Hello;
I just received my Note 3 (N900W8) with Rogers Canada.
Ran Antutu and on stock w/o root I've been getting around 27000-31000 on multiple dry runs.
So out of curiosity I ran System Tuner with CPU Core addon, ran Antutu again, and I notice that cores 2 and 3 never activate (i.e. 0 activity). It's only cores 0 and 1 maxing out at 100%.
Is this normal? Under what circumstances would the rest of the two cores activate?
I had this same issue. I rebooted and re ran the benchmark and the other two cores became active. I have no clue why that happened.
That's normal, if all cores are constantly running we would get crappy battery life. They kick in depending on the demand , the higher the demand the more cores it will use.
RoloRacer on Note3 N900A
roloracer said:
That's normal, if all cores are constantly running we would get crappy battery life. They kick in depending on the demand , the higher the demand the more cores it will use.
RoloRacer on Note3 N900A
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True but benchmarking the system taxes it pretty hard I would think the cores should kick in doesnt seem right to me
powdered_donuts said:
True but benchmarking the system taxes it pretty hard I would think the cores should kick in doesnt seem right to me
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That's exactly it. Two of the cores do not activate under benchmark which I find very unsettling. My replacement phone is under way though so I will see in a few days. This phone also has dead pixels. I may have gotten like the worst Note 3 lol.
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Those of you that have your hands on the note 4 already. Does it seam to get pretty warm while using it? The back side to me felt a lot warmer then I would expect from a portable device. I have to be honest I am used to having a hard case on my note 3 so maybe this is normal.
Thanks for your input
Linux Larry
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Those of you that have your hands on the note 4 already. Does it seam to get pretty warm while using it? The back side to me felt a lot warmer then I would expect from a portable device. I have to be honest I am used to having a hard case on my note 3 so maybe this is normal.
Thanks for your input
Linux Larry
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I haven't noticed it myself but it is not unnatural that a device gets a bit warm with extended usage. Downloading, streaming, gaming etc will somewhat stress the device. Especially the more you're doing at one time. Happened to my Nexus 5 all the time.
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Those of you that have your hands on the note 4 already. Does it seam to get pretty warm while using it? The back side to me felt a lot warmer then I would expect from a portable device. I have to be honest I am used to having a hard case on my note 3 so maybe this is normal.
Thanks for your input
Linux Larry
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and, since you are in Florida, its still summer there I assume, so its bound to be warmer than it might be here in the beautiful midwest
plus, getting a new phone warm is gonna happen, since you probably havent put it down for more than 10 minutes so far
devynbf said:
I haven't noticed it myself but it is not unnatural that a device gets a bit warm with extended usage. Downloading, streaming, gaming etc will somewhat stress the device. Especially the more you're doing at one time. Happened to my Nexus 5 all the time.
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Thanks. It did take about 20-25 minutes of solid usage before it started to warm up. I do not typically keep the phone on that long but of course i had to configure everything over again so it had longer then average use on it.
Just got mine today and it got a little hot when I applied the OTA update! I'm going to watch it!
Mine got pretty warm after rooting and working it to apply all of my root apps. But it's not hot enough to worry about.
Let the phone settle in. You want a hot phone. Record 4k video for 2 min.
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It definitely gets warmer than my m8 did. Nothing alarming though.
Mine run very cool under heavy usage and i play lots of graphic intensive Games one of those games being Solforge which use to get the Note 3 very warm...but note i got Power Saving restrict cpu performance on which I think drops cpu to about 1.3Ghz each
Mine is far cooler than my note3 and note2. Very heavy use and its rooted , never warm to the touch
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Mine run very cool under heavy usage and i play lots of graphic intensive Games one of those games being Solforge which use to get the Note 3 very warm...but note i got Power Saving restrict cpu performance on which I think drops cpu to about 1.3Ghz each
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Where did u get that setting from
NOTE 4
I've searched around and couldn't find any good threads about this:
My note 4 (N910U) gets pretty hot when I'm playing regular games (Tsum Tsum, Wind Runner) and I'm thinking that this is what is causing it to lag.
I.e. When I start playing everything is super smooth, and then about 2-3 minutes in when the phone is getting hot, the frames start dropping and it lags pretty bad.
This happend with my note 2 as well. Is it normal or should I try to send it in to samsung somehow? (in which case does anyone have any experience with samsung customer service? I bought the note 4 from HK but I live in Japan :/)
arange said:
I've searched around and couldn't find any good threads about this:
My note 4 (N910U) gets pretty hot when I'm playing regular games (Tsum Tsum, Wind Runner) and I'm thinking that this is what is causing it to lag.
I.e. When I start playing everything is super smooth, and then about 2-3 minutes in when the phone is getting hot, the frames start dropping and it lags pretty bad.
This happend with my note 2 as well. Is it normal or should I try to send it in to samsung somehow? (in which case does anyone have any experience with samsung customer service? I bought the note 4 from HK but I live in Japan :/)
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I encountered something like this before even without playing games. Check if you have this issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/upper-screen-getting-hot-t3103904
My Knox is already turned off and theres been no real difference from before.
edit: Looks like setting it to force GPU rendere helps slightly overall (the sum off all things since some parts get much nicer some parts are the same, a few parts are laggier... )
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My Knox is already turned off and theres been no real difference from before.
edit: Looks like setting it to force GPU rendere helps slightly overall (the sum off all things since some parts get much nicer some parts are the same, a few parts are laggier... )
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Actually by enabling that option will affect your battery. Haven't done that on my Note 4 but tried that on my previous phone which is LG G2. Definitely it will be faster on rendering but it adds consumption on the battery. And also if the CPU is still overheating, the speed will still throttle down and still affects the applications that relies on CPU. Did you do any customization? If yes, incompatible kernel can be an issue also.
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Try installing this application. This application helped me track the application that is hogging my phone which is the Knox on my case. Look for a process that has a high cpu usage.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bartat.android.elixir&hl=en
CPU throttling plague is main disadvantage of this phone (and many others too).
Samsung should be aware of this, and they are, but don't give a s**t. This expensive Phone lags as hell on some more demanding games.
For instance, Crossy Road lags after few minutes of playing, Ski Safari too, Subway surf....
No more buying Samsung s**t if this issue continues..
I feel sorry I sold my Note II, never had this problems with it.
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CPU throttling plague is main disadvantage of this phone (and many others too).
Samsung should be aware of this, and they are, but don't give a s**t. This expensive Phone lags as hell on some more demanding games.
For instance, Crossy Road lags after few minutes of playing, Ski Safari too, Subway surf....
No more buying Samsung s**t if this issue continues..
I feel sorry I sold my Note II, never had this problems with it.
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Under clock it slightly. That will stop it reaching the temperature that throttles the CPU/GPU all the way down, but still keep good enough performance
The CPU's don't throttle very aggressively and work the clock speeds down fairly evenly so you won;t be able to manage it better yourself by underclocking.
the GPU on the other hand stock uses some pretty crazy throttle steps which knocks the clock speed way down in one step which is probably what most people notice while gaming. You can try fiddling with the max states to try and work it better, but if it gets hot enough to throttle then it will just settle down to it's base state of performance.
I do wonder what people expect when they states these things are 'issues' or it's 'Samsung ****'. Welcome to the world where phones are designed for burst performance only. The Power consumption of pretty much any phone SoC from the past 4-5 years is high enough that clock speeds will be dropping (way) down once you put any extended load on the device. There are SoC design choices that can help with this (very wide cores running at low clockspeeds/voltages) and process node improvements usually come with an increase of steady state performance but there is simply no getting away from the fact that phones can't maintain performance because they are just too small.
getting more performance when you're limited to maybe 2.5watts long term TDP is a challenge. Only way to actually improve it is to undervolt your device, which can help quite a bit if you can drive the voltages down by a decent amount.
OK, I would ask which flagship Samsung phone not older than 2-3 years throttles the least? I'm ready to swap it with Note 4.
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OK, I would ask which flagship Samsung phone not older than 2-3 years throttles the least? I'm ready to swap it with Note 4.
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The Note 4 probably runs the coolest. I have a N910F, it only heats up with very heavy games like Real Racing, the CPU generally stays cool though.
Maybe activate CPU Power Saving and Force GPU rendering to try balance out the heat and power? Thats what I would do.
My Nexus 6 gets very hot, especially installing a new Rom or rebooting. I just measured my screen temp (with a laser thermometer) installing a new Rom and the front of my screen was 109f and my back cover was 106f. Is this normal?
My phone is extreamly unstable. 1/4 of the roms I install won't boot up and the Roms that I can install half the screen freezes. Do I have a dud? I bought it on google play 6 months ago and I am very unhappy with it. It is extremely unstable.
Is this high temperature normal? I am in my house with the AC at 74f.
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My Nexus 6 gets very hot, especially installing a new Rom or rebooting. I just measured my screen temp (with a laser thermometer) installing a new Rom and the front of my screen was 109f and my back cover was 106f. Is this normal?
My phone is extreamly unstable. 1/4 of the roms I install won't boot up and the Roms that I can install half the screen freezes. Do I have a dud? I bought it on google play 6 months ago and I am very unhappy with it. It is extremely unstable.
Is this high temperature normal? I am in my house with the AC at 74f.
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um, thats not hot. its very slightly warm. human body temp averages at 98.6F, youre quad cores device screen temp is 106f. btw, your n6 cpu can go up to 212F, the boiling point of water at sea level, before it shuts down to cool off.
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um, thats not hot. its very slightly warm. human body temp averages at 98.6F, youre quad cores device screen temp is 106f. btw, your n6 cpu can go up to 212F, the boiling point of water at sea level, before it shuts down to cool off.
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The screen just hit 117f. Not the most comfortable thing to have on the side of you're face.
I guess I don't want 4 cores in a phone if it's going to act like a heater. I had a note 4 and it never did this.
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The screen just hit 117f. Not the most comfortable thing to have on the side of you're face.
I guess I don't want 4 cores in a phone if it's going to act like a heater. I had a note 4 and it never did this.
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maybe not. but nexus do. i doesnt bother me, and i disable thermal throttle upon every boot.
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maybe not. but nexus do. i doesnt bother me, and i disable thermal throttle upon every boot.
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How do you disable it?
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How do you disable it?
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in a terminal emulator app, type..
su(press enter)
echo N > /sys/module/msm_thermal/parameters/enabled(press enter)
Greetings:
My Note 5 benchmarked consistent with reviews when I first got it. Over the past couple of months, however, benchmarks scores are about 10% to 25% lower. Phone feels a little laggy as well.
Geekbench and Basemark report that the CPU is running at 1.5 GHz. I'm wondering if my phone got stuck on the little cores somehow. Do others' Note 5s also show 1.5 GHz running Geekebench or Basemark?
Thanks!
Mines always bench low since day one it never get close to the note 5 score they have on there . Mine always be right under the nexus 6
So I have the 4G version of the s20 fe and it overheats alot. When I am gaming or even charging the phone it heats up quite a bit (around 36-38*)
Software update did seem to fix it a bit but it still heats up. Any soulution?
P.S: I am not rooted. I use it at 120hz
there are things that can be done by rooting but you probably wouldn't like the idea of them if you game.
3mel said:
there are things that can be done by rooting but you probably wouldn't like the idea of them if you game.
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Ok can you please tell? Maybe I change my mind
Fix Exynos 990 battery drain and Overheating Issues -[ It works ]
I have the exynos 990 version of the S20 FE and as we all know, the 990 is a little bit of a hot mess. However it has quite a lot to give if limited correctly.I'm running One UI 3.1 on android 11. I rooted my FE with magisk and installed Franco...
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Thx and also the charging speed is VERY SLOW
Fast charging is enabled and I am using 15W Charger
Any way to fix this as well?
idk... clean the port out and clean the cable connection.
Cheetah1020 said:
Thx and also the charging speed is VERY SLOW
Fast charging is enabled and I am using 15W Charger
Any way to fix this as well?
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If too cold or hot fast charging will not engage.
Best start temperature is 85°F
Keep below 100°F when charging/using. Use a damp microfiber cloth and/or fan to cool.
Find apps causing the drain.
Try disabling all power management* first then get to it.
Clear system cache and system logs.
Cloud backup apps are prime suspects.
Disable Google play Services when not needed.
Do a factory reset if you updated the OS version or if you used Smart Switch to transfer data/settings from a different phone.
*can cause excessive battery consumption and erratic behavior.
blackhawk said:
If too cold or hot fast charging will not engage.
Best start temperature is 85°F
Keep below 100°F when charging/using. Use a damp microfiber cloth and/or fan to cool.
Find apps causing the drain.
Try disabling all power management* first then get to it.
Clear system cache and system logs.
Cloud backup apps are prime suspects.
Disable Google play Services when not needed.
Do a factory reset if you updated the OS version or if you used Smart Switch to transfer data/settings from a different phone.
*can cause excessive battery consumption and erratic behavior.
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Ty
Hello!
I have a question: what is mongoose cores and what happens if I disable it via root?
Cheetah1020 said:
Hello!
I have a question: what is mongoose cores and what happens if I disable it via root?
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they're the 2 most powerful cores on your chip, some believe they are the reason for the heat.
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they're the 2 most powerful cores on your chip, some believe they are the reason for the heat.
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So if I disable them will it effect performance?
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So if I disable them will it effect performance?
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yes it would but it's reversible, you can see how much it effects usage and if you like it or not.
Find the apks that are spiking it... don't kill the messenger.
Some apks like Google play Services poll the internet 2, 3 times a minute, every minute.
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Find the apks that are spiking it... don't kill the messenger.
Some apks like Google play Services poll the internet 2, 3 times a minute, every minute.
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it's not really an app thing it's an Exynos 990 thing, over on reddit almost every single user reports terrible SOT and extreme heat even on mundane usage. Samsung discontinued the 4G version with the 990 but played it off as being related to a silicon shortage.
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it's note really an app thing it's an Exynos 990 thing, over on reddit almost every single reports terrible SOT and extreme heat even on mundane usage. Samsung discontinued the 4G version with the 990 but played it off as being related to a silicon shortage.
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My Snapdragon variant was a hot running battery hog at first. So I'm not convinced it's hopeless.
There are also 2 heatsink variants that may have been used. The 990's perfomance score is only slightly less than the Snapdragon.
The fact that it's spiking the cpu usage points to a software issue. Even if the faster cores are online for only seconds each minute it will drive up the temperature/battery usage substantially.
That will cause these symptoms and it's common on all the Note 10+ variants and other Samsung models as well.
Disable all power management, it's a known trouble maker.
Track down the apks causing this one by one, and deal with them on a case by case basis.
There are likely quit a few and many aren't needed or used.
people were getting 3.5/4 hrs SOT from a 4500mAh battery and heat that made it uncomfortable to hold. Samsung took several runs at fixing it and achieved nothing then discontinued it. if it was only a high level software issue that's a comparatively easy fix for an OEM.
one guy uploaded graphs for his cores and the 2 big power cores ramped up to max and just stayed there. seriously poke your head into r/GalaxyS20FE and have a look at posts about the Exynos or Exytoast as some call it.
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people were getting 3.5/4 hrs SOT from a 4500mAh battery and heat that made it uncomfortable to hold. Samsung took several runs at fixing it and achieved nothing then discontinued it. if it was only a high level software issue that's a comparatively easy fix for an OEM.
one guy uploaded graphs for his cores and the 2 big power cores ramped up to max and just stayed there. seriously poke your head into r/GalaxyS20FE and have a look at posts about the Exynos or Exytoast as some call it.
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Um, don't think I'll get the Exynos variant if I get another N10+... you're right it seems to have flaming reviews.