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When to expect > GHz Winmobile phones? Qualcomm has a chipset QSD8250/8650 for a while, though haven't found any appliance for it.
Htc has one on the website...
Shift i think. . I could be wrong about the name anyways it is a 1.3ghz pentium processor and 30 gig on board harddrive. And its quad band 3g and edge network. with a 7 inch screen..... Full Vista .....oh yeah its like 1600 bucks but hey just wait it will come down...
fingers crossed
Timdawg....
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I believe he said WINMOBILE PHONE, not an UMPC. big difference. I dont think we'll see those specs for some time.
We'll see those Processors once we get better batteries that can handle 'em.
higher temp if the higher speed that's why dual core and quad-core processors are made so that they run at lower speeds and generate less heat but i think also needs less energy because lower speed. it would be more likely that we get in the future a dual processor running at 200mhz, 500mhz, or 600mhz or we just get a 800mhz chip with a high cap. battery but it wont be nice when the batt explodes.
a ghz processor would use up like 15-20 watts when running on full so its somehow not practical as of now.
battery life is given utmost priority in handheld devices.
I figure that XDA is full of tech heads, and they influence my choice on mobiles, so why not my choice of laptops
Narrowed it down to three:
1) HP/Compaq Mini 311 - 11.6" screen, 1.66GHz Atom N280 CPU + Discrete Nvidia Ion GPU (~$400 with Windows XP, 1GB DDR3 RAM, Wifi b/g, no Bluetooth)
2) ASUS 1201N - 12.1" screen, 1.6GHz Dual-Core Atom N330 CPU + Discrete Nvidia Ion GPU (~$500 with Windows 7, 2GB DDR2 RAM, Wifi b/g/n, Bluetooth)
3) Acer 1410/1810 - 11.6" screen, 1.2GHz Dual-Core Celeron CULV SU2300 CPU + Integrated Intel GMA9400MHD GPU (~$430 with Windows 7, 2GB DDR2 RAM, Wifi b/g/n, No Bluetooth)
All have HDMI out, and feature 1366×768 resolution. HDD size not important to me.
You should probably list the prices and maybe specs of each to show everyone the price differences. It might make voting easier.
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You should probably list the prices and maybe specs of each to show everyone the price differences. It might make voting easier.
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thanks man, i changed my original post
I have had two Asus and would recommend them highly... Had the original Asus EEE PC and now am rocking the Asus 1005HA (ridiculous battery life). One thing, tho, I don't think any of the laptops you are looking at can be considered "netbooks", screen is too large (I think most netbooks can be classified as having a 10.1" screen or smaller)...
the RMA for manufactors had hp as highest and acer pretty high too
and Asus won along with toshiba
kinda match the issues I had with both hp and acer laptops breaking on me
I recently made up my mind to get the ASUS 1201N - 12.1" screen! I liked all the reviews about it...
samster786 said:
I figure that XDA is full of tech heads, and they influence my choice on mobiles, so why not my choice of laptops
Narrowed it down to three:
1) HP/Compaq Mini 311 - 11.6" screen, 1.66GHz Atom N280 CPU + Discrete Nvidia Ion GPU (~$400 with Windows XP, 1GB DDR3 RAM, Wifi b/g, no Bluetooth)
2) ASUS 1201N - 12.1" screen, 1.6GHz Dual-Core Atom N330 CPU + Discrete Nvidia Ion GPU (~$500 with Windows 7, 2GB DDR2 RAM, Wifi b/g/n, Bluetooth)
3) Acer 1410/1810 - 11.6" screen, 1.2GHz Dual-Core Celeron CULV SU2300 CPU + Integrated Intel GMA9400MHD GPU (~$430 with Windows 7, 2GB DDR2 RAM, Wifi b/g/n, No Bluetooth)
All have HDMI out, and feature 1366×768 resolution. HDD size not important to me.
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Of the choices you listed I would go for the ASUS 1201N. It is a bit expensive though as far as netbooks are concerned. (IMO) Amazon has it for $482.43 before tax / shipping.
I'd say for maximum performance, go for the Asus 1201N. Can't go wrong with the Atom 330 for cpu power and the Ion..i believe you can run some fairly decent games with that! Of course, battery will be a killer, so if you're planning on using it for long hauls, this might not be the best.
For balance of work and play the Compaq/HP Mini 11 isn't too bad, and for a little bit more you can upgrade the memory! A little bit easier on the battery, but the Ion is sort of a killer. However, like i said, it'll definitely do well with some games, and HD playback.
Sorry, Acers aren't my favorite..I've worked with many of my friends' Acer laptops, and I've had issues with upgrading the hardware. Also, Acer doesn't carry too much support with their older models for OS and driver support. However, I think the battery life might compensate for a few of its downsides, aka slower processor (though less battery consumption since it's ULV) and integrated graphics that don't tie it up too much.
If I were to make the purchase, I'd go for the Compaq/HP Mini 11. It has DDR3 ram support and that'll give you the most performance (DDR2 is almost at the brink of phaseout for desktops, and will follow suit for laptops), and buying a ram stick for it will only cost a bit more to get even more of an edge. While yes, it's only a single core processor, I'm using my Asus EEE 901 for two years now with it's single core N270, and since my SSD upgrade it's been a true performer on the go. I'd say the HDD would be the least common denominator for a netbook. Paired with an nVidia Ion chipset, you can see that multimedia will be a very good mobile experience!
Hopefully this has been helpful and not too much information to chew at once. But I wish you the best on your purchase!
I just purchased a HP Mini 311. I didn't have enough to upgrade it but i got the 1.6ghz 1gb setup with XP. I'll post some pictures and tell you how it is once it's here (tuesday)
Wait for a Alienware M11x if youre into games.... :d
But expensive...
anyways - havent read anything about the this Asus model, but theyre been good!!!
Hello;
I just received my Note 3 (N900W8) with Rogers Canada.
Ran Antutu and on stock w/o root I've been getting around 27000-31000 on multiple dry runs.
So out of curiosity I ran System Tuner with CPU Core addon, ran Antutu again, and I notice that cores 2 and 3 never activate (i.e. 0 activity). It's only cores 0 and 1 maxing out at 100%.
Is this normal? Under what circumstances would the rest of the two cores activate?
I had this same issue. I rebooted and re ran the benchmark and the other two cores became active. I have no clue why that happened.
That's normal, if all cores are constantly running we would get crappy battery life. They kick in depending on the demand , the higher the demand the more cores it will use.
RoloRacer on Note3 N900A
roloracer said:
That's normal, if all cores are constantly running we would get crappy battery life. They kick in depending on the demand , the higher the demand the more cores it will use.
RoloRacer on Note3 N900A
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True but benchmarking the system taxes it pretty hard I would think the cores should kick in doesnt seem right to me
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True but benchmarking the system taxes it pretty hard I would think the cores should kick in doesnt seem right to me
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That's exactly it. Two of the cores do not activate under benchmark which I find very unsettling. My replacement phone is under way though so I will see in a few days. This phone also has dead pixels. I may have gotten like the worst Note 3 lol.
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http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/04/in-depth-with-the-snapdragon-810s-heat-problems/
This articles above shows that you don't always get what you paid for when you buy the newest bleeding edge tech. It's about the the thermal throttling in the Snapdragon 800 series SoC's. The good ones the bad ones and it def hows a pattern of things being worse off during the beginning of a number in the in the "x" placement ----> 8x0.
Seems like big buyers are being experimented with a bit, tisk, tisk.
Now let's discuss
I would like to see this test redone with all SoCs undervolted as far as they will go.
I just want to add 2 things to this discussion:
1) Every mobile device will throttle at some point. This is the only way the SoC is able to manage its temperatures in a device that has zero active cooling. Either the user stops using the phone and it cools down or they continue using it and it will throttle.
2) It is the phone manufacturer's responsibility to design a phone and chassis that can support the thermal requirements of the SoC they have chosen for their device. If a phone over heats or the SoC is so throttled that it can never reach it's maximum clock speed (such as the Snapdragon 810 in the HTC M9) then the phone was designed poorly (based on the required specifications) and they should have chosen a lower power SoC.
I can't understand what manufacturers are looking for when they pack such CPUs in their flagship phones: the speed of a SD 801 is still cutting edge, and it has been the only chip capable of combining acceptable power consumption with top performance lately.
I'm a N5 owner, and really can't complain about speed, but that is just because CPU-intensive tasks, like rendering a webpage or opening an app, often last for just a few seconds, during which the phone doesn't heat up enough for thermal throttling to intervene. I rarely play games with my phone.
If Qualcomm focussed on reducing power consumption in the last couple of years, instead of searching for overly high performances, now we'd probably have phones with the SD 800's speed, but lasting two days, and with consistent performances during every kind of usage.
Damn it Qua!comm instead of jamming reference cores in to chips get cracking optimizing drivers to get more performance out of existing products. The Adreno driver overhead is embrassing.
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I can't understand what manufacturers are looking for when they pack such CPUs in their flagship phones: the speed of a SD 801 is still cutting edge, and it has been the only chip capable of combining acceptable power consumption with top performance lately.
I'm a N5 owner, and really can't complain about speed, but that is just because CPU-intensive tasks, like rendering a webpage or opening an app, often last for just a few seconds, during which the phone doesn't heat up enough for thermal throttling to intervene. I rarely play games with my phone.
If Qualcomm focussed on reducing power consumption in the last couple of years, instead of searching for overly high performances, now we'd probably have phones with the SD 800's speed, but lasting two days, and with consistent performances during every kind of usage.
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The Exynos 7420 delivers better performance, better thermal management and better efficiency.
thermal throttle, whats that?? ive disabled thermal throttle on every nexus thats ever had it, since the n4 that's the n4, n5, and now n6. but the n6 is the best at not getting hot. as i cant get it over 82C ever.
The problem is and it applies to terrible battery life is thin phones. We just do not need skinny phones. It's like women. We have been brainwashed into thinking thin phones and thin women are both sexy. I dislike women with a toastrack ribcage and would love my nexus 5 to be twice as thick. No throttling and huge battery life...
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The Exynos 7420 delivers better performance, better thermal management and better efficiency.
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Only because its on 14nm, if it would be built on 20nm it would throttle down just like the sd810. This isn't so much qualcomm's fault as it is arm's fault, the a53/a57 cores are simply too power hungry, the sd805 with a7/a15 cores barely gets throttled at 20nm.
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The problem is and it applies to terrible battery life is thin phones. We just do not need skinny phones. It's like women. We have been brainwashed into thinking thin phones and thin women are both sexy. I dislike women with a toastrack ribcage and would love my nexus 5 to be twice as thick. No throttling and huge battery life...
Sent from my Nexus 5
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I agree with the battery part... As for women I like a nice toned women.
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Only because its on 14nm, if it would be built on 20nm it would throttle down just like the sd810. This isn't so much qualcomm's fault as it is arm's fault, the a53/a57 cores are simply too power hungry, the sd805 with a7/a15 cores barely gets throttled at 20nm.
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your post conflicts by itself lol.
Also the 805 is a krait 400(or 500 can´t remember) architeture based on the a50 (the 800/801 are a15, and the 400 is based on the a7 with some variants based on the a9). Basicly the 805 runs a proprietary cpu architeture made after the a50 one, with the armv8 instruction set.
However the 810 runs the a51/53 instruction set, with no modifications, straight from ARM.and that´s something qualcomm didnt do for a long time,and as we can see the 810 WAS rushed to the market(the whole 64bit race)
Now for the thread, talking about the 800 series (since its what we have),it seems to have a good performance-heat ratio,however we feel it on our nexus due to poor thermal design, in the case of the n4/n5 the shield used to spread the heat don´t even touch the SOC lmao.
Talking qualcomm in general, i cant understand why they still have fails, having more than 15years of experience (10+ being with their own custom cores) i would expect them to not have these issues, but they still do.Also not going back much to the past, see the snap S4 gen 1 series(i.e the krait 200 variants, USA´S S3, Nexus 4 and such), they also have hw bugs(for instance, only the first core can go to fully deep sleep), thats something i would expect for a new player, not one with 15 years of experience(to make things even worse, qualcomm has been on the ARM market pretty much since the ARM arch/instruction set came out)
Also to OP, the 615,610,410,210 are all good socs, so the YXY pattern isn´t something here
However i must remember you guys, the one to blame here after all IS qualcomm, we dont have fully documentations and technical details or for most of you(including me) fully understanding of how a cpu is made / works but the a51 / 53 cores itself are fine, one player to see its the exynos 7220 on the s6, it runs a MALI gpu(which is from ARM,) and runs a53/51 architeture with a few modifications(not to the arch itself, but to the chip, make more thermal efficient, support samsung own branded chips, modems ,etc) and it runs better than the 810.
Also what made the 810 look worse is the drivers, adreno drivers sucks (sorry for the word, but this is more of a rant), my 4 year old MALI 400MP gpu haves about the same performance as my 2013´s adreno 330 (s3 exynos 4420 + mali 400mp vs nexus 5 snap 800 + adreno 330)
@opssemnik No way your mali 400MP is faster than an andreno 330
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@opssemnik No way your mali 400MP is faster than an andreno 330
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It really isnt in raw power or optmized games(gta sa and the newest NFS)but on the rest(even gta vice city) my s3 can keep up, and in fact due to better thermal design it can outstand the n5 after some time of playing
Nothing wrong with toned. But this craze of super thin is crazy. As for batteries if some one had come out with a replacement back with a huge battery inthat sloped to the camera that clipped in to replace the other I'd of been in heaven. My Nexus is in a heavy Spiegen case and I'm always amazed how skinny it is when I take it out to clean. I prefer it in the case. Feels better built
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Besides the color.
No difference at all.
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No. I think the gold may be a gram or two heavier. But that's something only a scale can notice
So no difference at all? There are two cpu listed out in here http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_3-7995.php which confused me a lil bit. Does this mean that op3 has both cpu inside or what?
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So no difference at all? There are two cpu listed out in here http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_3-7995.php which confused me a lil bit. Does this mean that op3 has both cpu inside or what?
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Cpu with big.LITTLE core clusters, android had these for 2+ years now..