Unlocked Phone<Debranding - One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

If your phone is locked to a specific carrier, Is unlocking the bootloader the equivalent too debranding
If so, then once unlocked isn`t it possible to run any RUU to get it back to a factory state of some sort...
Nevermind. lol

XdaNonDeveloper said:
If your phone is locked to a specific carrier, Is unlocking the bootloader the equivalent too debranding
If so, then once unlocked isn`t it possible to run any RUU to get it back to a factory state of some sort...
Nevermind. lol
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No.... unlocking the bootloader will make no difference to carrier branding, to do this you will need to flash a stock or custom rom.
In order to run any RUU you will need to s-off your device but this can only be done if you have an hboot of 1.44. Without s-off you can only run the RUU for your specific device.

And Btw it is currently illegal to sim unlock your device.
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razieltov said:
And Btw it is currently illegal to sim unlock your device.
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No it is not. Most carriers will unlock them for you for a fee and there are numerous other services which will also do this.

So your basically saying with S-Off, I dont need to run around looking for my device specific RUU file, which by the way does not exist..anywhere.
What should I expect after flashing any RUU file, negative affects...sim card not working..etc

See I flashed a custom Kernal and my camera crapped out.. I would just like to have it back and right now it seems like a full Factory is the only method

What is the best RUU file for a bell Canada match.. International maybe..or even developer..hmm. I may very well just s-off my phone to do this cause my camera means much to me.

rider5512 said:
No it is not. Most carriers will unlock them for you for a fee and there are numerous other services which will also do this.
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I meant in the states its illegal to sim unlock a phone yourself. The carrier can unlock it and its not illegal.

razieltov said:
I meant in the states its illegal to sim unlock a phone yourself. The carrier can unlock it and its not illegal.
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I've never heard of this where did you get this info from I live in Texas
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joselv456 said:
I've never heard of this where did you get this info from I live in Texas
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This is a new law passed by the library of congress.
It'll probably take one or two years to repeal.
Regardless, it's not illegal for you because you have a time machine.

the1onewolf said:
This is a new law passed by the library of congress.
It'll probably take one or two years to repeal.
Regardless, it's not illegal for you because you have a time machine.
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Yes I do but I really haven't heard of this law and I work for a local phone shop and we do unlocks all the time lol
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joselv456 said:
Yes I do but I really haven't heard of this law and I work for a local phone shop and we do unlocks all the time lol
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Yes, its illegal for new phones. But phones sold before the beginning of the year are ok. Yes its a stupid law and it should and hopefully will be repelled.

So if the phone is unlocked and s-off AND has a custom rom it isn't carrier specific anymore correct?

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HELP ME Please! Dead nexus one... no recovery!

I'm blocked on bootloader with S-ON, i can't use fastboot and there isn't a recovery installed on my phone... please can anyone help me?
Unlock the bootloader.
Solved via fastboot and unlocked bootloader...thanks! Is there a way to relock the bootloader?
Look up Blackrose bootloader mod in Development forum.
--__LoRiS__-- said:
Solved via fastboot and unlocked bootloader...thanks! Is there a way to relock the bootloader?
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No way yet to relock the bootloader unless you have S-OFF. At this point, the only way to get S-OFF is to use an XTC clip.
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efrant said:
No way yet to relock the bootloader unless you have S-OFF. At this point, the only way to get S-OFF is to use an XTC clip.
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care to provide more info?? this sparked my interest.
Speedmaster_102 said:
care to provide more info?? this sparked my interest.
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What kind of info do you want?? If you want S-OFF on your N1, buy an XTC clip. There's a link in my signature.
Relocking the bootloader isn't needed. If you want to get rid of the padlock sign - flash Blackrose bootloader, it'll give you that and much more. Personally, I don't think there's a good reason to want to relock the bootloader.
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Personally, I don't think there's a good reason to want to relock the bootloader.
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I agree with you, except there is one reason to want to re-ock the bootloader: to say that you can. Whether it's a good one, is debatable.
With the blackrose the guaranty is the same avoid??? The only reason is guaranty...
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With the blackrose the guaranty is the same avoid??? The only reason is guaranty...
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As I said earlier, Blackrose does NOT re-lock the bootloader, so the warranty is still void.
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For that your right so an experienced user would know to look in bootloader to see if the security is set to S-off but I bet you htc just check to see if there is a padlock (I say this because when I got mine repaired the guy didn't even seem to know what cyanogen mod was so I doubt they know about blackrose) so technically your warranty is void but you can probably get away with a repair anyway. Though this is pretty irrelevant because the nexus one has a 1 year warranty and the nexus one was no longer sold by this time last year so everyone's warranties should be expired by now.
Dude Random21 said:
For that your right so an experienced user would know to look in bootloader to see if the security is set to S-off but I bet you htc just check to see if there is a padlock (I say this because when I got mine repaired the guy didn't even seem to know what cyanogen mod was so I doubt they know about blackrose) so technically your warranty is void but you can probably get away with a repair anyway. Though this is pretty irrelevant because the nexus one has a 1 year warranty and the nexus one was no longer sold by this time last year so everyone's warranties should be expired by now.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: although unlocking your bootloader technically voids your warranty, based on users' experiences here and in other forums, HTC will still honor it, despite an unlocked bootloader.
By the way, some N1's have 2-year warranties, depending on where you bought it.
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Ya I've herd of a few cases that the bootloader was unlocked and they got repairs anyway but I've also herd of some where they didn't so a 50 - 50 chance isn't that good, so it's better to put the odds on your side. Now the fact that some N1's had a 2 year warranty that I had no idea so thanks for the info.

[Q] Does the developer version have s-off?

I guess nobody will know for sure until April 19th, but I've seen conflicting reports online that the HTC One Developer Edition is S-ON and then I've also read it's S-OFF.
Does anybody have any other information on this?
It's not gonna be s-off. Confirmed by HTC dev reps on twitter.
what makes it developer then?
MacHackz said:
what makes it developer then?
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My thoughts exactly it's just sim unlocked and bootloader unlocked. Much cheaper imo to just buy a sim unlocked one for $100 cheaper and unlock the bootloader myself.
rayford85 said:
My thoughts exactly it's just sim unlocked and bootloader unlocked. Much cheaper imo to just buy a sim unlocked one for $100 cheaper and unlock the bootloader myself.
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I got mine in England for the cheapest price here (750.08 US Dollars), is it cheaper over there?
MacHackz said:
I got mine in England for the cheapest price here (750.08 US Dollars), is it cheaper over there?
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http://htconeprereg.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41620 quite a bit cheaper
rayford85 said:
My thoughts exactly it's just sim unlocked and bootloader unlocked. Much cheaper imo to just buy a sim unlocked one for $100 cheaper and unlock the bootloader myself.
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It's 64gig though
Ok, so this is going to be my first Android phone (I'm currently using an iPhone 5) and obviously I have a LOT of reading, but how big of problem is it that this isn't S-Off? Will I still be able to use Cyanogen ROMs, etc? What are the other disadvantages?
(I also thought I read that S-Off devices can have stock Android flashed to them?)
sofakng said:
Ok, so this is going to be my first Android phone (I'm currently using an iPhone 5) and obviously I have a LOT of reading, but how big of problem is it that this isn't S-Off? Will I still be able to use Cyanogen ROMs, etc? What are the other disadvantages?
(I also thought I read that S-Off devices can have stock Android flashed to them?)
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You can still flash roms with S-On, just not radios or kernels inside recovery . This has to be done via fast boot. Therefore you need to have access to a PC to flash kernels .
sofakng said:
Ok, so this is going to be my first Android phone (I'm currently using an iPhone 5) and obviously I have a LOT of reading, but how big of problem is it that this isn't S-Off? Will I still be able to use Cyanogen ROMs, etc? What are the other disadvantages?
(I also thought I read that S-Off devices can have stock Android flashed to them?)
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Yes you can still use cyanogenmod. S-Off is just for those guys who really want 100% control over their phone.
iaeonn stock,
Ahhh, OK. Thanks!
So basically you can still do everything (i.e. flash kernels, ROMs, etc) you can with S-On that you can with S-Off but you need a PC to enter fastboot mode (?)
This doesn't sound like such a big deal then...
sofakng said:
Ahhh, OK. Thanks!
So basically you can still do everything (i.e. flash kernels, ROMs, etc) you can with S-On that you can with S-Off but you need a PC to enter fastboot mode (?)
This doesn't sound like such a big deal then...
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Correct, plus TWRP Dumlock allows you to flash kernels on the go anyway
Don't know about s-off but bootloader unlocked. I've seen screen shots online. Can't remember where I saw it but it popped up a few times yesterday and this morning on my Blinkfeed. Google it and I'm sure you'll find it.
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Can you flash radios at all?
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Already been stated earlier that the bootloader is unlocked, which is really easy to do anyway.
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i only want s-off for two and only two reason
-> fastboot oem writecid 11111111
warranty
-> fastboot oem writesecureflag 3

Bootloader unlock says no but o2 say I can still unlock my bootloader

My bootloader allowed lock says no but o2 on pay monthly say I can still unlock my bootloader. They took my imei number and are processing the lock and I have to wait for a email and this can take 7 working days to process. Has any one else done this? As I'm still in my 14 day peace of mind and might send back but they do say will be able to unlock my bootloader
Edit
Just had a email to unlock my phone to any network so just unlocked and it still says bootloader unlock allowed no
But they said I could, do I just try it?
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I hope you have done it like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2153261
Took me seven seconds yesterday to get the unlock key on mail
danlivesey said:
My bootloader allowed lock says no but o2 on pay monthly say I can still unlock my bootloader.
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No they don't, the code you have isn't for unlocking the bootloader, just the SIM.
Before even trying to unlock the BL, I'd suggest your TA partition just in case.
Mine also said no at first, but I was still able to unlock it.
Dsteppa said:
Before even trying to unlock the BL, I'd suggest your TA partition just in case.
Mine also said no at first, but I was still able to unlock it.
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Who did you get the phone from? Mine is from Three UK and resolutely does not let me unlock the bootloader. Did you use the Sony method? Which rom etc?
nikc0069 said:
Who did you get the phone from? Mine is from Three UK and resolutely does not let me unlock the bootloader. Did you use the Sony method? Which rom etc?
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Hmm stock Rom unbranded, bought it in the Netherlands. Most people here that bought the same phone aren't able to unlock their BL, maybe I just got lucky. The trick that worked for me was simply rooting the phone.
Dsteppa said:
Hmm stock Rom unbranded, bought it in the Netherlands. Most people here that bought the same phone aren't able to unlock their BL, maybe I just got lucky. The trick that worked for me was simply rooting the phone.
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I think you did just get lucky or you just got a sim free handset by the luck of the draw. Which root method did you use? Someone else posted that they tried a specific combo of roms and two tries to unlock before it worked but never fed back any more info so it is possible there is an exploit somewhere.
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I think you did just get lucky or you just got a sim free handset by the luck of the draw. Which root method did you use? Someone else posted that they tried a specific combo of roms and two tries to unlock before it worked but never fed back any more info so it is possible there is an exploit somewhere.
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Used the one I attached, can't really remember the topic.
Need to have USB debugging on.
Cheers. And the exact process? Step by step. I know it is tedious but it may be the tiniest thing (eg when you detached the usb cable or whether the sd card was in) that holds the secret.
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Cheers. And the exact process? Step by step. I know it is tedious but it may be the tiniest thing (eg when you detached the usb cable or whether the sd card was in) that holds the secret.
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Give up chasing it, if it was at all possible then it would have been figured out by now.
nikc0069 said:
Cheers. And the exact process? Step by step. I know it is tedious but it may be the tiniest thing (eg when you detached the usb cable or whether the sd card was in) that holds the secret.
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I really don't remember, since I've unlocked my BL I just flash a zip to get root back.
I firmly believe in Xda being able to make the impossible, possible. And there are no flawless systems. However I get what you mean, and don't think anyone is going to push on it now. Xperia Z is still a great phone and here is hoping the upcoming Google Edition will give us with locked bl more choice.
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[Q] Unlocking with HTCDev

Hey. I've been wanting to unlock the bootloader of my One and stupidly enough I accepted the 4.2.2. OTA so I can't really use revone now because of the updated hboot. Anyways, my only option seems to be using the HTCDev tool but here's where my paranoia comes to mind. Are they keeping a record on whoever's unlocked their One? Basically, I don't want them knowing I've unlocked it - mostly because they have no need to know it.
I guess I could wait until revone is updated but I have no idea when that'll be, hence my question.
Cheers.
They probably keep a record of who has requested an unlock token - but I doubt they can tell if you have used it or not..
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I just want to unlock my bootloader, but I hate that everything's wiped. With revone, nothing's wiped but then again I'm not sure if S-OFF's ever possible on 1.54. Then I'm stuck.
1.54 can't be s-off'd at the moment. Hopefully soon though
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redbull123 said:
1.54 can't be s-off'd at the moment. Hopefully soon though
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I know it can't. I hope it happens soon.
Theshawty said:
I know it can't. I hope it happens soon.
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Ok, sorry - I thought you said your weren't sure..
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I'm not sure if S-OFF's even possible on 1.54.
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Theshawty said:
Hey. I've been wanting to unlock the bootloader of my One and stupidly enough I accepted the 4.2.2. OTA so I can't really use revone now because of the updated hboot. Anyways, my only option seems to be using the HTCDev tool but here's where my paranoia comes to mind. Are they keeping a record on whoever's unlocked their One? Basically, I don't want them knowing I've unlocked it - mostly because they have no need to know it.
I guess I could wait until revone is updated but I have no idea when that'll be, hence my question.
Cheers.
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I don't know the situation in Norway but in Holland HTC sends the phones in to a 3rd party repair company (dynafix, fixes all types of phones, also does (warranty) repairs for eg samsung) for warranty repairs, I doubt they can or bother to look into the database and see if an unlock token has been requested. I think the technicians have been instructed to look at the bootloader status (unlocked/relocked) and been instructed to deny warranty in such cases as much as possible.... I send in my device for warranty s-off(with revone though never unlocked via htcdev), but with locked bootloader, and it was repaired under warranty
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Ok, sorry - I thought you said your weren't sure..
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Typo. I meant "ever".
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godutch said:
I don't know the situation in Norway but in Holland HTC sends the phones in to a 3rd party repair company (dynafix, fixes all types of phones, also does (warranty) repairs for eg samsung) for warranty repairs, I doubt they can or bother to look into the database and see if an unlock token has been requested. I think the technicians have been instructed to look at the bootloader status (unlocked/relocked) and been instructed to deny warranty in such cases as much as possible.... I send in my device for warranty s-off(with revone though never unlocked via htcdev), but with locked bootloader, and it was repaired under warranty
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I don't know the situation in Norway either. I don't live there.
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Theshawty said:
I don't know the situation in Norway either. I don't live there.
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sweden then... I just looked at your carrier
Theshawty said:
Hey. I've been wanting to unlock the bootloader of my One and stupidly enough I accepted the 4.2.2. OTA so I can't really use revone now because of the updated hboot. Anyways, my only option seems to be using the HTCDev tool but here's where my paranoia comes to mind. Are they keeping a record on whoever's unlocked their One? Basically, I don't want them knowing I've unlocked it - mostly because they have no need to know it.
I guess I could wait until revone is updated but I have no idea when that'll be, hence my question.
Cheers.
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as long as its an Online process, and its done over the internet and requires your IMEI & SN i am %100 they keep record of your history.
unlike samsung which uses Odin app to unlock, Root, Flash stuff without going online

Is Sunshine the only way to unlock the m8 without htcdev?

So long story short I don't want HTC to have any info about what I'm doing with my phone because I've had a major issue with that in the past and I want to unlock it, root it and get s-off still. So with having a completely stock m8, sunshine is the way to go for me? Sorry if someone already posted something like this.
You can try Firewater first since it's free.
Am also sure you need to be rooted to s-off which means you need to unlock the bootloader using htcdev.
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You can try Firewater first since it's free.
Am also sure you need to be rooted to s-off which means you need to unlock the bootloader using htcdev.
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I'm aware of that but I'm asking if sunshine is the only way to unlock without htcdev at all. Period.
FunnySideUp said:
I'm aware of that but I'm asking if sunshine is the only way to unlock without htcdev at all. Period.
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One of the requirements to use sunshine is to be rooted
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One of the requirements to use sunshine is to be rooted
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Not anymore. Read the first paragraph of the OP:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=
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Not anymore. Read the first paragraph of the OP:
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Ahh okay I see now so it gains root access by it's self so it is currently the only way to s-off with htcdev.
I know of no other method.
AmSick said:
Ahh okay I see now so it gains root access by it's self so it is currently the only way to s-off with htcdev.
I know of no other method.
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Alright so this answers my question then. Kinda wish I didn't have to pay $25 but the freedom having my phone and doing anything with it w/o htc knowing is worth it
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Alright so this answers my question then. Kinda wish I didn't have to pay $25 but the freedom having my phone and doing anything with it w/o htc knowing is worth it
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If Firewater had worked for me I would've been more than happy using HTC Dev with it. Just because you are requesting an unlock code from HTC does not prove that you actually used it so it's debatable whether using it or not has any real impact on their knowledge of your intended uses for your phone.
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If Firewater had worked for me I would've been more than happy using HTC Dev with it. Just because you are requesting an unlock code from HTC does not prove that you actually used it so it's debatable whether using it or not has any real impact on their knowledge of your intended uses for your phone.
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I personally had a horrible coincidence where my phone was not properly functioning from day 1 and I happened to have used htcdev so they had more than enough reason to blame me for the faulty components and charged me money to fix it since unlocking it voids the manufacturer warranty. So if you're fine with telling htc that you're unlocking your phone that's fine, I'm personally not going to do that again as long as I have an HTC device.
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I personally had a horrible coincidence where my phone was not properly functioning from day 1 and I happened to have used htcdev so they had more than enough reason to blame me for the faulty components and charged me money to fix it since unlocking it voids the manufacturer warranty. So if you're fine with telling htc that you're unlocking your phone that's fine, I'm personally not going to do that again as long as I have an HTC device.
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What state did you return the phone in? Was it still unlocked and rooted? S-Off? Did you attempt a faux-lock/s-on or anything like that?
To contrast some of the horror stories that people have regarding returning a HTC device for service, @Captain_Throwback has sent numerous devices to HTC and has never had an issue. His devices were rooted & S-off.

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