I encrypted my 32gb moto x and have discovered that my voice commands are halted by the PIN prompt. It will proceed as usual if I enter the PIN but this defeats the purpose of not having to touch the device. The only feature that seems to work is giving a command to call out. Is there any way around this? I'm not sure how this would be possible without creating a vulnerability in the system, i.e. mimic my voice. Could I only encrypt part of the drive to nestle photos and other data in? The skip is a little better but still I have to "touch" the device.
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Hawaiidoc said:
I encrypted my 32gb moto x and have discovered that my voice commands are halted by the PIN prompt. It will proceed as usual if I enter the PIN but this defeats the purpose of not having to touch the device. The only feature that seems to work is giving a command to call out. Is there any way around this? I'm not sure how this would be possible without creating a vulnerability in the system, i.e. mimic my voice. Could I only encrypt part of the drive to nestle photos and other data in? The skip is a little better but still I have to "touch" the device.
Thanks
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I don't think this has to do with encryption. Mine isn't encrypted but I do have a pin screen unlock and it prompts me to unlock it when I do voice searches like "who won the last world series" or whatever. I don't understand why but I think that is normal operation of the phone and not due to you having encrypted it.
By the way, was there any performance hit or did it warn you that HD video or anything like that would be impacted by encrypting the device?
reviving this thread - I would like to encrypt my phone, but would that mean having to place a password on my device each time I unlock it? I would rather the password/PIN enabled at bootup only.
basically, I do not want to lose the ability to use bluetooth via my car and the touchless controls if my device requires to be touched due to the encryption.
anyone that has encrypted their phone care to chime in?
thanks!
jco23 said:
reviving this thread - I would like to encrypt my phone, but would that mean having to place a password on my device each time I unlock it? I would rather the password/PIN enabled at bootup only.
basically, I do not want to lose the ability to use bluetooth via my car and the touchless controls if my device requires to be touched due to the encryption.
anyone that has encrypted their phone care to chime in?
thanks!
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i had to encrypt my phone as a result of my employer's corporate email policies. encryption requires you to input a password when your phone is powered on/rebooted, in order to decrypt the device. in addition to that, boot times take twice as long because the OS boots once, realizes your data is encrypted, then boots again.
as far as unlocking the device, encryption forces you to have at minimum NFC unlock (moto skip), which isn't as painful as having to put in a pin every time. however, all active notifications and touchless controls work as expected.
with that said, my corp policies put so many restrictions on my phone, i couldn't even use the touchless controls with my phone locked. device administrator blocked them. long story short, i'm rooted now.
640k said:
i had to encrypt my phone as a result of my employer's corporate email policies. encryption requires you to input a password when your phone is powered on/rebooted, in order to decrypt the device. in addition to that, boot times take twice as long because the OS boots once, realizes your data is encrypted, then boots again.
as far as unlocking the device, encryption forces you to have at minimum NFC unlock (moto skip), which isn't as painful as having to put in a pin every time. however, all active notifications and touchless controls work as expected.
with that said, my corp policies put so many restrictions on my phone, i couldn't even use the touchless controls with my phone locked. device administrator blocked them. long story short, i'm rooted now.
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thanks for the response. I probably would encrypt if I didn't have to do that moto skip or password unlock. just don't want to have to carry that piece around with me and take the time to enter a password (I know, I know, it only takes a second with a pattern, but still quite annoying). but I suppose that's the price you pay for security.
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Do active notifications and other lockscreen goodies work when you have a PIN code set?
PS Why are some people having wet dreams over these when Symbian had it years ago?
it doesn't. after you say the "ok google now" and your pin lock is already active, the phone will have you type your pin before it starts registering your google now queries.
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it doesn't. after you say the "ok google now" and your pin lock is already active, the phone will have you type your pin before it starts registering your google now queries.
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Unless you have a skip!
The other thing you could do is take advantage of the Trusted Bluetooth Devices feature. Not perfect, but if you're around a device you usually pair with you can avoid having the device lock.
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it doesn't. after you say the "ok google now" and your pin lock is already active, the phone will have you type your pin before it starts registering your google now queries.
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He's also asking about active notifications, which will still be displayed even if a PIN is set. However, the PIN will still be required to get into the phone.
plasticmoz said:
The other thing you could do is take advantage of the Trusted Bluetooth Devices feature. Not perfect, but if you're around a device you usually pair with you can avoid having the device lock.
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I'm hoping someone comes up with a low power bluetooth beacon I can hang on my keys. Wander away too far from the phone and it locks itself. The only question is whether an activesync policy would allow that.
thedosbox said:
He's also asking about active notifications, which will still be displayed even if a PIN is set. However, the PIN will still be required to get into the phone.
I'm hoping someone comes up with a low power bluetooth beacon I can hang on my keys. Wander away too far from the phone and it locks itself. The only question is whether an activesync policy would allow that.
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As far as I'm aware, activesyncs just require your phone to have security enabled. I'll test it with mine once it comes in and try to let you know.
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As far as I'm aware, activesyncs just require your phone to have security enabled. I'll test it with mine once it comes in and try to let you know.
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I suspect it depends on how they've interpreted the "Password enabled" policy. My current device interprets that as PIN or password only - no pattern or face unlock.
I'll be interested to hear your results though.
thedosbox said:
I suspect it depends on how they've interpreted the "Password enabled" policy. My current device interprets that as PIN or password only - no pattern or face unlock.
I'll be interested to hear your results though.
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I believe my Vivid even interpreted Password Required as a pattern unlock...so it may depend on ActiveSync server and device.
Hi Everyone ,
I'm new to this whole Sony Xperia thing being a new convert from the iPhone , so forgive me if this sounds a bit odd.
I've just enabled and activated the Find 'My Xperia' utility , that on the face of it is like iPhone's 'Find my phone' , the only difference and correct me if I'm wrong here , whats to stop me turning it off in the settings (assuming i have no pin on the keypad - ok so i'd deserve it if that was the case). But it also seems easy enough to reflash my 'lost' phone with a virgin stock firmware and then thats the find my xperia utility disabled , as it needs to be active on the phone as well as online. IOS stops you doing this by locking the phones repair and activation unless you unlock it with your iTunes account.?
Does this seem a bit of a half hearted effort or am i missing something?
Thanks guys.
Sixx
I can and have pushed updates to my iPhone when I was playing with that and had the phone locked. Could have been a fluke but still should have never happened. I have also flashed ios firmwares that were no longer signed without SHSH blobs including betas without being a dev.
IMHO, lock your phone and see what it does. I do not use those apps because the iPhone one was wasted on me and if my phone is not in my hands or pocket we probably have larger issues.
You may need to log in with your PSN ID to unlock the device. This would be similar to using an Apple ID to unlock the device.
My Xperia Utility
Hi there,
Thanks for the reply , I tried it out by registering and locking my handle remotely , and as I guessed reflashing with a stock ROM wiped any trace of it and I was unable to trace it.
I'm assuming it's this way as the handset does not need to talk to an authentication server like the iPhone's do prior to activation.
Was interesting to do though.... Bored now.
Sixx
Yeah, My Xperia and similar solutions are useful, but if a determined and/or technically clued up person steals your device then you almost certainly aren't going to be able to retrieve it that way. They're more of a deterrent to the opportunistic thief than anything.
I have Cerberus and have it set to email me images via the front camera on incorrect unlock attempts. My phone also automatically switches over to a secure lockscreen when away from my home wifi. The power menu also don't display in the lockscreen, so makes it difficult for someone not in the know to power off my phone.
If my phone goes missing for more than an hour and I receive any notification of incorrect unlock attempts, then it's being wiped remotely and a message to call my other line is displayed to return the device. If that fails, then a phone call to my provider to get the phone totally blocked is the next step.
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Okay - I searched and have yet to find an answer - if this is a repeat I have missed, I apologize. Here goes.
On my T-Mo N4 5.0.1, I would like to encrypt the device but do not want to be tethered to a password (long story). The PIN mode for screen unlock is what I desire. Without rooting and running a custom ROM, is there anyway to modify the security policy to allow the PIN mode to be used with an encrypted device?
I tried encrypting it after reading somewhere else you can change to PIN once it is done (requires password or fingerprint for initial setup). The understanding was that you would have to input a password on bootup but after that screen unlocks could be done via the PIN. This was not the case and would not let me change after encryption. Decrypted, I have my options back. This is the security policy at play.
I am sure its somehow possible. My Nexus 9 tablet is encrypted (had no choice in the matter - how it came from factory) and allows any unlock method you want, so long as one is used.
Thoughts? Thanks in advance!
Just an update in case it helps anyone understand this better - still could use some help!
Had to do a factory reset on my Nexus 9 tablet thanks to a botched OTA update. It is forced encryption and does NOT force you to set any sort of unlock method. While I agree that is lousy security, it makes me really think this is policy based which leads me to believe it can be changed somewhere on the note 4. Thoughts?
Hi,
Is there currently any way to disable the unlock pattern on a SM-N9600?
I have been using the same pattern every since i got this phone, and used the same pattern on the phones before it. I woke up yesterday morning to the phone telling me i need to input the unlock pattern like it does every morning, but it wouldn't accept the pattern that i know is correct. I know all the passwords for the google accounts and samsung account that is on the phone, and my fingerprint is also on it. Is there any way to use any of the above to unlock the phone?
I also tried using find my mobile, but it's saying remote unlock is disabled on the phone. USB debuging is also not enabled on the phone as far as i know.
I contacted Samsung customer service but got no real help, they couldn't even answer how many attempts I have to try the pattern and if numerus failures would eventually wipe the phone.
Any help at all is appreciated.
You should be able to unlock your Samsung device in Find My Mobile, then you can go into the Settings > Security and reset your security preferences.
iceepyon said:
You should be able to unlock your Samsung device in Find My Mobile, then you can go into the Settings > Security and reset your security preferences.
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Thanks for the reply, but Find My Mobile doesn't work. It is able to locate the device, but it says Remote unlocking is disabled.
sahyf3r said:
Thanks for the reply, but Find My Mobile doesn't work. It is able to locate the device, but it says Remote unlocking is disabled.
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What about the Google one?
Best bet in the future is to keep the phone glued to you (not hard to do) and avoid passwords/ lockouts.
More times than not the only people they lock out is you. Hardware failures many times lead to complete lockouts. Hardware failures happen unpredictably... been there, done that
No password, no problems; don't get too clever for your own good.
blackhawk said:
What about the Google one?
Best bet in the future is to keep the phone glued to you (not hard to do) and avoid passwords/ lockouts.
More times than not the only people they lock out is you. Hardware failures many times lead to complete lockouts. Hardware failures happen unpredictably... been there, done that
No password, no problems; don't get too clever for your own good.
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The google one doesn't allow unlock anymore, only lock.
If i was getting clever with the pattern and that caused it, I wouldn't feel so bad, I'd know it's my fault, I'd tell myself i deserved it, but this is basically the only pattern i've use since my first android phone.
It seems my only hope is to pray for some kind of exploit that can bypass that pattern screen.
I had no idea hardware failures like that happened, I have neever heard of it before now.
Thanks though.
sahyf3r said:
The google one doesn't allow unlock anymore, only lock.
If i was getting clever with the pattern and that caused it, I wouldn't feel so bad, I'd know it's my fault, I'd tell myself i deserved it, but this is basically the only pattern i've use since my first android phone.
It seems my only hope is to pray for some kind of exploit that can bypass that pattern screen.
I had no idea hardware failures like that happened, I have neever heard of it before now.
Thanks though.
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Yeah it never accord to me either until a laptop bios got corrupted and completely locked the machine down permanently. Fun times.
This is another reason why I always have/use an SD card as a data drive on phones.
Unlike the laptop you can't easily access the internal memory of a locked phone.
Hello,
TL;DR: I cannot unlock my Huawei P10 device, PIN code was not changed by me, but the device does not recognize it. Need to remove PIN or push forward without resetting.
Long version: I was driving with my device connected through Android Auto, Spotify was playing and I was tracking an order through Uber Eats that should arrive a bit after I got home.
After parking the vehicle, the music died, and so did the phone. After taking the cable out and trying to restart the device, it came back up.
However, even though it accepts the SIM card PIN, it does not accept the Screen unlock PIN (which is actually the same). After rebooting, it still does not accept the PIN and I'm not waiting for 1h before I can try a new code.
In order to insert the SIM PIN, I have to press OK, but the screen PIN does not, I just add the PIN and it unlocks.
Can anyone make heads or tails out of this situation and help me recover access to the smartphone without doing a factory reset and losing all the unsaved data?
Jimmy_Jams said:
Hello,
TL;DR: I cannot unlock my Huawei P10 device, PIN code was not changed by me, but the device does not recognize it. Need to remove PIN or push forward without resetting.
Long version: I was driving with my device connected through Android Auto, Spotify was playing and I was tracking an order through Uber Eats that should arrive a bit after I got home.
After parking the vehicle, the music died, and so did the phone. After taking the cable out and trying to restart the device, it came back up.
However, even though it accepts the SIM card PIN, it does not accept the Screen unlock PIN (which is actually the same). After rebooting, it still does not accept the PIN and I'm not waiting for 1h before I can try a new code.
In order to insert the SIM PIN, I have to press OK, but the screen PIN does not, I just add the PIN and it unlocks.
Can anyone make heads or tails out of this situation and help me recover access to the smartphone without doing a factory reset and losing all the unsaved data?
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Give your girlfriend her phone back if you feel insecure about your relationship it's better to talk to her about it, if you can't do that then it's best to just leave
Also if that is your phone and not your girlfriend's then you might be giving it a hard reset unless you have developer options open with enabled USB debugging and a computer nearby
Bricked_it_noobsta said:
Give your girlfriend her phone back if you feel insecure about your relationship it's better to talk to her about it, if you can't do that then it's best to just leave
Also if that is your phone and not your girlfriend's then you might be giving it a hard reset unless you have developer options open with enabled USB debugging and a computer nearby
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It's not my wife's phone, it's mine Plus, if I wanted to do such a thing, I just need to use finger unlock
I do have developer options open, not sure about the USB debugging, but it might not be because I've been trying with ADB and whatever commands I could find, but so far no success....
Jimmy_Jams said:
It's not my wife's phone, it's mine Plus, if I wanted to do such a thing, I just need to use finger unlock
I do have developer options open, not sure about the USB debugging, but it might not be because I've been trying with ADB and whatever commands I could find, but so far no success....
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I use to sell drugs to a guy who named himself jimmy_jams on telegram. Your not Australian are you
No, I'm not.
Also, is there no solution to this problem? Do I really need to do a factory reset?