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Hey everyone, I know were all excited about this phone and lots of us are talking about waiting it out until it gets here. Anyone have any hints as to when they'll be releasing it to us. I know the Z Ultra has been in Asia for a long time and only now are they releasing it to Canada. I'd really like to get my hands on this phone. Btw did an order with Clove and got a (Backorder) status. So I canceled, you might not want to order.
Did you check Negri?
Mi|enko said:
Did you check Negri?
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Negri only has the 6903 model which I believe wont work on Canadian/US LTE. We need the 6906 model for North America.
uly609 said:
Negri only has the 6903 model which I believe wont work on Canadian/US LTE. We need the 6906 model for North America.
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6903 lte works on tmobile by looking at the frequency
the 6906 carries the 700 mhz carried by att for lte.
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6903 lte works on tmobile by looking at the frequency
the 6906 carries the 700 mhz carried by att for lte.
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I wish that they would devise a way for a phone to have all frequencies.
GodKingKnight said:
Hey everyone, I know were all excited about this phone and lots of us are talking about waiting it out until it gets here. Anyone have any hints as to when they'll be releasing it to us. I know the Z Ultra has been in Asia for a long time and only now are they releasing it to Canada. I'd really like to get my hands on this phone. Btw did an order with Clove and got a (Backorder) status. So I canceled, you might not want to order.
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I have T-Mobile and I live in the US. I ordered the Unlocked Xperia Z1 because a T-Mobile rep said that it supports the bands for T-Mobile 2G, 3G, 4G (HSPA+ & LTE).
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/09/25/xperia-z1-to-hit-canada-in-october-through-multiple-carriers/
YESSSSS!!!!!!
I have the 6903 and the 1700 AWS LTE band does work in Canada (Bell) I am having a little trouble with the HSPA though i think it's bell's side since my 6603 work with HSPA and has the exact same bands as the 6903.
I'm still waiting for the 6906
http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/10/02/b...tra-launching-october-15th-heres-the-pricing/
We’ve received word on the launch date and no-term pricing. Both the Xperia Z1 and Xperia Z Ultra will be arriving in Canada on October 15th. The no-contract price points will be $699.95 for the Xperia Z1 and $799.95 for the Xperia Z Ultra.
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2 weeks to go, hopefully the Sony store has them in for the 15th as well.
verizon and sprint?
Any idea if Verizon or sprint will have this phone? And when?
Ambkor said:
Any idea if Verizon or sprint will have this phone? And when?
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Pretty much not going to happen. When it comes to the US should be sold as an unlocked model from Sony stores. If it does come to a carrier should be T-Mobile
Will the Xperia Z1 that's hitting Canadian shelves be the C6906 model? I'm guessing not since none of the aforementioned providers use the 700 mhz band, which is what I need as a sad AT&T customer that wants the Z1 pretty badly
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Will the Xperia Z1 that's hitting Canadian shelves be the C6906 model? I'm guessing not since none of the aforementioned providers use the 700 mhz band, which is what I need as a sad AT&T customer that wants the Z1 pretty badly
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If Sony is smart it would be the C9606 model, because the Canadian 700mhz auction is just around the corner. This would future proof the phone somewhat for Canadians and let those that roam across the border benefit right away.
What I want to know is - beyond LTE bands - what are the hardware differences between the C6903 and C6906? Why does the C6903 show support for H265* in the whitepaper while the C6906 does not? Is this just a codec out-of-box thing or is the hardware decoder different? I can't imagine so because that's probably on the SoC itself in the GPU.
Anyone know?
Soldier Blue said:
If Sony is smart it would be the C9606 model, because the Canadian 700mhz auction is just around the corner. This would future proof the phone somewhat for Canadians and let those that roam across the border benefit right away.
What I want to know is - beyond LTE bands - what are the hardware differences between the C6903 and C6906? Why does the C6903 show support for H265* in the whitepaper while the C6906 does not? Is this just a codec out-of-box thing or is the hardware decoder different? I can't imagine so because that's probably on the SoC itself in the GPU.
Anyone know?
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Actually, I just did some research and it appears as if the Canadian carriers do in fact use 700 mHz bands (at least Bell and Telus do, I can't find any concrete and viable information about Rogers), my apologies. It would appear as if Wikipedia isn't always a viable source.
If this is the case - then I'll be buying a Z1 and getting it imported into the US. This is very exciting!
Yeah it appears that if you check the white papers on sonymobile.com/ca-en/products/phones/xperia-z1/specifications/ Canada will be getting the c6906 version, which seems likely for a oct 15 release from news on the web. Now the problem is just getting a unlocked version shipped to the US.
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Actually, I just did some research and it appears as if the Canadian carriers do in fact use 700 mHz bands (at least Bell and Telus do, I can't find any concrete and viable information about Rogers), my apologies. It would appear as if Wikipedia isn't always a viable source.
If this is the case - then I'll be buying a Z1 and getting it imported into the US. This is very exciting!
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I don't know where you did your research, but no one has 700mhz spectrum allocation for mobile in Canada. The auction to sell licenses hasn't happened yet.
I was quite surprised to learn that the Tab S series of tablets ships with the aging Snapdragon 800. I find it's a bit out of place on a tablet where all other specs are top notch. The reviews I read specifically say the tabet can be sluggish at times when more CPU power is required.
I guess I hold out on my upgrade a bit longer then...
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I was quite surprised to learn that the Tab S series of tablets ships with the aging Snapdragon 800. I find it's a bit out of place on a tablet where all other specs are top notch. The reviews I read specifically say the tabet can be sluggish at times when more CPU power is required.
I guess I hold out on my upgrade a bit longer then...
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Only the LTE versions come with the Snapdragon 800. Wi-fi gets the Exynos 5420.
how is the 5420 ?
I'm kind of disappointed the UK versions have the 5420 - I find my Snapdragon 800 in my Note 3 phone super quick
is the 5420 just as snappy ? Looks such a good screen on the 8.4 and 10.5 Tab S
Buckster76 said:
how is the 5420 ?
I'm kind of disappointed the UK versions have the 5420 - I find my Snapdragon 800 in my Note 3 phone super quick
is the 5420 just as snappy ? Looks such a good screen on the 8.4 and 10.5 Tab S
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Reviewers are saying the 5420 wi-fi versions are noticeably faster than the 800 in the LTE. I believe benchmarks show the same.
The 5420 is amazing. Uses all 8 cores at the same time if needed now. They fixed the memory dump issue found in the previous iteration as well.
The only thing I'm bummed about, is the 5433 ( coming out soon)destroys Snapdragon's 805 SoC .... In benchmarks. I wish that processor was in the new Samsung flagship device. Ugh.
According to all the reviews I have read the opposite is true and they are recommending the processor in
the LTE version as the faster of the two.
I have to run to work but quick google search..Engadget ( which I hate) has this to say..
"If it's any consolation, the as-yet-unreleased LTE models are supposed to use a Snapdragon 800 chip instead of the Exynos 5, so maybe performance will be snappier there."
Snapdragon seems to get the most development too.
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According to all the reviews I have read the opposite is true and they are recommending the processor in
the LTE version as the faster of the two.
I have to run to work but quick google search..Engadget ( which I hate) has this to say..
"If it's any consolation, the as-yet-unreleased LTE models are supposed to use a Snapdragon 800 chip instead of the Exynos 5, so maybe performance will be snappier there."
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Anandtech clearly said Samsung made a poor choice with Exynos. They should have gone 801 or 805.
oh well - and 16gb too for UK version - grrrr
still prob going to get one though
maybe it will handle streaming video better than the Snapdragon (well the implementation of it on the Note 3) - after lots of updates, I still can't get smooth streamed video on my Note 3 - youtube, netflix, Sky, Iplayer etc - yet download to phone first (latter 2) - or play local content and smooth as silk
There probably won't be a 32gb version. Samsung said there'd be a 32gb 8.4 pro and there never was.
I can confirm there are LTE versions with Exynos processor, at least mine is so, bought in Spain (10.5"). I could change it for a snapdragon version though, but I'm not sure if it is worth it.
arbiskar said:
I can confirm there are LTE versions with Exynos processor, at least mine is so, bought in Spain (10.5"). I could change it for a snapdragon version though, but I'm not sure if it is worth it.
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Thanks for your confirmation arbiskar.
It was rumoured the Tab S would be 5420 for WiFi, and 5420 + Intel LTE Modem for LTE models, that seems to coincide with the reports such as yours, that the LTE models is Exynos based only.
I doubt that Snapdragon based LTE models of the Tab S exist, if the LTE model you purchased is 5420, I'm going to assume they all will be...
Model numbers other than the T700, T705, T800 and T805 would need to exist for Snapdragon variants, so I don't believe we will see Qualcomm chips in any of the Tab S models.
Thanks.
Hi,
I ordered a LTE Tab S, in germany it will release on friday the 11 July. Before I ordered I thought all versions will have the Exynos 5 Octa and perhaps an optional LTE Modem. After my order I saw that the LTE version will be a QSD 800
Now you say thete will be LTE and Octa. Is it real? Do you know what version Samsung will sell in germay? I think I have to wait a few weeks before I get my tab S because I bought it with a LTE Contract and the Provider cant give me an info when they get the hardware from Samsung.
Now I don`t know if I should cancel the order and buy me a wifi version because the octa is better or will the QSD 800 ok too?
Svendrae said:
Hi,
I ordered a LTE Tab S, in germany it will release on friday the 11 July. Before I ordered I thought all versions will have the Exynos 5 Octa and perhaps an optional LTE Modem. After my order I saw that the LTE version will be a QSD 800
Now you say thete will be LTE and Octa. Is it real? Do you know what version Samsung will sell in germay? I think I have to wait a few weeks before I get my tab S because I bought it with a LTE Contract and the Provider cant give me an info when they get the hardware from Samsung.
Now I don`t know if I should cancel the order and buy me a wifi version because the octa is better or will the QSD 800 ok too?
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The sd800 is slightly better than the octacore, so I wouldn't worry.
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is it confirmed the LTE version in US is also Exynos processor instead of snapdragon 800? Thanks
rankman2004 said:
is it confirmed the LTE version in US is also Exynos processor instead of snapdragon 800? Thanks
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No. Lte is Snapdragon only. Samsung only announced today a new exynos processor with Lte for future products.
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simacca said:
No. Lte is Snapdragon only. Samsung only announced today a new exynos processor with Lte for future products.
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Apparently, some people here have the LTE version with Exynos, so I'm not so sure.
They announced a new Exynos processor with LTE integrated for future products, but that doesn't mean there isn't a LTE chip in addition to the Exynos SOC in the Tab S LTE versions.
It would be nice if someone could confirm.
I'm also waiting to see if there will be a 32GB.. and which version to get
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Apparently, some people here have the LTE version with Exynos, so I'm not so sure.
They announced a new Exynos processor with LTE integrated for future products, but that doesn't mean there isn't a LTE chip in addition to the Exynos SOC in the Tab S LTE versions.
It would be nice if someone could confirm.
I'm also waiting to see if there will be a 32GB.. and which version to get
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Would like to see some proof of that. Check out link below.
http://www.gsmarena.com/exynos_modap_is_first_samsung_chipset_with_integrated_lte-news-9006.php
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Apparently, some people here have the LTE version with Exynos, so I'm not so sure.
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Someone from Spain said s/he has an Exynos/LTE device. The Spain Samsung site also has the LTE version listed as Exynos.
The announcement yesterday was for a quad-core chip with integrated LTE, not the 5433 next-gen big.LITTLE chip everyone was expecting. Without knowing the GPU of the chip announced yesterday it's hard to say where in the fold it fits (high-end, low-end). There's nothing that's ever prevented Samsung from using Exynos with a stand-alone modem it's just that S-800 with its integrated modem is cheaper. Maybe that's what they're doing in Spain. That or it's a typo and the aforementioned owner "thinks" s/he has Exynos LTE. Everything I've read indicates the S' are using the same S-800/5420 architecture of all Samsung's previously released high-end tablets. So I'm going with typo until someone posts a CPU-Z (available in Play) read out which will say specifically what chip a device is using.
We know there are S-800 SM-T805's because reviewers have tested them. It would be extremely odd that Samsung would give the same model number (Spain's SM-T805 also) to two devices with totally different architectures. They never have before. At a minimum they'd append a letter to it (EG: the N10.1-14 LTE with 700MHz bands sold in Latin America is the "P-SM605M."
As for S-800 being long in tooth, it's not really. The CPU is more than adequate for the workload. Here's a slide from Qualcomm saying 85% of apps don't use two cores better yet four. And the majority of apps never leave the A7 core on 5420.
The challenge is the enormous amount of pixels being pushed on large QHD tablet displays. S-801 uses Adreno 330 just like S-800 so until some SoC with a more powerful GPU is released (released = shipped in a production product) Adreno/Mali is the best we've got and the differences between them performance wise aren't that significant (Mali's about 10% weaker than Adreno when maxed out).
New member here.
Received today my Tab S 8.4 LTE (SM-T705) sold here in Finland. And it is indeed an Exynos 5420.
I don't have a Micro-SIM card for it yet, but it certainly is the LTE version. Does someone know how to check the LTE chip version?
Took captures with CPU Z, but I can't apparently post outside links yet. See them here: pentsin.portaali.org/samsung/ along a photo of the box also claiming 1.9GHz Quad-Core + 1.3GHz Quad-Core.
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Someone from Spain said s/he has an Exynos/LTE device. The Spain Samsung site also has the LTE version listed as Exynos.
The announcement yesterday was for a quad-core chip with integrated LTE, not the 5433 next-gen big.LITTLE chip everyone was expecting. Without knowing the GPU of the chip announced yesterday it's hard to say where in the fold it fits (high-end, low-end). There's nothing that's ever prevented Samsung from using Exynos with a stand-alone modem it's just that S-800 with its integrated modem is cheaper. Maybe that's what they're doing in Spain. That or it's a typo and the aforementioned owner "thinks" s/he has Exynos LTE. Everything I've read indicates the S' are using the same S-800/5420 architecture of all Samsung's previously released high-end tablets. So I'm going with typo until someone posts a CPU-Z (available in Play) read out which will say specifically what chip a device is using.
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After being disappointed with a locked bootloader on my AT&T Note 3, I decided to not make the same mistake again. With Android L coming out with 64bit CPU support and with 20nm die size it looks Exynos is the winner. Yes, Snapdragon was more popular before, but I'm pretty sure 64bit will be the hot topic with Note 4 development.
So what you came here to see. I found this wiki page detailing all the bands and processor information for different devices:
http://ko.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/삼성_갤럭시_노트_4
It shows bands 4 and 17 (among others). Now, that wasn't enough proof for me so I started searching some more and got the FCC data for N910C.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=544347&fcc_id=A3LSMN910C
You can check out LTE Test Reports 1 and 2. It shows LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17 on the first report. The second is just more technical data.
I didn't see anything about band 12. Sorry T-Mobile users.
If anybody finds any information about purchasing one, please share.
Many state the 910F is the most versatile worldwide (for LTE, etc.), but the 910C may also be on my radar if this is the case.
Just remember that the SD805 will be getting the most attention in terms of development since most owners out there will be having a Snapdragon device.
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Many state the 910F is the most versatile worldwide (for LTE, etc.)
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According to the wiki page the F and C both support the same exact bands. The difference is the F is Qualcomm based technologies.
LTE on Exynos for AT&T in the US has been a sticking point for me, I will be following this thread with great interest, thanks.
Why don't just go for N910U ?
I haven't came across much info regarding the C model. However, if the C model is released in Europe that would be a plus for me. Besides Wiki and FCC, are there any official sources for the C-variant containing Exynos?
Also seems like the FCC weren't testing the official device at the time as the tests were conducting in early Summer. Um....
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According to the wiki page the F and C both support the same exact bands. The difference is the F is Qualcomm based technologies.
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Lodix said:
Why don't just go for N910U ?
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No support for band 17 (700mhz).
arjun90 said:
I haven't came across much info regarding the C model. However, if the C model is released in Europe that would be a plus for me. Besides Wiki and FCC, are there any official sources for the C-variant containing Exynos?
Also seems like the FCC weren't testing the official device at the time as the tests were conducting in early Summer. Um....
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It's prety well-known by benchmarking sites but
http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/SM-N910CZIEXTE lists the CPU as Octo-core and has the Exynos clock speeds.
FCC test is fine. Samsung has an attestment saying it's the N910C. They can't just change the model. Hardware gets finalized earlier, and then the software is built around it.
You mention the Exynos for 64bit support later. But has it not already been confirmed the soc has 64bit disabled? It would not be able to run it? Source: anandtech.
Correct me if i'm wrong!
The FCC states tests were conducted on a pre-production unit with the 910C being the Base Model. I really do hope the 910C is an international LTE Unlocked Variant similar to the 910F; otherwise, the 910F would have to do.
The 910C contains the latest Wolfson DAC.
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No support for band 4 (700mhz).
It's prety well-known by benchmarking sites but
http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/SM-N910CZIEXTE lists the CPU as Octo-core and has the Exynos clock speeds.
FCC test is fine. Samsung has an attestment saying it's the N910C. They can't just change the model. Hardware gets finalized earlier, and then the software is built around it.
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You're right; Samsung intended the latest Exynos model to be half-baked with no support for the 64-bit architecture. The same applies to Dell's Venue 8 Pro Windows tablet, which contains a 64-bit CPU, but OS is strictly 32-bit. Petition anyone?
Hendrickson said:
You mention the Exynos for 64bit support later. But has it not already been confirmed the soc has 64bit disabled? It would not be able to run it? Source: anandtech.
Correct me if i'm wrong!
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No support for band 4 (700mhz).
It's prety well-known by benchmarking sites but
samsung.com/my/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/SM-N910CZIEXTE"]samsung.com/my/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/SM-N910CZIEXTE lists the CPU as Octo-core and has the Exynos clock speeds.
FCC test is fine. Samsung has an attestment saying it's the N910C. They can't just change the model. Hardware gets finalized earlier, and then the software is built around it.
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But I found this that says SM-N910U does support band 4. fccid.net/document.php?id=2381341#axzz3G8lJ0461 I'm so confused.
CLShortFuse said:
No support for band 4 (700mhz).
It's prety well-known by benchmarking sites but
http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/SM-N910CZIEXTE lists the CPU as Octo-core and has the Exynos clock speeds.
FCC test is fine. Samsung has an attestment saying it's the N910C. They can't just change the model. Hardware gets finalized earlier, and then the software is built around it.
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It supports band 700.
Hendrickson said:
You mention the Exynos for 64bit support later. But has it not already been confirmed the soc has 64bit disabled? It would not be able to run it? Source: anandtech.
Correct me if i'm wrong!
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It's not disabled. The problem is native 64bit instructions (drivers) weren't written for it. It makes sense considering that Samsung would have to write a 64bit layer for Android. That's a whole lot of work. Google is already writing one for Android L, so if ever in the future, Samsung creates the 64 bit drivers for any device running the same chip, somebody can cook up a new kernel with it.
Right now, it's running in some downgraded 32bit layer. The "if" Anandtech is talking about is Samsung doesn't ever have to write those 64bit drivers. I'm willing to take that chance instead of the 0% possibility Snapdragon brings.
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But I found this that says SM-N910U does support band 4. fccid.net/document.php?id=2381341#axzz3G8lJ0461 I'm so confused.
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It supports band 700.
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Sorry. I mixed up the numbers. U/F/C/G support band 4 (1700mhz). Only the F/C support band 17 (700mhz). C runs Exynos while F runs Snapdragon.
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It's not disabled. The problem is native 64bit instructions (drivers) weren't written for it. It makes sense considering that Samsung would have to write a 64bit layer for Android. That's a whole lot of work. Google is already writing one for Android L, so if ever in the future, Samsung creates the 64 bit drivers for any device running the same chip, somebody can cook up a new kernel with it.
Right now, it's running in some downgraded 32bit layer. The "if" Anandtech is talking about is Samsung doesn't ever have to write those 64bit drivers. I'm willing to take that chance instead of the 0% possibility Snapdragon brings.
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well you are right and plus you are still getting a 20%ish faster processor even if it stays as 32bit. even snapdragon 810 will be same chipset with probably better gpu and and higher clock speed and 64 bit enabled for sure.
only problem is does it realy support at&t lte? yes it connects for sure (some reviewers using it in youtube) but it is maybe struggling with battery cuz it doesnt fully support us lte standarts. other people reported good battery life on exynos but some reviewers in us said battery isnt good.
so you just need to be sure about it otherwise exynos seems realy better except custom rom support but as far as i can see touchwiz is running best of its time and realy good in general usage and as a note owner i assume no1 will want cm on it. root and xposed will be more than enough. atleast its my opinion.
Samsung Malaysia will release the SM-910C model this 17th Oct....initially I was going to wait for the 910F variant from europe or middle east..due to lte bands i needed most. Thanks to this thread I can now go home and do some shopping...thanks
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Sorry. I mixed up the numbers. U/F/C/G support band 4 (1700mhz). Only the F/C support band 17 (700mhz). C runs Exynos while F runs Snapdragon.
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It says it supports band 700 but in B28, I guess it is not the same.
tmac31 said:
well you are right and plus you are still getting a 20%ish faster processor even if it stays as 32bit. even snapdragon 810 will be same chipset with probably better gpu and and higher clock speed and 64 bit enabled for sure.
only problem is does it realy support at&t lte? yes it connects for sure (some reviewers using it in youtube) but it is maybe struggling with battery cuz it doesnt fully support us lte standarts. other people reported good battery life on exynos but some reviewers in us said battery isnt good.
so you just need to be sure about it otherwise exynos seems realy better except custom rom support but as far as i can see touchwiz is running best of its time and realy good in general usage and as a note owner i assume no1 will want cm on it. root and xposed will be more than enough. atleast its my opinion.
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All of the benchmarks say the Exynos has better battery, but I will admit a lot of tests are inconsistent. As for support, I've had this dumb, locked Note 3 for too long and I can accept less custom ROMs. I honestly think people would be excited to make custom 64bit ROM and I'm hoping on it.
As for the AT&T bands, I'm going to trust the FCC data and that ridiculously detailed Korean wiki site.
In fact, I just bought one on eBay for $899. It ships from Malaysia so I'll get it in a few weeks. I'll keep you guys updated when I do.
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All of the benchmarks say the Exynos has better battery, but I will admit a lot of tests are inconsistent. As for support, I've had this dumb, locked Note 3 for too long and I can accept less custom ROMs. I honestly think people would be excited to make custom 64bit ROM and I'm hoping on it.
As for the AT&T bands, I'm going to trust the FCC data and that ridiculously detailed Korean wiki site.
In fact, I just bought one on eBay for $899. It ships from Malaysia so I'll get it in a few weeks. I'll keep you guys updated when I do.
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And don't forget, general message to all: Andrei has a campaign (below) to get him a -C Exynos to develop Perseus. If Perseus has worked as well for you as it has for me in the past, please consider donating, and we'll get Perseus going for Note 4 Exynos as well.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/note-4-exynos-development-device/x/8868000
Don't all the Exynos ones have the Wolfson DAC?
Sure your right the 20nm CPU should be easier on the batter and the Wolfson DAC is slightly better I think. I'm looking at an SM-910U from Hong Kong.
arjun90 said:
Many state the 910F is the most versatile worldwide (for LTE, etc.), but the 910C may also be on my radar if this is the case.
Just remember that the SD805 will be getting the most attention in terms of development since most owners out there will be having a Snapdragon device.
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Custom ROMs are just repackaged stock ROMS nowadays with minor changes here and there, anything you really want to do to it from a modification standpoint can be done with Xposed. Kernel development is where it is at, and frankly, there isn't a single kernel in Snapdragon land that comes close to touching Perseus for Exynos.
I'm getting mixed answers on this depending on who I ask and I couldn't find anything on XDA specific to the Z3C (and even more specifically, the D5803) so: Does the Z3C support carrier aggregation? If it does, on what band combinations? If not, has anyone tried enabling it? The hardware should be more than capable for bonding up to two 10x10 links (which is what AT&T needs in the US).
I realize CA is not listed on Sony's webpage, but I had a chat session with a Sony sales rep and was told that it "should" support CA - not very helpful.
Thanks for any clarification everyone!
Chip is only snapdragon 801, you'll need at least 805, before it's Cat6 or CA. Search for the z3c on gsmarena.com and you'll see. You probably had bad luck with Sony support. Maybe next year devices z4 will have it they actually should, if they need to follow the rest.
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Chip is only snapdragon 801, you'll need at least 805, before it's Cat6 or CA. Search for the z3c on gsmarena.com and you'll see. You probably had bad luck with Sony support. Maybe next year devices z4 will have it they actually should, if they need to follow the rest.
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Do you know this from experience with the phone itself or are you basing it off of perceived specs of the S801 SoC? According to Qualcomm's site, the S801 support dual 10Mhz carrier aggregation, and we also know that the S801 toting LG G3 fully supports this. From Qualcomm's site:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/801
"CAT4 speeds of up to 150 Mbps with support for up to 2x10 MHz carrier aggregation"
So the only real question then is - is this support enabled in the Z3 Compact D5803 or is it not? I'm hoping someone on AT&T in Chicago, San Francisco, New York, or Dallas can test this out and report back. Given AT&T's diverse spectrum, performance on its network is greatly improved by utilizing CA since they do not have any single blocks of spectrum larger than 10x10.
Thanks to anyone who can help!
Does anyone know which bands the international version of this phone supports?
Thanks!
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Nobody knows, waiting on the same thing, right now some stores in china are selling a "international version" of the phone but is the same phone just with CM12.1 and only have the LTE bands supported in china, not the ones we use in USA, so unless they release a US specific version LTE will not work on the US.
I tired to contact ZUK sales to confirm the bands, but no reply from them.
zuk.hk only shows chinese bands, but I can't believe they would release a phone to international markets without proper bands. That would be like shooting their own legs.
The chinese version would work for me though, only "semi-needed" band would be 4G band 20 (800MHz), which is quite new in Finland and used mainly outside bigger cities. Price of Z1 though is a killer, even though it is not as high spec'd as OnePlus Two, it is still an upgrade for OPO with cheaper price tag...
The only spec that the OnePlus 2 has higher than the Z1 is the CPU, but I prefer a SD 801 way more than a SD810 and his heating problems
IvanTSI said:
The only spec that the OnePlus 2 has higher than the Z1 is the CPU, but I prefer a SD 801 way more than a SD810 and his heating problems
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What I've heard is that SD810 doesn't heat so much with the OnePlus 2, but maybe that's because it's underclocked (or that's what I've heard).
Other than that, they are quite similar. OnePlus 2 has 1GB more ram in the 64GB version though, but who needs 4gigs in a phone, really.... =)
But for me, ZUK Z1 seems like a good choice with bigger battery, USB-C 3.0 and cyanogen os out of the box. If I would buy these phones now, it would be (in euros):
OnePlus 2: ~425eur (incl. shipment) ~476USD
ZUK Z1: ~293eur (incl. shipment) ~328USD
hmm, not a hard choice
These are the bands:
TDD-LTE （bands: 38 39 40 41）
FDD-LTE (bands: 1 3 7)
TD- SCDMA (bands: 34 39)
WCDMA (850 900 1900 2100 MHz)
CDMA2000 (800MHz)
GSN/EDGE(850 900 1800 1900 MHz)
CDMA (800MHz)
There are quite a few reviews out now from people in the states. I saw one from zdnet this morning. And another from android headlines. It looks like they tried testing the device on T-Mobile and att and lte was not supported. From what I gather they got early release test devices that were in fact the international variant. So it looks like no lte for the states which is a major deal breaker. Otherwise this would have been the perfect phone for me.
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There are quite a few reviews out now from people in the states. I saw one from zdnet this morning. And another from android headlines. It looks like they tried testing the device on T-Mobile and att and lte was not supported. From what I gather they got early release test devices that were in fact the international variant. So it looks like no lte for the states which is a major deal breaker. Otherwise this would have been the perfect phone for me.
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My only hope is that they are testing the Chinese version with the International software..
There is no point in selling the international version to the US if it misses lte bands altogether..
I also hope that the new Zuk coming in January with the new Snapdragon will support all bands...
Is it me or all these international /Chinese brands always build the almost perfect phone? They get so close and mess up on the important stuff...
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rubi76 said:
My only hope is that they are testing the Chinese version with the International software..
There is no point in selling the international version to the US if it misses lte bands altogether..
I also hope that the new Zuk coming in January with the nee Snapdragon will support all bands...
Is it me or all these international /Chinese brands always build the almost perfect phone? They get so close and mess up on the important stuff...
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I was thinking the same thing. However I don't think missing the mark is just limited to the Chinese for example. The blu xl that just got released would have been absolutely perfect had it not been for it being 6 inches and bigger than the nexus 6! It is everything the new moto x pure is plus a finger print sensor for 349 US. Why in the hell they would stick with the sweet spot that everyone else is going with between 5.2 and 5.7 inches in beyond me. But yes lots of companies so close to the perfect phone this year. I can live without NFC even though I would really like to use Android pay. But no lte in the US is an absolute deal breaker.
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I was thinking the same thing. However I don't think missing the mark is just limited to the Chinese for example. The blu xl that just got released would have been absolutely perfect had it not been for it being 6 inches and bigger than the nexus 6! It is everything the new moto x pure is plus a finger print sensor for 349 US. Why in the hell they would stick with the sweet spot that everyone else is going with between 5.2 and 5.7 inches in beyond me. But yes lots of companies so close to the perfect phone this year. I can live without NFC even though I would really like to use Android pay. But no lte in the US is an absolute deal breaker.
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Agreed.
Another example of a smaller brand getting almost everything right with the blu xl.
Blu has tons of phones and for their international debut they bring out this size "monster"..
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rubi76 said:
My only hope is that they are testing the Chinese version with the International software..
There is no point in selling the international version to the US if it misses lte bands altogether..
I also hope that the new Zuk coming in January with the new Snapdragon will support all bands...
Is it me or all these international /Chinese brands always build the almost perfect phone? They get so close and mess up on the important stuff...
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Most likely they did test Chinese version with CM12.1 installed (not Cyanogen OS). There's bunch of sellers on Aliexpress that provide this phone with CM12.1 or similar ROM inside and Google Play also.
Still no confirmed information from Lenovo, ZUK or whatever, which brands are included in the "international" model. I agree that Chinese bands are a huge showstopper for US, but mainly OK for EU. Some bands missing, but nothing huge.
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Most likely they did test Chinese version with CM12.1 installed (not Cyanogen OS). There's bunch of sellers on Aliexpress that provide this phone with CM12.1 or similar ROM inside and Google Play also.
Still no confirmed information from Lenovo, ZUK or whatever, which brands are included in the "international" model. I agree that Chinese bands are a huge showstopper for US, but mainly OK for EU. Some bands missing, but nothing huge.
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Well I've contacted not less than 5 of the top sellers and none of them have it in stock!
Do you know anyone who has it!?
Life Engineer said:
Well I've contacted not less than 5 of the top sellers and none of them have it in stock!
Do you know anyone who has it!?
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http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orig....Mo26A5&ws_ab_test=201407_3,201444_6,201409_1
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http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orig....Mo26A5&ws_ab_test=201407_3,201444_6,201409_1
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Thanks!
Does it have cyanogen or zui?
Does the phone have a notification LED?!
Life Engineer said:
Thanks!
Does it have cyanogen or zui?
Does the phone have a notification LED?!
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I think it has cyanogenmod or the cyanogen os preview. Check the pics its not zui for sure as it has play store.
Dunno about led, should be
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Zuk has multicolor notification led.
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Zuk has multicolor notification led.
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And it's not enabled in zui!?
That's weird!
hello there an android code for the gsm bands lte, thank you