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Hey everyone, I know were all excited about this phone and lots of us are talking about waiting it out until it gets here. Anyone have any hints as to when they'll be releasing it to us. I know the Z Ultra has been in Asia for a long time and only now are they releasing it to Canada. I'd really like to get my hands on this phone. Btw did an order with Clove and got a (Backorder) status. So I canceled, you might not want to order.
Did you check Negri?
Mi|enko said:
Did you check Negri?
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Negri only has the 6903 model which I believe wont work on Canadian/US LTE. We need the 6906 model for North America.
uly609 said:
Negri only has the 6903 model which I believe wont work on Canadian/US LTE. We need the 6906 model for North America.
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6903 lte works on tmobile by looking at the frequency
the 6906 carries the 700 mhz carried by att for lte.
expertzero1 said:
6903 lte works on tmobile by looking at the frequency
the 6906 carries the 700 mhz carried by att for lte.
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I wish that they would devise a way for a phone to have all frequencies.
GodKingKnight said:
Hey everyone, I know were all excited about this phone and lots of us are talking about waiting it out until it gets here. Anyone have any hints as to when they'll be releasing it to us. I know the Z Ultra has been in Asia for a long time and only now are they releasing it to Canada. I'd really like to get my hands on this phone. Btw did an order with Clove and got a (Backorder) status. So I canceled, you might not want to order.
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I have T-Mobile and I live in the US. I ordered the Unlocked Xperia Z1 because a T-Mobile rep said that it supports the bands for T-Mobile 2G, 3G, 4G (HSPA+ & LTE).
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/09/25/xperia-z1-to-hit-canada-in-october-through-multiple-carriers/
YESSSSS!!!!!!
I have the 6903 and the 1700 AWS LTE band does work in Canada (Bell) I am having a little trouble with the HSPA though i think it's bell's side since my 6603 work with HSPA and has the exact same bands as the 6903.
I'm still waiting for the 6906
http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/10/02/b...tra-launching-october-15th-heres-the-pricing/
We’ve received word on the launch date and no-term pricing. Both the Xperia Z1 and Xperia Z Ultra will be arriving in Canada on October 15th. The no-contract price points will be $699.95 for the Xperia Z1 and $799.95 for the Xperia Z Ultra.
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2 weeks to go, hopefully the Sony store has them in for the 15th as well.
verizon and sprint?
Any idea if Verizon or sprint will have this phone? And when?
Ambkor said:
Any idea if Verizon or sprint will have this phone? And when?
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Pretty much not going to happen. When it comes to the US should be sold as an unlocked model from Sony stores. If it does come to a carrier should be T-Mobile
Will the Xperia Z1 that's hitting Canadian shelves be the C6906 model? I'm guessing not since none of the aforementioned providers use the 700 mhz band, which is what I need as a sad AT&T customer that wants the Z1 pretty badly
AhsanU said:
Will the Xperia Z1 that's hitting Canadian shelves be the C6906 model? I'm guessing not since none of the aforementioned providers use the 700 mhz band, which is what I need as a sad AT&T customer that wants the Z1 pretty badly
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If Sony is smart it would be the C9606 model, because the Canadian 700mhz auction is just around the corner. This would future proof the phone somewhat for Canadians and let those that roam across the border benefit right away.
What I want to know is - beyond LTE bands - what are the hardware differences between the C6903 and C6906? Why does the C6903 show support for H265* in the whitepaper while the C6906 does not? Is this just a codec out-of-box thing or is the hardware decoder different? I can't imagine so because that's probably on the SoC itself in the GPU.
Anyone know?
Soldier Blue said:
If Sony is smart it would be the C9606 model, because the Canadian 700mhz auction is just around the corner. This would future proof the phone somewhat for Canadians and let those that roam across the border benefit right away.
What I want to know is - beyond LTE bands - what are the hardware differences between the C6903 and C6906? Why does the C6903 show support for H265* in the whitepaper while the C6906 does not? Is this just a codec out-of-box thing or is the hardware decoder different? I can't imagine so because that's probably on the SoC itself in the GPU.
Anyone know?
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Actually, I just did some research and it appears as if the Canadian carriers do in fact use 700 mHz bands (at least Bell and Telus do, I can't find any concrete and viable information about Rogers), my apologies. It would appear as if Wikipedia isn't always a viable source.
If this is the case - then I'll be buying a Z1 and getting it imported into the US. This is very exciting!
Yeah it appears that if you check the white papers on sonymobile.com/ca-en/products/phones/xperia-z1/specifications/ Canada will be getting the c6906 version, which seems likely for a oct 15 release from news on the web. Now the problem is just getting a unlocked version shipped to the US.
AhsanU said:
Actually, I just did some research and it appears as if the Canadian carriers do in fact use 700 mHz bands (at least Bell and Telus do, I can't find any concrete and viable information about Rogers), my apologies. It would appear as if Wikipedia isn't always a viable source.
If this is the case - then I'll be buying a Z1 and getting it imported into the US. This is very exciting!
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I don't know where you did your research, but no one has 700mhz spectrum allocation for mobile in Canada. The auction to sell licenses hasn't happened yet.
I am somewhat confused with this release of the Xperia Z1.
Why is there a LTE/4G band selection? I can understand previous when they were using separate 4G Radios. This Qualcomm processor on board is supposed to support worldwide LTE bands on chip, so why mixes of models? Sony doing the dodge to sell more phones, and or protecting certain markets?
Good news even though Sony hasn't released it yet, it is the only processor model that has the ability to support 4k video. So I guess it is just a case of wait and see.
A question; Does the Xperia Z support USB 3.0? This would be a huge advantage for syncing media and uploading/downloading to and from the phone.
danw_oz said:
A question; Does the Xperia Z support USB 3.0? This would be a huge advantage for syncing media and uploading/downloading to and from the phone.
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Z1 is a USB 2 phone, so no.
danw_oz said:
I am somewhat confused with this release of the Xperia Z1.
Why is there a LTE/4G band selection? I can understand previous when they were using separate 4G Radios. This Qualcomm processor on board is supposed to support worldwide LTE bands on chip, so why mixes of models? Sony doing the dodge to sell more phones, and or protecting certain markets?
Good news even though Sony hasn't released it yet, it is the only processor model that has the ability to support 4k video. So I guess it is just a case of wait and see.
A question; Does the Xperia Z support USB 3.0? This would be a huge advantage for syncing media and uploading/downloading to and from the phone.
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One model supports hspa only, one supports lte for many many markets... and another model for another market.
Its to save money.
Plus look at LG. They have snapdragon 800 and they limit the bands on the lg g2... Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
expertzero1 said:
One model supports hspa only, one supports lte for many many markets... and another model for another market.
Its to save money.
Plus look at LG. They have snapdragon 800 and they limit the bands on the lg g2... Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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What to make 4 models is saving money when they only needed two, really in all reality only one would actually be required and allow the mobile providers to lock down if they wanted to.
Marketing, stamps for models, slight firmware changes... is not going to save money
danw_oz said:
I am somewhat confused with this release of the Xperia Z1.
Why is there a LTE/4G band selection? I can understand previous when they were using separate 4G Radios. This Qualcomm processor on board is supposed to support worldwide LTE bands on chip, so why mixes of models? Sony doing the dodge to sell more phones, and or protecting certain markets?
Good news even though Sony hasn't released it yet, it is the only processor model that has the ability to support 4k video. So I guess it is just a case of wait and see.
A question; Does the Xperia Z support USB 3.0? This would be a huge advantage for syncing media and uploading/downloading to and from the phone.
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Snap 800 support, but need be implemented.
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danw_oz said:
I am somewhat confused with this release of the Xperia Z1.
Why is there a LTE/4G band selection? I can understand previous when they were using separate 4G Radios. This Qualcomm processor on board is supposed to support worldwide LTE bands on chip, so why mixes of models? Sony doing the dodge to sell more phones, and or protecting certain markets?
Good news even though Sony hasn't released it yet, it is the only processor model that has the ability to support 4k video. So I guess it is just a case of wait and see.
A question; Does the Xperia Z support USB 3.0? This would be a huge advantage for syncing media and uploading/downloading to and from the phone.
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Sony's done something which they've always done! They made a HSPA+ model for markets which don't have LTE and an LTE model for those who do.. The internals are the same pretty much except for the radios... They've done this with the Z, ZU etc also..
After being disappointed with a locked bootloader on my AT&T Note 3, I decided to not make the same mistake again. With Android L coming out with 64bit CPU support and with 20nm die size it looks Exynos is the winner. Yes, Snapdragon was more popular before, but I'm pretty sure 64bit will be the hot topic with Note 4 development.
So what you came here to see. I found this wiki page detailing all the bands and processor information for different devices:
http://ko.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/삼성_갤럭시_노트_4
It shows bands 4 and 17 (among others). Now, that wasn't enough proof for me so I started searching some more and got the FCC data for N910C.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=544347&fcc_id=A3LSMN910C
You can check out LTE Test Reports 1 and 2. It shows LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17 on the first report. The second is just more technical data.
I didn't see anything about band 12. Sorry T-Mobile users.
If anybody finds any information about purchasing one, please share.
Many state the 910F is the most versatile worldwide (for LTE, etc.), but the 910C may also be on my radar if this is the case.
Just remember that the SD805 will be getting the most attention in terms of development since most owners out there will be having a Snapdragon device.
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Many state the 910F is the most versatile worldwide (for LTE, etc.)
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According to the wiki page the F and C both support the same exact bands. The difference is the F is Qualcomm based technologies.
LTE on Exynos for AT&T in the US has been a sticking point for me, I will be following this thread with great interest, thanks.
Why don't just go for N910U ?
I haven't came across much info regarding the C model. However, if the C model is released in Europe that would be a plus for me. Besides Wiki and FCC, are there any official sources for the C-variant containing Exynos?
Also seems like the FCC weren't testing the official device at the time as the tests were conducting in early Summer. Um....
CLShortFuse said:
According to the wiki page the F and C both support the same exact bands. The difference is the F is Qualcomm based technologies.
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Lodix said:
Why don't just go for N910U ?
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No support for band 17 (700mhz).
arjun90 said:
I haven't came across much info regarding the C model. However, if the C model is released in Europe that would be a plus for me. Besides Wiki and FCC, are there any official sources for the C-variant containing Exynos?
Also seems like the FCC weren't testing the official device at the time as the tests were conducting in early Summer. Um....
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It's prety well-known by benchmarking sites but
http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/SM-N910CZIEXTE lists the CPU as Octo-core and has the Exynos clock speeds.
FCC test is fine. Samsung has an attestment saying it's the N910C. They can't just change the model. Hardware gets finalized earlier, and then the software is built around it.
You mention the Exynos for 64bit support later. But has it not already been confirmed the soc has 64bit disabled? It would not be able to run it? Source: anandtech.
Correct me if i'm wrong!
The FCC states tests were conducted on a pre-production unit with the 910C being the Base Model. I really do hope the 910C is an international LTE Unlocked Variant similar to the 910F; otherwise, the 910F would have to do.
The 910C contains the latest Wolfson DAC.
CLShortFuse said:
No support for band 4 (700mhz).
It's prety well-known by benchmarking sites but
http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/SM-N910CZIEXTE lists the CPU as Octo-core and has the Exynos clock speeds.
FCC test is fine. Samsung has an attestment saying it's the N910C. They can't just change the model. Hardware gets finalized earlier, and then the software is built around it.
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You're right; Samsung intended the latest Exynos model to be half-baked with no support for the 64-bit architecture. The same applies to Dell's Venue 8 Pro Windows tablet, which contains a 64-bit CPU, but OS is strictly 32-bit. Petition anyone?
Hendrickson said:
You mention the Exynos for 64bit support later. But has it not already been confirmed the soc has 64bit disabled? It would not be able to run it? Source: anandtech.
Correct me if i'm wrong!
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No support for band 4 (700mhz).
It's prety well-known by benchmarking sites but
samsung.com/my/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/SM-N910CZIEXTE"]samsung.com/my/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/SM-N910CZIEXTE lists the CPU as Octo-core and has the Exynos clock speeds.
FCC test is fine. Samsung has an attestment saying it's the N910C. They can't just change the model. Hardware gets finalized earlier, and then the software is built around it.
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But I found this that says SM-N910U does support band 4. fccid.net/document.php?id=2381341#axzz3G8lJ0461 I'm so confused.
CLShortFuse said:
No support for band 4 (700mhz).
It's prety well-known by benchmarking sites but
http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphone/android-os/SM-N910CZIEXTE lists the CPU as Octo-core and has the Exynos clock speeds.
FCC test is fine. Samsung has an attestment saying it's the N910C. They can't just change the model. Hardware gets finalized earlier, and then the software is built around it.
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It supports band 700.
Hendrickson said:
You mention the Exynos for 64bit support later. But has it not already been confirmed the soc has 64bit disabled? It would not be able to run it? Source: anandtech.
Correct me if i'm wrong!
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It's not disabled. The problem is native 64bit instructions (drivers) weren't written for it. It makes sense considering that Samsung would have to write a 64bit layer for Android. That's a whole lot of work. Google is already writing one for Android L, so if ever in the future, Samsung creates the 64 bit drivers for any device running the same chip, somebody can cook up a new kernel with it.
Right now, it's running in some downgraded 32bit layer. The "if" Anandtech is talking about is Samsung doesn't ever have to write those 64bit drivers. I'm willing to take that chance instead of the 0% possibility Snapdragon brings.
colster1000 said:
But I found this that says SM-N910U does support band 4. fccid.net/document.php?id=2381341#axzz3G8lJ0461 I'm so confused.
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Lodix said:
It supports band 700.
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Sorry. I mixed up the numbers. U/F/C/G support band 4 (1700mhz). Only the F/C support band 17 (700mhz). C runs Exynos while F runs Snapdragon.
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It's not disabled. The problem is native 64bit instructions (drivers) weren't written for it. It makes sense considering that Samsung would have to write a 64bit layer for Android. That's a whole lot of work. Google is already writing one for Android L, so if ever in the future, Samsung creates the 64 bit drivers for any device running the same chip, somebody can cook up a new kernel with it.
Right now, it's running in some downgraded 32bit layer. The "if" Anandtech is talking about is Samsung doesn't ever have to write those 64bit drivers. I'm willing to take that chance instead of the 0% possibility Snapdragon brings.
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well you are right and plus you are still getting a 20%ish faster processor even if it stays as 32bit. even snapdragon 810 will be same chipset with probably better gpu and and higher clock speed and 64 bit enabled for sure.
only problem is does it realy support at&t lte? yes it connects for sure (some reviewers using it in youtube) but it is maybe struggling with battery cuz it doesnt fully support us lte standarts. other people reported good battery life on exynos but some reviewers in us said battery isnt good.
so you just need to be sure about it otherwise exynos seems realy better except custom rom support but as far as i can see touchwiz is running best of its time and realy good in general usage and as a note owner i assume no1 will want cm on it. root and xposed will be more than enough. atleast its my opinion.
Samsung Malaysia will release the SM-910C model this 17th Oct....initially I was going to wait for the 910F variant from europe or middle east..due to lte bands i needed most. Thanks to this thread I can now go home and do some shopping...thanks
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CLShortFuse said:
Sorry. I mixed up the numbers. U/F/C/G support band 4 (1700mhz). Only the F/C support band 17 (700mhz). C runs Exynos while F runs Snapdragon.
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It says it supports band 700 but in B28, I guess it is not the same.
tmac31 said:
well you are right and plus you are still getting a 20%ish faster processor even if it stays as 32bit. even snapdragon 810 will be same chipset with probably better gpu and and higher clock speed and 64 bit enabled for sure.
only problem is does it realy support at&t lte? yes it connects for sure (some reviewers using it in youtube) but it is maybe struggling with battery cuz it doesnt fully support us lte standarts. other people reported good battery life on exynos but some reviewers in us said battery isnt good.
so you just need to be sure about it otherwise exynos seems realy better except custom rom support but as far as i can see touchwiz is running best of its time and realy good in general usage and as a note owner i assume no1 will want cm on it. root and xposed will be more than enough. atleast its my opinion.
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All of the benchmarks say the Exynos has better battery, but I will admit a lot of tests are inconsistent. As for support, I've had this dumb, locked Note 3 for too long and I can accept less custom ROMs. I honestly think people would be excited to make custom 64bit ROM and I'm hoping on it.
As for the AT&T bands, I'm going to trust the FCC data and that ridiculously detailed Korean wiki site.
In fact, I just bought one on eBay for $899. It ships from Malaysia so I'll get it in a few weeks. I'll keep you guys updated when I do.
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All of the benchmarks say the Exynos has better battery, but I will admit a lot of tests are inconsistent. As for support, I've had this dumb, locked Note 3 for too long and I can accept less custom ROMs. I honestly think people would be excited to make custom 64bit ROM and I'm hoping on it.
As for the AT&T bands, I'm going to trust the FCC data and that ridiculously detailed Korean wiki site.
In fact, I just bought one on eBay for $899. It ships from Malaysia so I'll get it in a few weeks. I'll keep you guys updated when I do.
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And don't forget, general message to all: Andrei has a campaign (below) to get him a -C Exynos to develop Perseus. If Perseus has worked as well for you as it has for me in the past, please consider donating, and we'll get Perseus going for Note 4 Exynos as well.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/note-4-exynos-development-device/x/8868000
Don't all the Exynos ones have the Wolfson DAC?
Sure your right the 20nm CPU should be easier on the batter and the Wolfson DAC is slightly better I think. I'm looking at an SM-910U from Hong Kong.
arjun90 said:
Many state the 910F is the most versatile worldwide (for LTE, etc.), but the 910C may also be on my radar if this is the case.
Just remember that the SD805 will be getting the most attention in terms of development since most owners out there will be having a Snapdragon device.
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Custom ROMs are just repackaged stock ROMS nowadays with minor changes here and there, anything you really want to do to it from a modification standpoint can be done with Xposed. Kernel development is where it is at, and frankly, there isn't a single kernel in Snapdragon land that comes close to touching Perseus for Exynos.
Hello guys.
I have read almost all XDA forums (almost really!). I was looking (like thousands of people here and there) for a clear information about:
- Which models of Note5 are supporting which LTE bands
- Which models of Note5 have category 9 LTE and which ones are category 6 LTE.
Because, yes, copy paste all around the web ("cat 9 or cat 6 depending on the market") thanks for this information, but which markets are we talking about?
I am just shocked about how confusing all this is. Amazing. Anyway, personally, I was looking for ideally a dual sim supporting LTE band 20 and if possible cat 9 modem.
One month on intense search, I ended with a single SIM SM-920C. I thought that buying it would make things clearer. Baaaa nothing. I still do not know PRECISELY and OFFICIALLY which LTE bands this model supports. I took it anyway because as an international unlocked model, this is the one that is supposed to be widely compatible.
So, guys, I am not a technical guy. But as now I have it on hands, and as I really spent hours and night browsing the web, I am willing to give you all necessary information about it. I bought it in Morocco where it is officially available. But I am note covered by any LTE band. I know that some codes can tell you on which LTE band you currently are, but not being covered at a precise time by a LTE band does not mean that the device is not compatible with this band.
So I am willing, if that helps, to perform any test to let you know what you would like, if someone interested, as I would have loved finding someone with same questions.
Edit: here is the picture of rear box showing that it is not giving any information on the supported LTE band nor if modem is cat 6 or 9.
Edit 2: Samsung Thailand is mentioning all supported bands but no mention if cat 6 or 9:
http://www.samsung.com/th/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/galaxy-note/SM-N920CZDATHL
4G FDD LTE
B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B26(800)
sambenet said:
Hello guys.
I have read almost all XDA forums (almost really!). I was looking (like thousands of people here and there) for a clear information about:
- Which models of Note5 are supporting which LTE bands
- Which models of Note5 have category 9 LTE and which ones are category 6 LTE.
Because, yes, copy paste all around the web ("cat 9 or cat 6 depending on the market") thanks for this information, but which markets are we talking about?
I am just shocked about how confusing all this is. Amazing. Anyway, personally, I was looking for ideally a dual sim supporting LTE band 20 and if possible cat 9 modem.
One month on intense search, I ended with a single SIM SM-920C. I thought that buying it would make things clearer. Baaaa nothing. I still do not know PRECISELY and OFFICIALLY which LTE bands this model supports. I took it anyway because as an international unlocked model, this is the one that is supposed to be widely compatible.
So, guys, I am not a technical guy. But as now I have it on hands, and as I really spent hours and night browsing the web, I am willing to give you all necessary information about it. I bought it in Morocco where it is officially available. But I am note covered by any LTE band. I know that some codes can tell you on which LTE band you currently are, but not being covered at a precise time by a LTE band does not mean that the device is not compatible with this band.
So I am willing, if that helps, to perform any test to let you know what you would like, if someone interested, as I would have loved finding someone with same questions.
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did your box show which frequency spectrums it supports in the rear? my N5 duos's did. but my gf's S6 duos's box didn't. and they only literature it included was a Quick Start guide and Warrant info.
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tallazzPilipino said:
did your box show which frequency spectrums it supports in the rear? my N5 duos's did. but my gf's S6 duos's box didn't. and they only literature it included was a Quick Start guide and Warrant info.
(Sent from another Galaxy)
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Nothing in the Quick Guide nor in the "Warranty Card" nor the invoice and in the rear box:
SAMSUNG
Galaxy Note5
4G LTE
64Bit Octa Core Processor
4GB RAM
143.9 mm (5,7") Quad HD sAMOLED
16MP(OIS) / SMP
Wireless Charging (Charging par required)
KNOX Protected
32GB Memory*
* Portion of memory occupied by existing content.
For more information on your device,
please visite samsung.com
(nothing also)
Is not it crazy?? oh yes, and nothing on samsung.com (they say go and browse this URL to have more info on this device... LOL)
sambenet said:
Nothing in the Quick Guide nor in the "Warranty Card" nor the invoice and in the rear box:
SAMSUNG
Galaxy Note5
4G LTE
64Bit Octa Core Processor
4GB RAM
143.9 mm (5,7") Quad HD sAMOLED
16MP(OIS) / SMP
Wireless Charging (Charging par required)
KNOX Protected
32GB Memory*
* Portion of memory occupied by existing content.
For more information on your device,
please visite samsung.com
(nothing also)
Is not it crazy?? oh yes, and nothing on samsung.com (they say go and browse this URL to have more info on this device... LOL)
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I tried to look at what info B&H Photo Video might have, but the only Note version they carry is the N920I. for the S6/e they carry several different versions, showing all the frequencies support in the specs. that's where I bought my gf's from. I even looked for a 'C' version for the S6 in their stock, but nothing.
(Sent from another Galaxy)
tallazzPilipino said:
I tried to look at what info B&H Photo Video might have, but the only Note version they carry is the N920I. for the S6/e they carry several different versions, showing all the frequencies support in the specs. that's where I bought my gf's from. I even looked for a 'C' version for the S6 in their stock, but nothing.
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Indeed... there are only 2 ways... that Samsung clearly update its website with the full (real) specs...
Or a developper here finds a way (through an app or a code or anything else) to clearly identify 100% what are the supported bands, without any more doubt or speculation... But when we think about it, more than a month after its presentation, nothing nowhere... It was more easy to find leaked pictures of the device before it went public than the full specs after it's out! just crazzzyy when we think about it!
sambenet said:
Indeed... there are only 2 ways... that Samsung clearly update its website with the full (real) specs...
Or a developper here finds a way (through an app or a code or anything else) to clearly identify 100% what are the supported bands, without any more doubt or speculation... But when we think about it, more than a month after its presentation, nothing nowhere... It was more easy to find leaked pictures of the device before it went public than the full specs after it's out! just crazzzyy when we think about it!
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tried to do a little research. was your N5's default language Turkish? i keep seeing that it's officially a Turkish model.
anyway, i went through the various User Manuals on the Samsung website which is available in various languages. in several of the available languages (non-carrier models), something was consistent - the N920I, N9208 and N920C were always grouped together (edit: or it could just be that they're all dual-SIM models). though i couldn't find any frequencies support within the manual (quickly scrolled through), i'm only assuming that they all cover the same Bands. however, when i was doing some earlier research before i purchased my N9208, i did notice some variations in the supported Bands between it and the N920I. this was based off the info in the back of my box and the written info of the N920I, online. so of course there's the possible chance of an error on the writer's part.
on my G925P (Sprint carrier), there's a dialer code i can go to that shows me the supported frequencies. but that dialer code doesn't seem to work on neither of our carrier models. i guess the only official way is to possibly contact Samsung.
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As mentioned in another thread, according to Samsung South Africa, N920C supports B20. As far as you want to trust Samsung.... and don't ask me why those specs are not on Samsung sites from other countries officially provided with the 920C like UAE etc...
http://www.samsung.com/za/galaxy/note5/specs/
from that site, it looks similar to what the N920I supports - low frequency 800 MHz spectrum for LTE, where my N9208 does not support it. but mine does support both high frequency 2300 and 2500, where that does not.
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tallazzPilipino said:
from that site, it looks similar to what the N920I supports - low frequency 800 MHz spectrum for LTE, where my N9208 does not support it. but mine does support both high frequency 2300 and 2500, where that does not.
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You have to clearly identify bands you need for where you are and your provider. It is not wise to rely only on the frequency.
B18, B19, B20 are mentioned "800 MHz" because they are "around" this frequency. However, if you look at the precise specifications of those bands you will see you can't use one for the others. If you need B20, then B18 or B19 won't make the job.
As far as I know N920I doesn't support B20.
I imagine sambernet needs bands which are used in Europe, that is: B3, B7 and B20.
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You have to clearly identify bands you need for where you are and your provider. It is not wise to rely only on the frequency.
B18, B19, B20 are mentioned "800 MHz" because they are "around" this frequency. However, if you look at the precise specifications of those bands you will see you can't use one for the others. If you need B20, then B18 or B19 won't make the job.
As far as I know N920I doesn't support B20.
I imagine sambernet needs bands which are used in Europe, that is: B3, B7 and B20.
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according to my box, mine doesn't have any support in the 800 MHz spectrum - no B18, B19, B20 or B26.
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according to my box, mine doesn't have any support in the 800 MHz spectrum - no B18, B19, B20 or B26.
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but according to this...
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it says differently, which I have to take with a grain of salt.
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You can check pdadb for this info
tallazzPilipino said:
tried to do a little research. was your N5's default language Turkish? i keep seeing that it's officially a Turkish model.
anyway, i went through the various User Manuals on the Samsung website which is available in various languages. in several of the available languages (non-carrier models), something was consistent - the N920I, N9208 and N920C were always grouped together (edit: or it could just be that they're all dual-SIM models). though i couldn't find any frequencies support within the manual (quickly scrolled through), i'm only assuming that they all cover the same Bands. however, when i was doing some earlier research before i purchased my N9208, i did notice some variations in the supported Bands between it and the N920I. this was based off the info in the back of my box and the written info of the N920I, online. so of course there's the possible chance of an error on the writer's part.
on my G925P (Sprint carrier), there's a dialer code i can go to that shows me the supported frequencies. but that dialer code doesn't seem to work on neither of our carrier models. i guess the only official way is to possibly contact Samsung.
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Default language was french on mine
And no, sm-920c is not a dual sim model. The sm-920cd is. I can try the dialer code you have to check the supported frequencies
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This website seems indeed very complete. But unfortunately, SM-N920C is not (yet?) listed.
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As mentioned in another thread, according to Samsung South Africa, N920C supports B20. As far as you want to trust Samsung.... and don't ask me why those specs are not on Samsung sites from other countries officially provided with the 920C like UAE etc...
http://www.samsung.com/za/galaxy/note5/specs/
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Thanks for this, I think this is the only link from Samsung listing the SM-N920C officially with the supported LTE bands mentioned. But even if we suppose that all the information are correct, still one huge information is missing: is it a category 6 or 9? ... When we put 800 dollars on a device, Samsung needs to understand that this might be important for a client to know if his device will be still up-to-date in 1 or 2 years and category 9 modem gives this guarantee. (even if the 6 is also a top notch today)
I believe this to be the specs for the SM-N9208...
http://www.samsung.com/tw/consumer/mobile-phones/smart-phone/galaxy-note/SM-N9208ZSUBRI
still no mention of LTE Category 6 or 9 that I can notice. based on the following research, even with Category 6, it's good for another couple of years, at least in my market. fastest speeds i've ever tested was about ~130 Mbps on Sprint's dual-aggregation in the San Francisco area (I have service on all 4 major US networks). though, they are expected to follow with their 3x carrier aggregation.
so even with LTE category 9, I think by the time the rest of this phone becomes dated, it would still be ahead if it's time in my market. sort like the whole 4K fiasco. which market are you from? it seems South Korea would be the first to take advantage?
https://www.abiresearch.com/press/64-million-lte-category-9-and-category-10-smartpho/
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This seller mentions cat 9 for the 920C, now the question is where he picked up the info.
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Samsung-Gala...M-Black-NEW-/281802473357?hash=item419cbc7f8d
tallazzPilipino said:
I believe this to be the specs for the SM-N9208...
http://www.samsung.com/tw/consumer/mobile-phones/smart-phone/galaxy-note/SM-N9208ZSUBRI
still no mention of LTE Category 6 or 9 that I can notice. based on the following research, even with Category 6, it's good for another couple of years, at least in my market. fastest speeds i've ever tested was about ~130 Mbps on Sprint's dual-aggregation in the San Francisco area (I have service on all 4 major US networks). though, they are expected to follow with their 3x carrier aggregation.
so even with LTE category 9, I think by the time the rest of this phone becomes dated, it would still be ahead if it's time in my market. sort like the whole 4K fiasco. which market are you from? it seems South Korea would be the first to take advantage?
https://www.abiresearch.com/press/64-million-lte-category-9-and-category-10-smartpho/
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Personally, I am living between Europe and the Middle-East. I totally agree with you, category 6 is fine for the next 2/3 years but category 9 starts to really make sense in more and more markets (France, Qatar, and many other countries are already testing 3 bands in the same time...) In all cases, you know how we are, when we buy a new device, we always want to make sure that it has all latest technologies... by the way, I am impressed by the quality and power of the wifi on the Note 5. It is more powerful than my Macbook Pro Retina !
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This seller mentions cat 9 for the 920C, now the question is where he picked up the info.
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Samsung-Gala...M-Black-NEW-/281802473357?hash=item419cbc7f8d
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I really can not trust any seller online... especially on eBay... when most of the time they do not even know what they are talking about... Few weeks ago, I sent an email to an ebay seller asking him about the LTE bands and cat 6 or 9... His reply? All about payment and logistics... yeahh ok all right thanks man of course your only goal is to sell... and when you understand that... you understand everything.....
Official source from Samsung or technical test on the device are the 2 only sources I would trust... (and even Samsung already made many mistakes on their website so... )
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Personally, I am living between Europe and the Middle-East. I totally agree with you, category 6 is fine for the next 2/3 years but category 9 starts to really make sense in more and more markets (France, Qatar, and many other countries are already testing 3 bands in the same time...) In all cases, you know how we are, when we buy a new device, we always want to make sure that it has all latest technologies... by the way, I am impressed by the quality and power of the wifi on the Note 5. It is more powerful than my Macbook Pro Retina !
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i totally understand. i'm the same way with my cameras having the latest of certain features. but for phones, i sort of think of them as disposable after a year or two. haha
what part of the middle east? my gf (international flight attendant) was first assigned in NYC where i first met her, but has since been transferred to Istanbul, and now Riyadh. it'll be about another 2 years before she can come back to NYC [emoji45]. it's actually why i bought her an unlocked international S6 duos for all her traveling. i travel domestically for work, too, and is why i have the N5 duos and all these separate services.
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Does anyone know from past experience (etc) if the U.S. Amazon site will get the INTERNATIONAL version of the Xperia X Performance at the same time as the other countries do?? I know the int'l version will get released before the U.S. version, but can anyone say if they've heard or seen that the U.S. Amazon site will get them at that time or later??
Thank you in advance!!
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Does anyone know from past experience (etc) if the U.S. Amazon site will get the INTERNATIONAL version of the Xperia X Performance at the same time as the other countries do?? I know the int'l version will get released before the U.S. version, but can anyone say if they've heard or seen that the U.S. Amazon site will get them at that time or later??
Thank you in advance!!
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check expansys hk for the dual sim 64GB version.
kms108 said:
check expansys hk for the dual sim 64GB version.
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kms,
I've already pre-ordered the single-sim version from Expansys U.S., and have no desire to buy the dual-sim version. But thanks anyway.
Any idea if ANY of the XP variants Sony is releasing will come with VoLTE???
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kms,
I've already pre-ordered the single-sim version from Expansys U.S., and have no desire to buy the dual-sim version. But thanks anyway.
Any idea if ANY of the XP variants Sony is releasing will come with VoLTE???
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VoLTE is not a feature that sony will omit from the Hong Kong version, I think all the service provider in Hong Kong supports VoLTE, but have to wait for the release before I can confirm, it should be available on the 16th.
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VoLTE is not a feature that sony will omit from the Hong Kong version, I think all the service provider in Hong Kong supports VoLTE, but have to wait for the release before I can confirm, it should be available on the 16th.
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kms,
Hmm interesting........ I have NO desire for the dual-SIM, HOWEVER.......... if the dual-sim version comes with VoLTE, then I will most certainly be interested in it!! I found out that, at least with my carrier (T-Mobile, I live in the Chicago area in the U.S.), even though the XP has Band 12/700 MHz capability, because it doesn't have VoLTE (single-sim), it WILL NOT be able to utilize Band 12 for voice during phone calls, only the data portion can be used on Band 12 during a call. But with VoLTE, I'd be able to use Band 12 for voice too............which is important because my area is going to have it very soon! Band 12/700 MHz spectrum is very valuable b/c it can penetrate buildings much better than the higher bandwidths can, which means BETTER reception while indoors! :victory: Right now it doesn't matter, but in 6-8 months when we WILL have it, it will.
2 questions:
1) Are YOU getting your dual-sim version of the XP from Expansys HK?
2) The 16th? As in JUNE 16th kms??!!
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kms,
Hmm interesting........ I have NO desire for the dual-SIM, HOWEVER.......... if the dual-sim version comes with VoLTE, then I will most certainly be interested in it!! I found out that, at least with my carrier (T-Mobile, I live in the Chicago area in the U.S.), even though the XP has Band 12/700 MHz capability, because it doesn't have VoLTE (single-sim), it WILL NOT be able to utilize Band 12 for voice during phone calls, only the data portion can be used on Band 12 during a call. But with VoLTE, I'd be able to use Band 12 for voice too............which is important because my area is going to have it very soon! Band 12/700 MHz spectrum is very valuable b/c it can penetrate buildings much better than the higher bandwidths can, which means BETTER reception while indoors! :victory: Right now it doesn't matter, but in 6-8 months when we WILL have it, it will.
2 questions:
1) Are YOU getting your dual-sim version of the XP from Expansys HK?
2) The 16th? As in JUNE 16th kms??!!
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I'm still considering the X or XP, The X will be available on the 7th whiles the XP is on the 16th, I think I heard the shop say this, but can't confirm yet, but it is before mid of this month for both.
If I do get one it will be from a local chain store in Hong Kong, that way I can inspect the unit before hand for scratches, dead pixels and other cosmetic defect or problem, HK only has the dual sim version, the second sim is a hybrid sim/micro sd, but that isn't a problem as I can get them both working together.
Once either one is released I can check for you, about the VoLTE, but cannot check the bands.
Initial finding of the bands for XP and X are:
LTE FDD 700/800/850900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600
LTE TDD 1900/2300/2500/2600
WCDMA 800/850/900/1700/1900/2100
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I'm still considering the X or XP, The X will be available on the 7th whiles the XP is on the 16th, I think I heard the shop say this, but can't confirm yet, but it is before mid of this month for both.
If I do get one it will be from a local chain store in Hong Kong, that way I can inspect the unit before hand for scratches, dead pixels and other cosmetic defect or problem.
Once either one is released I can check for you, about the VoLTE, but cannot check the bands.
Initial finding of the bands for XP and X are:
LTE FDD 700/800/850900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600
LTE TDD 1900/2300/2500/2600
WCDMA 800/850/900/1700/1900/2100
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kms,
Yeah I've already confirmed the XP has Band 12/700 MHz capability, so don't worry about that. But getting a version of the XP that HAS VoLTE would be VERY important to me! I HATE it when other people around me can get reception indoors but I can't (it doesn't happen often, but it does happen). Having VoLTE would most likely eliminate this from happening the majority (if not ALL) the time.
That's fine. The one from the store will be the same as the dual-sim one from Expansys HK anyway.
So THIS month?!! :good::victory: That's f'ing awesome!!! Yeah we won't get the the single-sim XP here in the U.S. 'til I dunno, early to mid July? So even if I have to pay more for dual-sim, to have it extra early and WITH VoLTE would be extraordinary!! Man I REALLY HOPE the dual-SIM version of the XP has VoLTE!
Ok so say it does have it...........is there any reason to think it might not work here in the U.S. kms??!
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kms,
Yeah I've already confirmed the XP has Band 12/700 MHz capability, so don't worry about that. But getting a version of the XP that HAS VoLTE would be VERY important to me! I HATE it when other people around can get reception indoors but I can't (it doesn't happen often, but it does happen). Having VoLTE would most likely eliminate this the majority (if not ALL) the time.
That's fine. The one from the store will be the same as the dual-sim one from Expansys HK anyway.
So THIS month?!! :good::victory: That's f'ing awesome!!! Yeah we won't get the the single-sim XP here in the U.S. 'til I dunno, early to mid July? So even if I have to pay more for dual-sim, to have it extra early and WITH VoLTE would be extraordinary!! Man I REALLY HOPE the dual-SIM version of the XP has VoLTE!
Ok so say it does have it...........is there any reason to think it might not work here in the U.S. kms??!
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HK expansys is likely to get the Hong Kong version, it's also a 64GB version, the only reason for not working in the US is the band, the band is 700, but there are various version of the 700 band, so not sure if this is the band 12.
kms108 said:
HK expansys is likely to get the Hong Kong version, it's also a 64GB version, the only reason for not working in the US is the band, the band is 700, but there are various version of the 700 band, so not sure if this is the band 12.
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Ughh you're right about the dual-sim one having 64 GBs! I don't need the 64GB version, like I don't need the extra SIM slot lol, but F it, whatever. IF this f'ing phone ACTUALLY has VoLTE on it, then I'll buy it. FML lol
Well wait a minute. There's a Hong Kong version? I don't think so kms..........the single-sim one I pre-ordered from Expansys US is the INTERNATIONAL version. Expansys US' own customer service people told me that they ONLY sell the international versions (unless otherwise noted). So I think the one you guys are getting will be the INTERNATIONAL version kms, but it'll be sold there in HK. Both the single and dual SIM versions of the XP (F8131 & F8132) have Band 12/700 MHz. So I don't see why it would be any different here vs. in Hong Kong to be honest with you.
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Ughh you're right about the dual-sim one having 64 GBs! I don't need the 64GB version, like I don't need the extra SIM slot lol, but F it, whatever. IF this f'ing phone ACTUALLY has VoLTE on it, then I'll buy it. FML lol
Well wait a minute. There's a Hong Kong version? I don't think so kms..........the single-sim one I pre-ordered from Expansys US is the INTERNATIONAL version. Expansys US' own customer service people told me that they ONLY sell the international versions (unless otherwise noted). So I think the one you guys are getting will be the INTERNATIONAL version kms, but it'll be sold there in HK. Both the single and dual SIM versions of the XP (F8131 & F8132) have Band 12/700 MHz. So I don't see why it would be any different here vs. in Hong Kong to be honest with you.
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If you can confirm the information is correct, then it's ok, extra internal memory is bettery, even 32Gb is getting slightly small these days, so the more the better.
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If you can confirm the information is correct, then it's ok, extra internal memory is bettery, even 32Gb is getting slightly small these days, so the more the better.
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Yeah but I already HAVE a 64 GB MicroSD card in my phone now, so I don't need the extra room, and won't be using it either.
Confirm what information kms??
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Yeah but I already HAVE a 64 GB MicroSD card in my phone now, so I don't need the extra room, and won't be using it either.
Confirm what information kms??
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If the information about the version you are about to get is correct, thats what matters.
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If the information about the version you are about to get is correct, thats what matters.
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You mean the single-sim one I pre-ordered, that it IS in fact the international version?? If so, I've already confirmed that with Expansys US. They told me they only sell the int'l version of phones UNLESS otherwise noted. Here is a copy & paste of their e-mailed response to me on that topic:
This would be the international version, please let us know if you have any other questions.
Regards,
Dulce
So kms, if that's what they sell, then the dual-SIM (F8132) model YOU'RE getting will also be int'l, so it will come with Band 12/700 MHz capability on it as well, which that page I linked you earlier confirmed. What I don't get is why the F8132 would have VoLTE on it but the single-sim F8131 wouldn't? But if your prediction is true, then I don't give a sh*t. lol I just want that f'ing phone!! lol
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You mean the single-sim one I pre-ordered, that it IS in fact the international version?? If so, I've already confirmed that with Expansys US. They told me they only sell the int'l version of phones UNLESS otherwise noted. Here is a copy & paste of their e-mailed response to me on that topic:
This would be the international version, please let us know if you have any other questions.
Regards,
Dulce
So kms, if that's what they sell, then the dual-SIM (F8132) model YOU'RE getting will also be int'l, so it will come with Band 12/700 MHz capability on it as well, which that page I linked you earlier confirmed. What I don't get is why the F8132 would have VoLTE on it but the single-sim F8131 wouldn't? But if your prediction is true, then I don't give a sh*t. lol I just want that f'ing phone!! lol
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Volte won't work unless sony actually certifies the process with the carriers they intend to have it with. Volte will not work like the z5 didn't.
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MGSBigBoss said:
Volte won't work unless sony actually certifies the process with the carriers they intend to have it with. Volte will not work like the z5 didn't.
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F. Ughh......... lol.
So the unlocked Z5 had VoLTE on it but it still didn't work here in the U.S.??
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F. Ughh......... lol.
So the unlocked Z5 had VoLTE on it but it still didn't work here in the U.S.??
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Correct. Anything that has LTE bands and Android 5.0 and up has volte capabilities
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Correct. Anything that has LTE bands and Android 5.0 and up has volte capabilities
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Ok.
So what do you think MGS? Get the XP with the best camera but can't utilize Band 12 for voice on a call (so can't benefit from its improved indoor reception advantage) & no HD Voice, or get the HTC 10 which still has a very good camera and has the Band 12/VoLTE/HD Voice advantage? Tough choice, for me anyway.
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Ok.
So what do you think MGS? Get the XP with the best camera but can't utilize Band 12 for voice on a call (so can't benefit from its improved indoor reception advantage) & no HD Voice, or get the HTC 10 which still has a very good camera and has the Band 12/VoLTE/HD Voice advantage? Tough choice, for me anyway.
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Ethically I'd say htc 10 as htc wants your money as they listen to their fans for the most part and go the extra mile supporting all carrier features. On the other hand I'm a big sony fan and enjoy the value of their hardware but let's be honest sony really doesn't care about us. They force us to buy international versions to get full features and gimp us phones without giving us legitimate reasoning. Have you ever talked to sony mobile support they are as clueless as we are.
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Ethically I'd say htc 10 as htc wants your money as they listen to their fans for the most part and go the extra mile supporting all carrier features. On the other hand I'm a big sony fan and enjoy the value of their hardware but let's be honest sony really doesn't care about us. They force us to buy international versions to get full features and gimp us phones without giving us legitimate reasoning. Have you ever talked to sony mobile support they are as clueless as we are.
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You make some valid points MGS.
The fact that HTC STILL sells their phones through all the major carriers is an advantage all its own. I can go onto T-Mobile's website and buy the HTC 10 RIGHT NOW if I wanted to.
Yeah I mean, I can't lie, I love Sony's Xperia phones the most. But I am at wit's end here with all this hassle I have to go through to buy the d*mn thing, and then in dealing with the BS that comes with the actual phone. The int'l version is cheaper (yet better) and is coming out sooner than the U.S. version, so I don't really care about that. But this VoLTE thing really p's me off cuz I won't get the BEST reception with it even though I really should. Plus having to buy it unlocked is dumb too.
Oh dude, JUST the other day I spoke to them. They LITERALLY know nothing more about why the supreme morons that run that company do what they do than we do. Is it really THAT hard to get the phone certified? I mean, if you're not gonna offer people the chance to pay for it on a monthly basis (like carriers do) interest-free, and not release it on time (f'ing July??!), the LEAST you could do is go that extra mile and get the d*mn thing certified for VoLTE and HD Voice too.
So your answer is HTC 10 or XP? lol
RockStar2005 said:
You make some valid points MGS.
The fact that HTC STILL sells their phones through all the major carriers is an advantage all its own. I can go onto T-Mobile's website and buy the HTC 10 RIGHT NOW if I wanted to.
Yeah I mean, I can't lie, I love Sony's Xperia phones the most. But I am at wit's end here with all this hassle I have to go through to buy the d*mn thing, and then in dealing with the BS that comes with the actual phone. The int'l version is cheaper (yet better) and is coming out sooner than the U.S. version, so I don't really care about that. But this VoLTE thing really p's me off cuz I won't get the BEST reception with it even though I really should. Plus having to buy it unlocked is dumb too.
Oh dude, JUST the other day I spoke to them. They LITERALLY know nothing more about why the supreme morons that run that company do what they do than we do. Is it really THAT hard to get the phone certified? I mean, if you're not gonna offer people the chance to pay for it on a monthly basis (like carriers do) interest-free, and not release it on time (f'ing July??!), the LEAST you could do is go that extra mile and get the d*mn thing certified for VoLTE and HD Voice too.
So your answer is HTC 10 or XP? lol
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I really don't know yet. I'm tempted to just stay with my z3v which has volte and hdvoice on verizon lol
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