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Any reason to unlock the bootloader?

It used to be that you had to unlock in order to root etc.
But now with one click root applications like SuperOneClick etc, is there any reason to unlock the bootloader? Is it required for any custom ROM procedures?

Paul22000 said:
It used to be that you had to unlock in order to root etc.
But now with one click root applications like SuperOneClick etc, is there any reason to unlock the bootloader? Is it required for any custom ROM procedures?
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Not really (although it does make things easier to flash - using fastboot is very convenient.)
But then again, is there any reason to not unlock it? It has been shown numerous times that HTC will honor the warranty despite an unlocked bootloader, while it has never been shown that HTC has refused warranty service because of an unlocked bootloader.

efrant said:
Not really (although it does make things easier to flash - using fastboot is very convenient.)
But then again, is there any reason to not unlock it? It has been shown numerous times that HTC will honor the warranty despite an unlocked bootloader, while it has never been shown that HTC has refused warranty service because of an unlocked bootloader.
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Ah, so the only thing unlocking does is provide access to using "fastboot"?
I know; I warranty swapped mine that was bootloader unlocked I'm just asking for general information.

Paul22000 said:
Ah, so the only thing unlocking does is provide access to using "fastboot"?
I know; I warranty swapped mine that was bootloader unlocked I'm just asking for general information.
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Yes, unlocking your bootloader = the ability to flash images to your Nexus One using fastboot. That's it.

What if I am not planning on using a new rom? I want to stay on stock, but say, just want to overclock. I don't want to lose any data.
Would that make sense to just root?

brettbellaire said:
What if I am not planning on using a new rom? I want to stay on stock, but say, just want to overclock. I don't want to lose any data.
Would that make sense to just root?
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I think you can just root then via SuperOneClick.

I have another question about unlocked bootloader. How can I tell if my bootloader its unlocked? I know usually I have to flash slp to unlock it or set S-off and if I'm not sure it should still be locked, but when I flashed modaco rom it said something about unlocking bootloader. I didn't want to but couldn't abort! So when I boot into bootloader it doesn't say unlocked but any way to tell beside that?
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arminsoyka said:
I have another question about unlocked bootloader. How can I tell if my bootloader its unlocked? I know usually I have to flash slp to unlock it or set S-off and if I'm not sure it should still be locked, but when I flashed modaco rom it said something about unlocking bootloader. I didn't want to but couldn't abort! So when I boot into bootloader it doesn't say unlocked but any way to tell beside that?
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You'd see a padlock icon at the bottom of the 'X' screen as you boot up if you are unlocked.

Thanks, so I'm locked.
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[Q] S-off

Do I unlock my bootloader using HTC.com website or should I wait for a developer to create a S-Off method? do we really need S-Off?

mikevillarroel said:
Do I unlock my bootloader using HTC.com website or should I wait for a developer to create a S-Off method? do we really need S-Off?
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S-Off doesn't really have much use on this phone. Since it's Qualcomm, kernels can be flashed in recovery anyway, and the only real reason for S-Off would be to downgrade to previous firmwares.

MacHackz said:
S-Off doesn't really have much use on this phone. Since it's Qualcomm, kernels can be flashed in recovery anyway, and the only real reason for S-Off would be to downgrade to previous firmwares.
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so if I use HTC.com to unlock it, I will be able to flash roms and stuff from recovery as normally I do with my HTC 4G LTE ?(been doing it with the EVO and EVO 3D also)

i think the s-off method is preferable above HTCdev.
Warranty wise that is.
if you are s-off you won't be registered @ HTC for having unlocked your bootloader and thus reduced your warranty...

mikevillarroel said:
so if I use HTC.com to unlock it, I will be able to flash roms and stuff from recovery as normally I do with my HTC 4G LTE ?(been doing it with the EVO and EVO 3D also)
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what if you don't want htc to know that you are rooting your phone for warranty purposes
any way of doing this? anyone working on s-off?

No idea if the phone has had a chance to reach anyone outside of the EU (and slow roll out even over here.)
I'm guessing that when the phone is in the hands of a lot more people the race will be on to be the 1st to deliver s-off.
Until there's a desperate need for me to flash an updated radio or maybe a bootloader I don't appear to need it though.
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mox123 said:
what if you don't want htc to know that you are rooting your phone for warranty purposes
any way of doing this? anyone working on s-off?
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Until there has been worldwide release of the phone I doubt anybody will of even started work on it. I'd assume we might heard word of it about June time? Regarding people working on it that is.
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Boot loader, s off, someone tell me what the heck is going on here.

Okay, I have a couple of questions I'm hoping someone can answer.
1). What is the situation with the boot loader on the One? I know there is a developer edition, but are all of the other versions going to be locked down? Also, since there is a Dev version I assume the one won't be on their unlock website, right?
2) my second question is more about HTC in general, and s-off. I know it stands for security off, but what does it do exactly? I've heard its needed for flashing certain things like kernels, but I don't understand why that would he necessary if the boot loader is already unlocked.
Im on Verizon, hoping and praying that the One comes to us, if not I'm probably leaving them. Can't wait to get my hands on this great phone, and hopefully help HTC come out of the dumps
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Chirp chirp? Are there not even any crickets in here?
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The One can be bootloader unlocked through htcdev. No problems there
Bootloader unlocked lets you flash custom firmware, but S-OFF gives you full control over what you want to do. This stands for NAND locked or NAND unlocked. What that does is give you access to normally restricted partitions on the phone, such as the boot and radio partitions. Even with bootloader unlocked, you need to flash the boot.img separately if you do not have S-OFF and radios cant be flashed
And doing the chirp chirp thing doesnt encourage people to answer. Just a tip.

Boot loader can be unlocked on all EU carriers by spending 5 mins on the htcdev site (its included under Other phones)
As for s off, not currently possible but also not needed. On tegra HTC phones you needed it to flash boot.img as part of flashing a new ROM but already bypassed for the One.
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Tetsumi06 said:
Boot loader can be unlocked on all EU carriers by spending 5 mins on the htcdev site (its included under Other phones)
As for s off, not currently possible but also not needed. On tegra HTC phones you needed it to flash boot.img as part of flashing a new ROM but already bypassed for the One.
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Technically its still needed, but theyve developed a workaround which is essentially fastbooting it from the phone.
Also correction, its not only on Tegra processors that this is an issue, its on all HTC devices because they all come NAND locked.

It's not needed but would be better if we can get s-off soon.
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ant78 said:
It's not needed but would be better if we can get s-off soon.
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So, what can be done with S-OFF that isn't possible currently?

AllyOmega said:
So, what can be done with S-OFF that isn't possible currently?
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One of the things that can be done with s-off is flash a kernel image right from the phone without a PC

AllyOmega said:
So, what can be done with S-OFF that isn't possible currently?
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As said above me, flashing kernels during a rom flash (the rom zip will attempt to do it, but s-on prevents the boot.img from taking) without a computer or a workaround like SuperBoot, and you can also flash radios with s-off

AllyOmega said:
So, what can be done with S-OFF that isn't possible currently?
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CID can be changed to flash a different region ROM.
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And also to reflash HBOOT so that it says LOCKED instead of RELOCKED for warranty purposes.

Can I return to T-Mobile (US) stock everything?

Hey Guys,
So I am need of a bit of help and guidance. I currently have a HTC One 32Gb Silver from T-Mobile (US). I need to return my phone for warranty exchange but so far I have put several different roms, TWRP recovery, perm root, and obv unlocked bootloader. I need to return everything to how it was out of the box. I made a backup of my stock rom way back in May after I unlocked the bootloader. I know generally people would use an RUU but I do not think there is one for T-Mobile US. So I just need some guidance on how to put back factory recovery, and then relock bootloader without T-Mobile it was ever unlocked. I believe this can be achieved thru S-OFF then S-On back on again after you fix the "re-locked" and "tampered". If someone can walk me through how to properly do this and the files I would need I give you huge gratitude.
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theamazingbeat said:
Hey Guys,
So I am need of a bit of help and guidance. I currently have a HTC One 32Gb Silver from T-Mobile (US). I need to return my phone for warranty exchange but so far I have put several different roms, TWRP recovery, perm root, and obv unlocked bootloader. I need to return everything to how it was out of the box. I made a backup of my stock rom way back in May after I unlocked the bootloader. I know generally people would use an RUU but I do not think there is one for T-Mobile US. So I just need some guidance on how to put back factory recovery, and then relock bootloader without T-Mobile it was ever unlocked. I believe this can be achieved thru S-OFF then S-On back on again after you fix the "re-locked" and "tampered". If someone can walk me through how to properly do this and the files I would need I give you huge gratitude.
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I can't walk you through the steps, but you'll find more assistance in the T-Mobile HTC One forum. The official T-Mobile RUU is actually available now and can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2375223
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theamazingbeat said:
Hey Guys,
So I am need of a bit of help and guidance. I currently have a HTC One 32Gb Silver from T-Mobile (US). I need to return my phone for warranty exchange but so far I have put several different roms, TWRP recovery, perm root, and obv unlocked bootloader. I need to return everything to how it was out of the box. I made a backup of my stock rom way back in May after I unlocked the bootloader. I know generally people would use an RUU but I do not think there is one for T-Mobile US. So I just need some guidance on how to put back factory recovery, and then relock bootloader without T-Mobile it was ever unlocked. I believe this can be achieved thru S-OFF then S-On back on again after you fix the "re-locked" and "tampered". If someone can walk me through how to properly do this and the files I would need I give you huge gratitude.
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Gain Soff
Turn off the tamper stuff
Flash RUU
Everything will appear stock
once the new revone comes out you can go back to s-on and it really is all stock

BableMan said:
Gain Soff
Turn off the tamper stuff
Flash RUU
Everything will appear stock
once the new revone comes out you can go back to s-on and it really is all stock
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So let's say I already called T-Mobile and I need to return my phone within 7 days what do I do now?

theamazingbeat said:
So let's say I already called T-Mobile and I need to return my phone within 7 days what do I do now?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381817
Look at second post and follow his instructions...worked like a charm S-OFF and put back to S-ON is available now

[Q] after htcdev unlock "50 gb google drive"

i read in some forum that after unlocking u dont get 50gb storage for 2 years.. did anyone get after unlocking ??
htc one m8

No. You have to relock to get it.

so then unlock again it will stick?

Once you have it, you have it.

Thanks Captain... i been reading your threads and folowed ure instructions on my evo 4g lte.. u helped out alot... now doing the same on m8

I should have done this before I unlocked mine. I didn't even think about it. Anyone that gets a new one claim your storage first. I actually use dropbox but may have tried Drive with free storage.

Sim-X said:
I should have done this before I unlocked mine. I didn't even think about it. Anyone that gets a new one claim your storage first. I actually use dropbox but may have tried Drive with free storage.
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I believe it still works even if you're S-OFF as long as you're LOCKED (or RELOCKED) too. So if you've S-OFFed already, you don't have to worry about losing your data again by using HTCDev. You can just use the procedure to reset your flag and claim your space.

Captain_Throwback said:
I believe it still works even if you're S-OFF as long as you're LOCKED (or RELOCKED) too. So if you've S-OFFed already, you don't have to worry about losing your data again by using HTCDev. You can just use the procedure to reset your flag and claim your space.
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I'm actually running your stock rooted rom with a custom (no red text) hboot. Since I'm s-off, I should be able to relock with a custom hboot and not lose anything or have any affect on root access?

Sim-X said:
I'm actually running your stock rooted rom with a custom (no red text) hboot. Since I'm s-off, I should be able to relock with a custom hboot and not lose anything or have any affect on root access?
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As long as you use the procedure to just change the flag, and you don't try using fastboot to lock, yes you will not lose anything or affect root.