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Root, warranty, going back

Hello all,
I just come from the HTC hero and I bought the nexus one. My hero was rooted and it was nice, I ve seen tutorials to explain how to root the nexus one, but it seems it breaks the warranty. Is there a way to unroot the nexus one as we could for the htc hero?
If not, will there be a way soon guys?
Thanks for helping me, as I d lke to root the nexus one, but loosing the warranty is a big problem....do you have feedback on rooted nexus one sent to warranty?

I may be wrong, but i don't think that rooting breaks the warranty. It's unlocking the bootloader that breaks the warranty. That's two different things.
And as far as i know, it's quite easy to unroot, but it's almost impossible to relock an unlocked bootloader.

Please post in right section thanks.

mmm; ok, but can we install custom roms without unlocking the bootloader?

Nope, don't think so

You cannot install custom roms without unlocking the bootloader, and u cant unlock the bootloader without breaking the warranty. There are quite a few threads on this already, try search next time

Confused
So it is possible to root the nexus one without unlocking the bootloader? If so how..?

To root the phone or install a custom ROM, u need to unlock ur bootloader... which also means goodbye warranty

in order to root your phone you must unlock your boot loader first. so when you unlock your boot loader to root you lost your warranty.

You guys all say "goodbye warranty" as if HTC isn't replacing/repairing rooted Nexus's... This alone has been steering many people away from rooting the N1. I know 2 people that had rooted N1's and they both got their devices replaced by HTC and that doesn't count all the people posting here that have also been successful even though they have rooted phones.

I have rooted/unlocked my bootloader. Then I found that I had the dust under the screen issue. Contacted HTC they sent a replacement. I sent the phone in, restore to stock besides the bootloader being unlocked. They received it, inspected it, and that was that. My case was closed with no questions asked.

[Q] HTC Dev/Tampered question

Ok, have searched couldn't find any information about my question directly. Am looking at unlocking my first HTC device (My Samsungs were so much easier...not easier but less complicated) and have a question in relation to the warranty and the process of unlocking as first time have to deal with the Tampered flag and HTC Dev.
Unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty but now that there is S-off you can get rid of the tampered flag. But you still have to have to use HTC Dev to unlock the bootloader. So won't HTC have a log of you doing this and can void your warranty irrespective if you get rid of the tampered flag and relock the phone? As am from Australia may not deal with HTC direct but you never know.

Well, requesting an Unlock_code.bin from HTCDev doesn't mean you're gonna use it and HTC will never know if you'd use the token or not. So, imho I think warranty should be fine as long as you set your bootloader to "locked" status before sending it for service.

You don't need to go through HTCDev if you use revone.

hello there , im new to htc but have read a lot about rooting and unlocking , so i was getting excited to root my new HTC ONE which i bought from Dubai just few days ago , anjd b4 doing anything and just going to the bootloader there was my surprise!!!! it says " tampered and unlocked" shudnt this be only if i unlocked it personally????, and adding to my surprise when i wanted to check the stock recovery which it turned out to be CWM ,, now im wondering , does this come with a new Fon or does it mean the Seller sold me a used Fon?
thanks

badboykiller said:
hello there , im new to htc but have read a lot about rooting and unlocking , so i was getting excited to root my new HTC ONE which i bought from Dubai just few days ago , anjd b4 doing anything and just going to the bootloader there was my surprise!!!! it says " tampered and unlocked" shudnt this be only if i unlocked it personally????, and adding to my surprise when i wanted to check the stock recovery which it turned out to be CWM ,, now im wondering , does this come with a new Fon or does it mean the Seller sold me a used Fon?
thanks
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The boot loader being unlocked could possibly be wherever you bought it installing third party software, but no new phone will come with CWM Recovery.
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[Q] root by using exploit

Hi,
I'm looking to root my HTC One. I know the easy way is to unlock bootloader, flash recovery, flash su, done, but there is that part about "may void your warranty". I read that HTC will still repair hardware issues even if the bootloader is unlocked, but still I'm curious about different ways to root.
So... as far as I can tell by looking at the htcdev kernel source the kernel is vulnerable to the sw_perf_event exploit (http://packetstormsecurity.com/files/121616/semtex.c), and than there is this project https://github.com/android-rooting-tools/libperf_event_exploit.
I was wondering if anyone made that exploit work on the M7 (aka found the right offset) and also if you think it would be worth rooting with that. I guess I won't be able to flash new ROMs as the bootloader would still be locked, right? Or will I be able to flash the recovery partition withoud needing to unlock the bootloader (I guess not)?
Thanks

sciepy said:
Hi,
I'm looking to root my HTC One. I know the easy way is to unlock bootloader, flash recovery, flash su, done, but there is that part about "may void your warranty". I read that HTC will still repair hardware issues even if the bootloader is unlocked, but still I'm curious about different ways to root.
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this is false. you will have to pay for any repairs performed on the device.

Blanket statements like this are troublesome. The warranty coverage varies by country. I've had warranty replaced phones that were rooted with no problem here in the US

[Q]Unlocking bootloader voiding warranty?

I have heard that some of the phones are being shipped with unlocked bootloader? So i was wondering if i unlock bootloader but don't manager to S-OFF it, does it void my warranty?

shad0wboss said:
I have heard that some of the phones are being shipped with unlocked bootloader? So i was wondering if i unlock bootloader but don't manager to S-OFF it, does it void my warranty?
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Developer editions are shipped with an unlocked bootloader. If your phone is not a dev edition, unlocking its bootloader may void your warranty as explained at htcdev.com/bootloader

shad0wboss said:
I have heard that some of the phones are being shipped with unlocked bootloader? So i was wondering if i unlock bootloader but don't manager to S-OFF it, does it void my warranty?
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also, as I found out a few days ago, when having a live chat with HTC customer services about the 5.1 update, as soon as they get your serial number, they know everything about your phone, so if you s-off'd it and converted to to dev edition, they know it was sent out and shipped as a 401 phone, ie. WWE europe by your IMEI or serial number, they can still refuse a warranty repair as they know you converted / messed with it yourself.
ps. we will get 5.1, they wouldnt say if it was with sense 6 or 7, and ETA is still unknown, 5.0 is still shipping.

Seanie280672 said:
also, as I found out a few days ago, when having a live chat with HTC customer services about the 5.1 update, as soon as they get your serial number, they know everything about your phone, so if you s-off'd it and converted to to dev edition, they know it was sent out and shipped as a 401 phone, ie. WWE europe by your IMEI or serial number, they can still refuse a warranty repair as they know you converted / messed with it yourself.
ps. we will get 5.1, they wouldnt say if it was with sense 6 or 7, and ETA is still unknown, 5.0 is still shipping.
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Well, S-OFF and just locking bootloader later before repair might still void my warranty as they'll know that i, at some point, unlocked the phone...So why bother locking bootloader?
Also I'm on lollipop and i heard that sunshine doesn't S-OFF on lollipop and trying would mean that i'll have to unlock bootloader first which may turn out to be a fail attempt... GAH HTC.....

shad0wboss said:
Well, S-OFF and just locking bootloader later before repair might still void my warranty as they'll know that i, at some point, unlocked the phone...So why bother locking bootloader?
Also I'm on lollipop and i heard that sunshine doesn't S-OFF on lollipop and trying would mean that i'll have to unlock bootloader first which may turn out to be a fail attempt... GAH HTC.....
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technically yes, but im not so sure they actually record or bother looking up whether you unlocked your bootloader or not, plenty of people have returned their phone back to 100% stock, removed the flags, locked the bootloader, gone s-on and had their phones repaired by HTC under warranty.
As for sunshine, no it doesnt yet support lollipop, and if your on Lollipop and locked, why would you want to unlock and s-off at the moment ? I understand it has some bugs still, but its still the best yet (in my opinion), however, ive never used sunshine myself, but i think you can run it on a locked bootloader, im sure I read it does everything for you, unlocks and s-off's.

Seanie280672 said:
technically yes, but im not so sure they actually record or bother looking up whether you unlocked your bootloader or not, plenty of people have returned their phone back to 100% stock, removed the flags, locked the bootloader, gone s-on and had their phones repaired by HTC under warranty.
As for sunshine, no it doesnt yet support lollipop, and if your on Lollipop and locked, why would you want to unlock and s-off at the moment ? I understand it has some bugs still, but its still the best yet (in my opinion), however, ive never used sunshine myself, but i think you can run it on a locked bootloader, im sure I read it does everything for you, unlocks and s-off's.
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Yes, sunshine does (recently) support lollipop. Version 3.0.3 is available.
Change Log
Version 3.0.3
Fixed two "Unexpected Errors"
Fixed one SuperSu Hang
Fixed HTC CDMA TempRoot Crash
Fix paypal crash
Added Mini2/Remix (s400) support
Now supporting all 4.4.4 HTC
Now supporting all rootable 5.0.x HTC
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http://theroot.ninja/download.html

[Q]s-off vs unlocked bootloader

What are the benefits of s-off over just unlocked boot loader

by unlocking bootloader u can root ur device, can flash custom recovery & custom roms on ur android device....

shad0wboss said:
What are the benefits of s-off over just unlocked boot loader
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I don't have this particular device but I will tell you the general information and you can work with that.
About Bootloader(Unlocked Bootloader):
The bootloader is like a BIOS of your PC. It is the thing that is powered on and verifies all hardware and is responsible for making connection with the hardware. This can either be unlocked or locked. When you have a locked bootloader you can still root (if an exploit is available). You can even install a recovery or custom rom if an exploit is available (like BUMP was). What was it doing? Signing the images for your so the locked bootloader will think it is the OEM image. In most of the cases this is not so happy. Usually you can't flash a recovery or a custom rom or stuff like that with a locked bootloader. Some OEM's provide websites to unlock the bootloader (with the cost of losing warranty; well not really). This is the case of Sony, HTC. Some Oem's don't provide this.
About S-off:
What does S-off mean? Security off. Your device will come with S-ON always unless it's a Dev edition (correct me if I am wrong). What this does is it doesn't leave you to do very advanced operations related to the EMMC (the Nand chip). You can't flash a bootloader you wish or stuff like that. Update radio partition. In some cases system partition is also secured so you can't flash a custom ROM. By S-off you get full control of your device but if a mistakes occurs you will end up with a hard-bricked device.
Peace. Hope you understood.

neutrondev said:
I don't have this particular device but I will tell you the general information and you can work with that.
About Bootloader(Unlocked Bootloader):
The bootloader is like a BIOS of your PC. It is the thing that is powered on and verifies all hardware and is responsible for making connection with the hardware. This can either be unlocked or locked. When you have a locked bootloader you can still root (if an exploit is available). You can even install a recovery or custom rom if an exploit is available (like BUMP was). What was it doing? Signing the images for your so the locked bootloader will think it is the OEM image. In most of the cases this is not so happy. Usually you can't flash a recovery or a custom rom or stuff like that with a locked bootloader. Some OEM's provide websites to unlock the bootloader (with the cost of losing warranty; well not really). This is the case of Sony, HTC. Some Oem's don't provide this.
About S-off:
What does S-off mean? Security off. Your device will come with S-ON always unless it's a Dev edition (correct me if I am wrong). What this does is it doesn't leave you to do very advanced operations related to the EMMC (the Nand chip). You can't flash a bootloader you wish or stuff like that. Update radio partition. In some cases system partition is also secured so you can't flash a custom ROM. By S-off you get full control of your device but if a mistakes occurs you will end up with a hard-bricked device.
Peace. Hope you understood.
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Thanks!
Things is, i was more concerned about the practical info about this device specifically because I have read that with just bootloader unlocked, the roms that i'll be able to flash will only change the visual and not so much with the kernel etc. I don't understand why people would choose to S-OFF for this device for other than just relocking the bootloader.

shad0wboss said:
Thanks!
Things is, i was more concerned about the practical info about this device specifically because I have read that with just bootloader unlocked, the roms that i'll be able to flash will only change the visual and not so much with the kernel etc. I don't understand why people would choose to S-OFF for this device for other than just relocking the bootloader.
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Sorry I can't really help you with that information I don't know if you can flash a Custom kernel with S-on. Never had a sony. Someone will help you out soon.I hope.

i'l bump this question up then :/

I think S-off is a term unique to HTC devices. Its the equivalent of an unlocked bootloader

tonysunshine said:
I think S-off is a term unique to HTC devices. Its the equivalent of an unlocked bootloader
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yes but nth to lose on HTC except warranty (still subject to which svc ctr tho) while on Sony, losing DRM keys (w/o backup) are like downgrading ur phone full capabilities.

monx® said:
yes but nth to lose on HTC except warranty (still subject to which svc ctr tho) while on Sony, losing DRM keys (w/o backup) are like downgrading ur phone full capabilities.
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Is there a way to root without losing keys? I have Z3 LTE D6603 atm.
Sorry if it's a dumb question, I'm new here. And also new to sony rooting, which seems much more complex than my old Nexus 5 lol

tonysunshine said:
I think S-off is a term unique to HTC devices. Its the equivalent of an unlocked bootloader
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Not really, you can flash kernels, roms ( aosp roms etc ) with unlocked bootloader, S-off gives you other stuff like changing mid, cid, sim unlock, downgrading/upgrading bootloader, converting to full GPE or dev edition, unlocking bootloader without need of HTC, flashing splash image, custom bootloaders, even converting to Windows ( if available of course ) locking it instead of re-locking it, restoring it to full stock state ( which is not possible without S-off ), simply put your device has no limits with S-off on HTC.
Anyway S-off isn't really needed unless you care for the things above ( if Sony even has S-off ), Sony has poor development so S-off isn't even needed or unlocking bootloader since basically all you get is aosp roms, stock alike roms are flashable with locked bootloader as far as I remember.
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