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So has anyone got a Note without the black crush / clipping problem?

Seriously can't work this one out, do I get my screen changed or not?
Should I wait to see if ICS makes it any better?
This phone is perfect for me except this issue with the blacks / greys. Even when i zoom in on dark parts of pictures taken with the phones camera it turns into a pixelated mess, so this is defiantly not a low quality source issue, its hardware or software related, but which?
Advice please guys. Many thanks!

I know! Right?
The screen Is freaking awesome, simply the best on any smartphone, but why those blacks haven't been fixed yet???
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I really am at a loss to what you guys are complaining about. I'm either not that fussy, or deluded to the fact that what I think I am seeing as 'bad' I pass off as something else.
From what I've read around the forums, what should be a shaded series of greys/blacks in an area are appearing as blocks of black/darkgrey instead of a gradual change.
I've always thought this was down to how videos/images where compressed or decompressed and displayed - which would almost certainly be software and not hardware?

davexeno said:
I really am at a loss to what you guys are complaining about. I'm either not that fussy, or deluded to the fact that what I think I am seeing as 'bad' I pass off as something else.
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Same here. My blacks look fine most of the time. When I do get grey blockiness I'm pretty sure it's due to poor compression in the video file, because other videos, large black areas look fine.
Can anyone give a link to a video available online in which this problem occurs (and the point in the video we should be looking at).
Maybe then we can get some objective testing with everyone using the same source file.
Maybe even have people doing screenshots to compare screens.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366014&page=4
I'm rarely using my phone in dark enough conditions to notice.
ICS should improve gradients, but won't fix the black crush if it is indeed a problem with the screen hardware.

I am probably going to regret this, as my Note was perfect except for this black crush issue, but I sent mine back to be replaced. And the issue was not just on videos for me so poor quality encodes are not the problem, I was getting it even with pictures taken with the phones camera. Said pictures taken with the Note displayed fine on my pc and my wifes Galaxy s 2, so it is deffo a problem with the device.
Please lets not turn this into another "who cares" or "its not that noticeable" debate like the other threads, all I am aiming at with this thread from now is to find out if there are any Notes in existence that do not have this issue!
Thanks.

I refuse to look for a problem that is not there.....
There is no phone or portable device in existence that is color accurate, either tonally or temperature or gamma correct out of the box, and to expect such is to be, well, expecting quite a bit too much.
Why do i make that statement?.. Well, given that a monitor or TV at ANY price are not accurately calibrated.
To get an accurately calibrated monitor requires a display worth using, then a color tone/temperature/gamma calibration system (which is ~$200 & up) and software that can use the resulting calibration profiles...
The SGN is a phone... tbh there is no "fault" or "problem" here, other than unrealistic customer expectations...
Would a settings app that could set globally set color temp & gamma be helpful? sure.. there is enough color temp variation in the spread of production tolerances in phone to make this useful... stop a ll the pink white /blue white issues
But will it make the SGN a color accurate display?.. no.
So... lets wave a magic wand and make it so... whats the point? the camera does not justify it, the movies you watch are overly compressed and not color accurate (never mind compression artifacts of banding, blocking and shading), youtube videos have no quality controls.. online TV, website videos and stills have major color saturation issues.. so what content will you access that is going to be useable on a color accurate display?..
well, 4 beers down and 2c more spent..

Mystic38 said:
I refuse to look for a problem that is not there.....
There is no phone or portable device in existence that is color accurate, either tonally or temperature or gamma correct out of the box, and to expect such is to be, well, expecting quite a bit too much.
Why do i make that statement?.. Well, given that a monitor or TV at ANY price are not accurately calibrated.
To get an accurately calibrated monitor requires a display worth using, then a color tone/temperature/gamma calibration system (which is ~$200 & up) and software that can use the resulting calibration profiles...
The SGN is a phone... tbh there is no "fault" or "problem" here, other than unrealistic customer expectations...
Would a settings app that could set globally set color temp & gamma be helpful? sure.. there is enough color temp variation in the spread of production tolerances in phone to make this useful... stop a ll the pink white /blue white issues
But will it make the SGN a color accurate display?.. no.
So... lets wave a magic wand and make it so... whats the point? the camera does not justify it, the movies you watch are overly compressed and not color accurate (never mind compression artifacts of banding, blocking and shading), youtube videos have no quality controls.. online TV, website videos and stills have major color saturation issues.. so what content will you access that is going to be useable on a color accurate display?..
well, 4 beers down and 2c more spent..
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Dude, my pc plays / displays these movies and images fine with no artifacts, as does my tv, as does my partners Galaxy s 2, as does my Nexus s, so how can you say that there is no problem?
Anyway, I just had a look at my cousins Galaxy Note and that one is playing these movies fine, and is displaying the pictures taken with my Note without the chess board effect, so if you are happy to pay over £400 for a defective device thats up to you, but many of us expect to get what we paid for.

I just found this on you tube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8aIGeLERg many people find this a problem.

CONTACTMC said:
I just found this on you tube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8aIGeLERg many people find this a problem.
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I agree with you it is a problem and even supercurio has been on it and he is a developer so someting isnt right so lets hope it gets fixed cause many people suffer with it

CONTACTMC said:
I just found this on you tube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8aIGeLERg many people find this a problem.
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The problem is clear enough to see there, but it's not one I've ever noticed on my Note. I just tried playing this YouTube clip on my Note....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syxd2n8S4AE
and could see nothing wrong with the video performance in a darkened (curtains drawn during daytime) room. I wonder how well this clip plays for other people on the Note.
I made a video of the Note playing this clip and I'm uploading it at the moment. It will take a while (81 minutes remaining at the moment) as I shot in 1080p. I'll post a link when it's ready.
FWIW I'm on the latest official ROM and my phone was sourced from Germany in early November. From my perspective there is no problem, which might make it quite hard for Samsung to fix.

My Note is running on ICS (CM9) and the color rendering is substantially improved over stock GB. Gradients are smoother and blacks are rendered cleaner.

My video is up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl0SKxnqa2I

tdodd said:
My video is up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl0SKxnqa2I
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I've played the same clip on my Note and it looks exactly like yours, no banding/crushing/clipping whatsoever.
I've tried a lot of Youtube clips and movie trailers but in only one of them I could see obvious artefacts during a fade out. I played the same clip on my pc and saw the same thing happen there so that's probably just lousy encoding.

Thanks for putting that video up, I hope my replacement looks like yours, its due tomorrow.

I got me new note, this one is set to uk language instead of german like the one I returned. It has the exact same issue, drops from 4 grey to 3 complete black and i am still getting the clipping, bloody Samsung, this was meant to be an upgrade from my nexus s, but most stuff looks better on that! Not gonna excahnge again, I will wait for ICS and see if Samsung actually acknowledge the issue.

@Mystic38. Whilst I agree with you that most consumer devices don't come calibrated to industry standards and that most consumer devices lack the essential settings found on the most basic of professional displays, I fail to see how any colour, contrast, hue, gamma or brightness calibration would affect the overall appearance, unless of course you are cranking the settings beyond anything useful and crushing the dynamics intentionally.
It's difficult to introduce visual banding or blocking in high BIT rate video or lightly compressed images by tweaking settings and calibration by a couple of percent alone, as there are near on 17 million colours. This leaves thousands of grey levels to play with and the human eye shouldn't notice banding or blocking with that many greys.
This presumably points to an issue with the way that video is presented to the screen driver or how the screen driver drives the screen. There's probably an issue with crushing where the hardware converts the digital signal to electronic levels of each AMOLED element. I have seen this problem on other devices, not just phones and most of the time it was rectified after a software upgrade.
Another thing to remember is that companies like Samsung are fully aware and accommodating of the fact that a lot of people now use these types of phones as monitors for photography and video production as I do. I use DSLR Controller and have no problem with crushing. Using the phone as a monitor has been extremely helpful and negated the expense of something which would have cost over 10 times the price.
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I just got round to trying the ,png gamma test file on my Note. It fails the test. Everything below 4 is black and as you go through the numbers from 4 and above there are bands grouping four levels into one tone. Worse still, the tones alternate from greenish to purple instead of being shades of grey. Interestingly if I perform a screen capture the capture is a true reflection of what I see, which implies to me that the Note is actually sending bad values to the screen rather than a hardware problem, because surely the screen capture only cares about the data, not the physical appearance produced.
Looking at the same file on my laptop everything is presented correctly, so obviously the file is not the problem.
Yet despite failing this test I have never noticed a problem with the Note to cause me concern in normal every day use.

tdodd said:
I just got round to trying the ,png gamma test file on my Note. It fails the test. Everything below 4 is black and as you go through the numbers from 4 and above there are bands grouping four levels into one tone. Worse still, the tones alternate from greenish to purple instead of being shades of grey. Interestingly if I perform a screen capture the capture is a true reflection of what I see, which implies to me that the Note is actually sending bad values to the screen rather than a hardware problem, because surely the screen capture only cares about the data, not the physical appearance produced.
Looking at the same file on my laptop everything is presented correctly, so obviously the file is not the problem.
Yet despite failing this test I have never noticed a problem with the Note to cause me concern in normal every day use.
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Have you viewed it in the gallery or in a browser? With my Note everything below 4 is crushed in the stock ICS browser but I can see everything in the gallery.

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Have you viewed it in the gallery or in a browser? With my Note everything below 4 is crushed in the stock ICS browser but I can see everything in the gallery.
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I think the gallery uses a different color gradient and temperature than the stock ICS browser, much as if you view a rich encoded black contrast video on the stock video player and on a custom app video player like MX player... you get varying results...
I think this issue is a mix of both a hardware and software one, and though the Official ICS upgrade "might" alleviate this problem, I surely believe also that since this is a combination of a hardware problem, the clippings are still there but perhaps not quite noticeable anymore....

Atrocious frame rate on camera and gTalk

Coming from Galaxy Nexus, my N4 is giving more surprises, and not in a good way.
In addition, to much higher display response time that results in noticeable trail behind any on-screen object that requires screen to change pixels, I have noticed that camera has extremely low frame rate when used in picture taking mode. It can barely pull 8-10 frames per second. It works ok in video taking mode.
This would not have been much of a problem if this also wasn't the case in gTalk. I often use gTalk video chat to talk to my wife. For whatever reason, gTalk seems to access camera in this "picture taking mode" that pulls off 8fps at best regardless of available bandwidth. This results in sub par video chat experience when compared against GNex on the same wireless network.
I don't understand why this is the case. One would assume with the power of S4 behind it, it could do any picture/video processing at a much faster rate than GNex, but that is not the case. I also don't understand why Google's native gTalk video chat seems to access the camera in the wrong mode.
I hope this makes sense.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553
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Thank you for the link. However, this deals bitrate/fps for video taking purposes. My problem is abysmal processing in picture taking mode that results in only a few fps in camera and gTalk applications. Am i missing something?

paul2003ca said:
Thank you for the link. However, this deals bitrate/fps for video taking purposes. My problem is abysmal processing in picture taking mode that results in only a few fps in camera and gTalk applications. Am i missing something?
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I'm telling you this is the thread for all camera/camcorder mods for this device that I have seen. If it isn't there, then you have your answer. Why not post in the thread asking if there is s way to increase frame rate?
Edit: because you have 5 posts. Time to get that post count up.

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I'm telling you this is the thread for all camera/camcorder mods for this device that I have seen. If it isn't there, then you have your answer. Why not post in the thread asking if there is s way to increase frame rate?
Edit: because you have 5 posts. Time to get that post count up.
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I probably haven't articulated my observation well. It isn't the frame rate of the video that I am concerned with, it is
1. poor performance of image processing in the camera app in picture mode, particularly given N4's S4 processor
2. odd implementation of gTalk video which clearly accesses camera in this "picture mode" instead of much smoother video mode.
Thanks,

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I probably haven't articulated my observation well. It isn't the frame rate of the video that I am concerned with, it is
1. poor performance of image processing in the camera app in picture mode, particularly given N4's S4 processor
2. odd implementation of gTalk video which clearly accesses camera in this "picture mode" instead of much smoother video mode.
Thanks,
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I probably haven't articulated my response well.
Post in the thread I linked. That is where people, people who can fix things, are hanging out and discussing ways to better the cameras. My very first post should have made that clear.

GTalk>settings > (your account) >voice and video chat > default video effect > change settings might help.
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Only settings on the mobile app are for image stabilization.
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mrbkkt1 said:
GTalk>settings > (your account) >voice and video chat > default video effect > change settings might help.
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No effects same result. Comparing a Galaxy Nexus, One X, S3 and Nexus 4 side by side the N4 is by far the worst. The frame rate is terribly low (all over the same wifi network).

krohnjw said:
No effects same result. Comparing a Galaxy Nexus, One X, S3 and Nexus 4 side by side the N4 is by far the worst. The frame rate is terribly low (all over the same wifi network).
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Thank you for your feedback. It really helped me to understand that it wasn't just my individual phone.
I am hopeful it is a software issue. What puzzles me is that it is a fairly obvious one and is found in a native Google application. In addition, they had the power of S4 for image processing/compression and the result is still really bad.
I have sold my Nexus 4 yesterday for essentially what I bought it off Google Play because of this (and other, primarily display response time issues). This issue is probably not significant enough for most people. However in my case, I really grew to rely on gTalk video over HSPA to see my wife (who is also a GNex owner) and son on regular basis during the day. It works great on GNex and unfortunately felt like a downgrade when I tried it with Nexus 4.
I would love to hear if this issue gets fixed in the future.

Just curious if you see this same behavior when using Skype.

Can anyone confirm whether this bug was fixed in 4.2.2?
Thanks!

Smoothvideo Project (SVP)

From the website:
"SVP allows you to watch any video on your PC file with frame interpolation (like you can watch it on high-end TVs and projectors). It increases frame rate by generating intermediate animation frames between existing ones to produce very smooth, fluid and clear motion. The technology is well-known for a while ("TrimensionDNM", "Motion Plus", "Motionflow" and others), but now it's available for free to PC users with simple GUI and just a couple of mouse clicks.
SVP provides GPU acceleration and it's possible to watch FullHD 1080p-video recalculated to 60Hz in real-time with mid-range CPU and almost any GPU hardware.
SVP actually is not a video player itself, but it enables almost any player to play smooth video."
I've been using this for a few days now and have been blown away by it. The initial kneejerk reaction when using it for the first time is that it's a little odd. We're so used to seeing video played back at the same low frame rates that we've had for decades that it takes a little time for the brain to adapt. For the first couple of hours of using it myself i had no intention of keeping it installed. After the second day of using it you couldn't pay me to go back to watching low frame rate video again! It's a night and day difference.
I could go on being effusive but you really need to try it yourselves to make your own minds up. All i would say is use it for a couple of days. You'll be impressed. The SVP package includes, and is preconfigured for MPC-HC. It does work with other players too though. I would recommend installing the full package using the default settings, ensuring that you've removed any other instances of MPC, Codecs and Filters first. And you do need reasonably decent hardware to run it well too.
Playing back a 1080 video uses 40% on all cores with my 3770K and 25% on my GTX570. I for one am actually glad to have something to run on a daily basis that justifies having spent money on good hardware though. Today i've watched a selection of HD movies and sport and each time it's taken my breath away how life-like everything appears. The clarity and immersion is incredible.
Here are some more links about SVP and HFR video:
Guru3D
Short Wikipedia entry
Interactive Demo
Demo Videos
Here are two short clips from Sons Of Anarchy. The first is normal framerate and the second at 60fps:
Original
HFR
The difference should be immediately obvious watching those two clips. If it's your first time watching HFR playback you might have experienced what people call the 'soap opera effect'. I know i did. That's what takes getting used to, but you soon do. It's LFR video that looks wrong to me now!
The flip side to using Frame Interpolation is artifacting. I found it intolerable with the default SVP settings, but setting 'Artifacts Masking' to 'Strongest' in each Profile has almost completely eliminated it for me. I might notice it once or twice during an entire movie only using that setting. Beside that, you might want to select the option for running SVP at Windows Startup and disabling the SVP On Screen Display too.
It's a profound change. James Cameron and Peter Jackson say it's the future of film. I would agree. Give it a go and see for yourselves.

Sounds pretty awesome. I'll give it a try and see if I like it.

Jessica said:
Sounds pretty awesome. I'll give it a try and see if I like it.
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It's not an audio clip that it sounds good it looks good
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Is it free?
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DanceOff said:
It's not an audio clip that it sounds good it looks good
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I know what it is.

Jessica said:
I know what it is.
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Lets be straight you were wrong firstly stop promoting amazon on aliens private chat forum
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Is there a tl;dr version?

jaszek said:
Is there a tl;dr version?
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No its a super boost mod for space ship DX-164B
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sy224048 said:
Is it free?
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I know its tl; dr but at least read the first paragraph.

I'm watching live sport at normal framerate right now and it looks like a stuttering, jittery mess. Once you go HFR, you can't go back.

Ok I read it now. Soap Opera for me, and trust me, I wont get used to it. I like watching my video at 24 - 30fps, the natural frame rate of the human eye.

Will give this a try, i am used to that effect on the TV already, it wont matter.
Aaand welcome back Dirk! Again!
Quoting wiki here "Thomas Edison said that 46 frames per second was the minimum: 'anything less will strain the eye.'"

jaszek said:
Ok I read it now. Soap Opera for me, and trust me, I wont get used to it. I like watching my video at 24 - 30fps, the natural frame rate of the human eye.
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Eyes don't see at a frame rate. There aren't any frames... everything is continuous. But when viewing anything above 60fps, eyes can't really tell the difference.

veeman said:
Eyes don't see at a frame rate. There aren't any frames... everything is continuous. But when viewing anything above 60fps, eyes can't really tell the difference.
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My eyes are special. I have the sharingan in one eye, byakugan in the other. I can see everything.
PS: I don't expect anybody to get this.

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Eyes don't see at a frame rate. There aren't any frames... everything is continuous. But when viewing anything above 60fps, eyes can't really tell the difference.
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I think I read somewhere, that when compared to video, we see at 30fps. Not saying that we DO see at 30fps, but that's what the video equivalent would be. That's why watching 29.95fps (most) movies they have a natural feel to them, and with something like The Hobbit with 50fps, most critics hated it, and said the 25fps version was much more pleasant to watch.

Yup Hobbit was 48fps..they are critics after all. I thought higher fps in 3D=less strain.
Anyway, I tried reading about this whole frame rate and eye thing yesterday night and gave up. Glad i didn't take up medicine in college...

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I think I read somewhere, that when compared to video, we see at 30fps. Not saying that we DO see at 30fps, but that's what the video equivalent would be. That's why watching 29.95fps (most) movies they have a natural feel to them, and with something like The Hobbit with 50fps, most critics hated it, and said the 25fps version was much more pleasant to watch.
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The human eye doesn't see in still frames, The reason why shooting at 24fps became standard was because first, it was just high enough to give a sequence of images a continuous look, while second being not so high that it became too expensive in celluloid costs.
As for The Hobbit. Remember the kneejerk reaction i mentioned? After a century of film being played back at 24fps we have become used to that. Of course it looks a little strange at first when seeing HFR for the first time. For most people, watching The Hobbit was the very first time they had been exposed to it. A lot of people conceded that by the end of the film they had not only grown accustomed to it, but also didn't notice it any more. It took all of a couple of hours for the soap opera effect to disappear for me too, as it does for everyone. As i said in the OP, you have to use it for a day.
Have a look at the Poll results on CNET. Most people liked the HFR version of The Hobbit btw:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57559560-221/poll-did-you-like-the-smoother-hfr-hobbit/
As i said before, i've used SVP all weekend on a variety of media and it is amazing. Once i had to watch something at normal speed after being adapted to HFR it really exposed the difference. LFR is a stuttering, blurry mess in comparison.
HFR is the future. James Cameron has already committed to it for his future projects. Most good quality HDTVs are released now with different implementations of Interpolation that people are getting used to using. SVP just brings that ability to the PC/HTPC. The same software also makes it possible to re-encode any movie you have made to 60fps ready for uploading or sharing, but improving the quality of them. Great for fast moving gameplay videos. The package also includes SVPTube, a nifty little app that lets you play back YouTube videos in real time with HFR applied to it. Pretty cool!

Ichigo said:
My eyes are special. I have the sharingan in one eye, byakugan in the other. I can see everything.
PS: I don't expect anybody to get this.
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Ah that's the second naruto refrence I had to read today. Well I'll give it a try.
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Ichigo said:
My eyes are special. I have the sharingan in one eye, byakugan in the other. I can see everything.
PS: I don't expect anybody to get this.
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I used to be so into anime that i got it
This program is free though right?
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Blurry Vision? (QHD Display)

EDIT: Is it just me or is this normal for QHD or display of this size to exhibit scrolling blur. Whilst browsing using chrome or XDA app anytime I scroll I find that nothing is crisp it seems to be blurry until the scrolling comes to a stop. With this type of quality display I expected better, or am I just being too picky? Anyone else notice this or have the same issue.

The display is QHD (2k) nor UHD (4k). Also there is no scrolling blur for me when I use chrome or XDA. Did you change anything in the phone?

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The display is QHD (2k) nor UHD (4k). Also there is no scrolling blur for me when I use chrome or XDA. Did you change anything in the phone?
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My bad, lol... I haven't changed a thing. Adaptive brightness set at default ambient display switched on. No other changes, not rooted ATM, just stock??

I just got one with project Fi and coming from an HTC M8 I see the scroll blur. Makes me wonder about OLED TVs.

I've never seen this issue. Are you sure it is a display artifact and not some kind of rendering / performance improvement for scrolling in stock?
I'm using a custom rom.
What you could do is try and record your screen using an app like this...https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mistygames.screenrecord. If the issue doesnt appear on the video but does appear to your eyes, then it is the screen. If it is on the video, it is your software.
Like I said, never seen it myself, though that doesnt mean its not there,
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I just got one with project Fi and coming from an HTC M8 I see the scroll blur. Makes me wonder about OLED TVs.
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All TV technologies, when new are inferior to previous technologies that they replaced. The previous technology has always had time to develop. For instance, LCD TVs are pretty good now, but my 2006 and also 2009 LCD TV's have terrible motion "jerk". I still use that 2009 TV.
OLED have only been out what? 2 years on TVs? Yeah I wouldn't necessarily buy a 2 year old model.
If this issue is a screen issue, it's worth noting that the screen on the N6 is old OLED technology. It is not up to date, like the Samsung Note 4.

[Q] Underwhelming demo experience at Best Buy - thoughts?

OK, Just went to Best Buy to demo the gear VR. First - the demo time is limited to 3 minutes which made it a little difficult to get a good idea.
My major problem with the demo was the image quality. Now I was not expecting miracles. I have read the forums and expected sd effect but this was major sd. Large pixels were unfocused where one could see the red/green/blue. It was almost like an old crt that had been badly focused. I almost wondered if they had a bum unit.
I was watching the trailers in the movie theaters btw.
So Im wondering - is this basically the quality one should expect from the VR currently? Has anyone had experience loading their own films on the unit and is the quality better than the trailers loaded on the unit?
Any opinions would be appreciated (Again - Im wondering if the unit they had was just a bad one)
Thanks

stevegee111 said:
OK, Just went to Best Buy to demo the gear VR. First - the demo time is limited to 3 minutes which made it a little difficult to get a good idea.
My major problem with the demo was the image quality. Now I was not expecting miracles. I have read the forums and expected sd effect but this was major sd. Large pixels were unfocused where one could see the red/green/blue. It was almost like an old crt that had been badly focused. I almost wondered if they had a bum unit.
I was watching the trailers in the movie theaters btw.
So Im wondering - is this basically the quality one should expect from the VR currently? Has anyone had experience loading their own films on the unit and is the quality better than the trailers loaded on the unit?
Any opinions would be appreciated (Again - Im wondering if the unit they had was just a bad one)
Thanks
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Did you try adjusting the focus wheel?

Yes - the focus wheel had little to no effect. Almost as if it was there for show.

Possibly broken but remember it's only a QHD screen so there will be pixels visable. We need to wait for 8k screens... I love me gearvr and amazed our phones offer this ability
-= Note 4 & Gear VR =-

Sounds like a defective unit to me. Yes the picture isn't perfect but "unfocused and can see the red/green/blue "definitely not. I've watched gravity, avatar ,xmen and godzilla all in 3d on the vr and obviously it's not like watching in on a hd TV but you are watching it on a 100ft large screen in a virtual cinema which you can't do at home

Wondering - Has anyone loaded on hd rips of movies and watched them vs the trailers that they have pre-loaded?
Is the quality improved? Maybe their trailers are low bit rate. Thanks

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Sounds like a defective unit to me. Yes the picture isn't perfect but "unfocused and can see the red/green/blue "definitely not. I've watched gravity, avatar ,xmen and godzilla all in 3d on the vr and obviously it's not like watching in on a hd TV but you are watching it on a 100ft large screen in a virtual cinema which you can't do at home
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Doesn't sound broke. I can always see the red/green/blue in pixels when focused. It always reminded me of CRT TVs.

I don't see the red/green/blue at all. Sounds like defected units. Also my pixals are extremely small. Maybe because I have 15/20 vision with my contacts in? I don't know.

Hardcore73 said:
I don't see the red/green/blue at all. Sounds like defected units. Also my pixals are extremely small. Maybe because I have 15/20 vision with my contacts in? I don't know.
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I see them pretty clearly

They are visible if you focus your attention on them. Once you focus your mind on video or game they disappear.
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I believe focus issues have a lot to do with the alignment of your eyes and the 3D effect. If you eyes are not aligned properly then the 3D effect may create a double image
Also I've noticed the eyepad with the nose bridge included positions the device on your face for better focus.
Another issue is just getting used to a slightly screen door image. Also remenber these movies et al are largely in FHD not QHD and that is also hurting the experience.
If your phone is rooted you can also increase the DPI which may help with pixel size.
Part of enjoying this is your brain just getting used to it. I find that focusing tightly on what I'm looking at as opposed to generally staring in a direction helps focus. Its not that focus with the unit is poor so much as the 3D tech is imperfectly tuned for each person. Also I think we've come to expect 3D things to jump out at us; however thus is not the effect 3D has in real life. In real life 3D merely adds depth and that is what this does more than in your face hollywood 3D.
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Try setting your DPI to 400.