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Mask hotspot usage? Work around?

Hello XDA members this is my first post on the XDA forums. I am about to upgrade to a droid bionic from my droid x. I am able to use the verizon hotspot app threw teamblackhats hotspot hack without verizon knowing I am using my phone as a hotspot. I have searched around all the android/bionic forums for the past week and have been searching for a way to use a hotspot app that has infrastructure mode working on the bionic and the only one I have found is the built in verizon hotspot. However verizon can still detect that you are using hotspot even if you do the SQllite entitlement hack. So does anyone know of an app/hotspot trick that lets you use your phone as a hotspot with infrastructure mode without the verizon hotspot or verizon knowing? If you give me "Foxfi" or "Wifi Tether For Root Users" as an answer can you please tell me if those apps can use infrastructure mode and bypass the Network Access identifier switch that verizon has built into their LTE phones??
I have emailed both Foxfi developers and Wifi tether for root users developers however I have still not received a response and it has been 2 weeks since I have asked them.
Here is a thread that can give you an idea of what I am talking about http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1260968 post #12 on page 2.
By the way I already know there are apps out there that can use wifi threw bluetooth and adhoc mode, but I need infrastructure mode and that's why I have included the information that I did in this post.

rootforce said:
If you give me "Foxfi" or "Wifi Tether For Root Users" as an answer can you please tell me if those apps can use infrastructure mode and bypass the Network Access identifier switch that verizon has built into their LTE phones??
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Quick question. How much data are you using that you're paranoid about Verizon finding out about the NAI switcher?
Because if you're not going to be doing it too heavily, I've used Wireless Tether For Root Users (http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether) for 3 years across a Droid, Droid Bionic, and SGS3 without any issues whatsoever from Verizon. It uses a legit infrastructure mode.
However, there's no such thing as a safe tether workaround if Verizon ever decides to do deep packet detection on you. They'll be able to see desktop browser user-agent strings and that will blow your whole cover immediately.

projektorboy said:
Quick question. How much data are you using that you're paranoid about Verizon finding out about the NAI switcher?
Because if you're not going to be doing it too heavily, I've used Wireless Tether For Root Users for 3 years across a Droid, Droid Bionic, and SGS3 without any issues whatsoever from Verizon. It uses a legit infrastructure mode.
However, there's no such thing as a safe tether workaround if Verizon ever decides to do deep packet detection on you. They'll be able to see desktop browser user-agent strings and that will blow your whole cover immediately.
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I'll say i will be using 7-10 gigs of data per month. I have unlimited data grandfathered in and I have been out of contract with verizon for the past 2 months. I appreciate the info about wifi tether for root users. Please tell me projektor which setup method is infrastructure mode in wifi tether? its hostapd(master) right?
Bummer i was hoping there was a way to make it undetectable.

projektorboy said:
Quick question. How much data are you using that you're paranoid about Verizon finding out about the NAI switcher?
Because if you're not going to be doing it too heavily, I've used Wireless Tether For Root Users (http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether) for 3 years across a Droid, Droid Bionic, and SGS3 without any issues whatsoever from Verizon. It uses a legit infrastructure mode.
However, there's no such thing as a safe tether workaround if Verizon ever decides to do deep packet detection on you. They'll be able to see desktop browser user-agent strings and that will blow your whole cover immediately.
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Hmmm. What if, though, the tethering is to an Android tablet?
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Infinity TF700 running Android JB (rooted) via Tapatalk HD

johnlgalt said:
Hmmm. What if, though, the tethering is to an Android tablet?
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Infinity TF700 running Android JB (rooted) via Tapatalk HD
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I heard bluetooth tethering works with pdanet. Try usb tethering on pdanet as well? theres a lot of variables. Sorry i dont have ur tablet to test it out

oops. I was unclear. I meant would they be able to read browser headers and notice a difference if I had my Android tablet tethered to my Android phone? (I've always assumed yes, but it made me wonder - if the browser headers were identical, would then notice the difference without actually delving deeper)?
I know I can tether my Infinity to my BIONIC, because I do it on a (nearly) daily basis. So, I was just asking the question more as an academic question than anything else.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Infinity TF700 running Android JB (rooted) via Tapatalk HD

from my understanding yes they can tell. i believe the mac address used on the tethered device is somehow revealed to vzw.
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[Q] Portable Hotspot free (AT&T)?

Hi guys,
So today i was playing with the settings menu and decied to try out the mobile network sharing. I know that you have to have specific data plan to get tethering (which I dint have) but I decided to give it a shot anyways. To my surprise, the hotspot worked flawlessly and I was able to connect to my tablet using my One's mobile data. I tried to setup tethering on my sister's iphone 5 who has the same plan but got prompted to call At&t to add qualifying plan. Do any of you guys with AT&T get free hotspot as well or am I wrong in thinking that its gonna be free? I would hate to get billed for using it without a qualifying data plan.
Btw, my one is rooted, S-off, and running ARHD 11.5.

I can't say for sure because I didn't try this feature before I put ARHD 11.5 on my new HTC One (just yesterday in fact), but I think you are able to do that for free because you have ARHD installed. One of the advantages, AFAIK, to putting a custom ROM on your phone is to enable tethering without having to go through your carrier. This was one of the reasons I put a custom ROM on my HTC EVO when I was with Sprint at least. I didn't think it was right for the carrier to dictate how I could use my phone when tethering is a feature inherent to most smartphones, but just walled off by carriers as an additional way to nickel and dime users.

karboy12 said:
Hi guys,
So today i was playing with the settings menu and decied to try out the mobile network sharing. I know that you have to have specific data plan to get tethering (which I dint have) but I decided to give it a shot anyways. To my surprise, the hotspot worked flawlessly and I was able to connect to my tablet using my One's mobile data. I tried to setup tethering on my sister's iphone 5 who has the same plan but got prompted to call At&t to add qualifying plan. Do any of you guys with AT&T get free hotspot as well or am I wrong in thinking that its gonna be free? I would hate to get billed for using it without a qualifying data plan.
Btw, my one is rooted, S-off, and running ARHD 11.5.
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Yeah since you got rid of the AT&T software, they have no way on the phone's end to know if you're using the hotspot. Unfortunately the iPhone is a little more restrictive and I don't know of any way to get around it, although there may be. I would be careful though, if they detect that you're using data too quickly they can add the hotspot feature to your plan. It's happened to me before.

[Q] Does ATT look for tether the same as TMobile?

I will be moving to ATT by the end of the month, currently using the untether mod through exposed, working great. I was wondering if this method will work after I switch to ATT..searched around, but didnt see this anywhere recently discussed
KCJunkman

KCJunkman said:
I will be moving to ATT by the end of the month, currently using the untether mod through exposed, working great. I was wondering if this method will work after I switch to ATT..searched around, but didnt see this anywhere recently discussed
KCJunkman
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I have XT1053 DE with unlocked bootloader and rooted on AT&T GoPhone. I can confirm that built-in USB and WiFi tethering work fine but I only used them for a short while just to see that it works. I don't know if AT&T detects it and if it does - what it will do. I also don't know if postpaid AT&T any different.

KCJunkman said:
I will be moving to ATT by the end of the month, currently using the untether mod through exposed, working great. I was wondering if this method will work after I switch to ATT..searched around, but didnt see this anywhere recently discussed
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I read on another site that there is some sort of tether cloaker for ATT if you are rooted but I can't remember where I read it.

To tether on TMobile you need to be rooted? I'm switching over and would like to know before I do.

Well, I am on the unlimited plan, which started to come with a 2.5 gig hotspot. When I wasn't rooted, obviously my data rose on the hotspot when is tethered my iPad, but after rooting and using exposed etc. my hotspot data has stayed at .1 meg for that last 2 weeks
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I got a slap on the wrist from AT&T after I used tethering for about a week. I called them for something and they essentially said "if you keep doing that, we'll start charging you for a tethering plan."

AT&T Mobile Share plans have a bucket of data, and it can be used on the device or tethering ... doesn't matter how you use it.

morehush said:
I got a slap on the wrist from AT&T after I used tethering for about a week. I called them for something and they essentially said "if you keep doing that, we'll start charging you for a tethering plan."
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do you have a grandfathered unlimited data plan.

Nope, at the time I had a 2gb data plan.

[Q] WiFi Hotspot/Tether

I know nothing it definite when it comes to the MotoX+1 as we know little to nothing about it, but it's likely safe to assume it will be as secure if not more than the MotoX.
I NEED to have Wifi Tether on my phone, it is an absolute must. I currently have an unlimited data plan with Verizon and I use tethering on my Galaxy S3 nearly all the time. Is wifi tethering possible on the Verizon Moto X? Is root required?

GatorsUF said:
I know nothing it definite when it comes to the MotoX+1 as we know little to nothing about it, but it's likely safe to assume it will be as secure if not more than the MotoX.
I NEED to have Wifi Tether on my phone, it is an absolute must. I currently have an unlimited data plan with Verizon and I use tethering on my Galaxy S3 nearly all the time. Is wifi tethering possible on the Verizon Moto X? Is root required?
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Buy the developer edition. It is the only guaranteed way that you will be able to root, and [probably] use WiFi tether...

Yes I'm considering that option, wonder what Dev edition x+1 will cost

[Q] Moto X VZW Unrooted Tether

Is there a way to tether an unrooted vzw moto x? I searched and just ended up getting more confused and I've heard yes and no. So I figured I'd just ask. Sorry if it's been asked time and time again.
Thanks!

If you are on 4.4.2, yes. You can use towelpieroot and a script to enable native tethering. Both can be found in the forum. If you are on 4.4.4 and have unlimited data, not without shelling out more money to Big Red. If you have limited data, you should be able to tether with no problems

marzak said:
If you are on 4.4.2, yes. You can use towelpieroot and a script to enable native tethering. Both can be found in the forum. If you are on 4.4.4 and have unlimited data, not without shelling out more money to Big Red. If you have limited data, you should be able to tether with no problems
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I asked big red, they said I cant even add tethering without losing unlimited data. I'm unrooted on 4.4.4
I've heard that there are methods with USB or bluetooth unrooted on 4.4.4 though, but I'm unsure. Was hoping there would be, apparently not though.

blueice5249 said:
I asked big red, they said I cant even add tethering without losing unlimited data. I'm unrooted on 4.4.4
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Yes you can. Just log onto verizon online and add it by clicking on manage products and apps. The Verizon reps are clueless half of the time.
You can even turn it on and off as much as you like during the month. It is $1/day for each day it is on, and if it is on for any part of the day you get charged the full $1.
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I've heard that there are methods with USB or bluetooth unrooted on 4.4.4 though, but I'm unsure. Was hoping there would be, apparently not though.
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PDAnet works with USB tether and bluetooth tether, just not WiFi tether.
You can get a new Verizon Moto X Dev Ed for cheap on ebay if you want to root and WiFi tether for free.

JulesJam said:
Yes you can. Just log onto verizon online and add it by clicking on manage products and apps. The Verizon reps are clueless half of the time.
You can even turn it on and off as much as you like during the month. It is $1/day for each day it is on, and if it is on for any part of the day you get charged the full $1.
PDAnet works with USB tether and bluetooth tether, just not WiFi tether.
You can get a new Verizon Moto X Dev Ed for cheap on ebay if you want to root and WiFi tether for free.
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Thanks, I got PDAnet working! I'm gonna stick with this phone for now. I run 2 businesses off this phone now, so rooting it and possibly being without it for awhile isn't worth the risk for me.
Stupid real life always getting in the way.