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Hi there, first timer here. I'm hoping that XDA will be able to help with this question since I've noticed that there're are a few members who have the Xperia S (XS)and plan on switching to Xperia Z (XZ). Anyway, here goes:
Basically, I'm thinking of switching from XS to XZ.
However I've seen many complaints about how the loudspeakers and camera are subpar, or not as good as expected.
To be honest I don't care if the phone isn't that great. I'd be more than happy if it's better than my XS.
That being said, to the XS and XZ users on XDA, what do you say? I'd really appreciate some feedback on the following two points before I decide to buy.
1) Is the XZ camera better than the XS camera?
Edit: Well, actually, is it alright to say that it is a significant improvement?
2) Are the XZ loudspeakers better than those on the XS?
Or do they sound better (yes, I know this is really subjective...)?
I switched from S to Z.
So far so good
I switched from T to Z...
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Yes it is! I had S for 8 months and Z rocks! :victory:
aprilius20 said:
1) Is the XZ camera better than the XS camera?
Edit: Well, actually, is it alright to say that it is a significant improvement?
2) Are the XZ loudspeakers better than those on the XS?
Or do they sound better (yes, I know this is really subjective...)?
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I'm coming from XS too.
S was (is) a great phone.
Z is superior to S.
1) Camera in certains conditions can easy outperform S.
2) Speaker sounds good when mobile left on the table etc in landscape mode watching videos etc. Its a bit better when it comes to sound quality, but can't see really difference in volume levels. With headphones it outperforms S aswell.
Screen, battery life. Everything is better. Plus, forget about lag. Nova launcher does the job more than perfect.
Thanks for the feedback, everyone.
I've made the switch from S to Z. Feels good so far
iam about 2 buy a smart phone and cant choose between s4 and xperia z so i wanna ask few questions here
1-Octa core and quad core.....Much difference?
2-the camera compression which makes pics worse than s4....can it be solved by update?
3-what about sound quality is it that bad as they say in reviews?
thanks in advance
1) no
2) not sure
3) it's alright. Compared to my previous phones like tx, t, zl it's a bit off.
Ill be honest with you, z may not have the best specs Or screen Or whatever. But once you hold it in your hands you don't want to let it go.
S4 has features, but it's a phone that I cant bring out to show off.
The z, it's a beauty with water proof, a phone that I'm proud of to bring out with confidence. I don't even know how to explain the beauty and sexiness of the phone. It's like better than looking at girls ( okay I'm going to far) but you understand what I mean lol.
abokorayem said:
iam about 2 buy a smart phone and cant choose between s4 and xperia z so i wanna ask few quee and quad core.....Much difference?
2-the camera compression which makes pics worse than s4....can it be solved by update?
3-what about sound quality is it that bad as they say in reviews?
thanks in advance
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It's actually just 2x quad so in terms of speed, there's no difference
2. Sony is working on an update for the camera and power management, can't say results yet but it will improve.
3 I have no problem with the speaker, compared to s2 I find the quality better here.
But the speaker will get low for about 30 minutes if you drop the phone in water.
The S4 will melt if you drop it in water.
If you're really unsure just test both devices. I went with the Z for waterproof, I myself was faced with this decision. (but with HTC1)
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2. Sony is working on an update for the camera and power management, can't say results yet but it will improve.
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Oh really? Did your magical crystal ball told you or from where you know? I haven't found any statement from Sony regarding a fix yet
Higgins12 said:
Oh really? Did your magical crystal ball told you or from where you know? I haven't found any statement from Sony regarding a fix yet
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Maybe you have to check sony's forum not xda ,cause they say the camera will be fixed.
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gm007 said:
Maybe you have to check sony's forum not xda ,cause they say the camera will be fixed.
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Those guys over on the Sony forum aren't all that reliable though to be fair
cvi emEasted
I am about to buy a smartphone like you do.
1- for the hardware there is really not much of a difference between the two in raw power..
2- camera is not so bad, i think it's on par with the S4 without the iAuto mod.. but software will be improved, and you always can use mods..
3- sound quality, have no idea, i still need to buy the phone.. but i guess it will be ok.. but i don't use speaker to listen to song.. so i don't care even if it was low..
I will go with the xperia z, its just beautiful, hardware? almost the same.
i was considering the nexus 4, because of the fast updates ecc ecc..
but the Z is just amazing... so i will buy it next week.
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Those guys over on the Sony forum aren't all that reliable though to be fair
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But we have to believe someone don't you think so?or we all talking bul***t
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Higgins12 said:
Oh really? Did your magical crystal ball told you or from where you know? I haven't found any statement from Sony regarding a fix yet
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Don't be so rude, why would you try to make me into a fool when you have no clue... Christ
abokorayem said:
iam about 2 buy a smart phone and cant choose between s4 and xperia z so i wanna ask few questions here
1-Octa core and quad core.....Much difference?
2-the camera compression which makes pics worse than s4....can it be solved by update?
3-what about sound quality is it that bad as they say in reviews?
thanks in advance
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If I may believe the technical people the 8 core processor should be able to extend your battery life which sounds logical to me. Speed wise though it shouldn't make too much of a difference since only max 4 cores are being used at the time in the S4 and not 8. Despite that I bet the S4 will have a better benchmark score than the Z, the real question though is if it would be a noticeable difference in real time daily use.
If the camera issue can be fixed? I don't see a reason why not since it isn't a hardware issue. Yet again, the question will be if Sony will fix it.
Sound quality from the speakers definitely isn't gonna wow you, I can guarantee. However it's not really that bad.. I agree that it has horrible placement and isn't really loud but I personally never use the speakers. I have my headphones and will soon purchase the NFC speakers so to me it isn't a big issue.
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A rly Great thanks to all of u guys that rly made me cool down............at first i saw gsmarena.com and phonearena.com i thought xperia z was horrible.......but now i think iam gonna to pick it up......THANKS AGAIN
RoChinu said:
If I may believe the technical people the 8 core processor should be able to extend your battery life which sounds logical to me. Speed wise though it shouldn't make too much of a difference since only max 4 cores are being used at the time in the S4 and not 8. Despite that I bet the S4 will have a better benchmark score than the Z, the real question though is if it would be a noticeable difference in real time daily use.
If the camera issue can be fixed? I don't see a reason why not since it isn't a hardware issue. Yet again, the question will be if Sony will fix it.
Sound quality from the speakers definitely isn't gonna wow you, I can guarantee. However it's not really that bad.. I agree that it has horrible placement and isn't really loud but I personally never use the speakers. I have my headphones and will soon purchase the NFC speakers so to me it isn't a big issue.
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And the first batches with galaxy s4 will come with snapdragon and not exynos. New octa exynos chips arent even being massproduced just yet and might take awhile. (P.S. This info might being outdated, this is what I last heard.)
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Hi everyone,hi to all my friends.
I want to ask very important question.Z1's camera is very bad I think. I am waiting for a better camera. My old phone Xperia Arc is better than Z1.Is this a software problem? Is there anyone who thinking like me? Or Are there some special settings for camera?
Mazellat said:
Hi everyone,hi to all my friends.
I want to ask very important question.Z1's camera is very bad I think. I am waiting for a better camera. My old phone Xperia Arc is better than Z1.Is this a software problem? Is there anyone who thinking like me? Or Are there some special settings for camera?
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yeah number of people are complaining for camera... actually hardware specs are good enough for a mobile but sony's software is a complete mess... all you can do is wait and try to upgrade it to latest version...
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yeah number of people are complaining for camera... actually hardware specs are good enough for a mobile but sony's software is a complete mess... all you can do is wait and try to upgrade it to latest version...
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What is the best stock firmware for camera? Are all firmwares same?
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Mazellat said:
What is the best stock firmware for camera? Are all firmwares same?
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you should use the latest one..of course latest will be a bit better.firmware is available here just check forum.....or use pc companion
Hello,
I am also very unhappy with the camera.
Today I updated my firmware from 534 to 257 and I cannot see any differences in the pictures.
But this is only my view, maybe there are improvements which I do not see.
What is the problem? I have to admit I am quite happy with the camera.
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Guys these are two shots I took with the new firmware... not too bad I guess
This is @1000 iso... noise level is pretty good and white balance is better than earlier
This is in daylight with plenty of details
I think camera-quality is just where you can realistically expect it.
About on par or better than cheap compacts with same sensor-size, but as you can expect it can´t compete with high-end compacts like Canon G-Series, Panasonic LX, Olympus XZ or similar (I don´t want to mention Sony RX100(II) of course which is far ahead).
On the positive side is relatively low NR of luminance-noise which leaves most fine detail intact, virtually no ugly chroma-noise without the colors being washed out up to the highest sensitivities and quite low contrast which leads to quite good DR for a phone-camera (and of course also doesn´t hide the noise by clipping to black like many other phones)
Negative is mostly the camera-app, unfortunately most other phones aren´t better here as well:
The so called "Manual" mode is a joke, on a real camera this would qualify as P-Mode as most, but certainly not M.
Why are the even give you the chance to adjust ISO while not telling you the shutter-speed the camera will use is beyond me. It is not useful to set ISO yourself when you don´t know which shutter-speed you well get. Of course a real shutter-priority-mode would be much better, but I guess that´s to much to ask.
Superior-Auto is too limiting. I know this mode is meant for point&shoot, but I think the possibility to choose the AR you like wouldn´t be to overwhelming for beginners. And of course that you can only start superior-auto from the lockscreen or with the camera-button also is very stupid.
Besides the scene-recognition of superior-auto is also a bit hit&miss.
Also sharpening can be somewhat high, which emphasizes noise and can destroy fine detail.
Hi @ all
I would like to know if the camera of the Xperia Z really improved since the 10.1.1.A.1.253 update:
gsmarena. com/sony_xperia_z_gets_firmware_update_improves_camera_quality-news-6041.php
I'm really interested to buy a Xperia Z but nearly all reviews of the XZ criticised the camera quality, especially pictures taken in low light.
Thanks in advance for your answers and sorry for the link, cant post a working one due to <10 Posts.
OZ22 said:
Hi @ all
I would like to know if the camera of the Xperia Z really improved since the 10.1.1.A.1.253 update:
gsmarena. com/sony_xperia_z_gets_firmware_update_improves_camera_quality-news-6041.php
I'm really interested to buy a Xperia Z but nearly all reviews of the XZ criticised the camera quality, especially pictures taken in low light.
Thanks in advance for your answers and sorry for the link, cant post a working one due to <10 Posts.
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Camera quality is pretty good, now im ruinning 4.3 and before that 4.1 camera had some extra options like HDR and all, now most of the settings are composed into single ones, there is also one HDR in manual mode, overall performance is good, now it opens fast.
here i post some pics i took with it, i didnt do any corrections on photos.
Why don't you bump it up and buy a z1 it has a better.camera (I didn't try it my self) a few bucks wouldn't hurt
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OZ22 said:
Hi @ all
I would like to know if the camera of the Xperia Z really improved since the 10.1.1.A.1.253 update:
gsmarena. com/sony_xperia_z_gets_firmware_update_improves_camera_quality-news-6041.php
I'm really interested to buy a Xperia Z but nearly all reviews of the XZ criticised the camera quality, especially pictures taken in low light.
Thanks in advance for your answers and sorry for the link, cant post a working one due to <10 Posts.
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yes get the z1, it's got a better cpu, gpu, camera and battery size, the additional cost for it is worth it
Lol. The photos are mine.
Still auto mode and pics in low light still suck bigtime!! To be hounest, i feel a bit disapointed... The cameras of sony are reasenable good,so i thought that the camera was gonna kick my galaxy nexus his ass,but in low light. My nexus is not kicking sone Xz ass but kills it!
Moral of this story......buy a Z1 whahaha
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demon2112 said:
Still auto mode and pics in low light still suck bigtime!! To be hounest, i feel a bit disapointed... The cameras of sony are reasenable good,so i thought that the camera was gonna kick my galaxy nexus his ass,but in low light. My nexus is not kicking sone Xz ass but kills it!
Moral of this story......buy a Z1 whahaha
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Hahahahaha. Haha.
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demon2112 said:
Still auto mode and pics in low light still suck bigtime!! To be hounest, i feel a bit disapointed... The cameras of sony are reasenable good,so i thought that the camera was gonna kick my galaxy nexus his ass,but in low light. My nexus is not kicking sone Xz ass but kills it!
Moral of this story......buy a Z1 whahaha
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camera on z1 is not anywhere better (except for the mp count)
the hardware (camera) of z1 and is godly, but the software and image processing of sony is...meh.
i'm a fan of sony, but i think they should consider to look into galaxy s4's image processing, even though gs4 and xz has the same sensor, the image quality is different
Yeah definitely agree with u guys, the image quality in low light condition really suck. My xperia z always show purple dots or pixel in the black colored area. It feels like sensor problem, did u guys experienced it as well?? Or is it just me?
Thx
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Please don't complain about the camera i had the chance to try Samsung Note 2, Samsung Galaxy S3, Samsung Galaxy S4, Samsung Note 3 and i can say for a fact that they all do bad pictures for the megapixels they have. Cameras on phones are decent but still not as good as a dedicated digital camera.
Camera on 4.3 sucks! The noise level is crazy! Don't even need to zoom in and I can see the noise very clearly.
Can confirm the s4 comparison. I did a side by side test fiddling with different options and the s4 came out on top. Thought Sony would have the camera software on lock
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dreamville said:
Can confirm the s4 comparison. I did a side by side test fiddling with different options and the s4 came out on top. Thought Sony would have the camera software on lock
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agreed, it's better for sony to focus on their image processing technology, my dad has an s4 and his picture is around 5~10MB per photo, that's a size too large maybe, but the detail is really good, sony should decreasing their over-compressing of the photos.
Some one tried to put Camera libs and app from a 4.2 firmware on 4.3? New Camera for me is really bad
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Yeah definitely agree with u guys, the image quality in low light condition really suck. My xperia z always show purple dots or pixel in the black colored area. It feels like sensor problem, did u guys experienced it as well?? Or is it just me?
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Yeah definitely agree with u guys, the image quality in low light condition really suck. My xperia z always show purple dots or pixel in the black colored area. It feels like sensor problem, did u guys experienced it as well?? Or is it just me?
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Mine is fine. Is it always there?
CambaStorm said:
Some one tried to put Camera libs and app from a 4.2 firmware on 4.3? New Camera for me is really bad
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Maybe we need someone to make a flashable zip of JB's camera
My friend's S4 takes better pictures in lowlight.
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Xz camera really sucks , my old htc one x tooked a 5times better pictures comparing to this crap camera ,and it was 8mpx ,shame sony did such a good phone with such a disatering camera , and after 5 updates for that phone no improvement ,
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Yeah bit disappointing,it's great when there is plenty light but indoor Is garbage
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Hi,
i'm thinking about switching to something a bit bigger, from my Xperia Z1 Compact. Since the Xperia Z1 Compact camera quality isn't very good with custom roms, i'm wondering how the quality is with Marshmallow Roms on the M7...maybe someone has some example pics?
Greetings,
Hey man, as long as you use roms based on stock the camera will be the same.. Cyanogenmod for example is know for lousy camera but great performance. ..
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I wouldn't choose the m7 if picture quality is important for you. This is a great device but unfortunately the camera isn't performing well.
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Surely it's better, than my Z1C? Thanks for the replys anyway
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Surely it's better, than my Z1C? Thanks for the replys anyway
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Isn't the z1 compact equipped with a 20 mpx cam? The m7 is only 4 mpx with the first generation of the "ultrapixel" technology which is supposed to give better picture quality in low light conditions but isn't working really well imo...
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Isn't the z1 compact equipped with a 20 mpx cam? The m7 is only 4 mpx with the first generation of the "ultrapixel" technology which is supposed to give better picture quality in low light conditions but isn't working really well imo...
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It is, but the camera is pretty bad. Very, very noisey, not that much detail and so on...quality in low light conditions is horrible. Not sure, what Sony did with that Sensor, to make it that bad...