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So I'm about to get a Nexus 7 for Christmas, my other android device is the Tmobile LG G2x which I had since it was first released.
Anyway, I came to the Nexus 7 forum to read up on my upcoming device, lo and behold I see threads about tiny miniscule flaws like screen lift, screen flicker, crackling speakers when the volume is turned up etc. and many new owners returning their "flawed" devices in for a "perfect" one.
This gave me flashbacks of how it all started for the LG G2X. A lot of people found "imperfections" with the device and blew it totally out of proportion, and because one person posted a thread on what he percieved as a flaw, everyone else started to succumb to the power of suggestion and noticed these "awful flaws" too, and decided they were gonna return it in hopes of getting a "perfect" one.
We all know how this turned out. LG G2X started to get a bad reputation, even though it's still one of the best most powerful dual cores out. It was well ahead of it's time when it was released and had huge potential, but all the so called "flaws" brought prospective buyers to google the G2X only to find links to threads of "my G2x has this and that flaw", persuading people to think G2x was an inferior product when actually, those reported flaws were over exaggerated, just so the owners could return it for a "perfect" one.
My point is, how can you justify returning a brand new, mint condition, Nexus 7 just because you feel a .000001 mm screen lift to the left side? or because you turn up the volume on the speaker and hear some crackling because you're about to blow the speaker when you can just lower the volume?
I've worked retail before, and when customers return a product claiming it's defective, the store writes it up as one, get's full credit for the product and even though it's 100% functional and flawless they are required to trash the product. Imagine how much money you'll make ASUS or Google lose and then they'll cut their losses and withdraw support for a great product, just like what happened to the G2X.
Come on people, don't go looking for flaws where there are none....
Totally true!
And of course it's also the fact that no body opens a thread to say "my n7 is working perfectly"
In my case, my N7 it's perfect and have never noticed one of those "flaws". The only thing, truth be told, it's that the speakers are "weak" in comparison with other devices, but that's not a flaw, it's a characteristic. Saying it's a flaw is like saying that the camera is a flaw because it's not an 8mp HD video recorder cam.
People should enjoy the devices instead to go looking things to complaint about
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I agree, i just noticed i have a screen lift on the let side and so does my friend. I pushed it back in and everything's fine. Its so minor (literally less then 0,2mm) that I really couldn't be bothered to go trough warranty for it (I also got it as a gift from UK and it would take months to get a new one). I had a screen lift on my previous Galaxy Spica, that was some screen lift it was well over the housing, it was annoying, but it didn't affect the touchscreen.
Also the speaker is small, I haven't had a device that wouldn't crack at high volumes, its not made for that. Again, if you're not happy, spend twice the amount of money for iPad. People forget that this is very cheap device for its performance and of course it comes at the cost.
I really like my N7 its fast and light. If you're thinking of getting one do so, don't let perfectionists with light case of OCD change your mind.
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This gave me flashbacks of how it all started for the LG G2X. A lot of people found "imperfections" with the device and blew it totally out of proportion, and because one person posted a thread on what he percieved as a flaw, everyone else started to succumb to the power of suggestion and noticed these "awful flaws" too, and decided they were gonna return it in hopes of getting a "perfect" one.
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i know exactly where your coming from.. idk too much about the g2x but my phone is a lg spectrum... first and last lg ill ever buy.. build quality is horrible... the one im using now is my 5th replacement.. the first only got data signal.. wouldnt call or text... the rest have all had bleeding on the edges of the screen.. plus lg and vzw tortured us about the ics update.
ive had my nexus 7 for a couple weeks now and i love it.. my only dislikes are no sd. and the fact that 4.1 and 4.2 put your files in different places.. other than that.. my N7 is the best device ive ever owned
Yeah. Another device where (especially initially after launch) bad user reports or bad reviews blew a bad rep out of proportion is the Acer A700. I have the device, and it's a really fine, really good working device with a gorgeous screen and great connectivity. Show me another device that - for 399 Euros! - offers that much!
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My point is, how can you justify returning a brand new, mint condition, Nexus 7 just because you feel a .000001 mm screen lift to the left side? or because you turn up the volume on the speaker and hear some crackling because you're about to blow the speaker when you can just lower the volume?
I've worked retail before, and when customers return a product claiming it's defective, the store writes it up as one, get's full credit for the product and even though it's 100% functional and flawless they are required to trash the product. Imagine how much money you'll make ASUS or Google lose and then they'll cut their losses and withdraw support for a great product, just like what happened to the G2X.
Come on people, don't go looking for flaws where there are none....
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I' m not sure about screen lift (don't have one) or crackling speakers (don't really care about built-in speakers). But I'm sure that screen flicker is a rather annoying issue, and it's bad for your eyes, too. This is like looking at an old CRT monitor @60hz, or even worse.
Actually, I do everything I can to keep the device. I've already bought Nvidia Prism toggle and Lux auto-brightness, none of which helped the issue. I also had to root and re-install my brand new tablet just to try these apps.
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The software of the G2x was a train wreck. Random reboots galore made the device almost unusable without a custom rom.
Nothing like the G2x IMHO.
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The software of the G2x was a train wreck. Random reboots galore made the device almost unusable without a custom rom.
Nothing like the G2x IMHO.
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Yep, quite a few issues on the software end, not so much hardware which is rare as a lot of LG products don't last hardware wise.
I do understand where you are coming from though OP. PERFECT N7 here!
Sent from a galaxy far away!
+1 on a "Practically Perfect In Every Way" Nexus 7 here.
Only things that make it imperfect is actually the software and not being able to run Java with Android....
Hardware it is "Practically Perfect In Every Way" aside from missing a rear facing camera....oh wait, I have a Nikon DSLR for that job.....
Glad to be rid of my O2X. The Galaxy S2 craps on it, nice thin form factor and not a chunky brick like the 2x.
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I agree with the whole over exaggerating minor flaws, but comparing the nexus 7 to the g2x not so much.
I had a g2x and actually sold it and went back to using my single core galaxy s 4g because the g2x was far too unreliable to use as a phone.
I now have a 32gb nexus 7 (flawless) and a gsm galaxy nexus and love both of them. Sure my gnex has a bit of purple tint at minimum brightness, but I would of just thought that's how the screen is if not for all the complaints.
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Perfect example of horrible support and bad rumors killing a great phone. Hardware was the best of its time but crippled by premature software.
Seriously though, it was pretty bad.
I can't even remember anything bad about it except it had screen bleed... and its bad software.
LG blamed Nvidia but Asus didn't have a problem keeping my Tegra 2 Transformer updated like twice a week. It had more software updates then Google's own Xoom.
Damn LG. I'm still iffy about LG devices that require updates.
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So I'm about to get a Nexus 7 for Christmas, my other android device is the Tmobile LG G2x which I had since it was first released.
Anyway, I came to the Nexus 7 forum to read up on my upcoming device, lo and behold I see threads about tiny miniscule flaws like screen lift, screen flicker, crackling speakers when the volume is turned up etc. and many new owners returning their "flawed" devices in for a "perfect" one.
This gave me flashbacks of how it all started for the LG G2X. A lot of people found "imperfections" with the device and blew it totally out of proportion, and because one person posted a thread on what he percieved as a flaw, everyone else started to succumb to the power of suggestion and noticed these "awful flaws" too, and decided they were gonna return it in hopes of getting a "perfect" one.
We all know how this turned out. LG G2X started to get a bad reputation, even though it's still one of the best most powerful dual cores out. It was well ahead of it's time when it was released and had huge potential, but all the so called "flaws" brought prospective buyers to google the G2X only to find links to threads of "my G2x has this and that flaw", persuading people to think G2x was an inferior product when actually, those reported flaws were over exaggerated, just so the owners could return it for a "perfect" one.
My point is, how can you justify returning a brand new, mint condition, Nexus 7 just because you feel a .000001 mm screen lift to the left side? or because you turn up the volume on the speaker and hear some crackling because you're about to blow the speaker when you can just lower the volume?
I've worked retail before, and when customers return a product claiming it's defective, the store writes it up as one, get's full credit for the product and even though it's 100% functional and flawless they are required to trash the product. Imagine how much money you'll make ASUS or Google lose and then they'll cut their losses and withdraw support for a great product, just like what happened to the G2X.
Come on people, don't go looking for flaws where there are none....
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I had a g2x and it was fine and even better with a custom ROM it could play any game and most games if not all were compatible but it was that phone that made me a flashaholic and we all know what happened all the developers got a galaxy nexus or galaxy s2 and we were left with settling for no longer updated GB Roms or the broken ics roms, I tried to learn how to build Roms but too hard for me, the nexus 7 on other hand I went through 2 before finding lucky number 3 without a major screen lift trust me the first was a moderate squeak when touching the lifted side then the second one was extremely bad and my third one was very light not even there really but overall I loved the device from the beginning to keep it instead of getting a refund
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Totally agree. Mine has backlight bleed but I really don't notice till the screen is totally black and still it minimal. I too have a g2x and loved it. But now because support is dropped for it it sucks a bit because everyone returned it and now things like Bluetooth and SOD because LG did a half assed update to shut ppl up. I figured out how to stop the SOD and don't really use Bluetooth often anyway (it does work in stock but I don't care to go back). Sorry form the bad typing its 4am here and I havnt slept yet lol
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While I can appreciate the OP's intention, I would have to respectfully disagree with his method of thinking.
The reality is many electronic devices have legitimate defects. To say that we should not discuss them or post threads about them is asinine IMO.
I feel this way for two reasons:
1. The user base on XDA is a fraction of the general public. And a minute fraction at that. To insinuate that a few overzealous posts could possibly hurt a giant conglomerate's business (all of these companies are huge in both the cellular and other markets, with the exception of a few smaller companies) is amusing. There is no way people discussing the flaws of the Nexus 7 is going to "hurt" Asus or Google. There is even less negative effect on companies like LG or Samsung because they are in so many markets.
2. Considering the above, the very small impact that these product criticisms have are needed to show mfg's that we are paying attention to the product quality, even if they aren't. In addition, we are going to raise awareness to others who may/may not purchase their product(s), and it may even end up in an Android news blog. This tells them that they can't just shove crap down our throats and expect us to praise them like some idiotic fan boy. This is needed to force them to adhere to stricter quality standards.
Just my two cents. Btw I love my Nexus 7. Carry on...
I think the issue, as the above post says, Is definitely a QC issue. Asus's motto is "Persistent perfection" which I have pointed out to the Asus techs in the service center here in Taiwan many times :victory: as I have brought in the various failed devices they have sold me over the years. I would like to take this argument to the next logical step. The screen lift at the outset means that the frame and screen are not joined correctly. The posts I've read say the bonding surface is only 2mm wide. This means that the device will likely have much worse separation issues as it ages. Yes, these gadgets weren't built to last millennia, only the life of their battery, which should be around two years. Two years wear and tear, a few drops later, will this device become unusable? Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you...Live by the sword, die by the sword, etc.
Agreed with this thread entirely. The Nexus 7 did endure some teething issues than cannot be denied (my original n7's screen had a constant grey wash over the screen i.e. blacks displayed as light grey :good But I had a great RMA process and my replacement has been perfect ever since.
The N7 did have screen lift but it was revised with revisions. In the early models it was prevalent because of the way it was manufactured.
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The N7 did have screen lift but it was revised with revisions. In the early models it was prevalent because of the way it was manufactured.
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No need for the italics
Just my 2 cents here but I can't agree with this thread.
If a company is producing inferior quality products then the market will punish them for that, and rightly so. People pay hard earned cash for these products and if they rattle or have screen lift they are well within their rights to complain and return (the reason we have warranties) the product.
(I have a Nexus 7 and it's perfect btw)
This is one of the reasons Apple is a revered brand name among so many people, their pursuit of quality.
However I don't think the Nexus falls into the above category, it just had some teething problems. Also, judging by how hard it was for me to find one in stock there's no worry about it falling foul with customers.
I preordered this phone and waited a call from the network. Very much excited and had a call from 3 UK that my handset is ready for collection on 28th. Had been to stores to collect. I went around 9.30am still no sight of anyone other than me. I was the first one to collect the device from that stores. Collected both Free headphones and device. Could not even wait to open the device.
I explored the device and upset with disappointments. There are plenty of review hence I don't want to repeat/reproduce the same. I am just sharing my views,
1. Screen resolution is not as dreamt. I feel Nexus 4 IPS screen is far better than this Sony screen resolution.
2. Poor ergonomics. Soft keyboard locates nearly to the centre of the screen taking and soft keys are taking too much of display real estate.
3. Smudges and finger prints on the screen and not easy to get rid of by just wiping. It reminds me of the iPhone 3G. I doubt whether it has oleophobic screen. The same is the case on both front and back sides.
4. Network phones (contract phones) has no unlockable bootloader and controls our freedom from rooting.
5. Sharp corners (unlike S3 or Nexus 4) and looks big.
Because of many reasons including the above I used this device only for a day and replaced with Nexus 4. Very happy with Nexus 4 with compromise of limited onboard memory (16gb)
Has anyone feel the same?
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So you like your Z?
"Swyped" From My X10Mini Running SevenBean Stable3
So you opened a new thread just for mindless ranting? You already have a new phone, so what's the point? You think you're going to get some form of sympathy, or a "there there" pat on the head?
I want to question this guy is from Slough based on his English. I mean come on.
Yet another pointless spam thread that looks like viral marketing from a competitor.
Damn I love this phone. I came from iPhone 3gs, iPhone 4, and iPhone 5. I've played with samsung before and they are nothing compared to this phone.
The samsung design are cheap, boring and ugly.
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Oh hell yeah!
No need to rant here. If you don't like Z buy SGS3 or N4.
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Hey all,
I recently picked up a Note 3 but I'm really unhappy with Samsung's interface and layout of it's hardware buttons and so I'm think of returning it and getting something else. The HTC One has always been appealing but I was a not fan of it's lack of external storage and small battery. I recently found out about the Butterfly S and it seems to address of the issues that I had with the One. I'm a big fan of HTC's interface and so I'm wondering if still makes sense to buy a Snapdragon 600 device now the SD800 devices are on the market. I know specs aren't everything as I have gone back to my Nexus 4 and even tho that device is way lower spec'd than the Note 3 it performs a whole lot better. I'm not a big phone gamer and I mainly use my device to surf the web, read twitter, watch videos and read comics. Mainly I want to know how smooth is the interface(is it as good the Nexus 4) and how good is the battery life? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
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Hey all,
I recently picked up a Note 3 but I'm really unhappy with Samsung's interface and layout of it's hardware buttons and so I'm think of returning it and getting something else. The HTC One has always been appealing but I was a not fan of it's lack of external storage and small battery. I recently found out about the Butterfly S and it seems to address of the issues that I had with the One. I'm a big fan of HTC's interface and so I'm wondering if still makes sense to buy a Snapdragon 600 device now the SD800 devices are on the market. I know specs aren't everything as I have gone back to my Nexus 4 and even tho that device is way lower spec'd than the Note 3 it performs a whole lot better. I'm not a big phone gamer and I mainly use my device to surf the web, read twitter, watch videos and read comics. Mainly I want to know how smooth is the interface(is it as good the Nexus 4) and how good is the battery life? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
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My opinion is, by all means, go for it. The Butterfly S is a phone I'm genuinely happy with. The interface is really smooth (I only noticed a lag about two times in the whole time I've been using it) and the battery is fantastic, also refer to this thread. (My experience is that it lasts two days of medium usage and I still have about 30% left at the end of the second day.)
Anyway, it's up to you. If you like to buy a new phone every few months when a new phone is hyped up, it may be too late. Myself, I'm not comfortable shelling out hundreds of euros every month on a new phone just because it's newer and has better specs, I tend to buy a gadget (phone, laptop) and then use it for two or three years, until it gets really cumbersome. For me, the Butterfly S was almost certainly the best option at the time when I bought it.
So, all in all, if you like to switch to a new plaything often, it's probably late for you. If you intend to stick to your phone, you can't go wrong with this one.
i fully agree with koniiiik, there are just a few phones like the Butterfly S, unless you want an even bigger screen of course.
LG G2 - looks nice, snapdragon 800 and all, but i dont trust LG because of previous experience (lack of updates, had to return one phone SEVEN times for them to fix it).
Samsung Galaxy S4 - doesnt have the stamina of the Butterfly S and i prefer the Super LCD 3 screen of the Butterfly S.
Sony Xperia Z1 - very nice build quality, great screen and camera, also has the Snapdragon 800, i didnt want to wait for this phone though.
a friend of mine got one so have been able to try it, what i really dont like is how it feels in the hand, the Butterfly S feels more natural, even though its thicker.
actually, the thinness of the Z1 makes it harder to pick the phone up from the table, the BS is way easier to pick up.
and last, the Z1 is waterproof, thats nice, but also means all ports are closed with small covers, means you have to pry open the usb port to charge it, unless you buy a cradle.
LG Optimus G Pro - see G2
and none of them have the front stereo speeakers, a feature i think all phones should have
Thanks for the feedback guys. I think I'm going to jump on board.
the only reason not to buy this is the price, its quite a bit more expensive than the Z1 or S4
and ofcourse you'll have to import it if you don't live in Asia, so you probably will have to pay import tax
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the only reason not to buy this is the price, its quite a bit more expensive than the Z1 or S4
and ofcourse you'll have to import it if you don't live in Asia, so you probably will have to pay import tax
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Yeah the price is a bit high but I currently have no interest in anything that Samsung is pushing and the Z1 I heard has poor battery life and screen view angles.
i'm amazed the angles of the Z1 screen are so poor, with all the know-how Sony has put into it
and i really dont like how it feels in the hand, it doesnt feel natural, like the BS
the Z1 is only 3,5mm wider but you can really feel the difference
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i'm amazed the angles of the Z1 screen are so poor, with all the know-how Sony has put into it
and i really dont like how it feels in the hand, it doesnt feel natural, like the BS
the Z1 is only 3,5mm wider but you can really feel the difference
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Yeah the angles on the Z1 have been a big disappointment and you would think Sony of all companies would get the screen right.
I came from an Xperia Z. Horrid phone. I was just giving Sony a shot and I realize that they're exactly where they were 3 years ago. The only things that they can do are bump up the hardware, put flaps over all the ports and submerge their devices inside water tanks for show. Otherwise, they've got nothing else going for them.
My answer is yes. Get this device. You won't regret it.
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I was a BlackBerry user for the past few years and using HTC Butterfly S was perhaps the best choice mobile device I had made... enjoying it, not just because it is Android but rather of its GUI, Sense 5, battery life, expandable storage and bigger screen. Go get this device... unless like what many others said, you just want to swtich device as and when better specs come.
I also think this is the best phone ever this is a complete device i no longer have to look for a device until the next year or more. How i know this is a great device? Lol i have flashed roms but i am now back to stock and rooted and enjoying it so that should tell u something it is a monster out of the box
i dont feel the need for a different rom either, the only thing it really needed was Nova Launcher, home screens on Sense aren't customizable enough, now its perfect
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i dont feel the need for a different rom either, the only thing it really needed was Nova Launcher, home screens on Sense aren't customizable enough, now its perfect
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What customization were u looking for?
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I wanted to relocate BlinkFeed, sadly you can't have BlinkFeed on any other homescreen besides Sense. Then again, i have BlinkFeed as a shortcut, but i don't really use it, so now i don't mind that didnt work out.
But i also didn't like the app drawer and more importantly, the number of icons per screen. Now i can have 4x5 icons per screen, that is something you should be able to set in any homescreen, maybe Sense 5.5 will have this...
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I wanted to relocate BlinkFeed, sadly you can't have BlinkFeed on any other homescreen besides Sense. Then again, i have BlinkFeed as a shortcut, but i don't really use it, so now i don't mind that didnt work out.
But i also didn't like the app drawer and more importantly, the number of icons per screen. Now i can have 4x5 icons per screen, that is something you should be able to set in any homescreen, maybe Sense 5.5 will have this...
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U can set it to that
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nope, you can set the grid size for the app launcher, but not the number of icons per screen
I got my phone today and I really happy with it so far. The only that notice is that I'm getting some odd static feedback when using headphones. Is this happening for anyone else? If so how did you fix it? I have tried 3 different headphones and all are the same.
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After inspecting the jack I notice that a tiny bit of the plastic inside the jack is broken. I'm hoping Negri will be able to repair or replace it.
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I got my phone today and I really happy with it so far. The only that notice is that I'm getting some odd static feedback when using headphones. Is this happening for anyone else? If so how did you fix it? I have tried 3 different headphones and all are the same.
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After inspecting the jack I notice that a tiny bit of the plastic inside the jack is broken. I'm hoping Negri will be able to repair or replace it.
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Datafiend said:
I got my phone today and I really happy with it so far. The only that notice is that I'm getting some odd static feedback when using headphones. Is this happening for anyone else? If so how did you fix it? I have tried 3 different headphones and all are the same.
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After inspecting the jack I notice that a tiny bit of the plastic inside the jack is broken. I'm hoping Negri will be able to repair or replace it.
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Were all headphones you tried in-ear? With in-ear headphones you may get some hiss and CPU noise, and possibly crackling with bass at highest volumes (not everyone has this problem but I have it =/). If you use high impedance over-ear headphones the hiss is almost inaudible..
The first time you use a headphone (especially one with mic input - 3 black bands on the plug) on the Butterfly s you might get some static if you spin the headphone plug, but it will go away.
To answer the question of this thread, I still think it makes sense to get one. HTC's last high-end phone with 3 buttons, future phones will only have 2 buttons and a lot of people don't like that. Unfortunately I am not sure how well HTC will be supporting updates but considering it is mostly an Asia-only product I will likely be updated faster. I really hope to see Kit-Kat on it at the least...
Yeah it has pretty much gone away. Like you said I still get static when I twist the plug in the jack. I guess I'm going to need to pick up a mic free headset. It still blows tho. I have never had this on any other phone. Other than that, this phone is fantastic.
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This thread probably infuriate some (Sam fans) and be informative for others. Help people perhaps decide whether to buy or not.
I'm sick of touchwiz it lags and ugly. Probably worse the. Lg's ui. A phone which spec wise packs so much can't handle it's own ui.:silly:
How many people feel that's true?
Samsung are losing market share due to them not listening to their customers. Samsung need to switch back on and start reacting to consumer demands. Plastic is not appealing anymore. I hear the argument "need plastic back for removal battery" well people you don't need it to be ugly. More then one way to remove battery.
Get rid of the ugly design with plastic back, take a leaf out Htcs book.
Get rid of the stupid gimmicky software which perhaps a vey small percentage of people use.
I'm going for nexus 6 and not keeping my note 4 because it's slow and hate the ui.
Not true. I don't have any lags, work smoothly. Camera is amazing i really enjoy. If you don't like touchwiz you can always use other app like Nova. You buy note 4 or you opinion is only bubbles..?
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This thread probably infuriate some (Sam fans) and be informative for others. Help people perhaps decide whether to buy or not.
I'm sick of touchwiz it lags and ugly. Probably worse the. Lg's ui. A phone which spec wise packs so much can't handle it's own ui.:silly:
How many people feel that's true?
Samsung are losing market share due to them not listening to their customers. Samsung need to switch back on and start reacting to consumer demands. Plastic is not appealing anymore. I hear the argument "need plastic back for removal battery" well people you don't need it to be ugly. More then one way to remove battery.
Get rid of the ugly design with plastic back, take a leaf out Htcs book.
Get rid of the stupid gimmicky software which perhaps a vey small percentage of people use.
I'm going for nexus 6 and not keeping my note 4 because it's slow and hate the ui.
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why do u think this will help other people decide? just 'cause a ferrari came with a defective engine doesnt mean everyone should stop buying them..if u hate touchwiz so much then why'd u end up purchasing the note 4? samsung are losing costumers as well as apple and htc..costumers come and go..and the note 4 isnt plastic..it has a metal body
I'm not sure that the Note serie is responsible of Samsung loosing consumers. In fact, a recent poll on Phonearena shows that more than 81% of people think that the Note 4 is the best large-screen on the market right now.
Maybe the GS5 was disappointing and an update hard to justify but IMO, that's not why Samsung looses consumers.
There is more competition now and newee phones simply aren't big upgrade anymore (except iPhone 6/6+ for last-gen iPhone owners).
With a lot of manufacturers that sell high-end phones for 400$, It's harder to sell with a price tag of more than 650$.
As I remember, only low-cost company gain market shares recently.
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why do u think this will help other people decide? just 'cause a ferrari came with a defective engine doesnt mean everyone should stop buying them..if u hate touchwiz so much then why'd u end up purchasing the note 4? samsung are losing costumers as well as apple and htc..costumers come and go..and the note 4 isnt plastic..it has a metal body
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Seriously dude look at iPhone 6 plus it's a massive hit. It's outselling every other phone in the market and I'm not an apple fan but android.
Back in the day there was only one phablet which was the note but now you have more choice which is why people are not buying the note 4.
Spec wise samsung should be doing much better as far as performance is concerned but in really use the iPhone is better. Take the finger print sensor, on the iPhone it works seamlessly every time as it should On the note 4 well it's hit and miss.
Samsung is like a horse which has been overloaded and it shows.
With nexus 6 being made available shortly samsung will lose more customers.
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I'm not sure that the Note serie is responsible of Samsung loosing consumers. In fact, a recent poll on Phonearena shows that more than 81% of people think that the Note 4 is the best large-screen on the market right now.
Maybe the GS5 was disappointing and an update hard to justify but IMO, that's not why Samsung looses consumers.
There is more competition now and newee phones simply aren't big upgrade anymore (except iPhone 6/6+ for last-gen iPhone owners).
With a lot of manufacturers that sell high-end phones for 400$, It's harder to sell with a price tag of more than 650$.
As I remember, only low-cost company gain market shares recently.
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These are valid arguments, s5 was a big let down which has put off many people.
Yes low cost pomes are taking a chunk of the market but I think most who buy them are probably disappointed.
I've been saying this since S4 was launched that samsung eventually will lose consumers if they carry in with the cheap plastic look and touchwiz, see my earlier posts. Samsung have been vey slow in reacting and are laying out daily, same mistake Htc made. I think the next phone samsung launch will address the plastic and touchwiz issue, unless they are still,asleep.
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Seriously dude look at iPhone 6 plus it's a massive hit. It's outselling every other phone in the market and I'm not an apple fan but android.
Back in the day there was only one phablet which was the note but now you have more choice which is why people are not buying the note 4.
Spec wise samsung should be doing much better as far as performance is concerned but in really use the iPhone is better. Take the finger print sensor, on the iPhone it works seamlessly every time as it should On the note 4 well it's hit and miss.
Samsung is like a horse which has been overloaded and it shows.
With nexus 6 being made available shortly samsung will lose more customers.
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Year to year, in september, Apple's market shares are down. According to Kantar's analysis, the only market they are gaining market share year to year is EU5 where Apple is already very low (less than 15% market share).
Nexus 6 will certainly not sell very well if Google doesn't invest in marketing. None of the Nexus was a massive success to date. They sell well in a nich market of tech savvy.
Chinese brands, in the other hand, gain market share very fast (Xiaomi growth by 267% year to year if I remember correctly. When the market is only 26% larger).
Businesses and marketshare will go up and down in cycles, in a year or two numbers will rise again. This is normal behaviour to have these fluctuations as demand for products vary from time to time. It's a long time since Apple had a steady flow, they also suffer from fluctuations in their marketshare and product sales figures.
I'm not worried about this temporary setback for Samsung, they have a massive amount of money and electronics is not their main source of income.
/ Magnus
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Seriously dude look at iPhone 6 plus it's a massive hit. It's outselling every other phone in the market and I'm not an apple fan but android.
Back in the day there was only one phablet which was the note but now you have more choice which is why people are not buying the note 4.
Spec wise samsung should be doing much better as far as performance is concerned but in really use the iPhone is better. Take the finger print sensor, on the iPhone it works seamlessly every time as it should On the note 4 well it's hit and miss.
Samsung is like a horse which has been overloaded and it shows.
With nexus 6 being made available shortly samsung will lose more customers.
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You say people are not buying the Note 4 yet Samsungs recent quarterly results reflected that they have sold more phones and the Note 4 is already a major contributor, confirmed by Samsung's VP.
If you are going to make bold claims please stick to facts.
FYI: according to Kantar, Apple continue to lose marketshare globally, including in the USA:
http://www.mobileburn.com/23718/news/apple-loses-us-market-share-despite-record-sales
iPad also losing share to Samsung:
http://mblog.gsmarena.com/idc-samsung-nears-apple-tablet-shipments-market-climbs-11-5-q3-2014/
Dont like the plastic back? Just buy a metal back. PROBLEM SOLVED.
I really hope Samsung doesnt make a metal unibody for the Note 5, like the recent ugly HTC and Apple phones that look like someone shat the 1980s expectations of 2010 "scifi tech" through a douchefactory. I hope they stick to removable back, because then you can CHOOSE to have an easily scratched slippery ugly metal back or a grippy durable nice plastic back.
I dont find ANY gimmicky software on my Note 4. I find gimmicky hardware though, like the heartrate sensor and UV sensor. What exactly do you think is gimmicky software on the Note 4?
riz157 said:
This thread probably infuriate some (Sam fans) and be informative for others. Help people perhaps decide whether to buy or not.
I'm sick of touchwiz it lags and ugly. Probably worse the. Lg's ui. A phone which spec wise packs so much can't handle it's own ui.:silly:
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You did not share any information, you merely stated your opinion.
riz157 said:
Plastic is not appealing anymore. I hear the argument "need plastic back for removal battery" well people you don't need it to be ugly. More then one way to remove battery.
Get rid of the ugly design with plastic back, take a leaf out Htcs book.
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I happen to like plastic and I like the feel of the Note 4's battery cover. And I hate the look of most HTC phones. And by that I mean to say, that it all boils down to personal preferences and individual taste.
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Get rid of the stupid gimmicky software which perhaps a vey small percentage of people use.
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I doubt that a "vey small percentage of people" uses the camera, or the S-Note. I am sure quite a few people are using multiwindow, the ultra power saving mode, and so on. All these are part of Touchwiz.
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I'm going for nexus 6 and not keeping my note 4 because it's slow and hate the ui.
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Don't let the door hit you on the way out! Kidding!
I am sure there are people out there that feel the same way as you. But you need to accept that there are also people who don't. Cheers!
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Do get a bit of lag, nothing major though. The messaging app was especially lagging for me, but that was easily fixed by replacing it with a 3rd party app. I'm finding a lot of the features to be very useful actually, not gimmicky at all, one-handed mode, ultra power saving, download booster, all the S pen features. The back is nothing amazing but doesn't look cheap until you take it off, would be keeping it hidden under a case anyway, so again not much of a problem. The positives far outweigh the negatives for me.
I like the note 4 design and feel, especially the fake leather back. More than my old HTC m8.
And regarding touchwiz, only lag I have is the recent apps button.
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I'm not a fan of touchwiz, but my phone has basically been lag free. With the only exception being the recent apps button. However, my G3 had the same recent apps button lag so it's not only a Samsung thing.
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this is no place for iphones 6 plus and hey did someone forgot the bendgate allready ??
i hope you remember what that uni body piece of aluminium is capable of... enough said
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I'm not a fan of touchwiz, but my phone has basically been lag free. With the only exception being the recent apps button. However, my G3 had the same recent apps button lag so it's not only a Samsung thing.
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I attribute it to the fact that the phone might be waiting for a long press to pop up the menu.
No lag on my unit...Bard's tale~2gb game runs smooth even on power saving mode(so do all the other games/apps I run, just pointed this out due to its size)..So I am a satisfied customer Samsung,,
Yes, I do agree that touchwiz can be a little lightweight and polished..but its way better than what it used to be!
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I attribute it to the fact that the phone might be waiting for a long press to pop up the menu.
No lag on my unit...Bard's tale~2gb game runs smooth even on power saving mode(so do all the other games/apps are run, just pointed this out due to its size)..So I am a satisfied customer Samsung,,
Bu I do agree that touchwiz can be a little lightweight and polished..but its way better than what it used to be!
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thats very well said...as for the customers demand samsung has metal bands around , so soon enough will be the light touchwiz
i disagree to the saying that samsung dsnt listens to their customers, they do it
i have never seen tim cook talking to each and everyone ,"hey what do you want in your iphone".....
riz157 said:
This thread probably infuriate some (Sam fans) and be informative for others. Help people perhaps decide whether to buy or not.
I'm sick of touchwiz it lags and ugly. Probably worse the. Lg's ui. A phone which spec wise packs so much can't handle it's own ui.:silly:
How many people feel that's true?
Samsung are losing market share due to them not listening to their customers. Samsung need to switch back on and start reacting to consumer demands. Plastic is not appealing anymore. I hear the argument "need plastic back for removal battery" well people you don't need it to be ugly. More then one way to remove battery.
Get rid of the ugly design with plastic back, take a leaf out Htcs book.
Get rid of the stupid gimmicky software which perhaps a vey small percentage of people use.
I'm going for nexus 6 and not keeping my note 4 because it's slow and hate the ui.
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Your statements are opinions, based on taste or preference no facts. I do agree with you on the lag issues, I do feel like TouchWiz is a hindrance and that it's not very appealing. However a lot of people love TouchWiz. You saying that Samsung doesn't listen to us doesn't compute though if they didn't listen and try to anticipate our needs they wouldn't have a gazillion device's.
That being said the millions they spend on developing and advertising so many devices coupled with their pricing and the emergence of Chinese phone companies like Xiaomi and Oppo to name a few are a reason why they're not fairing better. You can't be the king forever. Samsung is still doing fine the market has changed.
As far as looks are concerned I find the note 4 gorgeous. My opinion. I agree with you on the useless hardware and software part and firmly believe that Samsung phones should come out with stock Android on their own framework and put all their bloatware in their app store like they did with their extra camera modes. But again, that's my opinion.
I decided to ditch Samsung after the s5 I felt that them offering the same phone for what was arguably the 3rd time was a slap in the face but the note 4 is in a league of its own and that's why I'm giving them another chance.
riz157 said:
I'm sick of touchwiz it lags and ugly. Probably worse the. Lg's ui. A phone which spec wise packs so much can't handle it's own ui.
How many people feel that's true?
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I'm not denying that TouchWiz isn't lagging, but the fact that you think TouchWiz is the only thing that lags makes this much more bad for you. Infact, iOS even lags to. Here, let me show you some evidences on that. Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY-KuPhC0Y0
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Samsung are losing market share due to them not listening to their customers.
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No, they are losing market share because other manufacturers are making better and better phones that is selling better and better. This just forces Samsung to make even better phones, like they did with the Galaxy Note 4, which is just positive.
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Samsung need to switch back on and start reacting to consumer demands.
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Like they did with the Samsung Galaxy Note 4?
Samsung just made the best phablet phone in the world. Samsung was the manufacturer that did set the standard for what a phablet is and should be. And they are still the king of that category.
riz157 said:
Plastic is not appealing anymore. I hear the argument "need plastic back for removal battery" well people you don't need it to be ugly. More then one way to remove battery.
Get rid of the ugly design with plastic back, take a leaf out Htcs book.
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No thanks. We don't want slippery aluminum that makes us risking our phones to fall down on the ground / asphalt which also makes the phone looks butt ugly with dents and scratches all over the places. I'll rather have a Polycarbonate backcover with this fake leather over the polycarbonate plastic just because it gives us a pretty good grip on the phone. Have you ever tried to use an iPhone 6 Plus with one hand without feeling that you are about to miss it down to the ground / floor?
Try it and you will realize why we want Polycarbonate backcovers with fake leather over it.
Not only that, but the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 looks waaaaay better than the iPhone 6 Plus and HTC One M8 combined.
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Get rid of the stupid gimmicky software which perhaps a vey small percentage of people use.
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It's pretty clear that you don't understand the whole meaning of the Note series. The TouchWiz features is what makes the Galaxy Note phablets to be the ultimate phablets they are today. Look at the iPhone 6 Plus. It's just an oversized iPhone 6 meant for HUUUUUGE peoples. You don't gain anything with the iPhone 6 Plus over the iPhone 6 except for the landscape thing in some apps.
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I'm going for nexus 6 and not keeping my note 4 because it's slow and hate the ui.
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Good for you. Nexus 6 is a good phone, i'm not denying that. But what can the Nexus 6 do that the Nexus 5 can't do except for having a bigger screen?
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Seriously dude look at iPhone 6 plus it's a massive hit. It's outselling every other phone in the market and I'm not an apple fan but android.
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It's a massive hit because of good marketing and overhyping in the media. Anyways, who gives a damn about that when you see that Android worldwide have a massive marketshare of 84%. iOS have a lil 12%. When we are looking at that stats worldwide, then wo cares about iOS anymore then?
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Back in the day there was only one phablet which was the note but now you have more choice which is why people are not buying the note 4.
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A Nexus 6 or an iPhone 6 Plus is not even considered a real phablet. Just having an oversized iPhone 6 with no new things except for some lame landscape mode isn't even taken as a threath to the Galaxy Note 4. if you are going to create a phablet, then make sure to use the screen size to something usefull.
A Nexus 6 is just the same as the Nexus 5 with just better specs. That's it.
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Spec wise samsung should be doing much better as far as performance is concerned but in really use the iPhone is better. Take the finger print sensor, on the iPhone it works seamlessly every time as it should On the note 4 well it's hit and miss.
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Here is a clue for you. Even though the Touch ID on the iPhone 6 / 6 Plus is more easy to use, you are far from being any more secure with it over Samsung's fingerprint scanner. Because when you use the Touch ID, you are just pressing directly on top of the Touch ID button, which leaves your fingerprint completely available to anyone who manages to steal your iPhone. With Samsung's fingerprint scanner, you have to swipe to get it to work. That means that you are actually swiping away your fingerprint on the fingerprint scanner on the home button. So those who steals your phone is going to have a really hard time to figure out the fingerprint then.
I'll rather take more security over a little easier usage.
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Samsung is like a horse which has been overloaded and it shows.
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Samsung and TouchWiz as it is on the Galaxy Note 4 is all fine. The only thing i will say though is that Samsung needs to refresh it's color scheme and update it's icons in TouchWiz, so things can look better. There haven't been much changes on Samsung's icons since Samsung Galaxy S2 came out for the most part. But for the functionality and what TouchWiz is capable of doing, it's there to stay and it's there to be used.
riz157 said:
With nexus 6 being made available shortly samsung will lose more customers.
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An oversized Nexus 5 wont even tickle Samsung when it comes to this.
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Dont like the plastic back? Just buy a metal back. PROBLEM SOLVED.
I really hope Samsung doesnt make a metal unibody for the Note 5, like the recent ugly HTC and Apple phones that look like someone shat the 1980s expectations of 2010 "scifi tech" through a douchefactory. I hope they stick to removable back, because then you can CHOOSE to have an easily scratched slippery ugly metal back or a grippy durable nice plastic back.
I dont find ANY gimmicky software on my Note 4. I find gimmicky hardware though, like the heartrate sensor and UV sensor. What exactly do you think is gimmicky software on the Note 4?
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Yeah, eBay 4tw when it comes to buying cool backcovers for the Galaxy Note 4. I'm actually gonna buy a Carbon Fiber backcover (not complete carbon fiber) here pretty soon: http://www.ebay.com/itm/30135668976...49&var=600351115625&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
The black version of the Galaxy Note 4 will look smexy sexy with that backcover. You can also buy aluminum / metall backcovers, but they are going to get your GSM, 3G / 4G and Wi-Fi signals to be worser. So i'll rather avoid that. Not only that, but the back of the Galaxy Note 4 looks really good now with the fake leather as it doesn't have any stupid plastic lines (to get better signals through the back) that basicly destroys the look of the phone.
I'm not a fan of Touch wiz, but we have the option of switching to a different launcher and I prefer Nova...
This phone is awesome and we should be thankful we have the freedom to change what we don't like.
How about those Apples?
The expectation from one plus 5 was high, when it was being released. It seems that one plus is not putting any innovative ideas in their UI or overall system experience. They should at least put some new ideas to their user experience. Please vote and let them know...
think you're being a little harsh mate, there are a lot of qualities which add up to an experience that you don't get from any other device.
Speed: The fastest phone there is, bar none.
Audio: Loudest phone i've ever had, couple that with viper audio and it's even louder
Battery: Best battery i've ever had on any phone including the note 4 which was supposed to be superb.
Screen: Jelly effect aside (i don't get this problem) 1+ going for a 1080p screen is the way it should be, a 2k screen on a 5 inch device? What is the point.
Build: Strong casing covering the phone and a non bendy screen
Software: For the first time ever, I've actually contemplated not rooting my device (it's rooted now btw ) Reason being is you can theme and change things which you can't on other devices.
Camera: Ok this one is a bit of a sore subject, I actually rate the camera, i've took some superb shots with it.
Charging: phenomenally quick charging, bested by none. (Thanks @3DSammy )
Overall when you put this together you get a package which very few can compete with
coolom1983 said:
The expectation from one plus 5 was high, when it was being released. It seems that one plus is not putting any innovative ideas in their UI or overall system experience. They should at least put some new ideas to their user experience. Please vote and let them know...
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Not everyone agrees with you. When you speak of user experience, do you mean something like TouchWiz? No thanks. As close to stock as possible is what people in this forum prefer.
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think you're being a little harsh mate, there are a lot of qualities which add up to an experience that you don't get from any other device.
Speed: The fastest phone there is, bar none.
Audio: Loudest phone i've ever had, couple that with viper audio and it's even louder
Battery: Best battery i've ever had on any phone including the note 4 which was supposed to be superb.
Screen: Jelly effect aside (i don't get this problem) 1+ going for a 1080p screen is the way it should be, a 2k screen on a 5 inch device? What is the point.
Build: Strong casing covering the phone and a non bendy screen
Software: For the first time ever, I've actually contemplated not rooting my device (it's rooted now btw ) Reason being is you can theme and change things which you can't on other devices.
Camera: Ok this one is a bit of a sore subject, I actually rate the camera, i've took some superb shots with it.
Overall when you put this together you get a package which very few can compete with
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The only thing I'd add to your list is the phenomenal Dash charging. Just today or yesterday XDA posted a comparison of various brand's charging technologies and the OnePlus Dash charging came out on top. When I bought the OP5 and first charged it that was the very first thing that WOWed me. I definitely agree with the rest of your list. Maybe add the OnePlus companies cooperative attitude to developers with a TWRP recovery available by the end of the very first weekend after release. Its my Nexus series replacement. As times gone by (I ordered the OP5 two hours after the streamed announcement), OOS with multiple OTA releases and its general almost stock experience has reinforced my confidence in this purchase.
OP5 to me is the Nexus that I've missed.... It's speedy and utilitarian... The pixel didn't appeal to me and I think maybe alot of the og Nexus fans too....
If you don't like Nexus, I'm guessing you won't like OP....
Couldn't disagree more with the OP. This is the best phone I've ever owned. And the UI is basically vanilla android but with see very useful additions. The kind of additions I used to flash custom ROMs to get.
I was a successful customer of one plus 3 and 3T... I loved these 2 very much as these were best of their time.... Except dual camera setup which is still not as stable as it should be and Dash charger, I do not see big differences in from previous ones...
Undoubtedly it is good phone but not the best of his time... So many bugs still present in software.... No beta update for one plus 5.... No latest security patches... Even my op3 has latest security patch as compared to my one plus 5..
You do realize it is a small company and they kinda have to update 3 phones now. This takes a bit o time. Besides, they probably invest most of their resources on the Oreo update now.
Do you really think Samsung offers better updates?
As for the differences between last year's model and this year's model - there never is a big differences between those. Generally speaking. They are more like incremental upgrades.
Let's take the S7 and S8. The biggest difference is the screen and that's pretty much it.
In my opinion, one should always skip one phone generation to get the best results. If you had the 3T, there was no reason to get the 5 now. It's better to wait for the 6 as that may be a better upgrade. Same applies to Samsung, LG, HTC and everything else.
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You expect OnePlus to innovate? They've barely been around for five years.
Quit dreaming and buy an iPhone or a Samsung.
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The only thing I'd add to your list is the phenomenal Dash charging. Just today or yesterday XDA posted a comparison of various brand's charging technologies and the OnePlus Dash charging came out on top. When I bought the OP5 and first charged it that was the very first thing that WOWed me. I definitely agree with the rest of your list. Maybe add the OnePlus companies cooperative attitude to developers with a TWRP recovery available by the end of the very first weekend after release. Its my Nexus series replacement. As times gone by (I ordered the OP5 two hours after the streamed announcement), OOS with multiple OTA releases and its general almost stock experience has reinforced my confidence in this purchase.
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Completely agree with the charging it's not of this earth.
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Undoubtedly it is good phone but not the best of his time... So many bugs still present in software.... No beta update for one plus 5.... No latest security patches... Even my op3 has latest security patch as compared to my one plus 5..
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Please compare this to another phone and put the the other ahead!! What phone out ever has no problems? The fact that your 3 is still getting updates in a timely manner is a good thing.
The reason why we got a OnePlus is partly because we prefer as close as possible AOSP experience with a few value added enhancements
If you're into UI and stuff, you're definitely looking the wrong phone and should consider what Samsung or Xiaomi has to offer instead
Download a launcher.
This thread so dumb I thought I am browsing the OnePlus forums
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This thread so dumb I thought I am browsing the OnePlus forums
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hahah , yeah.
Damn people, they want stupid gadget but dont want to pay for it.
For many people, the op5 is perfect because it's simple, still have capacitive button ( which make the android signature imo), simple = the parts will be cheap on ebay, and we dont pay for stupid random gadget.
NO! REMOVING 3.5mm jack is NOT innovation.
Why spend $$$ to get a fcking edge screen that will cost 500$ to replace ?
IP67 , when 95% of people wont get close to water with their phone, and 99% of them never drop their phone in water anyway.
op5 is innovative in a way that they give you high spec with minimal parts. Imho, this make a durable phone (5-6 years easy), and as we can notice, the earth need a break of overconsuming rightnow.
Coming from a Pixel XL, the design of this phone is much better; feels much nicer in the hand and isn't as heavy.
There is tons more development available for this device compared to the XL, and for a company that is so young, they are doing an amazing job.
Yeah, the camera didn't live up to the hype, but it's not a horrible camera by any means.
I am getting the same user experience as my Pixel XL, and even better than the XL in some areas as well - all for significantly less than what I paid for the XL.
That being said, I definitely don't think it's reasonable to say there is no innovation, despite the 5 looking similar to an iPhone. The iPhone's design isn't bad at all in my opinion, so that carries over to the 5.
All in all, I'm really loving this phone and I do not regret selling my XL to get this I am open minded and will see how the Pixel 2 is though, but just in terms of development, I don't know if I'd switch back.
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Just people having their say. Sometimes the worst questions or ideas for a thread become extremely popular.
Otherwise why are people posting here
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Coming from a Pixel XL, the design of this phone is much better; feels much nicer in the hand and isn't as heavy.
All in all, I'm really loving this phone and I do not regret selling my XL to get this I am open minded and will see how the Pixel 2 is though, but just in terms of development, I don't know if I'd switch back.
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Honestly can't see the pixel 2 having anything ground breaking that would make me want to move over.
The camera will be great but OS and performance, stamina and build will be very similar.
Tbh I can see the 1+5 beating it in terms of speed.
Guess we'll see.
Plus if the pixel goes for a 2k screen then you'll see how much of a benefit a 1080p screen gives you in regards to performance and battery longevity.
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Hmmmmmm - I vote that that you would be better off trading in op5 and get this
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i always viewed oneplus devices as extremely minimal. I know, you know and oneplus knows that if you want an innovative UI you can download it from the play store. Think of the thing as a modular phone on the software side. I like the thing because it works really well and charges nice and fast doesnt slow down and remembers every app right where i was unless the app itself has a background refresh built in. Its a good phone and should be treated as such.
sure, it's innovative! you get to choose between Wifi AND cellular data. the screen protectors lay perfectly flat on the screen, which is also flat. this phone is small! it fits perfectly in all kinds of pockets. the screen lights up in the dark so you can see it at night. you can install multiple applications without removing the old ones. on top of all that - wireless discharging!
seriously, you are living in the era of the Jetsons (assuming you're old enough to remember that show). splitting hairs about a company's R&D standards is so moot when you have a super [email protected]$$ computer in your pocket. just don't buy it! or return it! move along!