200 msgs in it. I then tried sending myself a test text, and it still said that my text message memory was full.
Anyone have any idea what's going on, and how to fix it? I'm having terrible flashbacks to my BB Curve when it didn't have a SD card in it.

xSiraris said:
This morning i got a notification that my phone storage space is getting low. I have 12.8 MB free according to the system stats. It seems, though, that my phone thinks I have 0 MB free, as I tried to download something and it said I had no room (the file was a few dozen KB).
I then received a notice that a text had been rejected because my text message memory was full. I went in and did some house cleaning: deleted about 15 threads, some with 150-200 msgs in it. I then tried sending myself a test text, and it still said that my text message memory was full.
Anyone have any idea what's going on, and how to fix it? I'm having terrible flashbacks to my BB Curve when it didn't have a SD card in it.
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This is Android's "dirty little secret". All of your apps are stored on your phone's internal storage. If you're on a N1 then you're running 2.2, right?
Go to settings>applications>manage applications> all, click on each app and see if you can move to SD. While you're in there, clear the less important app's cache. Google Earth is a HOG.
You can also root and flash CyanogenMod. Then You'll be able to put all apps on your SD.

glwinkler said:
This is Android's "dirty little secret". All of your apps are stored on your phone's internal storage. If you're on a N1 then you're running 2.2, right?
Go to settings>applications>manage applications> all, click on each app and see if you can move to SD. While you're in there, clear the less important app's cache. Google Earth is a HOG.
You can also root and flash CyanogenMod. Then You'll be able to put all apps on your SD.
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I am on 2.2, but most of the apps I have can't be moved to SD because the developer hasn't enabled it.
How much internal storage does the N1 have? I don't have that many large apps on here. Maybe I should uninstall Google Earth, which is a huge hog, you're right.

Empty your browser cache; this is usually enough.

If you're willing to root, there are a few ways to fix this using your SD card.

If it's affecting SMS as well your cache is full.
Not ideal for this to full up before /data - you may need an app like CacheMate to manage it for you.

I had this happen once and it was my SD card that was actually full, not anything on the phone.

i once tried putting apps on sd, their widgets became useless for some reason

sheek360 said:
i once tried putting apps on sd, their widgets became useless for some reason
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Don't put widgets on sd then. That is what Google specifically says not to do. Simple enough. Don't put anything on sd that has to continuously run, services, live wallpapers, widgets.

having the same problem, all my caches are empty though. it said it had to reject a text due to lack of memory. now that i have freed up some (at 32mb free atm) it still doesn't receive the text.
this is a major downside on android's part.

glwinkler said:
This is Android's "dirty little secret". All of your apps are stored on your phone's internal storage. If you're on a N1 then you're running 2.2, right?
Go to settings>applications>manage applications> all, click on each app and see if you can move to SD. While you're in there, clear the less important app's cache. Google Earth is a HOG.
You can also root and flash CyanogenMod. Then You'll be able to put all apps on your SD.
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I have all my apps on sd card that can be loaded there. I am having the same problem with low memory and messages not allowed. I had to uninstall a couple of apps that load only on internal memory and I hate that. Is there any way to check internal memory and clear that up? I have cleared as much cache as possible through manage applications in settings. Is there any other way to free up internal memory? Using CM6.0.3 rooted

umplarry said:
I have all my apps on sd card that can be loaded there. I am having the same problem with low memory and messages not allowed. I had to uninstall a couple of apps that load only on internal memory and I hate that. Is there any way to check internal memory and clear that up? I have cleared as much cache as possible through manage applications in settings. Is there any other way to free up internal memory? Using CM6.0.3 rooted
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I have something over 100 apps on my phone, not Gapps, just downloaded stuff. If I'm reading it right titanium backup backs up over 200. I have a 16 GB sd card and I'm using CM6 which allows me to put whatever apps on my SD I want. Other ROMs let you do this as well, or you can root and move all your apps to SD. I just personally like CM6. Be careful though, I've noticed that some apps that get moved don't work or strangely disappear. especially if they have a widget. There is a link to the one click app in my signature below. It's called universal androot.
Good luck.

I am rooted as well and using CM6, most of my apps are loaded on my16 gig card, however some of them won't let me load to my card (slingbox, etc). I was just wondering if there is a way to access my internal memory to see if there were some things I could delete that I didn't need anymore. Any help would be appreciated

xSiraris said:
This morning i got a notification that my phone storage space is getting low. I have 12.8 MB free according to the system stats. It seems, though, that my phone thinks I have 0 MB free, as I tried to download something and it said I had no room (the file was a few dozen KB).
I then received a notice that a text had been rejected because my text message memory was full. I went in and did some house cleaning: deleted about 15 threads, some with 150-200 msgs in it. I then tried sending myself a test text, and it still said that my text message memory was full.
Anyone have any idea what's going on, and how to fix it? I'm having terrible flashbacks to my BB Curve when it didn't have a SD card in it.
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My advise: Just root using Androidroot (1click-root) and after that search in Xda for setinstalllocation, download and install it and move all your apps to the sd-card (don't move widgets, autostart apps, root apps? or services). Did that last week and get back almost 40 mb in internal storage.
While you are doing it suggest you install from the market cachmate for root - it will be your day-a-day friend.
Best of all if i'm correct, you will Keep your warranty ok since you don't unlock your bootloader
SOUSAFRUI @ NEXUS ONE

sousafrui said:
My advise: Just root using Androidroot (1click-root) and after that search in Xda for setinstalllocation, download and install it and move all your apps to the sd-card (don't move widgets, autostart apps, root apps? or services). Did that last week and get back almost 40 mb in internal storage.
While you are doing it suggest you install from the market cachmate for root - it will be your day-a-day friend.
Best of all if i'm correct, you will Keep your warranty ok since you don't unlock your bootloader
SOUSAFRUI @ NEXUS ONE
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Co-sign...this is exactly what I have done. ~90+ apps on my N1 with no slowdown or memory msgs
Sent from my Nexus One

gibosn6594 said:
If you're willing to root, there are a few ways to fix this using your SD card.
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How? I have been searching for solution after installing cutom Rom and now I have 3.6mb memory on my sensation after clearing all cache, data in apps. Please helpif you can as I cannot find specific answer and I cannot post to development pages I got the Rom.

Noob here. Noob on XDA anyway. I've owned by Nexus One for over two years now and I've been pretty happy with it. However, I am finally running out of internal memory, even after moving all the apps I could to flash.
Actually, it's mostly TMobile's crappy voicemail app's fault that I am here. If there is less than 10% of space on the device, it flips out and won't download voicemails any longer, which is horrible.
So, here I am today, I just rooted my phone and using posts like this one, I am figuring out how I can force some of those greedy apps onto my sdcard to free up some space. I will probably go with a custom rom here too soon, since there will no longer be updates for the Nexus One.
I know there are much much better phones out now, but this thing works and has been very good.

ycayir said:
How? I have been searching for solution after installing cutom Rom and now I have 3.6mb memory on my sensation after clearing all cache, data in apps. Please helpif you can as I cannot find specific answer and I cannot post to development pages I got the Rom.
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I'm not sure how this works on the sensation, but try this.
Since you already have a custom ROM, I'm assuming your phone has been rooted. In that case, install darktremor's a2sd script. You'll have to create and ext3 or ext4 partition on your sd card, and then the script will automatically move some apps to the ext partition freeing up space on your phones data partition.
jmomo said:
Noob here. Noob on XDA anyway. I've owned by Nexus One for over two years now and I've been pretty happy with it. However, I am finally running out of internal memory, even after moving all the apps I could to flash.
Actually, it's mostly TMobile's crappy voicemail app's fault that I am here. If there is less than 10% of space on the device, it flips out and won't download voicemails any longer, which is horrible.
So, here I am today, I just rooted my phone and using posts like this one, I am figuring out how I can force some of those greedy apps onto my sdcard to free up some space. I will probably go with a custom rom here too soon, since there will no longer be updates for the Nexus One.
I know there are much much better phones out now, but this thing works and has been very good.
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The same goes for you.
I can't post the link for the script, but just search the forums or google for dta2sd and you'll find it.
To create an ext partition, I would recommend using 4ext recovery.
Hope this helps.

clear the applications data

xSiraris said:
This morning i got a notification that my phone storage space is getting low. I have 12.8 MB free according to the system stats. It seems, though, that my phone thinks I have 0 MB free, as I tried to download something and it said I had no room (the file was a few dozen KB).
I then received a notice that a text had been rejected because my text message memory was full. I went in and did some house cleaning: deleted about 15 threads, some with 150-200 msgs in it. I then tried sending myself a test text, and it still said that my text message memory was full.
Anyone have any idea what's going on, and how to fix it? I'm having terrible flashbacks to my BB Curve when it didn't have a SD card in it.
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1st ... what rom are you using ?
2nd ... try this flash as zip in recovery http://www.2shared.com/file/OFasim5b/ad2sdx-10-RC01.html ......

[Q] How Much Internal Storage Is Allotted For Apps

How much internal storage is reserved for apps on Color Nook (Of the 5 GB internal memory)? Reason I ask is it show that I have 3.95 GB of the 5 GB still available, but when I try to sideload apps it tells me device is full. Thanks.

cubstuff said:
How much internal storage is reserved for apps on Color Nook (Of the 5 GB internal memory)? Reason I ask is it show that I have 3.95 GB of the 5 GB still available, but when I try to sideload apps it tells me device is full. Thanks.
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I'm pretty sure this has been covered elsewhere, and I'm pretty sure that it's 1GB, but maybe someone with more dev experience will correct me.
That said, i'm 99% sure it's 1 GB. I don't think anyone's had to work around that yet

Thanks for the reponse. I performed a search but did not find any information. 1 GB might be correct, as that is about where I am at.

I think it's a little under 1gb. More like around 800mb which is still plenty. I've installed a bunch of apps and still have over 700mb free. No need for apps2sd You can check free space by installing nook color tools and going to SD Card & phone storage settins or by installing Mini Info from the market.

Disable Phone memory?

Not new to android, but just picked up the Thrill today.
I have a 32gb sd card that I had from my evo 3d, but this phone has app storage, phone memory, then the SD card. I use a few apps that you cannot choose storage or cache locations. The most important being MOG, I download a ton of music from this service, it automatically caches to the smaller phone storage location, I want to direct the app to store cached music to my sd card. Is there a way to just disable the phone memory? I would like to avoid root, but I'm not afraid to if I have to.

CEaton said:
Not new to android, but just picked up the Thrill today.
I have a 32gb sd card that I had from my evo 3d, but this phone has app storage, phone memory, then the SD card. I use a few apps that you cannot choose storage or cache locations. The most important being MOG, I download a ton of music from this service, it automatically caches to the smaller phone storage location, I want to direct the app to store cached music to my sd card. Is there a way to just disable the phone memory? I would like to avoid root, but I'm not afraid to if I have to.
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Not sure if this will help you or if its long overdue but here is the link to the thread on how to root your Thrill. Its easy peazy. If you have not rooted it yet that is a great start for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1251663

Like I said I'm not afraid to root but I want to keep my warranty going for a couple weeks as I got the phone yesterday. But would rooting it help my problem since there isn't any real custom roms yet? Not even sure a custom rom could address my problem. I don't remember cyanogen on my old evo 4g had any default storage type options.
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I'd like to know how to do this too, after the root.

Internal vs SD menory?

Is there anyway to FORCE the apps to use the MicroSD memory instead of the Internal storage?
It seems every app I've installed ( Dropbox, Google Docs, Evernote, etc) uses the internal memory. I have a 32GB MicroSD that seems to be useless right now. I tried moving all the apps to SD, but they still use the Internal Memory to store cache/files

I have yet to see a fix for this as well. The way I work around this is if the app saves files to the internal storage there is usually a setting in the settings menu that will allow you to change where it saves files. For instance with the TapeRecorder app. It automatically saves files to the sdcard (which Motorola stupidly named the internal storage for). I go to the settings and change the "sdcard" to "sdcard-ext", then it works!

For the time being, you can use the SD-EXT microsd card for music, videos, pictures, TiBU backups, downloads, etc., but in some cases you need to change some settings to do so. Apps cannot be installed on the external microsd card for now and you should make sure you 'move to phone' any apps which are check marked in the 'media' area or you are subject to losing them.

Sorry this next generation android phone just like Droid X it has dedicated app memory. That memory is used strictly for those apps. U can put 500 apps and not run out of room. SD card is used for media music movies etc
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Groid said:
For the time being, you can use the SD-EXT microsd card for music, videos, pictures, TiBU backups, downloads, etc., but in some cases you need to change some settings to do so. Apps cannot be installed on the external microsd card for now and you should make sure you 'move to phone' any apps which are check marked in the 'media' area or you are subject to losing them.
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Is this why When I selected "Move to Media Area" the application shortcut disappears from the "All Apps" menu?
I moved 2 games to the "Media Area" and now they are gone... they are still installed, but I have no way of accessing them. (I know they are still installed because when I went to reinstall, it said something about it replacing an app thats already install)

After researching more, and fumbling through the phone I discovered that Motorola has deemed the 8GB of Internal memory as an SDCard.
Another FAIL for Motorola, and I doubt there will ever be a fix for this. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
Stated on the Motorola Forums:
Folks, it's the storage naming system in Android. If you go to any forum for any phone with internal and external memory you'll see the same complaints. There are multiple threads about it here.
Even though in Motorola's file manager you see "internal phone memory" and "SD Card", the internal memory is actually "sdcard" and the external is "sdcard-ext". Like I said, it's like this on every brand of phone with this set up.
So, what's happening is the apps are saving to the internal memory because it is, in fact, the SD card. Motorola has tried to remedy this confusion by discontinuing to say "move to SD" and instead now calls it "Move to Media area".
And no, your external SD is not useless. You can still set your photos from the camera to save directly to your external, you can still put music and movies and all kinds of media on your external and your phone will see them just fine. This is why there is a 16GB card included with your phone, so you can use it for media and if you want to move your apps off of the system memory to save space you move it to the 8GB internal area. Of course 8GB is still plenty of space for apps and other media as well
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EDIT: BFirebird101 stated this to, I don't know why, but when I was scrolling it passed over his post. Didn't mean to restate what he said.

I've been *****ing about this problem for weeks and nobody seems to care, and it also seems to not bother anybody either.
Its a crock of sh1t. Yea you can save media files on the real SD card, but how many apps actually find them? Smooth move Motofùckingrola!
Fortunately with some coaxing and about a month of messing around, DoubleTwist can find media files on sdcard-ext. Its about the only worthy music player that can.
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Tornlogic said:
I've been *****ing about this problem for weeks and nobody seems to care, and it also seems to not bother anybody either.
Its a crock of sh1t. Yea you can save media files on the real SD card, but how many apps actually find them? Smooth move Motofùckingrola!
Fortunately with some coaxing and about a month of messing around, DoubleTwist can find media files on sdcard-ext. Its about the only worthy music player that can.
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The Stock Music App seems to find the music files just fine on the MicroSD (just add some to try) and the Gallery Finds the Pictures. But I don't give a damn about Music or Pictures.
I have 123MB of the "Internal Memory" (SDCard) left - after I loaded all my work documents (spreadsheets, powerpoints, etc) & E-books. Right now I have to Move the file from the SDcard (InternalMemory) to the SDCard-Ext(MicroSD) after I've edit it and reuploaded it to Google Docs, then if I want to Edit it agian, I have to move it back to the SDCard(Internal Memory) Just so Google Docs will see it again.

Stock? That's okay, I'll pass. I froze those apps with TiBackup.
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i use videovault and when i pulled my video vault folder from my old backup and loaded it to the external SD, the VideoVault did not find them. There is no way i will load 4GB of videos into my Internal 8GB card just so i can haz my pronz!

What I noticed is this seems to be very similar to how the Xoom and Honeycomb handles sdcards and internal storage (minus the fact that we still cant write to sdcards on stock honeycomb....) so it could be Motorola setup the phone this way for a smoother migration to Ice Cream Sandwich when it comes out?

If ICS looks anything like the "leaked" video then ill pass.
It seems that MOTOROLA Android devices are the only ones with the MicroSD issues.
I have an Asus Transformer android tablet that has absolutely NO trouble at all when it come to read/write access of the MicroSD.
Motorola seems to fudge everything up. But verizon doesnt off any better phones (IMO)

You would think with all the Smart/Nerdy People on this site, someone would come up with a way to Rename the partitions Motorola has setup.
If it was just possible to rename the "SDCard-Ext" To "SDCard" ...

The reason you have no issue is Asus did a hack mod to get the SD card to work. Moto did the same on European xooms but on USA version its a google product there fore moto has no control on software manipulation. As for apps to SD card there is no need the device has dedicated app storage stritctly for apps.
KoolAidJunkie said:
If ICS looks anything like the "leaked" video then ill pass.
It seems that MOTOROLA Android devices are the only ones with the MicroSD issues.
I have an Asus Transformer android tablet that has absolutely NO trouble at all when it come to read/write access of the MicroSD.
Motorola seems to fudge everything up. But verizon doesnt off any better phones (IMO)
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Does this phone ever show "Insufficient Storage" when updating apps?

My wife has a Droid Incredible 4G LTE that is basically out of space because of the way it is partitioned by HTC. Rather than having 1 big partition, it has one partition labeled internal storage, one labeled phone storage and then the external SD Card. Unfortunately, apps can only be moved from from the tiny 1GB internal storage over to the still small (not sure of size) Phone Storage. Even though every app that can be moved over to Phone Storage is moved, big apps like Facebook always fail to update and say Insufficient Storage available. Although when I look in Settings, it does show over 100MB free for the Internal Storage. On my Galaxy Nexus, when I go to Settings->Storage, it just shows my 1 big 32GB partition and everything seems to use it and I have many more apps installed than my wife and never once had an app fail to update because of insufficient storage. Has HTC gotten away from the strange partitioning setup that the Incredible 4G LTE uses with the One and gone to one big unified partition?

The partitioning is part of ICS I believe. But as of now, I've got tons of big apps and I've never run into that issue. Apps according to the Storage settings is taking up 7.53GB, but that includes the big ass game files of 3 racing games, Batman and a few others that actually reside on the SD.

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The partitioning is part of ICS I believe. But as of now, I've got tons of big apps and I've never run into that issue. Apps according to the Storage settings is taking up 7.53GB, but that includes the big ass game files of 3 racing games, Batman and a few others that actually reside on the SD.
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Thanks for the info. Would it be possible for you to post a screenshot of the Storage section of Settings? I want to see how it compares to the Incredible 4G.

Here you go
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jimmyn89 said:
My wife has a Droid Incredible 4G LTE that is basically out of space because of the way it is partitioned by HTC. Rather than having 1 big partition, it has one partition labeled internal storage, one labeled phone storage and then the external SD Card. Unfortunately, apps can only be moved from from the tiny 1GB internal storage over to the still small (not sure of size) Phone Storage. Even though every app that can be moved over to Phone Storage is moved, big apps like Facebook always fail to update and say Insufficient Storage available. Although when I look in Settings, it does show over 100MB free for the Internal Storage. On my Galaxy Nexus, when I go to Settings->Storage, it just shows my 1 big 32GB partition and everything seems to use it and I have many more apps installed than my wife and never once had an app fail to update because of insufficient storage. Has HTC gotten away from the strange partitioning setup that the Incredible 4G LTE uses with the One and gone to one big unified partition?
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The programs also has to download, and then installed - so it takes more storage than one would think. I ran into this on my old Amaze that had been upgraded to ICS. The only solution is to remove files from internal storage. I'm assuming you have run the utilities to clean out the storage?

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Thanks. That looks more like my Galaxy Nexus. The Incredible 4G shows how much space is available on the different partitions. It seems like the One allows all of your storage to be used for whatever you want.

stevedebi said:
The programs also has to download, and then installed - so it takes more storage than one would think. I ran into this on my old Amaze that had been upgraded to ICS. The only solution is to remove files from internal storage. I'm assuming you have run the utilities to clean out the storage?
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Yes I have run the "make more space" utility. It usually will let me do that round of updates. But a couple days later its telling her insufficient storage again. Its quite annoying. Just glad to see the One doesn't have that issue. Once Verizon gets it I may upgrade to it.