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Is there anyway to FORCE the apps to use the MicroSD memory instead of the Internal storage?
It seems every app I've installed ( Dropbox, Google Docs, Evernote, etc) uses the internal memory. I have a 32GB MicroSD that seems to be useless right now. I tried moving all the apps to SD, but they still use the Internal Memory to store cache/files
I have yet to see a fix for this as well. The way I work around this is if the app saves files to the internal storage there is usually a setting in the settings menu that will allow you to change where it saves files. For instance with the TapeRecorder app. It automatically saves files to the sdcard (which Motorola stupidly named the internal storage for). I go to the settings and change the "sdcard" to "sdcard-ext", then it works!
For the time being, you can use the SD-EXT microsd card for music, videos, pictures, TiBU backups, downloads, etc., but in some cases you need to change some settings to do so. Apps cannot be installed on the external microsd card for now and you should make sure you 'move to phone' any apps which are check marked in the 'media' area or you are subject to losing them.
Sorry this next generation android phone just like Droid X it has dedicated app memory. That memory is used strictly for those apps. U can put 500 apps and not run out of room. SD card is used for media music movies etc
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Groid said:
For the time being, you can use the SD-EXT microsd card for music, videos, pictures, TiBU backups, downloads, etc., but in some cases you need to change some settings to do so. Apps cannot be installed on the external microsd card for now and you should make sure you 'move to phone' any apps which are check marked in the 'media' area or you are subject to losing them.
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Is this why When I selected "Move to Media Area" the application shortcut disappears from the "All Apps" menu?
I moved 2 games to the "Media Area" and now they are gone... they are still installed, but I have no way of accessing them. (I know they are still installed because when I went to reinstall, it said something about it replacing an app thats already install)
After researching more, and fumbling through the phone I discovered that Motorola has deemed the 8GB of Internal memory as an SDCard.
Another FAIL for Motorola, and I doubt there will ever be a fix for this. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
Stated on the Motorola Forums:
Folks, it's the storage naming system in Android. If you go to any forum for any phone with internal and external memory you'll see the same complaints. There are multiple threads about it here.
Even though in Motorola's file manager you see "internal phone memory" and "SD Card", the internal memory is actually "sdcard" and the external is "sdcard-ext". Like I said, it's like this on every brand of phone with this set up.
So, what's happening is the apps are saving to the internal memory because it is, in fact, the SD card. Motorola has tried to remedy this confusion by discontinuing to say "move to SD" and instead now calls it "Move to Media area".
And no, your external SD is not useless. You can still set your photos from the camera to save directly to your external, you can still put music and movies and all kinds of media on your external and your phone will see them just fine. This is why there is a 16GB card included with your phone, so you can use it for media and if you want to move your apps off of the system memory to save space you move it to the 8GB internal area. Of course 8GB is still plenty of space for apps and other media as well
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EDIT: BFirebird101 stated this to, I don't know why, but when I was scrolling it passed over his post. Didn't mean to restate what he said.
I've been *****ing about this problem for weeks and nobody seems to care, and it also seems to not bother anybody either.
Its a crock of sh1t. Yea you can save media files on the real SD card, but how many apps actually find them? Smooth move Motofùckingrola!
Fortunately with some coaxing and about a month of messing around, DoubleTwist can find media files on sdcard-ext. Its about the only worthy music player that can.
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Tornlogic said:
I've been *****ing about this problem for weeks and nobody seems to care, and it also seems to not bother anybody either.
Its a crock of sh1t. Yea you can save media files on the real SD card, but how many apps actually find them? Smooth move Motofùckingrola!
Fortunately with some coaxing and about a month of messing around, DoubleTwist can find media files on sdcard-ext. Its about the only worthy music player that can.
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The Stock Music App seems to find the music files just fine on the MicroSD (just add some to try) and the Gallery Finds the Pictures. But I don't give a damn about Music or Pictures.
I have 123MB of the "Internal Memory" (SDCard) left - after I loaded all my work documents (spreadsheets, powerpoints, etc) & E-books. Right now I have to Move the file from the SDcard (InternalMemory) to the SDCard-Ext(MicroSD) after I've edit it and reuploaded it to Google Docs, then if I want to Edit it agian, I have to move it back to the SDCard(Internal Memory) Just so Google Docs will see it again.
Stock? That's okay, I'll pass. I froze those apps with TiBackup.
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i use videovault and when i pulled my video vault folder from my old backup and loaded it to the external SD, the VideoVault did not find them. There is no way i will load 4GB of videos into my Internal 8GB card just so i can haz my pronz!
What I noticed is this seems to be very similar to how the Xoom and Honeycomb handles sdcards and internal storage (minus the fact that we still cant write to sdcards on stock honeycomb....) so it could be Motorola setup the phone this way for a smoother migration to Ice Cream Sandwich when it comes out?
If ICS looks anything like the "leaked" video then ill pass.
It seems that MOTOROLA Android devices are the only ones with the MicroSD issues.
I have an Asus Transformer android tablet that has absolutely NO trouble at all when it come to read/write access of the MicroSD.
Motorola seems to fudge everything up. But verizon doesnt off any better phones (IMO)
You would think with all the Smart/Nerdy People on this site, someone would come up with a way to Rename the partitions Motorola has setup.
If it was just possible to rename the "SDCard-Ext" To "SDCard" ...
The reason you have no issue is Asus did a hack mod to get the SD card to work. Moto did the same on European xooms but on USA version its a google product there fore moto has no control on software manipulation. As for apps to SD card there is no need the device has dedicated app storage stritctly for apps.
KoolAidJunkie said:
If ICS looks anything like the "leaked" video then ill pass.
It seems that MOTOROLA Android devices are the only ones with the MicroSD issues.
I have an Asus Transformer android tablet that has absolutely NO trouble at all when it come to read/write access of the MicroSD.
Motorola seems to fudge everything up. But verizon doesnt off any better phones (IMO)
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I was having issues with my phone and accidentally deleted some system apps so I restored my phone using the fastboot files and cleared my internal SD card storage. Upon reboot (with no apps installed), there is only 2.88GB of application storage available.
If I remember correctly, 8GB is allocated to the internal SD card. Does that mean 8GB goes to application storage? If so, where is my other 5GB?
2.88 for Apps, 8 for internal, and the rest(no more than like 4 gig) for the OS if IIRC.
The OS takes up that much space?
Your internal storage is divided up in to three separate sections...
Apps (your app storage), Media Storage (this is actually like extended app storage or Apps2SD) and SDcard. Not sure the split but I think 8 for apps and media storage (split there however) and the other 8 for /sdcard.
An external SDCARD added would be /sdcard-ext
OS space is never listed as part of a phone's available storage so the 16 GB is has is dedicated to Apps/Media Storage/SDcard
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Your internal storage is divided up in to three separate sections...
Apps (your app storage), Media Storage (this is actually like extended app storage or Apps2SD) and SDcard. Not sure the split but I think 8 for apps and media storage (split there however) and the other 8 for /sdcard.
An external SDCARD added would be /sdcard-ext
OS space is never listed as part of a phone's available storage so the 16 GB is has is dedicated to Apps/Media Storage/SDcard
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So under storage it lists:
Total Phone Storage
Total Space 16.00GB
Application Storage
Available Space 2.73GB
Internal Media Storage
Available Space 8.00GB
Windows Media Sync
Windows Media Sync Storage Internal Storage (8.00GB/8.00GB)
The phone is stock with no updates/market apps. No pics, music, etc (Was backed up and formatted). I should still see 5.27GB somewhere right?
This summed it up pretty well for me. I think I answered my own question. This is exactly what my phone shows.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/10/motorola-droid-4-advertises-16gb-internal-storage-only-reports/
Straight from Moto with a little more detail: https://motorola-global-portal.cust...r_detail/a_id/76066/p/30,6720,8302/kw/storage
Awesome, thank you. I don't know why Motorola does that. They should advertise the amount of space that I can use, not how much is in the phone.
They inflate the phone's storage capacity to fool you into buying it, thinking you're really getting that much. It's an old trick.
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Awesome, thank you. I don't know why Motorola does that. They should advertise the amount of space that I can use, not how much is in the phone.
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Repartition the phone and flash with custom OS and you can use all that space, right?
Yea, that's probably why Moto Mobility is going down under.
I think a custom OS takes up space from your media partition.
My wife has a Droid Incredible 4G LTE that is basically out of space because of the way it is partitioned by HTC. Rather than having 1 big partition, it has one partition labeled internal storage, one labeled phone storage and then the external SD Card. Unfortunately, apps can only be moved from from the tiny 1GB internal storage over to the still small (not sure of size) Phone Storage. Even though every app that can be moved over to Phone Storage is moved, big apps like Facebook always fail to update and say Insufficient Storage available. Although when I look in Settings, it does show over 100MB free for the Internal Storage. On my Galaxy Nexus, when I go to Settings->Storage, it just shows my 1 big 32GB partition and everything seems to use it and I have many more apps installed than my wife and never once had an app fail to update because of insufficient storage. Has HTC gotten away from the strange partitioning setup that the Incredible 4G LTE uses with the One and gone to one big unified partition?
The partitioning is part of ICS I believe. But as of now, I've got tons of big apps and I've never run into that issue. Apps according to the Storage settings is taking up 7.53GB, but that includes the big ass game files of 3 racing games, Batman and a few others that actually reside on the SD.
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The partitioning is part of ICS I believe. But as of now, I've got tons of big apps and I've never run into that issue. Apps according to the Storage settings is taking up 7.53GB, but that includes the big ass game files of 3 racing games, Batman and a few others that actually reside on the SD.
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Thanks for the info. Would it be possible for you to post a screenshot of the Storage section of Settings? I want to see how it compares to the Incredible 4G.
Here you go
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My wife has a Droid Incredible 4G LTE that is basically out of space because of the way it is partitioned by HTC. Rather than having 1 big partition, it has one partition labeled internal storage, one labeled phone storage and then the external SD Card. Unfortunately, apps can only be moved from from the tiny 1GB internal storage over to the still small (not sure of size) Phone Storage. Even though every app that can be moved over to Phone Storage is moved, big apps like Facebook always fail to update and say Insufficient Storage available. Although when I look in Settings, it does show over 100MB free for the Internal Storage. On my Galaxy Nexus, when I go to Settings->Storage, it just shows my 1 big 32GB partition and everything seems to use it and I have many more apps installed than my wife and never once had an app fail to update because of insufficient storage. Has HTC gotten away from the strange partitioning setup that the Incredible 4G LTE uses with the One and gone to one big unified partition?
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The programs also has to download, and then installed - so it takes more storage than one would think. I ran into this on my old Amaze that had been upgraded to ICS. The only solution is to remove files from internal storage. I'm assuming you have run the utilities to clean out the storage?
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Thanks. That looks more like my Galaxy Nexus. The Incredible 4G shows how much space is available on the different partitions. It seems like the One allows all of your storage to be used for whatever you want.
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The programs also has to download, and then installed - so it takes more storage than one would think. I ran into this on my old Amaze that had been upgraded to ICS. The only solution is to remove files from internal storage. I'm assuming you have run the utilities to clean out the storage?
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Yes I have run the "make more space" utility. It usually will let me do that round of updates. But a couple days later its telling her insufficient storage again. Its quite annoying. Just glad to see the One doesn't have that issue. Once Verizon gets it I may upgrade to it.
My TL gives an warning says my internal storage is 75% full, but clearly I only used like 10%.
I transferred all my stuff to cloud (I don't have a SD card) and cleared the internal storage. Then it's been good for 2 weeks before the warning came back again. Now I can't even install apps because it says there's no sufficient storage. What is going on?
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My TL gives an warning says my internal storage is 75% full, but clearly I only used like 10%.
I transferred all my stuff to cloud (I don't have a SD card) and cleared the internal storage. Then it's been good for 2 weeks before the warning came back again. Now I can't even install apps because it says there's no sufficient storage. What is going on?
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Force close that service or disable the notification by holding it down from your notification pannel->info->disable notification
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Force close that service or disable the notification by holding it down from your notification pannel->info->disable notification
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Well I tried to ignore the notification but that's not a solution. It is a real problem. Now I got an Chrome update but it won't install because "Insufficient Storage".
ok now I've temporarily solved the problem by moving some apps from "phone" to "internal storage" (what does that even mean?)
so is there a "phone" storage separate from "internal storage"?
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ok now I've temporarily solved the problem by moving some apps from "phone" to "internal storage" (what does that even mean?)
so is there a "phone" storage separate from "internal storage"?
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Well, yes. You have 2GB reserved on your phone (from the 16gb internal) for apps. Then you can move a part of some apps to the internal. Thats why you only have like 10GB on your internal. And not the 16GB as the phone comes with. It also uses that space for apps,rom,...
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Well, yes. You have 2GB reserved on your phone (from the 16gb internal) for apps. Then you can move a part of some apps to the internal. Thats why you only have like 10GB on your internal. And not the 16GB as the phone comes with. It also uses that space for apps,rom,...
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I see. Can I put more space to the reserved? Like 4GB for apps and 8GB for internal storage?
I found out clearing the cache of Chrome and Google+ frees up a lot of memory.
Hi,
I'm trying to be patient and wait for the 32gb S5 to be available but:
Here's my question:
After you get your 16 gb S5, and then you install all your must have apps,
how much space is actually left on the internal storage????
This is assuming you put all your music,videos on a sd card.
Thanks, Ken
approximately, 9 GB left, yes all music,photos,video and some apps are on sdcard
You don't need 32. I have a crazy amount of apps, i use google music and i have tons of songs saved on my SD card. i have about 8.5 gigs still left on internal storage. see screenshot.
http://dl-1.va.us.xda-developers.co....png?key=tjiBFyssenWM0jkg5wvp0g&ts=1398887124
available space is 9.11GB
With 50 apps installed, available space is 9.11GB.
Space taken by .thumbnails (302 MB) and whatsapp (271MB mostly pictures and videos)
My photos, video, music are on SD card.
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With 50 apps installed, available space is 9.11GB.
Space taken by .thumbnails (302 MB) and whatsapp (271MB mostly pictures and videos)
My photos, video, music are on SD card.
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Hi,
And thanks for all your replies. On my S4 I have 2.62gb in apps and backup program I use.
So, doing the math, I can install everything on the 16 gb S5 and possibly have 7 plus gigs left.
I think that may work out well then!!!!
Ken
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Hi,
I'm trying to be patient and wait for the 32gb S5 to be available but:
Here's my question:
After you get your 16 gb S5, and then you install all your must have apps,
how much space is actually left on the internal storage????
This is assuming you put all your music,videos on a sd card.
Thanks, Ken
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I got about 8.4 go left and I have everything on my SD card and some of my apps. Before I moved my apps I had about 7.5 go left
TBH I was holding out for the GS5 32GB as well but finally caved as I didn't want to be stuck with the GN3 any longer. So far I installed my usual list of apps and I did move what apps I could and only the portion of the app that will transfer to the microSD card. My d/l of apps is usually about 1.5-1.8GB so after I moved the apps I have over 10GB left and I feel I can live with it.
That said IF Samsung doesn't start offering the GS in a 32GB version on the S6 and up I likely won't stay regardless of how much I like their hardware. For me you need MORE storage not less and the included bloatware was a joke. Oddly you could disable much more this time around compared to the GN3 including Flipboard but still I want more.
I use my S5 as my mobile media device and I have a 64gb external storage card cause my tab 3 doesn't support over 32gb. the fact that, one post said I don't need that much external memory is not a heavy user as others are.
My issue is that with os 4.4.x and later, they stopped allowing a user to write from device memory to external memory via apps. This sounds like an iphone setup to me. I have had all galaxy s series from the s2 to current s5 and to take that option to transfer from device memory to external storage memory via my apps is making me wonder about Android becoming more of an iPhone than an Android.
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i dunno, i've apps on my s5 that are happily maintaining data on the sd card i put in.
The default Camera among them.
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My issue is that with os 4.4.x and later, they stopped allowing a user to write from device memory to external memory via apps. This sounds like an iphone setup to me. I have had all galaxy s series from the s2 to current s5 and to take that option to transfer from device memory to external storage memory via my apps is making me wonder about Android becoming more of an iPhone than an Android.
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I second this complaint. Just another reason I want root.
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i dunno, i've apps on my s5 that are happily maintaining data on the sd card i put in.
The default Camera among them.
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@C0derbear.. my concern is the transferring of photos and videos from device folders to sd card folders using the prespective app for moving or copying on the S5
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'Prespective' app? I'll need to look that one up. Not familiar.
Do you mean 'perspective' by a54studio?
I thought by perspective apps, he meant apps like file explorers.
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I think Qwayke just made a typo. He meant to say *respective* apps.
Transferring using e included file manaher works fine to be sure. I do it all the time with pics downloaded from Web or FB.