Is there much of a performance impact withe regards to install applications on the internal storage instead of on "\"
No!
If there is, it's minimal. I install all my third-party apps to Internal Storage, and they certainly don't take any longer to open, or are they slower running than any of the apps in ROM.
Yes there's a performance difference. If you install them on the ROM you'll find them running slower! Why? Well the ROM is your memory. If you installed a lot of large apps there then you'll have no memory! Then things will really get slow.
Note, however, if you install them on \Internal Storage but then connect your phone to the PC for a data connection (i.e. not an ActiveSync connection but the one where you get \Internal Storage mounted as a drive letter) you will not be able to run anything on \Internal Storage. In fact, you won't be able to see \Internal Storage since it's mounted as a drive to your PC. Worse yet, any applications you were running from \Internal Storage will freeze and will not be killable, necessitating a reboot.
Well I mean... even symbian have an option if you want to install on C or D if you know what I mean. why Android dont have this option when installing new app? why is this so complicated? is there a reason?
The idea is that these are "post-PC" devices. Choosing which drive to put it on is an implementation decision. Post-PC devices try not to have the user worry about implementation and just take care of it. Notice the complete lack of a file explorer in the OS.
In practice this is still a little shaky. Android has allowed you to install apps to an external drive since 2.2, but at the time manufacturers weren't including mass storage chips on the phone, and relied exclusively on SD cards for media storage. The Galaxy S line changed that, and the Optimus 2X takes some cues from that by having a large amount of storage built into the device (the Nexus S doesn't even have external storage). The only place to mount that and have it show up properly when you connect to a PC is /mnt/sdcard/ (/sdcard/ is just a symlink). Some apps are able to recognize when there are multiple mass storage cards available, but most still assume just the SD card.
thanks for answer, its like linux the mnt folder. I hope it gets better
What do you mean hope it gets better?
i guess he means this ^^
keyboardr said:
Some apps are able to recognize when there are multiple mass storage cards available, but most still assume just the SD card.
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I picked up my tab this morning and have had a hell of a time mounting it as USB storage to transfer movies and pics ect... but I figured it out so I thought I'd share with the XDA community simply because there really isnt anything out there that I could find on Google.
1. download USB drivers from samsung: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/ga...eration+-+10.1+Tab_Galaxy+Tab_galaxy+tab+10.1
2. install drivers
3. reboot pc
4. turn off usb debugging... VERY IMPORTANT AS IT IS ENABLED BY DEFAULT
5. plug in via usb
6. enjoy!!
If it works for you please hit the "thanks" button
Worked like a charm for me bro. . Thanks!
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4. turn off usb debugging... VERY IMPORTANT AS IT IS ENABLED BY DEFAULT
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worked for me. USB debugging. Who would have thought?
Freaking TouchWiz... With stock android you can use debugging AND mass storage mode. STOP IT SAMSUNG!
Still didnt work for me. Found issue with hardware error from windwos :/. This is such a pain.
ObsidianX said:
Freaking TouchWiz... With stock android you can use debugging AND mass storage mode. STOP IT SAMSUNG!
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hate to break it to you big guy, there is no touchwiz loaded on the 10.1 yet
not sure why this is such an issue getting this thing connected to the PC
Works to transfer "recognized" files extensions. However things like .mkv or .mpg make windows explorer crash. When I transferred an avi file it wanted to convert it. Seriously, WTF samsung? I loved your stuff but this is a bit much. I should be able to treat it like an SD card.
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Works to transfer "recognized" files extensions. However things like .mkv or .mpg make windows explorer crash. When I transferred an avi file it wanted to convert it. Seriously, WTF samsung? I loved your stuff but this is a bit much. I should be able to treat it like an SD card.
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Been having the same problem. Transferring .wmv or .mov files makes my pc crash. Although I was able to plug it into a different pc and it was automatically recognized as USB and worked fine. I wonder if it has anything to do with my galaxy s drivers.
It works, but not as a removable storage device. It sees it as a portable device, which isn't as good.
This is pretty useless.. it's treated like Apple treats their devices... as some kind of media device and not just a regular drive.
Looks like a large oversight on Samsung's side.. can be easily fixed, luckily.
What are you lot talking about?
You do, unfortunately, need latest version of kies installed, USB debugging switched off, plug the thing in and is recognised as a removable drive... you don't need to use kies but is just active in the background and displayed on screen of tab...
All files transfer no problem including .mkv .AVI etc. If your explorer crashes it is a problem with explorer... sometimes caused by other software that is integrated into explorer contextual menus...ie if you have a bootcamp Mac with macdrive installed the explorer pane ( tree listing) will always crash explorer if you try to copy and paste from there... you have to do it from the large pane on right...
Hope this helps
Forgot to say if you're having driver problems the latest is here
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/downloads/GT-P7510UWVXAB
Install drivers from executable file downloaded from above...
When you connect your tab Best way to ensure satisfactory installation is to ignore " found new hardware blah blah, search for drivers blah blah" go to device manager find the non installed Samsung, right click and select update drivers, browse... the above installed drivers are in program files, Samsung, usb drivers... select USB drivers folder, validate et voila
Hi jhild352!
Honeycomb tablet cannot be mounted as mass storage, for the simple reason there is no more real sdcard formated in Fat32.
/dev/block/mmcblk0p4 /system ext4 ro,relatime,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0
/dev/block/mmcblk0p5 /cache ext4 rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0
/dev/block/mmcblk0p8 /data ext4 rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0
/dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /efs ext4 rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0
/dev/fuse /mnt/sdcard fuse rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1023,group_id=1023,default_permissions,allow_other 0 0
Everything is in Ext4, and sdcard is "emulated" via fuse.
That's why Honeycomb tablets use MTP instead, which I agree sucks.
Wonder if anyone's figured out a way to get this ****er mounted in Mac.
Sorry for the potty mouth, I'm just annoyed @ Samsung, haha.
hehe
Yes this is true... my bad for wording it the wrong way. I simply ment that you could plug it into a PC and transfer pics/movies/song ect
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Kies works well for music, photos, and movies, but how would I go about putting a book on it without using dropbox? Why couldn't they just make it to where we could mount it as a drive like with an sdcard?! Samsung, you make everything overly difficult!
jhild352 said:
I picked up my tab this morning and have had a hell of a time mounting it as USB storage to transfer movies and pics ect... but I figured it out so I thought I'd share with the XDA community simply because there really isnt anything out there that I could find on Google.
1. download USB drivers from samsung: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/ga...eration+-+10.1+Tab_Galaxy+Tab_galaxy+tab+10.1
2. install drivers
3. reboot pc
4. turn off usb debugging... VERY IMPORTANT AS IT IS ENABLED BY DEFAULT
5. plug in via usb
6. enjoy!!
If it works for you please hit the "thanks" button
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Excatly the same way that it works on the Xoom, funny that has been such a big issue. (ok on the xoom it works also with the debugging on)
On the upside, the new ext4-based arrangement gives Honeycomb a unified internal storage, which is really great. Avoids the whole business of contention, and mounting internal storage that the device may be using for other things. Allows proper permissions to be applied. I don't particularly have an issue with MTP either, for media transfers. Obviously this isn't an issue with cloud-based ways of getting media onto the device, which is the way things are heading.
But I think this is why having an SD card slot is still valuable, and Sammy made a mistake not putting one in the Gtab10.1 - using SD card you can just pop some movies onto your tablet from your PC, or have multiple SD cards at the ready - same for having a blank SD at the ready for updates. It's a far better arrangement than mounting internal storage, IMHO.
I know its not really the solution to the issue but an obvious workaround would be wifi file explorer? I think I remember even using adhock and then using the PC browser to upload and download the files. Not ideal but atleast enables quick updates of media and such.
If its only got ext4 its never going to mount in dozzz no later the drivers/programs ect. I had a hell of a time trying to get some media of a popcornhour a-100.. long story short ended up just ftp'ing everything off. Hey what about andftp too?
Or a live Linux distro might do the trick.. lol six to one on any time savings but could work??
AFTERTHOUGHT: Hmm I'm wondering if android commander would cope? I'm sure I've used it on a ext4 ROM and pushed stuff into the system partition. Or is that trickery on its part? I'd have a crack... but I'm on my p1000 for a little longer... :-(
Also perhaps; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952456
thanks, now we just need a fix for mac!
As the topic says no matter what i do (i have moved all my photos and videos and music to the sd card) my internal storage always says full. (using 4.1gb of the 4.9 available.)
Even using windows to explore the internal memory i can only find a couple of 100mb of data etc on the internal storage, but windows also shows it as full............ could there be hidden files somewhere?
Under storage in the settings it says i am using 2.19gb for pictures and video, but i have transferred them all to the sd!!!!!
Driving me mad, any suggestions. I am using the stock kit kat update that came out a recently
thanks
superfamiking said:
As the topic says no matter what i do (i have moved all my photos and videos and music to the sd card) my internal storage always says full. (using 4.1gb of the 4.9 available.)
Even using windows to explore the internal memory i can only find a couple of 100mb of data etc on the internal storage, but windows also shows it as full............ could there be hidden files somewhere?
Under storage in the settings it says i am using 2.19gb for pictures and video, but i have transferred them all to the sd!!!!!
Driving me mad, any suggestions. I am using the stock kit kat update that came out a recently
thanks
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reflash your phone
Look for big files named thumbdata.
I had three of them, they tooked aproxmently 1,5 gb on my phone.
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do as @Mario.D says
and then REBOOT your phone!
I tried hardly to set the external SD card as Whatsapp default memory for images, video on the Redmi Note 10Pro... With no success.
Tried from within the app and from the phone, no way. WhatsApp stuff will slowly eat the memory for no reason. I managed to set it as a default for the camera, but not for WhatsApp.
Anybody has a way or a workaround? Hints are highly appreciated.
Jean-Marc
jmcaimi said:
I tried hardly to set the external SD card as Whatsapp default memory for images, video on the Redmi Note 10Pro... With no success.
Tried from within the app and from the phone, no way. WhatsApp stuff will slowly eat the memory for no reason. I managed to set it as a default for the camera, but not for WhatsApp.
Anybody has a way or a workaround? Hints are highly appreciated.
Jean-Marc
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Not allowed by WhatsApp when SD used as removable storage - I guess it's something to do with security ?
If you are rooted you can mount the internal Whatsapp folder to your sdcard. That way all data which is supposed to go into that folder on the internal storage is saved on the sdcard instead. But you would need to format it as f2fs, or ext2/3/4 for that to work. If you do that it will only be readable under linux. It wont work on Windows, or inside digital cameras, recorders, etc.
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Not allowed by WhatsApp when SD used as removable storage - I guess it's something to do with security ?
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WhatsApp has implemented scoped storage https://developer.android.com/training/data-storage#scoped-storage, means you won't be able to store app data outside their own boundaries unless you use the sd card as adoptable storage https://source.android.com/devices/storage/adoptable
It's understandable why most flagship doesn't have any microsd anymore. To put it simply, it wasn't easy just to put apps data into a removable storage anymore, as we perceive removeable storage as, well, removable, while it's not anymore - it's part of your phone, to extend your phone internal storage. Losing it, accidentally breaking it, can cause data lost for some apps. For the sake of convenience, easier to use, and manufacture's benefits, it's more preferred to remove the microsd altogether instead.
i have root
is there no a module or app? there was app called "folder mount" it was working but android 12 not working more