Related
I am going to buy a Moto X in the US and use it abroad. May I get some suggestion about which version to buy other than the Dev Ed because I managed to get a promotion code which can only be used for MotoMaker ones.
Is there any version that is unlocked for sim cards other than the carrier indicated?
which version is easier to root and unlock the BL of Moto X?
Thank you very much.
charcoalbox said:
I am going to buy a Moto X in the US and use it abroad. May I get some suggestion about which version to buy other than the Dev Ed because I managed to get a promotion code which can only be used for MotoMaker ones.
Is there any version that is unlocked for sim cards other than the carrier indicated?
which version is easier to root and unlock the BL of Moto X?
Thank you very much.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
TMo
TMO is sim unlocked and bootloader unlockable
anirudh412 said:
TMo
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you!
yghrv said:
TMO is sim unlocked and bootloader unlockable
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks alot.
I'm going to Mexico in January and I have the Verizon Dev edition; as far as I know, it has the same internals as the standard moto x, only the bootloader being unlockable is different. It's my understanding that Verzion phones come carrier unlocked, and the new ones (including the x) have gsm bands as well as cdma and LTE bands. My mexican (telcel) sim card shipped today so I should find out soon. These are the bands included in the verizon moto x:
Network: LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
LTE B13/4 700/1700
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS( 850/900/1900/2100), HSDPA 42.2 Mbps (Category 20), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
As long as your overseas carrier offers one of those you should be fine. Also, if you're about to buy, I'd hold off for a week if you can. I hear wood backs are coming to moto maker.
P!X3L said:
I'm going to Mexico in January and I have the Verizon Dev edition; as far as I know, it has the same internals as the standard moto x, only the bootloader being unlockable is different. It's my understanding that Verzion phones come carrier unlocked, and the new ones (including the x) have gsm bands as well as cdma and LTE bands. My mexican (telcel) sim card shipped today so I should find out soon. These are the bands included in the verizon moto x:
Network: LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
LTE B13/4 700/1700
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS( 850/900/1900/2100), HSDPA 42.2 Mbps (Category 20), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
As long as your overseas carrier offers one of those you should be fine. Also, if you're about to buy, I'd hold off for a week if you can. I hear wood backs are coming to moto maker.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you confirmed if it worked or not? I am thinking of sending a few to Honduras to run on Claro and it looks like they should be able to get nano sims there since Claro offers the iPhone 5S. They currently all have Droid 3 phones.
I've got an ATT Moto X, proparly unlocked; works fine in Europe, w/o any issues! Few ATT spamware (phonebook, backup) disabled, everything else is just fine pure Android experience. Got mine from Ebay.
Best to get the T-Mobile Moto X. Why is because it comes unlocked for GSM networks right out of the box and furthermore, it doesn't even have a carrier logo on the back.
I got one and its happily working fine in Malaysia with no network issues.
Sent from my XT1053 using xda app-developers app
I believe the T-Mobile one is the best global solution as xylencia mentioned, it comes carrier unlocked (not bootloader unlocked, as some confuse the difference). I just took my moto to Canada and got a nano Sim from telus, paid $30 for a month and its working great.
I moved away from Verizon because their phones don't work on any other network (unless things have changed recently)
Sent from my XT1053 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
skotturi said:
I believe the T-Mobile one is the best global solution as xylencia mentioned, it comes carrier unlocked (not bootloader unlocked, as some confuse the difference). I just took my moto to Canada and got a nano Sim from telus, paid $30 for a month and its working great.
I moved away from Verizon because their phones don't work on any other network (unless things have changed recently)
Sent from my XT1053 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Verizon LTE devices come sim unlocked for GSM carriers. It's part of an agreement with the FCC. You can use it stateside and globally.
T-Mobile or the Dev gsm is best for travel other than for Korea and Japan and even then you will have 3g
Sent from my XT1053 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
xylencia said:
Best to get the T-Mobile Moto X. Why is because it comes unlocked for GSM networks right out of the box and furthermore, it doesn't even have a carrier logo on the back.
I got one and its happily working fine in Malaysia with no network issues.
Sent from my XT1053 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cool. Moreover, I actually used LiveChat with a Motorola rep and she confirmed that only T-Mobile's version comes carrier unlocked out of the box. Even though NO CONTRACT options are also available with the other carriers.
Sent from my XT1053 using xda app-developers app
To all international buyers: use the attached table to choose the best version for you
View attachment 2480951
Correct me if I am wrong, Europe uses 4G band 7 right? Which GSM Dev Moto X doesn't support.
kolyan said:
Correct me if I am wrong, Europe uses 4G band 7 right? Which GSM Dev Moto X doesn't support.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are right. Only XT1058 supports band 7
amarguli said:
You are right. Only XT1058 supports band 7
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That sucks. I am pretty sure T-Mobile S4 had band 7... ..I checked Nexus 5 also doesn't have it.
Well if u really need LTE on 2600, just buy the ATT version and have it unlocked by a third party. Probably cost u something like ten bucks.
Sent from my XT1053 using xda app-developers app
amarguli said:
You are right. Only XT1058 supports band 7
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Now is not the only model at the moment. European Moto X (I don't know model number yet) supports band 7 too
xylencia said:
Well if u really need LTE on 2600, just buy the ATT version and have it unlocked by a third party. Probably cost u something like ten bucks.
Sent from my XT1053 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But ATT doesn't have 1700. All Motos missing something.....sucks
So I'm about to go and meetup with someone to buy this phone, but I just realized there are a ton of different variants. I'm just finding out that her phone is locked to Rogers so it's probably the XT1058 that she has. My question is: Is there a way to get this phone and specific model to work on Wind Mobile (or Tmobile's 3g network)? The band for Wind Mobile is AWS 1700.
Legend28469 said:
So I'm about to go and meetup with someone to buy this phone, but I just realized there are a ton of different variants. I'm just finding out that her phone is locked to Rogers so it's probably the XT1058 that she has. My question is: Is there a way to get this phone and specific model to work on Wind Mobile (or Tmobile's 3g network)? The band for Wind Mobile is AWS 1700.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i thought that Roger's had something going on that the device is basically locked in to their network... someone else can chime in here.
Legend28469 said:
So I'm about to go and meetup with someone to buy this phone, but I just realized there are a ton of different variants. I'm just finding out that her phone is locked to Rogers so it's probably the XT1058 that she has. My question is: Is there a way to get this phone and specific model to work on Wind Mobile (or Tmobile's 3g network)? The band for Wind Mobile is AWS 1700.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
personally i wouldnt mess with trying to switch carriers with the phone.
The Rogers phone can be carrier unlocked. I have one, it's unlocked and working on telus, lte and all.
But, better do some searching, cause I thought I read somewhere that it won't work on wind. Maybe I'm wrong, but better look into it or you may be disappointed.
Sent from my XT1058 using Tapatalk
It works fine on wind. Had to sim unlock it, but that was it
Sent from my XT1058 using Tapatalk
OP, based on the replies here, if you have yet to go through with the purchase, be sure to read up on the complications of unlocking the device for other carriers before making the decision that this phone is for you.
bongostl said:
It works fine on wind. Had to sim unlock it, but that was it
Sent from my XT1058 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A Rogers XT1058 will not work on Wind, it does not support HSPA on the 1700/2100 Mhz frequency band.
To the OP, you need an XT1053 model of the Moto X to use it with Wind Mobile.
The XT1053 is not sold in Canada, it is sold in the US as the retail/tmobile/gsm dev edition.
Unlocking a Rogers XT1058 is easy and less then 10 bucks but it still won't enable the AWS bands for HSPA. It will only work on Telus, Koodo, Bell, Virgin, Rogers and Fido.
Yup ^^^
That's about what I read. And most unlocked phones I looked at before buying my Moto X said work on all carriers.. Except wind. Not just the Moto x either... The G2 was another for sure.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
Just to clarify, the unlocked Moto X on their site has full support for all AT&T LTE bands? Can't seem to find full confirmation of this...
Sent from my LG-D802 using Tapatalk
The unlocked version on Moto 's website is the T Mobile GSM Unlocked variant(Isn't actually sold by T Mobile, but that's its name) . Sporting LTE support for bands B17/B4/B2.
People around the forums have said it works fine with AT&T LTE.
Sent from my Moto X
We have just purchased a Moto X made for T-Mobile and connected to AT&T towers and now are receiving terrible coverage. We are going through StraightTalk and are now actually roaming with good reception where we live, but we are roaming on USCellular towers. Is there any way that we can flash this phone to run on the USCellular network?
Ok, so I did a little research as far as coverage goes. If you're wanting to use the X on straight talk, then the at&t towers are going to be it for you. You could put the sprint version on straight talk, but if your Verizon straight talk phone is roaming onto us cellular, odds are Sprint is non existent where you live.
You could talk to the us cellular store about putting their version on prepaid, but you'll be looking at $65/month instead of the $45 that straight talk offers.
Now to answer your original question, it's impossible to put the t mobile x on us cellular because it doesn't have a CDMA radio.
Sent from my XT1053 using xda premium
If you're roaming on US Cellular and want to switch to US Cellular, all you would need to do is sign up with US Cellular and put their SIM in your phone. No flashing required. According to Wikipedia, the T-Mobile version supports all the non-LTE bands supported by the US Cellular version, but lacks some LTE bands that the US Cellular version supports, but this is a hardware limitation, AFAIK.
UncleMike said:
If you're roaming on US Cellular and want to switch to US Cellular, all you would need to do is sign up with US Cellular and put their SIM in your phone. No flashing required. According to Wikipedia, the T-Mobile version supports all the non-LTE bands supported by the US Cellular version, but lacks some LTE bands that the US Cellular version supports, but this is a hardware limitation, AFAIK.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unfortunately, both US Cellular and Verizon are CDMA carriers. Phones from GSM providers such as T-Mobile and AT&T will not work on their services.
Sent from my XT1053 using xda premium
chrstndsgnr said:
Unfortunately, both US Cellular and Verizon are CDMA carriers. Phones from GSM providers such as T-Mobile and AT&T will not work on their services.
Sent from my XT1053 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The OP claims to be using a T-Mobile version of the Moto X with an AT&T SIM, which couldn't possibly roam on a CDMA carrier.
But a quick look at Wikipedia confirms that US Cellular is a CDMA carrier, although their Moto X version supports GSM bands also - which is what led me astray in my reply.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
Yes I confirm. My Moto X is a Verizon model working on tmobile.
ozzyGEEK said:
Yes I confirm. My Moto X is a Verizon model working on tmobile.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hi there. I'm looking to try out the tmobile $30 service and I have vzw right now. I was going to get a vzw model just in case things don't work out. As you said the tmobile service works with the vzw moto x but I was wondering if you're able to text/make calls while on the 4g LTE network? I've heard people having problems and not being able to surf the net while on call or not being able to receive texts/outgoing calls while on the 4G, but everything works on the HSPA network.
Thanks!
Hey all-ay a a silly question but what is the drawback of buying a US model of the moto X and using in the UK?
This may be me being stupid but they are loads cheaper on eBay and come in a dying colours
markj1999 said:
Hey all-ay a a silly question but what is the drawback of buying a US model of the moto X and using in the UK?
This may be me being stupid but they are loads cheaper on eBay and come in a dying colours
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
import tax only =))
using AT&T Moto x in Ireland, no probs! The only warning - don't take Sprint's one - you won't be able to unlock it, as it appeared to be pure CDMA device
Basically what okaban said. I'd see if you could get the GSM unlocked version (as called the T-Mobile version) but if there's an AT&T Moto X you really like you should be fine. If you see a Verizon one you like, I don't think you need to modify anything if you're not in the US. I know this was the case with my RAZR M (I had to unlock the radio for it to work in the US though).
markj1999 said:
Hey all-ay a a silly question but what is the drawback of buying a US model of the moto X and using in the UK?
This may be me being stupid but they are loads cheaper on eBay and come in a dying colours
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can't have UK LTE bands on US phones: I think that LTE might be already a factor deserving consideration in the UK. In the UK you have 800/1800/2600 MHz and the only US model which supports at least 2600 is ATT. It might be better with Latin America models but I'm not sure.
If LTE is an issue for you, I would wait for the 32gb European model.
If it's not an issue for you, you would be ok with a ATT or the Dev Edition GSM version (which I have been using since Thursday in Ireland)
Tapatalked from my MotoX Dev Edition.
I have at&t moto x and it shows 4G sign in UK, so it must be working
Sent from my XT1058 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
N_Face said:
I have at&t moto x and it shows 4G sign in UK, so it must be working
Sent from my XT1058 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
4G label is how Moto X shows HDSPA+ network connection.
Yep, I'm using a GSM DE (xt1053) in Spain and it shows "4G", where 3g+-only phones would display "H".
This is not LTE, and no US model will ever work on any European LTE (real 4G) network that I'm aware of regardless of whether or not you try flashing country-specific firmware. The LTE radios are physically different. LTE doesn't exist where I am so it's not a concern, but if you have access to an LTE signal then DEFINITELY spend the extra cash for your country-specific model.
piskr said:
4G label is how Moto X shows HDSPA+ network connection.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not true....
I have an XT1058 in Chile, I get 4G as LTE.
aben2amu said:
Not true....
I have an XT1058 in Chile, I get 4G as LTE.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The US market is a little nuts so US phones show 4G for HSPA and 4GLTE for LTE connections. The rest of the world(most of it anyway) shows the proper protocol for the connection type. (H, LTE etc)