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Quality of materials?

I hope we can all agree that regardless of the technological aspects and software utilised in the gear it may well prove rather moot as that strap may just about last a year? Remember the gear will need to be removed from the wrist several times a day. To charge, to shower, to wash hands with immersion etc. For the life of me and with a vast experience of watches I cannot see that strap lasting long, it feels very poorly constructed from very cheap materials.
The worst point is that strap is an integral part of the watch and cannot be replaced. Some people are spending well over 1K on the Note 3 and the gear and neither of them are worthy of that sort of cash. Such a shame as the ideas are wonderful. Cheap cheap cheap. Chinese penny bazzar looking at prices that would shock a turf accountant!
My first and last purchase without first seeing and feeling the purchase in hand. I made a big mistake. I shall learn from it.

Ryland Johnson said:
I hope we can all agree that regardless of the technological aspects and software utilised in the gear it may well prove rather moot as that strap may just about last a year? Remember the gear will need to be removed from the wrist several times a day. To charge, to shower, to wash hands with immersion etc. For the life of me and with a vast experience of watches I cannot see that strap lasting long, it feels very poorly constructed from very cheap materials.
The worst point is that strap is an integral part of the watch and cannot be replaced. Some people are spending well over 1K on the Note 3 and the gear and neither of them are worthy of that sort of cash. Such a shame as the ideas are wonderful. Cheap cheap cheap. Chinese penny bazzar looking at prices that would shock a turf accountant!
My first and last purchase without first seeing and feeling the purchase in hand. I made a big mistake. I shall learn from it.
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Have both Note 3 and Gear and don't agree with you.
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Do you actually have one?
What is it about the materials that's different from any other rubber banded watch?

xManMythLegend said:
Do you actually have one?
What is it about the materials that's different from any other rubber banded watch?
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Of course I have one? I purchased the two on a special pre order price. What does that have to do with it?
Oris make wrist bands out of rubber, that rubber is vulcanised and treated to last years like a tyre, Oris even had to add a vanilla scent to the compound as customers started to complain that they smelt of rubber. I am not even sure if the band on the gear is even some sort of rubber of just plastic. I do not think it nylon. I will do my best to find out though.
Regardless of compound it feels cheap and looks even cheaper. I do hope I am proved incorrect, I would be the first to be pleased. Mu opinion is based on pure conjecture and experience of watches.
Kind regards.

It matters because owning one and trying one on would be more believable than just a "I tried it on in the store".
GShocks are about 1-200$ and are rubber or nylon and are pretty bomb proof. Youre comparing $1200 time pieces to this.
If it's cheap then that sucks. But you're making weird comparisons.

Gear has better build quality compare to Galaxy phones. But it really lack something special!

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Zanr Zij said:
Gear has better build quality compare to Galaxy phones. But it really lack something special!
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+1.
I also think that installed battery is not enough. It can be OK if phone works only one day, but watch should works several days (5+). In other case it will be just another gadget that you need to charge frequently. It's annoying for me to change several devices all the time.

xManMythLegend said:
It matters because owning one and trying one on would be more believable than just a "I tried it on in the store".
GShocks are about 1-200$ and are rubber or nylon and are pretty bomb proof. Youre comparing $1200 time pieces to this.
If it's cheap then that sucks. But you're making weird comparisons.
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I own one period.
Casio G-shock watches. I own about a dozen of them. I have the bottom of the range right up to the top, Watchers in this country are a fortune. I have paid from less than 100.00€ and the maximum for a limited edition imported from Japan was no more than 400.00€
Though I am NOT in the watch trade my family have been for well over 100 years. I have an enormous collection of watches, I was raised with them and have a little knowledge about them. That is not even relevant here as I am posting an opinion, you know one of those things we over this side of the pond are allowed to enjoy without being bullied?
lastly I am making no such comparisons. If I may have an opinion and write about it here before you blow my head off I would just like to comment how I found the watch. I am highly delighted you found it satisfactory and will not suggest you don't own one just because you like it.
If its possible I would enjoy a civil polite debate. If you want to play 'my daddies bigger un yors' then please find another patsy.

Zanr Zij said:
Gear has better build quality compare to Galaxy phones. But it really lack something special!
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I think I understand your point. Something we wear on our wrist makes a statement about who we are. Though I am truly amazed at what the Gear does in terms of software functionality, I am very concerned that its made from rather cheap materials that may not last. I do NOT know this as a fact. We could all be still using the gear Mk1 in 3 years and the strap be just fine. I cannot see into the future.
From what I see with the gear though I think it may have been wiser for Samsung to hang on a few months and at least improve on the IP rating.
Taking the watch off every time we wash hands is going to prove a real challenge.
That camera in certain European countries is going to be the cause of much debate in the very near future.
Time will tell.
Regards.

mycodefab said:
+1.
I also think that installed battery is not enough. It can be OK if phone works only one day, but watch should works several days (5+). In other case it will be just another gadget that you need to charge frequently. It's annoying for me to change several devices all the time.
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My Gear works for over 2 days. But agree battery could be better. The benefits of the Gear out weigh the need to charge. Battery is better than most smartphones so not really an issue to charge it every other day.
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My Gear works for over 2 days. But agree battery could be better. The benefits of the Gear out weigh the need to charge. Battery is better than most smartphones so not really an issue to charge it every other day.
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What is your typical use that allows it to last 2 days? I don't have Gear, but curious. Do you use camera often? I assume the display is off most of the time? Do you typically get a lot of notifications and emails during the day?

vectron said:
What is your typical use that allows it to last 2 days? I don't have Gear, but curious. Do you use camera often? I assume the display is off most of the time? Do you typically get a lot of notifications and emails during the day?
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I turned down the brightness and selected less vibration strength. Also I dont wear my warch to bed so switch off the Gear at night. Using this approach now expect 3 days of use between charges. Probably receive about 5 texts a day and about 20 emails.
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Alternate 22mm straps?

Anyone replace out your strap/band yet? How does it look?
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Yep, hated the stock band. I purchased this one... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001EYVBJA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Super quick review... Matches the watch like it was built for it. I've had this brand before and it held up well which isn't surprising, it feels like a piece of decent quality. Quicker to take on and off and less likely to drop your watch which is true all of straps of this type versus a buckle. Regrets = zero.

Sweet! I just ordered one too....
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krabman said:
Yep, hated the stock band. I purchased this one... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001EYVBJA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Super quick review... Matches the watch like it was built for it. I've had this brand before and it held up well which isn't surprising, it feels like a piece of decent quality. Quicker to take on and off and less likely to drop your watch which is true all of straps of this type versus a buckle. Regrets = zero.
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I wonder if they make that one in the rose gold that matches the gold Urbane. I will have to look into that...

I purchased these 2:
DASSARI Concord Black w/ White Stitching Croc Leather watch Band for BREITLING 22/20 22mm https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OC77BR2/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_Ctssvb0JQAJAR
Ritche 22mm Stainless Steel Bracelet Watch Band Strap Curved End Solid Links Color Silver https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DKYC93E/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_fvssvb1V69QNZ

TriadX1 said:
I wonder if they make that one in the rose gold that matches the gold Urbane. I will have to look into that...
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Its much easier to match up the stainless than various gold, rose, graphite, ti, etc. bands/straps/bracelets. I would consider taking it to a larger shop where they have a good inventory and try to match it up.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005K2R4IO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 This was the wand band I ordered when I bought the watch. It matches the watch perfectly. I attached some pictures below.

I am curious about how you charge the watch with a metal band. Could someone please post a picture of your watch on the stock charger to show how you do it?

just ordered this
Hadley Roma 18-22mm Squeeze End Link Men's Deployant Stainless Metal Watch Band
http://www.ebay.com/itm/371296668278

JimSmith94 said:
I am curious about how you charge the watch with a metal band. Could someone please post a picture of your watch on the stock charger to show how you do it?
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The magnet is strong enough to hold the charger to the phone in most any position including the watch laying on its side. You can do it however you want.

Got the SUPER engineer Type II based on reviews
Amazon item B00CSE7IJ2
I know it seems like it's a bit pricey compared to others like the Hadley Roma but I'm super impressed with the quality. It's very heavy and the edges are not rounded over like it was mass produced. The links that can be removed for sizing have screws and they are super easy to adjust. I also like the buttons on the flip part of the band closure.
$72 bucks is still a hell of a lot cheaper than those rip off apple metal bands. Can't imagine them being any higher quality than this.
Important note: the 2.5mm fat boy pins that come with this larger band do not fit into the body of the LG Urbane because the lugs or tips are 0.8mm instead of the tiny ones that came on the existing leather strap band. For now, I'm using the pins that came with the watch, which are standard 22mm, but with smaller lugs. I could not find another vendor who made a 2.5mm pin with smaller tips since these larger bands are designed to go on Seiko's or diving watches.
Update: My plan is to put the fat boy pins that came with the watch in my dremel and use a micro diamond file ($13 on amazon) to reduce the lug down to a diameter that works in the Urbane. I will post an update if it works out and post links to the files I bought. Don't see why it wouldn't work and I don't think there is any other choice if you want to utilize the fat boy pins...which I do.
Stay tuned...pics coming.
Peter

ptchan5, could you explain in greater detail the Fatboy 2.5mm lug and LGs .8mm tips?
Keep us posted in the project

Anyone here thinking of going with a dark brown aligator band with the silver watch?
I would love to here what you guys think... or am I the only one not going with the metal braclet.

why_999 said:
Anyone here thinking of going with a dark brown aligator band with the silver watch?
I would love to here what you guys think... or am I the only one not going with the metal braclet.
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I like this also.
Metal bands are not my thing.

Fat boy 22mm Spring Pins MOD
This is a follow-up to my previous post.
I used a dremel to reduce the diameter of the lugs on the 2.5mm fat boy spring pins that come with the heavy diver watch metal bands. I searched high and low and I believe all the thick spring pins come with 0.8-1.0mm lugs at the tips which are too big for the body of the LG Urbane. Turns out the pins that come with the Urbane are actually smaller than the holes in the watch body, but the fat boy pins are just a wee bit too large.
This MOD took about 5-8 minutes to do and worked perfectly! Now you can use the spring pins that were supposed to go with the larger metal band.
All you need to do is insert the spring pin into the dremel about half way and turn the dremel on to low setting. I bought the cheapest set of micro files I could find on Amazon Prime for $14 bucks and I ended up only using a single file out of the set. The one I used was the 90 degree square one so I could easily just hold it up to the lug for a minute or two and moved it forward and backward while watching the lug leave metal residue on the file. The 316L stainless steel pins are not soft metal! So it's nearly impossible to mess this one up. Once I got the pins to be reduced down in size visually I tested them in the watch before proceeding to do the rest of the pin ends.
Again, don't waste your time searching ebay or Amazon for 2.5mm pins with smaller lug pins. They don't exist. Besides by the time you buy them and find out they don't work you could have owned a nice set of micro files and been done with the MOD on the original pins that shipped with the watch band.
Very happy with the results. Ping me if none of this makes sense. Enjoy!
** Apparently can't post the pics, so ping me and I'll email them to you; maybe someone else can post them for me **

I think I'm going to go with this one
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00RF...olid=3U4N5O4C10O74&coliid=I34CDQ7SASFQ76&vs=1

graffixnyc said:
I think I'm going to go with this one
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00RF...olid=3U4N5O4C10O74&coliid=I34CDQ7SASFQ76&vs=1
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That one has the cutout for the Moto 360. You don't need that for the Urbane.

JimSmith94 said:
That one has the cutout for the Moto 360. You don't need that for the Urbane.
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That's not a factor for me. I'm getting that one because I liked the design best. I'm sure it would fit the urbane just fine.

I'm not much of a watch geek and have never paid too much attention to what strap I'm using. I used a NATO strap with my Pebble and the original straps with both my Pebble Steel and LG G Watch R.
However, I keep reading how uncomfortable the Urbane's strap is and it got me thinking: could I use the one in the Watch R with the Urbane? I find that one pretty comfortable.

Gorgeous!
Finally received my new metal bracelet and it beats anything I have ever seen, it really makes my watch look fair superior than even an apple watch

Does the Gear Live still do the job?

Hi all
Because of the price point ($150 CDN), the gear live is one of my finalists for a smartwatch.
My question is, obviously, is the device still a good purchase in 2016?
Why or why not?
Thanks!

I would say yes I got the watch for christmas from my wife and have been using it every day since, lasts me all day with a few texts here and there, connects to my bluetooth headset, plays music independantly of phone, plenty of watchfaces on android market and can make your own with watchmaker app. Heart rate monitor is pretty consistent, screen res is nice and always on with dimmed mode. All in all a nice looking functional watch

yep mine still works awesome. I think google said that all android wear watches will get marshmallow update so it atleast good for another year. The always on display is a big feature.

I would say no....
I recently bought the Samsung Gear Live (new for $80) and also a new LG Urbane and I think I would have skipped the SGL if I had to do it over.
They are both running the same code and quite frankly, the SGL is a bit flaky compared to the LG.

ekaiser57 said:
Hi all
Because of the price point ($150 CDN), the gear live is one of my finalists for a smartwatch.
My question is, obviously, is the device still a good purchase in 2016?
Why or why not?
Thanks!
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I would avoid the Samsung Gear Live at any price over $80 USD.
I purchased a SGL in November 2014. I wore it all day every day until December 2015 when I picked up a Huawei Watch.
Samsung Gear Live:
Pros:
AMOLED Display
Heart Rate Sensor
Comfortable Ergonomic feel when worn
Acceptable battery life (I keep tilt to wake, always on display, and Wifi active)
IP67 Certification with silicone straps work well with an active lifestyle
Cons:
Display likely to pick up a few scratches over time. The outter bezel is not raised from the screen which makes the watch easier to interact with, but offers no protections against incidental contact. (I am very careful with electronics but my watches always seem to get nicked up. Unless you go with a Huawei watch with sapphire crystal this will likely be an issue on any android wear watch.)
Charger quality in question. The charger cradle clips on the back of the watch and secures tabs in the cradle into recesses on the sides of the watch. One of the tabs on my charger broke after around 6 months. I purchased a replacement from Samsung which is still holding up. I have even read cases of the recessed cavities on the watch breaking.
The plastic around where the watchbands connect has cracked and chipped off. The band is still held securely in the metal casing but I would think this will happen on all SGLs with time. This appears to affect the watches water resistance as it creates openings into the case.
The Lugs/connection place for the watch bands has a unique profile that in my opinion only looks nice with the watch band that comes with the watch. It will work with most 22mm watch bands but third party bands just don't look right to me.
The connection on the stock watch band is secured with two punch-through pins and can disconnect if the band gets caught on something like your belt or pocket.
The watch does not include an internal speaker and therefore will not support the speaker features in the Marshmallow Android Wear update.
Final Thoughts
I still wear my SGL when playing sports or working out but due to the build quality issues and look/style with custom watch bands I would not recommend it as a daily watch. I would suggest an Asus Zenwatch 2 in a similar price point as it includes an embedded speaker and has a more standard watch lug design that will allow you to use third party straps without compromising the look.
Once the Marshmallow Android Wear update is available you will definitely want a watch with an embedded speaker. I am so looking forward to being able to easily answer a call on my watch while either my phone is close but not accessible or my hands are not able to get to my phone. My most common examples wold be driving, cooking, and playing video games.
I have also accrued 5 new watch bands in addition to the one that came with my Huawei watch and I change them very frequently. I was not able to do this with the Gear Live as I hated the way after marked watch straps looked at the connection between the watch strap and the watch case.
If you still want a Gear Live I would suggest setting up an alert for it on Slickdeals and wait for a good deal to come along. It was available for $80 USD for a short time on 1/15/2016 on eBay.
Let me know if you have any more detailed questions about the SGL.

Cleanest mod USB Fan + Powerbank for Gear VR

Pictures of mod items down below.
Back to the topic of modding the IE Gear VR for the note 4:
I just received my IE unit days ago and had a look at the various modding attempts be it on this thread, youtube or google altogether.
Some do look clean enough still I was pondering the idea of the cleanest sleekiest modding design, while keeping costs to a minimum.
After about 3 days of hectic googling, I came up with the following:
1- 8000mah Note 4 extended battery:
Link: http://www.ebay.de/itm/391342722159?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=660582850100&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
As opposed to the many more or less higher capacities at about 9000mah up to 10000mah which cover more width area of the phone. This piece at 8000mah has the same proportions as the original battery, only two times thicker.
That should be taken into consideration as the heating parts on the phone when used with the VR are usually around the back camera upper area. Having a normal sized extended battery should leave free room for air-cooling later on. As opposed to the wider kind at say 10000mah (Wink Wink Zerolemon ) that unfortunately cover the heating-up back side of the phone, theoretically causing the air-cooling mod not to work.
Last but not least, this battery at its offered capacity roughly costs 10 bucks. It should be a steal, once I'll confirm it is indeed offering a close enough performance to its claimed 8000mah capacity. More on that soon.
2- USB Cooling Fan
Link: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1Pcs-Cool-Cooler-Cooling-Fan-USB-Foldable-Folding-Pad-w-2-Fans-for-Laptop-Notebook-Free/32435788330.html
Now to the main course, the cooling!
Most mods I've seen use an elaborate approach based on adapters and long cables.
Now I have found this piece, two fans already USB'ed and sized at :
167*66*20mm (respectively: Length*Width*Thickness)
These proportions should easily fit my rough calculation of the VR removable Front cover which more or less are:
180*80*18mm
USB is a 5V DC easily powered by any powerbank.
Price is just about 3 bucks. well 2,36 euros for me.
More on that after I receive my order and see to it.
Plan is double sided tape. More on that later.
3- Powerbank for the USB Fan:
With portability always in mind and me not willing to give up any aspect of that portability. Mods I've seen around just velcro-strap a sizeable powerbank on the headstrap or backstrap then call it a day. That is neither cool nor comfy. It is of course a matter of opinion and that was mine. Anyhow, here is the link of the smallest powerbank I've seen.
Link: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/keychain-Mini-Powerbank-1800mah-5V-1A-Mobile-Phone-Power-Bank-Mini-usb-Universal-Portable-External-Battery/32585393797.html
proportions: 51.5*41.5*17.5mm
weight: merely 70g
These proportions perfectly fit the left side of the VR where the GEAR VR OCULUS logo is.
It is planned to be installed by surrounding the edges and corners of that logo with thin double-sided tape/Velcro. That should keep the logo visible, harm the appearance as little as possible and hold the 70gram powerbank just fine.
Also more on that when I receive the goods.
The powerbank has a decent 1800mah for something the size of a key (designed as a keychain). That should be enough to run the fans for two days at least, again theoretically.
The price is an alluring 10 bucks or less if site's discount is applied.
Edit: If all works according to calculations, this mini powerbank would be sprayed white so it would fit with the IE Gear VR colors, and not stand out with its gold finish.
Conclusion:
My note 4 with the original 3220mah holds about 3h to 3h30 inside the VR without mods.
With the 8000mah it should hold up double the time or if conservative then a decent 5 hours. Again without cooling.
Double Fan cooling should be extreme as most of the seen mods report no heating whatsoever with just one fan, still lets see if double fans might be the new standard !
The Powerbank is to be installed as plug and play (with velcro) on the side. Just press it in or pull out from the left side. Easy.
The powerbank's own proportions are fitting the left side, so neither appearance nor design are compromised.
At 23 bucks, this is the lowest cost/design mod seen yet.
Well not seen it perse, I have to make it :laugh:
Pictures down below.

Actual DIY mod
Update 07-05-2016
I recently received my orders for the DIY and started working on it.
Challenges were met, but let's keep it brief.
My piece of advice on all this would be:
No matter how good your calculations are (for this particular kind of mod that doesn't involve damaging or altering the cover case but rather duct-taping your way around it):
Always make sure to double check your calculations as you will be working on a Millimeter -mm- basis here. . It literally took me tens of trial and error and loads of patience to find that particular right spot where the two fans don't hit on anything be it the camera or any part of the phone .The concave form factor of the protective cover definitely was of no help as only the center can be used, and that center hardly houses two fans.
So the fans had to be stripped down to the very bone, taking off every single part that had the potential of being removable. (used a heated knife and/or scissors)
The result can be seen in the video, where literally less than 5 millimeters separate the fan blades from the highest point of the phone, being the camera.
I did mention "this particular kind of mod" as not only does it not involve any cutting into the cover nor holes, but also it is built with completely removable material eg: Double-sided duct-tape and double-sided Velcro.
That provides two advantages: a clean design obviously as the title suggests and the possibility to keep your case undamaged and unaltered by simply scratching off all the Velcro and duct-tape at some point in the future, if you decide to.
I haven't received the 8000mah extra battery (mentioned above) yet so I'll update on that at a later date. Although now I highly doubt it would fit with the two fans, if one keeps the protective cover unaltered.
One last piece of advice: a 4mm wide double-sided duct-tape on the back of the battery is a good trick to keep it well snugged in the phone, not suddenly falling down, and still keeps the battery easily removable later on with finger pressure.
Pictures down below, and a short video made just after I finished the project (ps: humming is from something playing on the laptop, the two spinning fans don't make any noise).
Link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXPEArWpgm0&feature=youtu.be
Shoot away your questions, I'll be happy to help!
This is my first attempt at any sort of DIY, and I'm glad it turned out just fine, and also happy I can give something back to this great community!
So much for trying to be brief ! Sorry !
Cheers.

Decided to get one

On sale (boxing week)
Only concerns are non-replaceable watch strap (they do wear out)
and buy now..... who knows the Google Watch maybe better.
..... there is always something better right around the corner.

AstroDigital said:
On sale (boxing week)
Only concerns are non-replaceable watch strap (they do wear out)
and buy now..... who knows the Google Watch maybe better.
..... there is always something better right around the corner.
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Replaceable watch strap is not always applicable. I love to wear stylish and trendy watches every year. I am crazy for watches.

RayLever said:
Replaceable watch strap is not always applicable. I love to wear stylish and trendy watches every year. I am crazy for watches.
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I think I may do the same, whenever it wears out I just may go to Amazon, Best Buy, or Google and get something new.

Just got one the other day. Just do like me, get the one with the silicon band. It's probably the best band for this watch cause it's very sweat resistant (i used the watch in the gym ....)

AstroDigital said:
On sale (boxing week)
Only concerns are non-replaceable watch strap (they do wear out)
and buy now..... who knows the Google Watch maybe better.
..... there is always something better right around the corner.
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Doh!! I didn't realize the strap was not replaceable. I couldn't imagine a watch being made like that. I wouldn't have bought one if I'd have done some research.

ewingr said:
Doh!! I didn't realize the strap was not replaceable. I couldn't imagine a watch being made like that. I wouldn't have bought one if I'd have done some research.
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The strap is replaceable...just none are available yet

ewingr said:
Doh!! I didn't realize the strap was not replaceable. I couldn't imagine a watch being made like that. I wouldn't have bought one if I'd have done some research.
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I was in touch with a reddit user, who was kind enough to share this with me:
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=cWtpeTZWb0N6bUpYOWRXbHVqMkticDdjNnZUZGF3
he cut his own 46mm strap down with an x-Acto knife and used a 15mm pin.
I hope this helps

HeroXth said:
I was in touch with a reddit user, who was kind enough to share this with me:
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=cWtpeTZWb0N6bUpYOWRXbHVqMkticDdjNnZUZGF3
he cut his own 46mm strap down with an x-Acto knife and used a 15mm pin.
I hope this helps
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I suspect that 46mm is a typo. Was it a 22mm?

TabGuy said:
I suspect that 46mm is a typo. Was it a 22mm?
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No it wasn't a typo, 22mm is probably the pin length not the strap length. 46mm straps will have the correct width you'd need to cut down, smaller straps likely won't fit the lugs very well and will probably just fall out.

HeroXth said:
No it wasn't a typo, 22mm is probably the pin length not the strap length. 46mm straps will have the correct width you'd need to cut down, smaller straps likely won't fit the lugs very well and will probably just fall out.
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Now I'm confused. 46mm is just under 2 inches. That can't be the length of the watchband as that would barely fit around my thumb. And it can't be the width as it would be more than twice as wide as the existing strap. What am I not understanding?

My bad.. Get a strap for a 46mm watch.
22-24mm should be the strap's width