Hi,
i'm thinking about switching to something a bit bigger, from my Xperia Z1 Compact. Since the Xperia Z1 Compact camera quality isn't very good with custom roms, i'm wondering how the quality is with Marshmallow Roms on the M7...maybe someone has some example pics?
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Hey man, as long as you use roms based on stock the camera will be the same.. Cyanogenmod for example is know for lousy camera but great performance. ..
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I wouldn't choose the m7 if picture quality is important for you. This is a great device but unfortunately the camera isn't performing well.
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Surely it's better, than my Z1C? Thanks for the replys anyway
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Surely it's better, than my Z1C? Thanks for the replys anyway
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Isn't the z1 compact equipped with a 20 mpx cam? The m7 is only 4 mpx with the first generation of the "ultrapixel" technology which is supposed to give better picture quality in low light conditions but isn't working really well imo...
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alray said:
Isn't the z1 compact equipped with a 20 mpx cam? The m7 is only 4 mpx with the first generation of the "ultrapixel" technology which is supposed to give better picture quality in low light conditions but isn't working really well imo...
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It is, but the camera is pretty bad. Very, very noisey, not that much detail and so on...quality in low light conditions is horrible. Not sure, what Sony did with that Sensor, to make it that bad...
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Does anyone feel like Nokia lumia 520 camera in low light conditions is better than Xperia ZR ??
Even though we have 13 megapixel, i somehow feel under low light XZR isnt doing that great :/
13MP
Ye i too am very disappointed with the camera..Compared to my previous 8MP Incredible S and 8MP Sensation this is by far inferior.
can only do 9MP 16:9 otherwise make do with 13MP 4:3 and images are very grainy and there is no sharpness at all. would rather have a lagging shutter with good quality images than lag free with noise. the moment you try to zoom.. that's it the whole image distorts.. for my first xperia i am disappointed and thought sony camera would be far more superior than HTC's.
The camera isn't that bad but I agree it isn't the best considering its meant to be Sony's bread and butter. Low light conditions are not as great and may require you to adjust the settings. I know the xperia t and v has better picture quality but I'm sure this could be fixed in a firmware update much like the xperia z had. If you want bad you should try the nexus 4.
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If and when someone upgrades with the 4.2.2 please report what you think of the new camera/drivers
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Settings
Manual settings are far better than the superior settings they gave,
How about focusing?
Any suggestions on the settings for better pictures ?
how do u or what are the so called recommended manual settings?
Manual/Automatic
I have tried various options with very slight changes. It just seems the overall quality is average at best. my sony ericsson T650 3.2megapixel camera from years back produced much better photos than this.
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I have tried various options with very slight changes. It just seems the overall quality is average at best. my sony ericsson T650 3.2megapixel camera from years back produced much better photos than this.
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Yeah right! Such a troll.
Single focus...hdr on, pictures are somewhat better...check these 2 pics...first is far better than second..
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How could you tell, it's two totally different pictures ?
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Yea well..i was jus asking for tips..still the best was the setting I mentioned above..like if u zoom in these pics, first one does not have that noise as second one..i thot thats a factor to compare them..
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Yea well..i was jus asking for tips..still the best was the setting I mentioned above..like if u zoom in these pics, first one does not have that noise as second one..i thot thats a factor to compare them..
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noise depends on the ISO setting usually. a higher setting tends to cause more noise. so u cant compare 2 completely different pix unless u know for sure they were taken under the same lighting conditions, same amount of shake while pressing the camera button, etc.. the auto detection feature may sometimes detect the same situation differently. so it would be better if u take pix of the same subject in manual mode with different settings n then compare them.
also, HDR can cause noise coz it has to take 2 pix in different exposure settings. so if ur hand moves by as less as a millimeter in the time frame required by HDR, there will be a considerable amount of noise. try takin a pic of a moving subject in HDR mode n ull c what i mean
I'm on 4.2.2 and I just tried taking a few pictures indoors on superior auto and they look terrible I'm not sure if it improved from the previous firmware. It's like this camera turns itself into vga mode as soon as the sun goes down. These shots made my old galaxy s2 look like the best camera phone around. I'll just have to play with the settings and find what's best for now. Anyone got recommendations for indoor settings?
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The camera is just not very good it seems. Funny Sony is doing many of the other flagshipcameras this year for other companies but can't het their own app upp to par...
I found that moto x camera is faster and I can't see any big differences in quality and the camera JB + with punchfilter normally gives a little more nicety. Off cource perfectly Clear (etc) from playstore does also work good
Hopefully they'll do some wonder in the next update...
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Excellent in daylight!
I found the camera to be quite exceptional in daytime. The stock camera app processes the photos to increase sharpness. The details while zooming in are good in proper light.
However, the noise increases significantly in low light. The picture is fuzzy when zoomed in.
From my experience, Using the HDR mode is the only way to significantly reduce noise. The "Backlight correction + HDR" mode also works quite well.
Funny thing that the ''Night Mode" gave darker images then normal mode for me.
I just had the best camera experience for night mode shots yet.
I changed the settings to normal with auto flash on and HDR off with EV +1.
The pictures were much sharper but requires you to have a steady hand still it's much better. Got the idea off the Xperia Z forum. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2397058
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Maybe it would help....
It seems that funky camera credits goes to Exmor RS sensor which uses a "stacked structure" that layers a pixel section over a circuit section, which removes the need to confine the pixel and circuit section into a tight space that limits the size of each element. By fitting bigger components in the same area, the sensor has a more efficient design that captures a higher quality image. Higher noise too, I'd say.
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201208/12-107E/
Its the same camera as in S4 so it's most of all the driver/hardware behind the sensor that's not very good. Sony's just not very good putting stuff together. I have had a few and none is spectacular. Well see next generation of soft and updates, hopefully they'll put some effort in. To have a bit nicer photos indoor the same approach as in my S4, hdr is working ok.
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So what you guys think about the ZR's camera. Is it good or not ?! I plan to buy it next few months but consider more about it first.
Depends on your budget and if U really need a wwaterproof phone I'll presume. The camera is not the best but the phone is nice.
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Hi there,
I was excited when I bought my XZ yesterday. Everything's awesome about this device..except for one thing. The camera quality is a joke. I've had an Xperia Ion prior to the Z and that device's camera was way superior. I expected the quality to be better than the Ion's or at least the same. But this is not the case.
I'm feeling like using CameraZOOM fx improves the image quality a bit, but yet not well enough.
Does anyone know whether I can do something about this issue or not?
Thank you very much in advance.
There is a definite problem with the camera on this phone which so far Sony have both failed to acknowledge or fix.
The lense is the same as the S4 and the image quality on that is a million times better...
Strange
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Either take it back, cos it's faulty, or go to the optician, cos your eyes are faulty!
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Hi there,
I was excited when I bought my XZ yesterday. Everything's awesome about this device..except for one thing. The camera quality is a joke. I've had an Xperia Ion prior to the Z and that device's camera was way superior. I expected the quality to be better than the Ion's or at least the same. But this is not the case.
I'm feeling like using CameraZOOM fx improves the image quality a bit, but yet not well enough.
Does anyone know whether I can do something about this issue or not?
Thank you very much in advance.
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Wow...really?
Maybe have a read here.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39383273
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Hi everyone,hi to all my friends.
I want to ask very important question.Z1's camera is very bad I think. I am waiting for a better camera. My old phone Xperia Arc is better than Z1.Is this a software problem? Is there anyone who thinking like me? Or Are there some special settings for camera?
Mazellat said:
Hi everyone,hi to all my friends.
I want to ask very important question.Z1's camera is very bad I think. I am waiting for a better camera. My old phone Xperia Arc is better than Z1.Is this a software problem? Is there anyone who thinking like me? Or Are there some special settings for camera?
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yeah number of people are complaining for camera... actually hardware specs are good enough for a mobile but sony's software is a complete mess... all you can do is wait and try to upgrade it to latest version...
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yeah number of people are complaining for camera... actually hardware specs are good enough for a mobile but sony's software is a complete mess... all you can do is wait and try to upgrade it to latest version...
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What is the best stock firmware for camera? Are all firmwares same?
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Mazellat said:
What is the best stock firmware for camera? Are all firmwares same?
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you should use the latest one..of course latest will be a bit better.firmware is available here just check forum.....or use pc companion
Hello,
I am also very unhappy with the camera.
Today I updated my firmware from 534 to 257 and I cannot see any differences in the pictures.
But this is only my view, maybe there are improvements which I do not see.
What is the problem? I have to admit I am quite happy with the camera.
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Guys these are two shots I took with the new firmware... not too bad I guess
This is @1000 iso... noise level is pretty good and white balance is better than earlier
This is in daylight with plenty of details
I think camera-quality is just where you can realistically expect it.
About on par or better than cheap compacts with same sensor-size, but as you can expect it can´t compete with high-end compacts like Canon G-Series, Panasonic LX, Olympus XZ or similar (I don´t want to mention Sony RX100(II) of course which is far ahead).
On the positive side is relatively low NR of luminance-noise which leaves most fine detail intact, virtually no ugly chroma-noise without the colors being washed out up to the highest sensitivities and quite low contrast which leads to quite good DR for a phone-camera (and of course also doesn´t hide the noise by clipping to black like many other phones)
Negative is mostly the camera-app, unfortunately most other phones aren´t better here as well:
The so called "Manual" mode is a joke, on a real camera this would qualify as P-Mode as most, but certainly not M.
Why are the even give you the chance to adjust ISO while not telling you the shutter-speed the camera will use is beyond me. It is not useful to set ISO yourself when you don´t know which shutter-speed you well get. Of course a real shutter-priority-mode would be much better, but I guess that´s to much to ask.
Superior-Auto is too limiting. I know this mode is meant for point&shoot, but I think the possibility to choose the AR you like wouldn´t be to overwhelming for beginners. And of course that you can only start superior-auto from the lockscreen or with the camera-button also is very stupid.
Besides the scene-recognition of superior-auto is also a bit hit&miss.
Also sharpening can be somewhat high, which emphasizes noise and can destroy fine detail.
Hi @ all
I would like to know if the camera of the Xperia Z really improved since the 10.1.1.A.1.253 update:
gsmarena. com/sony_xperia_z_gets_firmware_update_improves_camera_quality-news-6041.php
I'm really interested to buy a Xperia Z but nearly all reviews of the XZ criticised the camera quality, especially pictures taken in low light.
Thanks in advance for your answers and sorry for the link, cant post a working one due to <10 Posts.
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Hi @ all
I would like to know if the camera of the Xperia Z really improved since the 10.1.1.A.1.253 update:
gsmarena. com/sony_xperia_z_gets_firmware_update_improves_camera_quality-news-6041.php
I'm really interested to buy a Xperia Z but nearly all reviews of the XZ criticised the camera quality, especially pictures taken in low light.
Thanks in advance for your answers and sorry for the link, cant post a working one due to <10 Posts.
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Camera quality is pretty good, now im ruinning 4.3 and before that 4.1 camera had some extra options like HDR and all, now most of the settings are composed into single ones, there is also one HDR in manual mode, overall performance is good, now it opens fast.
here i post some pics i took with it, i didnt do any corrections on photos.
Why don't you bump it up and buy a z1 it has a better.camera (I didn't try it my self) a few bucks wouldn't hurt
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Hi @ all
I would like to know if the camera of the Xperia Z really improved since the 10.1.1.A.1.253 update:
gsmarena. com/sony_xperia_z_gets_firmware_update_improves_camera_quality-news-6041.php
I'm really interested to buy a Xperia Z but nearly all reviews of the XZ criticised the camera quality, especially pictures taken in low light.
Thanks in advance for your answers and sorry for the link, cant post a working one due to <10 Posts.
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yes get the z1, it's got a better cpu, gpu, camera and battery size, the additional cost for it is worth it
Lol. The photos are mine.
Still auto mode and pics in low light still suck bigtime!! To be hounest, i feel a bit disapointed... The cameras of sony are reasenable good,so i thought that the camera was gonna kick my galaxy nexus his ass,but in low light. My nexus is not kicking sone Xz ass but kills it!
Moral of this story......buy a Z1 whahaha
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Still auto mode and pics in low light still suck bigtime!! To be hounest, i feel a bit disapointed... The cameras of sony are reasenable good,so i thought that the camera was gonna kick my galaxy nexus his ass,but in low light. My nexus is not kicking sone Xz ass but kills it!
Moral of this story......buy a Z1 whahaha
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Hahahahaha. Haha.
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demon2112 said:
Still auto mode and pics in low light still suck bigtime!! To be hounest, i feel a bit disapointed... The cameras of sony are reasenable good,so i thought that the camera was gonna kick my galaxy nexus his ass,but in low light. My nexus is not kicking sone Xz ass but kills it!
Moral of this story......buy a Z1 whahaha
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camera on z1 is not anywhere better (except for the mp count)
the hardware (camera) of z1 and is godly, but the software and image processing of sony is...meh.
i'm a fan of sony, but i think they should consider to look into galaxy s4's image processing, even though gs4 and xz has the same sensor, the image quality is different
Yeah definitely agree with u guys, the image quality in low light condition really suck. My xperia z always show purple dots or pixel in the black colored area. It feels like sensor problem, did u guys experienced it as well?? Or is it just me?
Thx
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Please don't complain about the camera i had the chance to try Samsung Note 2, Samsung Galaxy S3, Samsung Galaxy S4, Samsung Note 3 and i can say for a fact that they all do bad pictures for the megapixels they have. Cameras on phones are decent but still not as good as a dedicated digital camera.
Camera on 4.3 sucks! The noise level is crazy! Don't even need to zoom in and I can see the noise very clearly.
Can confirm the s4 comparison. I did a side by side test fiddling with different options and the s4 came out on top. Thought Sony would have the camera software on lock
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Can confirm the s4 comparison. I did a side by side test fiddling with different options and the s4 came out on top. Thought Sony would have the camera software on lock
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agreed, it's better for sony to focus on their image processing technology, my dad has an s4 and his picture is around 5~10MB per photo, that's a size too large maybe, but the detail is really good, sony should decreasing their over-compressing of the photos.
Some one tried to put Camera libs and app from a 4.2 firmware on 4.3? New Camera for me is really bad
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Yeah definitely agree with u guys, the image quality in low light condition really suck. My xperia z always show purple dots or pixel in the black colored area. It feels like sensor problem, did u guys experienced it as well?? Or is it just me?
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Yeah definitely agree with u guys, the image quality in low light condition really suck. My xperia z always show purple dots or pixel in the black colored area. It feels like sensor problem, did u guys experienced it as well?? Or is it just me?
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Mine is fine. Is it always there?
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Some one tried to put Camera libs and app from a 4.2 firmware on 4.3? New Camera for me is really bad
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Maybe we need someone to make a flashable zip of JB's camera
My friend's S4 takes better pictures in lowlight.
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Xz camera really sucks , my old htc one x tooked a 5times better pictures comparing to this crap camera ,and it was 8mpx ,shame sony did such a good phone with such a disatering camera , and after 5 updates for that phone no improvement ,
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Yeah bit disappointing,it's great when there is plenty light but indoor Is garbage
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Hi all.I want to buy one of these two devices I'm interested what is better choise camera,rom development etc? Tnx in advance
Rom choice for both phones is near similar. The camera is really up to what you mainly use it for. As a point and shoot casual photographer (not needing high megapixel count) the One has a spectacular camera. Zoe option in sense roms is fantastic, multi capture is amazing for getting that perfect picture (it will capture a ton of pictures and you pick the best of the bunch). Due to the "ultra pixel" camera, low light images come out crisper and brighter than the higher megapixel competitors. Only downfall is you will not want to crop much of the image due to lie pixel count. For day to day regular photos, it gets the job done.
In benchmarking, the S4 is a little faster, but I see no difference between the two side by side. Unlocking the bootloader, in my opinion, is easier on HTC phones than Samsung. Only downfall is going back to complete stock usually requires s-off, which if you get a One with the 1.57 hboot, you have a 50/50 chance of s-off exploit working.
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Uzephi said:
Rom choice for both phones is near similar. The camera is really up to what you mainly use it for. As a point and shoot casual photographer (not needing high megapixel count) the One has a spectacular camera. Zoe option in sense roms is fantastic, multi capture is amazing for getting that perfect picture (it will capture a ton of pictures and you pick the best of the bunch). Due to the "ultra pixel" camera, low light images come out crisper and brighter than the higher megapixel competitors. Only downfall is you will not want to crop much of the image due to lie pixel count. For day to day regular photos, it gets the job done.
In benchmarking, the S4 is a little faster, but I see no difference between the two side by side. Unlocking the bootloader, in my opinion, is easier on HTC phones than Samsung. Only downfall is going back to complete stock usually requires s-off, which if you get a One with the 1.57 hboot, you have a 50/50 chance of s-off exploit working.
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tnx for such clear answer :good:
You could find more images in the forum, but here is one I just randomly took. This was taken in a very dark part of the parking lot. The image actually turned out brighter than how dark it really was. No editing, just straight from the capture.
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Hi all.I want to buy one of these two devices I'm interested what is better choise camera,rom development etc? Tnx in advance
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HTC One is "sensual" i can't say the same for the Galaxy.
The 4 UP camera is not a problem and much more better than the 13 MP of the Gs4 if you use manual settings
About the sound the One wins again
In fact except these points the 2 phones are equivalents and balanced
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HTC One is "sensual" i can't say the same for the Galaxy.
The 4 UP camera is not a problem and much more better than the 13 MP of the Gs4 if you use manual settings
About the sound the One wins again
In fact except these points the 2 phones are equivalents and balanced
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Yes, the sound is amazing on the one, he specifically didn't ask about that, but it is true, the audio driver on stock based roms is amazing.
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