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Backlight turns on, then after delay, message or call arrives

Hi everyone,
I've searched the forums through Google extensively trying to find out if anyone else is having the same problem that I am, but haven't been able to find any related threads.
I'm using the ATT Tilt with Dutty's WM6 ROM and the .17 radio -- I've noticed that when a text message arrives and my phone is in standby with the screen off, the backlight will turn on and then about 3-5 seconds later, the actual text message will show up on the screen or the call will show up...
I'm not sure if others are experiencing this and if anyone has a solution to it -- its not the end of the world if I have to live with it, was just hoping maybe someone else experienced the same thing and had found a solution...
Thank you very much!

Gas Addict said:
Hi everyone,
I've searched the forums through Google extensively trying to find out if anyone else is having the same problem that I am, but haven't been able to find any related threads.
I'm using the ATT Tilt with Dutty's WM6 ROM and the .17 radio -- I've noticed that when a text message arrives and my phone is in standby with the screen off, the backlight will turn on and then about 3-5 seconds later, the actual text message will show up on the screen or the call will show up...
I'm not sure if others are experiencing this and if anyone has a solution to it -- its not the end of the world if I have to live with it, was just hoping maybe someone else experienced the same thing and had found a solution...
Thank you very much!
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I have this too....I don't really mind though. I see it light up on my desk, look down, and watch my email/message appear.
I'm on Dutty's v4 and .11

Same experience here.
As long as this isn't the case with telephone calls, I can live with it
Having a 5 second delay on answering a phone call could make you miss the call...

dont really se the problem tbh, the phne wakes up when it starts receiving the message and then notifies you when its arrived - the lag you observe must be simply he time it takes to download the message?

Happens to me every time. I see my phone light up, and know I'm getting a message. When I get a call it lights up and instantly shows who's calling.

I agree this isn't so much a problem. I see it as FAD (Functioning As Designed).
See what happens is the Tower Sends a signal to the Phone saying (Incoming Call/Message Heading your way). It Wakes Up checks its Registry for What you set your Ringtone as. Tower passes the Call and It Rings. You Hit the Green Phone and You are connected YAY!
Now Messages are a tad different. The Phone wakes up looks for what your Message Alert Tone is. Tower Passes the Message. The Phone saves it, makes it into a readable format (If you have Threaded SMS adds it to the proper thread) and Notifies you that all is ready.

Same here, I like it. I can pick up the phone before it makes sound and have the phone already in my hand when the msg is showing up.

no different than when my non-3g phones would start chattering with the pc speakers a few seconds before an incoming call or message.

same here
i see no problem in this

snathanb said:
no different than when my non-3g phones would start chattering with the pc speakers a few seconds before an incoming call or message.
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I loved that!
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OT but... iPhone users are suing apple over that btw b/c it's blowing out their expensive home theater speakers. (no shielding due to thin design = DUCKA-DUCK-DUCKA-DUCK instead of ducka-duck-ducka-duck)

Sleuth255 said:
OT but... iPhone users are suing apple over that btw b/c it's blowing out their expensive home theater speakers. (no shielding due to thin design = DUCKA-DUCK-DUCKA-DUCK instead of ducka-duck-ducka-duck)
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Nuh uh. Lol, when I had my iPhone I had no chattering at all, only on crappy speakers.

Sleuth255 said:
OT but... iPhone users are suing apple over that btw b/c it's blowing out their expensive home theater speakers. (no shielding due to thin design = DUCKA-DUCK-DUCKA-DUCK instead of ducka-duck-ducka-duck)
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Yes I had a friend who went to the dark side and had a iPhone It was indeed LOUD. Never thought of suing Apple for it.
~~Tito~~ said:
Nuh uh. Lol, when I had my iPhone I had no chattering at all, only on crappy speakers.
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Well Think about that statement how many iPhone users are smart? Most are trend followers and don't know much about speakers probably got sold to them by some "winner" at Big Buy.

I have the same problem.

on mine too, but only for messaging.

Same problem for messaging and calls. I pretty think this glich is for all HTC phones. Seen this on HTC touch too.

I've had many different PDA phones over the last five years and used many different cooked ROMS (starting off with the original WM2003) and this has always been the normal behavior. Must be by design.

Hmm, I dunno if its about being by design as much as it has to do with the fact that from wakeup to showing the message it takes much longer on a complex PDA than it does on a simple phone with no complicated programs or settings in it.
IMHO it seems that because of all the bulk of software running on a PDA with an OS and all, it just isn't as efficient at doing simple small tasks as a regular non-PDA phone is....which I guess is the price we pay for carrying little computers in our pockets rather than a simple phone.

Gas Addict said:
Hmm, I dunno if its about being by design as much as it has to do with the fact that from wakeup to showing the message it takes much longer on a complex PDA than it does on a simple phone with no complicated programs or settings in it.
IMHO it seems that because of all the bulk of software running on a PDA with an OS and all, it just isn't as efficient at doing simple small tasks as a regular non-PDA phone is....which I guess is the price we pay for carrying little computers in our pockets rather than a simple phone.
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I would agree with that statement. My wife's razr lights up and rings instantaneously...but has the functionality of my big toe.

Alright Lets Put an End to this. this ISN'T a PROBLEM. Its how Phones Work If they are "asleep" or not in "Full Operation Mode" then it must "Wake" to fully operate the processes that are needed to do what it is asked. Start a Call, Receive a message, etc etc.
And just FYI, My Old V3 Razr would Turn on The Front screen a couple seconds before I received a message or a call.

HTC One vibration sound

Picked up this phone just today and my god I love this phone to death but every phone comes with complaints. Most things arent big and will just take time to get used to but this one I cannot ignore. I love having the vibrate on keypress option selected and the HTC One when it vibrates makes this very unpleasant loose spring like sound whenever it vibrates. Am I the only one thats noticed this or is this every device?
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app

many people do have this ... me too.... thats my second device and both of them got this crappy vibration sound...
i replaced it because of that .... but because of that i disabled every vibration functions on this phone to get rit of it ....
so i guess you have to live with it ... try to replace it and hope you get one with a good vibration motor or disable all vibrations

B-Man2005 said:
many people do have this ... me too.... thats my second device and both of them got this crappy vibration sound...
i replaced it because of that .... but because of that i disabled every vibration functions on this phone to get rit of it ....
so i guess you have to live with it ... try to replace it and hope you get one with a good vibration motor or disable all vibrations
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Isnt that due to the OIS? Not sure about but all of my 4 Ones had that. The One of a friend also sounds like that. I´m ok with it.

shox22 said:
Isnt that due to the OIS? Not sure about but all of my 4 Ones had that. The One of a friend also sounds like that. I´m ok with it.
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It's something you have to live with

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Isnt that due to the OIS? Not sure about but all of my 4 Ones had that. The One of a friend also sounds like that. I´m ok with it.
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I'm sure there will be soon an option in custom roms to control vibration intensity, and put it to the value you like! it's only a matter of time, I'm sure!

[I'm sure there will I am currently facing the same issue with my replacement and thinking about replacing it again but hesitant because every device comes with its own minor defects, u only notice the alight clicking in a very quite environment and only on short vibrates such as when typing, but to be honest this is as perfect as it can get, everything seems to work with this device with no problems except this, and I might apply for a replacement and end up with a worst unit and another major issue, I have emailed HTC complaining about their quality control, cuz my first device had gaps and a tiny hair under the screen, my second device had a touchscreen problem and now this one which has a minor vibration sound.
The problem is I am too picky when it comes to this kind of stuff and a little ocd about them so I am positive that other people won't even notice the issue and even the repair tech might claim it's normal and in all devices. So yeah
my device is work related so giving it to them for 2 full days is kind of troublesome for me

add me to the list
I have had my HTC One for 2 days now. I too noticed this on mine. I just chalked it up to the phone being all aluminum case vs my old EVO was plastic/metal. I have a few other complaints too lol.
Ok the rants!
1. Why did you have to move all the buttons all over the place? Seems like every button is opposite to other android phones? Especially moving the power button to the far left? Who designed this? Must of been a left handed person. Come on at least compromise and put in the middle! Stupid!
2. Why limit to only 3 buttons at the bottom of the HTC one and in all actuality...you never enabled the "HTC" to be a button so we are stuck with 2! Most phones have at least 3! Again Stupid!
3. The Home button and back buttons. Ok maybe the person designed this drives on the wrong side of the road or goes in the exit door or something? The buttons need to be flipped in my humble opinion. Home first (left side) or at least in the middle, back button to the left or right sides. OH and bring back the quick access button!
4. Ok speaking of the "HTC" logo/button at the bottom. Why put in circuitry for it to be a button and then not enable it? Stupid #3!
5. The widgets for "Bluetooth", Wireless", "Mobile", and "GPS". Why light blue for the "on notification". Seems like a **** poor color choice. At least a green or red would be fairly noticeable considering the widget itself is blue? Hello.....great designing there.
6. The power button. More recessed then ever before making it difficult to push down or even find. No step up here.
7. Lock screen can only have 1 widget on it? Really? Wow...couple steps back here.
8. Full animated weather locking screen gone/no longer available because HTC forces you to use their one and ONLY ONE version their crappy line art weather on the lock screen. I don't mind the plain jane weather for showing up in the app list but placing it on the bottom of the lock screen with nothing else is horrible. I want my weather back to the lock screen. I know I have mentioned it a lot...sorry pet peeve, have it it so long on all my other phones.
9. I won't mention Blinkfeed. I have that pushed off the side and hear that sense 5.5 is around the corner which will allow you to finally turn the damn thing off.

Hey guys, I wanted to point out that you can reduce the vibration intensity, therefore getting rid of the "springy" feeling! Just download FauxClock. (Yes you need root of course). Gratefully this app doesn't require you to flash anything, it just needs BusyBox. The only downside to reducing the intensity is after so far you basically lose haptic feedback. (I wanted to reduce notification buzz.) And this is where I went with plan B.
Plan B (NO ROOT!): This method, you guys, will make you feel real dumb for not thinking of. Personally I did this to get rid of notification buzz but keep haptic feedback, but you can also just turn off buzz on certain apps. Simply open up App-ops on Android 4.3, go through all your apps, and untick the "Vibration" permission! That's it guys! Feel dumb now?
Note: to open App-ops is an activity, you can download App-ops launchers from Play Store or, in my case, I used a Tasker task.
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My phone is spying on my face to face conversions...

Ok, so this should have been self evident to me from the start, but a couple real world examples have finally driven it home for me.
I met with my boss today, and during the meeting he mentioned a particular identity theft monitoring service he uses. Our meeting concluded, and I went back to my desk. The very next page I browsed to from my phone contained an ad for the service he mentioned. I did not search for it on this or any other device, nor can I think of a similar reason for it to suddenly start showing up in my (personalized) advertising. This is not the first time it's happened.
I see several posts and articles on the interwebs from others with similar stories. The Moto X in particular is troubling in this regard, for the same reason so many love it - it's ALWAYS listening. Screen can be off, focused on some other app, doesn't matter.
I attend meetings where sensitive information is frequently discussed, in addition to the many situations that most of us would like some privacy from time to time. I'd like to have my phone with me, and preferably not in a sound proof box.
Anyone have a similar experience?
Anyone know a definitive list of apps, launcher features, etc that would need to be disabled on my (unrooted) Verizon device in order to get a little privacy?
Off to dig up my tin foil hat and drag the cone of silence out of the garage...
Thanks!

Welcome to the digital age my friend!

It isn't the fact that it heard him say it. It happened because it is actually tapped into your thoughts and you thought about that service. A good Faraday cage should solve it though. At least temporarily.

Need some help with my new Phone

First of all, I love this phone. The main selling point for me was the massive battery and from there it's just getting better counting in the other features, but as always, nothing is perfect and I'm not that experienced with Android in general so figured I'd ask away here. As a disclaimer, for all the things below, I'm not interested in rooting the phone, feel free to write if rooting is the only option though and if doing so, what I am asking for would work.
Is there any way to turn off the volume warning? Like if you're going above 70%. Seems it's a lot less aggressive than on my old S9 though.
Is there any way to add a few more steps to the volume? It appears 15 is the highest volume at the moment. And the highest volume is a bit low for my taste, when listening to music. I'm using BOSE QC20's and while they sound great, I could use a few more steps. I used some App on my S9 but it didn't really sound that well. For comparison, on the PC you can put VLC on 200% AND turn up the volume on the headset as well, if you want.
What kind of screen protection would you advice? Or shouldn't I bother with that?
How water resistant is the phone? All I know is that there is no classification yet. Even it isn't, how would you rate it? Go Swimming? Drop it in a pool of water? Walk with it in the rain? Or panic if one droplet gets anywhere close to the speakers?
Can I dual charge the phone? As in, if the Fan is connected, can I put one charger in the bottom Type-C port and one into the fan?
What happens if I put the charger in the Red sideport? Not that I would, just curious as I saw a warning saying not to.
Similar to the dual charge, would a PC gaming headset work on the phone that uses 2 3.5mm pins? The sound pin would go into the fan and the mic pin would go into the bottom slot of the phone, or vice versa?
I've been trying to change the Notification sound and ringtone for Whatsapp using the same sounds I had for my S9. I've added both (Orange & Whisper) but they just don't want to work. I made them in .mp4 (aac), .mp3 & .oog formats. When I select them in the list, they are played as they should but when I get a message and/or recieve a call, the latest (standard) signal is instead used.
Update: I managed to get the notification sound to work now (Whisper). By going into the Phone Settings -> Notifications -> WhatsApp. Seems that option in there would override the App Settings. However, when I get a call now, BOTH the original ringtone and the S9 (Orange) one is played ontop of each other.
While we are on WhatsApp, how can I remove the big notifications. Like, there's 2 types. The one at the top of the screen (I want this) and then it's the big popup in the middle of the screen (that has a reply field and some more options (I don't want this). I remember it was a hassle to get rid of on my S9 so thought I'd ask.
Bug or feature? When I'm inside a program and exit back to the Home screen, I've noticed the "locked" bottom row starts jumping, as if they want to swipe up. I'm using the Two-Layer mode. Not sure if it's a bug or a feature "showing" me there's stuff down there.
Last but not least, can I move the clock on the lockscreen? It's currently in the top left corner, I'd prefer to have it centered.
Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance!

I've replied in line to the questions I can answer.
How water resistant is the phone? All I know is that there is no classification yet. Even it isn't, how would you rate it? Go Swimming? Drop it in a pool of water? Walk with it in the rain? Or panic if one droplet gets anywhere close to the speakers?
Not very, there doesn't appear to be any waterproofing, check the sim card tray for example, no rubber seal.
Can I dual charge the phone? As in, if the Fan is connected, can I put one charger in the bottom Type-C port and one into the fan?
You could but the phone isn't going to charge twice as fast, I think it'll likely only charge from one port but shouldn't do any damage.
What happens if I put the charger in the Red sideport? Not that I would, just curious as I saw a warning saying not to.
People say it dies but I haven't tried it, it's not the same as a C port so you'd have to force it.
Similar to the dual charge, would a PC gaming headset work on the phone that uses 2 3.5mm pins? The sound pin would go into the fan and the mic pin would go into the bottom slot of the phone, or vice versa?
No, there's no mic in option afaik.
Bug or feature? When I'm inside a program and exit back to the Home screen, I've noticed the "locked" bottom row starts jumping, as if they want to swipe up. I'm using the Two-Layer mode. Not sure if it's a bug or a feature "showing" me there's stuff down there.
Probably a feature as I think I've seen that on some pixel launchers but I don't use the stock one personally.

1) There isn't;
2) You can only set Outdoor Mode on, but the volume will go up, no volume steps wil be added;
3) I think you should go for one with good comments, since you have the fingerscan under the display and a screen protection may void It;
4) the phone is not certified for water/dust resistance. So, just avoid contact with water. Tho, I don't think some raindrop will ruin it;
5) You cannot dual charge the phone;
6) The Red sideport is a Trademark Port made by Asus exclusively for their optional accessories. So, just leave It alone if you don't wanna be sorry;
7) No such phone will ever have the drivers made for Windows/MacOs which makes the headset to work on a personal computer;
8) You can have this setted on the Sound Settings;
9) You can have this setted on the Notification Settings;
10) that's a feature;
11) you must use third part apps for that.

Thank you so much, both of you.
The volume warning is a lot less of a pain than I initially thought. The one on the S9 is rather agressive so had some bad experiences. Can't say I notice any diff with Outdoor mode but I'll try more later, suppose it's fine.
Good point about the screen protection, I'll definately keep the fingerprint sensor in mind.
The waterproofing, or non-waterproofing rather is one of the Con's of the phone I suppose. Not that it's an issue but I'd rather not care at all as I could with my old phone. Thanks for clarifying though. My dad lost his old iPhone 6 to having his phone in the rain so I kinda know the limit then (as that also lacked any kind of cert).
No dual charging, makes sense. One takes prio.
Yeah, I'll not mess with the red port. @willhemmens, dies as in "throw the phone and buy a new one" or "phone shuts off but just restart and it's fine". (Like, battery is dead/dies). Just curious here really.
I see, that's too bad. Suppose I'd have to get one of those 2 becomes 1 3.5mm cable adapters.
@NajimKiSaad, that's just for the phone ringtone/sms though? This is for Whatsapp exclusively. It's as if a WhatsApp call triggers as a normal call as well as it's own settings, kinda.
Hm, where? Settings -> Apps & Notifications -> WhatsApp -> Notifications, it's set to - Behavior: Make Sound. Same in the App itself, Popup is not enabled anywhere.
"Bug or feature? When I'm inside a program and exit back to the Home screen, I've noticed the "locked" bottom row starts jumping, as if they want to swipe up. I'm using the Two-Layer mode. Not sure if it's a bug or a feature "showing" me there's stuff down there."
Well, that's good to know. How do I disable it? I just find it annyoing.
And for the clock widget on the Lockscreen, any recommendations? I like the style of the default one, just the position is kinda off.
Once again, thanks for all the answers!

Not related to your questions but have you felt that this phone just cuts off the internet connection to Whatsapp? I don't get notifications after a while and the Whatsapp Web says that my phone is not connected to internet even though there is internet. Whatsapp only starts working when I open this app. Then, I get all the messages. I have allowed unrestricted internet access to this app and turned off battery optimization for this app. Any ideas?

That's interesting, I haven't had it as you describe it no but since I got the phone, I've noticed the "last online" doesn't always show on my friend I have on WA. Could be that she has turned it off but it works sometimes.
Looking at the top bar on the phone, I added internet speed and it says 0 B/s quite often so my guess is that it only uses internet on demand, maybe it has something to do with that?
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Think I might have seen a post about it too, could be wrong though.

Help disabling or finding another workaround for the recent apps screen due to its use in getting around productivity app blockers.

Hi,
I'm new to the forum, but I have a problem that seems too specific to be able to look for advice anywhere else. I have a Samsung S10 5g with Exynos SoC.
I have ADHD that can severely hamper my ability to do focused work when I can't eliminate distractions. Life has changed to the point that I can't get around without a smart phone (I couldn't log into my work account without using 2FA on a mobile app as the only option, for example), but I recently discovered that the paid version of BlockSite actually did quite a good job of locking down my phone with the option to unlock it by a password known only to my wife whenever that's needed.
That worked well for me for several months, and productivity soared as did the quality of my relationship. The problem is, the app has to be airtight. When ADHD brain pain sets in, nothing else matters to me more than breaking into my phone to mindlessly browse and ease the pain. And after a few months I was regularly spam tapping on apps on my recently viewed apps screen to try and force it to stay open. It fell apart completely when I accidentally opened split screen mode and realised that the BlockSite block screen only takes up half the screen. Since then, the app has been useless and I tend to browse in those difficult times as much as I ever used to.
It doesn't matter how I accomplish it, rooting or otherwise, but id like to find a way to completely disable recent apps functionality to bring BlockSite back to being functional for me.
I'm currently seeking treatment through other means, but it would be a huge help to me regardless if this were possible. Any help would be greatly appreciated.