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[Q] 4.3 ota update causing wifi connect and disconnect issues

Received it's 4.3 update on Sprint last Wednesday for my completely stock HTC One. I noticed after update was completed my WiFi would not remain connected. Checked all possible problems I could check with my phone and WiFi, none fixed the issue. I now, after going through a HUGE run around have a new One and keep getting notified of the 4.3 update and was just wondering if anyone else has ran into this issue? Holding off on doing the update due to not wanting the phone to have the same problem and to have go through all the crap I had to the first time just to get a replacement phone.

wmcpotter said:
Received it's 4.3 update on Sprint last Wednesday for my completely stock HTC One. I noticed after update was completed my WiFi would not remain connected. Checked all possible problems I could check with my phone and WiFi, none fixed the issue. I now, after going through a HUGE run around have a new One and keep getting notified of the 4.3 update and was just wondering if anyone else has ran into this issue? Holding off on doing the update due to not wanting the phone to have the same problem and to have go through all the crap I had to the first time just to get a replacement phone.
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Yea, i am having the same exact issues after updating to 4.3 last week on the International HTC One......It is defenitely a software issue, as my One was perfectly fine before the update.

Plz do me a HUGE favor and notify Google on this issue the more people call the faster we get the fix and idk about u but I'm getting really impatient waiting for them to fix this
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Dangers Of Messing With Your Phone

Hello, everyone, I'd like to share my experience, get any help if someone can, and warn some future people.
So a few months ago i rooted and ROM swapped my HTC one. It was great, I loved it, it was fast and simple.
I tried to change the ROM on it the other day and everything went down hill form there. Basically I ended up having no service and everything else seeming to work fine. So after spending an entire day trying to fix it with BD619, i had to call my carrier today. Now i have the sprint phones, and the sprint service, but i have Credo as a carrier. God knows why. They essentially gave me nothing saying my phone must be bricked and they can't help me.
One thing they did try however was to have me put in a ##xxxxx# number, and there i saw and could edit my MDN and MSID, instead of showing my my phone number and the MSID number they both had "No" written. So he had me edit it and put it in, but when i click "commit changes" it said "commit failed" so if anyone knows anything about that or could help me there, it'd greatly appreciated.
Lesson is, even if you think you know what you are doing, and are careful, weird stuff can happen, and if you have an Odd carrier version of an already less support model of phone (the sprint version), then be EXTRA careful.

Kdenery said:
Hello, everyone, I'd like to share my experience, get any help if someone can, and warn some future people.
So a few months ago i rooted and ROM swapped my HTC one. It was great, I loved it, it was fast and simple.
I tried to change the ROM on it the other day and everything went down hill form there. Basically I ended up having no service and everything else seeming to work fine. So after spending an entire day trying to fix it with BD619, i had to call my carrier today. Now i have the sprint phones, and the sprint service, but i have Credo as a carrier. God knows why. They essentially gave me nothing saying my phone must be bricked and they can't help me.
One thing they did try however was to have me put in a ##xxxxx# number, and there i saw and could edit my MDN and MSID, instead of showing my my phone number and the MSID number they both had "No" written. So he had me edit it and put it in, but when i click "commit changes" it said "commit failed" so if anyone knows anything about that or could help me there, it'd greatly appreciated.
Lesson is, even if you think you know what you are doing, and are careful, weird stuff can happen, and if you have an Odd carrier version of an already less support model of phone (the sprint version), then be EXTRA careful.
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Have you tried simply running the latest RUU and reverting it back to stock?
**edit** http://www.htc.com/us/support/news.aspx?p_id=629&p_name=htc-one-sprint

Kraizk said:
Have you tried simply running the latest RUU and reverting it back to stock?
**edit** http://www.htc.com/us/support/news.aspx?p_id=629&p_name=htc-one-sprint
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Yes, twice

This is not an uncommon problem but it happens with certain HTC ones and not others. I have helped a few other people with this issue. Most likely, your current ROM is set to RUIN/SIM in Settings-> More-> Mobile Network -> Subscription settings. It needs to be set to NV. If you can't get to this setting, you need to flash a ROM that has the setting available. CM 10 based ROMs all seem to have it. If your phone does not automatically reactivate, you can flash to a stock ROM and use the handsfree activation function and that should get you back up.

jamesissocool said:
This is not an uncommon problem but it happens with certain HTC ones and not others. I have helped a few other people with this issue. Most likely, your current ROM is set to RUIN/SIM in Settings-> More-> Mobile Network -> Subscription settings. It needs to be set to NV. If you can't get to this setting, you need to flash a ROM that has the setting available. CM 10 based ROMs all seem to have it. If your phone does not automatically reactivate, you can flash to a stock ROM and use the handsfree activation function and that should get you back up.
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I'm going to try this now thanks

jamesissocool said:
This is not an uncommon problem but it happens with certain HTC ones and not others. I have helped a few other people with this issue. Most likely, your current ROM is set to RUIN/SIM in Settings-> More-> Mobile Network -> Subscription settings. It needs to be set to NV. If you can't get to this setting, you need to flash a ROM that has the setting available. CM 10 based ROMs all seem to have it. If your phone does not automatically reactivate, you can flash to a stock ROM and use the handsfree activation function and that should get you back up.
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Okay so i just flashed a CM 11 build. and Holy S*** I have ******* service! I cant make calls, it says it's not authorized. And i don't see the option you were talking about, in mobile network, i see , Data Enables, Data Roaming, Preferred Network type, System select, (then grayed out) Access Point Names and Network operators, (then not grayed out) carrier settings. When i click carrier settings it says "Unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stopped. and it takes me back a screen.
where do i go from here?

Kdenery said:
Okay so i just flashed a CM 11 build. and Holy S*** I have ******* service! I cant make calls, it says it's not authorized. And i don't see the option you were talking about, in mobile network, i see , Data Enables, Data Roaming, Preferred Network type, System select, (then grayed out) Access Point Names and Network operators, (then not grayed out) carrier settings. When i click carrier settings it says "Unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stopped. and it takes me back a screen.
where do i go from here?
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Try flashing a CM10 ROM. I've always seen the option there. The kitkat ROMs I have used do not have the option except for the Nocs GE.

Kdenery said:
Hello, everyone, I'd like to share my experience, get any help if someone can, and warn some future people.
So a few months ago i rooted and ROM swapped my HTC one. It was great, I loved it, it was fast and simple.
I tried to change the ROM on it the other day and everything went down hill form there. Basically I ended up having no service and everything else seeming to work fine. So after spending an entire day trying to fix it with BD619, i had to call my carrier today. Now i have the sprint phones, and the sprint service, but i have Credo as a carrier. God knows why. They essentially gave me nothing saying my phone must be bricked and they can't help me.
One thing they did try however was to have me put in a ##xxxxx# number, and there i saw and could edit my MDN and MSID, instead of showing my my phone number and the MSID number they both had "No" written. So he had me edit it and put it in, but when i click "commit changes" it said "commit failed" so if anyone knows anything about that or could help me there, it'd greatly appreciated.
Lesson is, even if you think you know what you are doing, and are careful, weird stuff can happen, and if you have an Odd carrier version of an already less support model of phone (the sprint version), then be EXTRA careful.
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The only way something like this happens is one of two things.....
1. Ur a noob
2. Your a dev and your testing ril on your rom
The only way to fix this which is a cleared meid of some sort......flashing cm10.1 is the only way and aquiring service by switching to nv....once there everything is fixed just flash/restore back to your rom.
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-TheEdge- said:
The only way something like this happens is one of two things.....
1. Ur a noob
2. Your a dev and your testing ril on your rom
The only way to fix this which is a cleared meid of some sort......flashing cm10.1 is the only way and aquiring service by switching to nv....once there everything is fixed just flash/restore back to your rom.
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i'd kinda like to argue a point here as this just happened to me. i am certainly not new to flashing, starting back with the mogul and having almost every sprint smart phone since then unlocked (windows) or rooted (webos and android).
Using TWRP and previously running ecliptic 4.3 i wiped caches, system and data then installed the 4.4.2 from team d3rp and voila... no service no meid no nothing.... yes i have the latest radio on my phone.
i guess my point in this is that there's a number 3 that you didn't mention.
3. sh!t happens and it's not n00b related.
for anyone else that has this issue... flashing CM 10.1 worked for me. i didn't even have to set up anything, it just picked up signal. so i rebooted, wiped and nandroided back to 4.3 and all is well.

Did you flash a rom that was meant for another carrier?
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Robert542 said:
Did you flash a rom that was meant for another carrier?
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I didn't... it was SuperOneK. i'm certainly not blaming the rom though. especially not when others are flashing it fine. the ONLY thing i can think of possibly happening is a bad download. I was in a rush and didn't check the md5.

I had a similar problem when flashing miui. Nothing worked. Even went back to a sense backup and nothing worked.
Commit failed as well.
Here's what I did to make it work again.
Flashed cm10. Change the network settings for CDMA. (Boom it SAID I had service..but didn't).
Rebooted a few times (probably not necessary).
Flashed a sense 4.3 ROM that was close to stock.
Update msl and all that. Commit.
For me..changed LTE/CDMA to just CDMA (no 4g in wv).
Boom it worked again. Hope this helps!
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No LTE option? (Three UK)

Hi all
I've had a look around the forum and all posts on this subject relate to US versions of this problem.
Anyway, I don't live in a 4G area, but yesterday I happened to be in central London. But I had no 4G. I went into the settings and there was no 4G option, only GSM and WCDMA. I downloaded an app and forced it into 4G and it worked, although I only ever got 1 bar, but the data worked.
I called Three, they said I should send it back to HTC for repair! I said thanks but no thanks.
I bought my phone SIM free in the UK from Expansys, I checked the bootloader screen, it's a W7_UL (I believe the L means it's LTE enabled) and I've rooted it (no custom ROMS, just root). I suspect I don't have a 4G SIM, but I don't know how to find out. Only after researching this did I discover - to my horror and bafflement - that there is a version of the One without 4G. I was briefly worried I had managed to spend £400 on a lemon, but it seems I am able to use 4G if I force it.
Any ideas?

I just noticed something in odd in my software versions. I'm still on Android 4.3...
Isn't the HTC One now on 4.4? Sense version is 5.5, Software number 3.62.401.1 and HTC SDK API level 5.65
I ran an OTE update, it says no new updates.

Three are gradually upgrading everyone's account to 4G, so there's a slim chance you've not been moved over yet, but as for the OTA update I believe HTC pulled it temporarily but I think it should be available again so keep trying (or manually install it if you're S-OFF)

EddyOS said:
Three are gradually upgrading everyone's account to 4G, so there's a slim chance you've not been moved over yet, but as for the OTA update I believe HTC pulled it temporarily but I think it should be available again so keep trying (or manually install it if you're S-OFF)
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Thanks for the quick reply. I asked Three and they said my account had been 4G enabled (although I never received any system messages about it)
I think I might install a custom ROM

Ypnos said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I asked Three and they said my account had been 4G enabled (although I never received any system messages about it)
I think I might install a custom ROM
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Are you S-OFF? If so, and the ROM is otherwise stock, I'd flash the 4.4.2 OTA manually and see what happens. If it's still not working after that then might be worth giving a custom ROM a go...from my experience of Three's 4G to date it's quite good, but obviously still rolling out

Ypnos said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I asked Three and they said my account had been 4G enabled (although I never received any system messages about it)
I think I might install a custom ROM
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Try "dialing" *#*#4636#*#* -> Phone information -> and set to GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto (or you can also force "LTE only" to test)

EddyOS said:
Are you S-OFF? If so, and the ROM is otherwise stock, I'd flash the 4.4.2 OTA manually and see what happens. If it's still not working after that then might be worth giving a custom ROM a go...from my experience of Three's 4G to date it's quite good, but obviously still rolling out
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I don't know what S-OFF is and I don't know how to update OTA manually. I went into updates and did a refresh, but it says no updates available.

nkk71 said:
Try "dialing" *#*#4636#*#* -> Phone information -> and set to GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto (or you can also force "LTE only" to test)
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Yep, I tried that and it did go to 4G. As soon as I reboot the phone, it reverts back to WCDMA/GSM.

For your info OP......I have an unlocked One (now 4.2.2 but 4.3 at the time) from carphone warehouse on a Three UK plan, I don't live in a 4g area but I recently visited Cambridge and noticed "4g " instead of the usual H or 3g on the notification bar , I did a speed test and it was 14Mb+ so I guess my account and phone are both 4G ready , I had done nothing to try to set this up or force it, it just happened.
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It's implemented in the settings when you get 4.4.2
(On 3UK too)
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spikeydoo2006 said:
It's implemented in the settings when you get 4.4.2
(On 3UK too)
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Thanks
Is there a way of forcing it to update?

Any info on Checking Band priority? EPST?

As some of you may have read, my phone is somewhat hosed.
I have a new one on the way (which might be a refurb). But I have nothing to lose playing with this one.
I highly suspect, one or more of the bands are disabled.
If you google around you see lots of folks fiddling around with Band Priorities and/or Enabling. Especially with "TirBand" phones (which this is). (Nexus 5 and HTC One, HTC One Max).
Most of the time people access this through EPST using ##4636# but my phone does not respond to this.
But the Galaxy S5 and HTC One (M8). Are in new Territory with Spark and even more bands I believe. So their might be new Menus for these phones and that info has not been leaked out yet.
Currently if I'm in a formally strong 4G area I get great 3G (no 4G at all). Yes 4G is enabled.
If I'm in Moderate to Weak 3G area. I get 1x or nothing. It really feels like a Band got shut off.
I'm not sure what caused it.
I was running Corporate PRL (56018). That seemed to not be causing any harm. Ran it for a few weeks.
Ran Barebones 1.0 (on stock firmware) and that ran fine too. After that it was down hill.
My only issue was Roaming Guard was on and Locked out. Which others have reported is a long standing issue (was a problem on M7 too).
All I needed to do was do a Full Wipe and enable it before it gets locked again. Not everyone has this locking issue, but MANY do.
I updated to OTA firmware. Not sure of status here because I had WIFI on normally.
Then I decided to run BadBoys Harman. Without firmware. Again not sure of status here as WIFI was on.
Somewhere I believe I did an Update Profile. I suspect at that point I was hosed.
It was when I put BadBoys on that I noticed an issue because he shows when you are on 1x.
Not sure if I started to see 1x that was before or after update profile.
I don't know if it's combination of having been on the corporate PRL when I did the update Profile or what.
I always try to do update Profile over mobile network.
I was not clear what the problem exactly was until I "Fully" upgraded (Harman with Harman firmware).
Just to be clear, I'm not blaming anyone but me. And there may be nothing wrong with anything out there than more or my phone. I just don't know.
I highly suspect it's something trivial that got turned off or the phone so happened to lose a band or antenna.
But I suspect it's some combination of SuperCID, Corporate PRL, new OTA Firmware or Harman Firmware along with Update Profile hosed me.
I do have new phone on the way. But I sure would like to know what happened.
I didn't do anything "out of bounds" from this forum. I simply may have done things in a different order or something.
I am S-OFF and running TWRP 2.7.0.2
I have reactivated, wiped the gazoo out of it. Ran Harmon RUU. etc.
I sure wish there was an RUU for the Shipped Config. Or even for the OTA version.
Seems a coincidence the phone "Broke" just when I started Flashing Firmware and Updating Profile.
I know I was good on Stock Rooted, S-OFF, Corporate PRL. Because I'd even see 4G at my house occasionally which is a reach. Now I'm lucky to get 1x at my house.
I will tell you this, I'm staying on Stock Firmware and Stock PRL when the new phone arrives until more is learned.
I will try to compare phones as best I can.
Which is another reason I sure would like to see the Band configuration on this phone so I can compare it to the new phone.
Thanks for any tips.

I think you were trying to do *#*#4636#*#* to access the Menu. The EPST command would be ##3282#.

I'd be interested in your comparison. I think I may have a hosed phone as well. I have it on cdma only and I'm constantly losing data, dropping calls, and missing calls in places I didn't before. The only roms I have flashed are Captain's 1.54.651.8, and my BareBones rom.

Captain_Throwback said:
I think you were trying to do *#*#4636#*#* to access the Menu. The EPST command would be ##3282#.
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Thanks when I saw people posting *#*#4636#*#* I stupidly assumed they were trying to get past some HTML issue with ##. *#*#4636#*#* works !!
Turns out when you use the Google Play app called "Advanced Signal Status" when you click "Advanced" it brings up the same Menu as *#*#4636#*#*.
I didn't realize it was bringing up something built into the phone.
Any way,
It looks like on HTC Max it was *#*#3282#*#* which does not exist on HTC One (M8). You have to use ##3282# but that does not offer the same Band settings that HTC Max has with *#*#3282#*#*.

Just a quick reminder that Questions go in the Q&A section.

metalfan78 said:
I'd be interested in your comparison. I think I may have a hosed phone as well. I have it on cdma only and I'm constantly losing data, dropping calls, and missing calls in places I didn't before. The only roms I have flashed are Captain's 1.54.651.8, and my BareBones rom.
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When and how often have you:
Updated Profile?
Changed Firmware?
Changed from factory PRL?
I think my problems may have started after I flashed Captains Firmware for OTA (which I got the link from you ROM thread).
I'm not saying it was, but it was around that time. It may have been something to do with PRL's but those are usually harmless and very revertible.
I'm 99% sure I was ok on your ROM with Stock Firmware. Except for Roaming Guard on and locked out. Not sure if that is an early symptom of problems though.
Some things in firmware (on past phones) are not revertible (ever !!!)
Your symptoms sound a lot like mine. I only get good 3G in locations where I used to get good 4G. And I get no 4G at all now.
My phone generally works but many calls go to voice mail or get dropped. Or end up being one way (one of us can't hear the other).
I think it's one of these:
Band issue (disabled or low priority)
Some sort of ID issue that got lost (like a lost security Key)
Some of Power Saver issue (i.e. Extreme Power Save kicking in when it shouldn't)
The reason I mention power is it does this.
WIFI On
Running "Advanced Signal Status"
All looks ok.
Shut off WIFI and things go nuts.
EVDO (data) RSSI Signal: drops to -120db (0%)
Then network type switches to 1xRTT from eHRPD.
It's like the extreme power saver is on. Which, guess what, OTA firmware was supposed to enable !!!
I have tried disabling it in settings. But I think something is haywire.

This is what extreme power save does. And came with the OTA update.
QUOTE: Basically it shuts down all connections but still allows phone calls and texts to come through. You can manually refresh e-mail if you want — but only in HTC's e-mail app. Your smartphone essentially is turned into a dumb phone. And to make sure you don't cheat and try to actually make it do things, the M8 gets a new home EXTREME home screen, with shortcuts to the Phone, Messages, Mail, Calendar and Calculator apps. To exit EXTREME mode, you'll need to hit the dedicated "Exit" button.
HTC says that with only 5 percent battery remaining, you can eke out 15 hours in this EXTREME mode. On a full battery? It'll last something like a dozen days. We'd consider this to be more of an emergency mode than EXTREME, however. END QUOTE
It sure feels like this is what my phone is doing. I think it's stuck on Extreme Power Save mode (in the RADIO only).

I flashed the firmware twice, updated prl many times, never changed prl. Sounds like same symptoms.

metalfan78 said:
I flashed the firmware twice, updated prl many times, never changed prl. Sounds like same symptoms.
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I highly suspect it's not PRL. When you say "update prl" I assume you mean from settings -> system update menu.
I suspect firmware. Of which there is nothing available to go back to.
Can you get 4G?

I rarely get 4g, it hasn't been fully implemented where I am. I got it on my gs3 only sometimes. And yea, updated prl through settings
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I'm definitely going to a Sprint store. I was just on Sprint chat and they confirmed it is not network related but a defective device. Dammit.

This is what extreme power save.came with the OTA update.

HTC/Sprint removed the band priority section from the menus in the Max so it's either hidden deep OR it's not there and Sprint is controlling what band you actually use on their end which is highly possible....
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sgt. slaughter said:
HTC/Sprint removed the band priority section from the menus in the Max so it's either hidden deep OR it's not there and Sprint is controlling what band you actually use on their end which is highly possible....
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Ahh, thanks for the info. I think that's what is messed up on my phone some how. Some Key or ID so it knows the appropriate ones to pick.

I've been switching back and forth on firmware and flashing mainly between Viper Rom and Bad Boyz H/K Rom without any issues at all. I had one issue where I couldn't get data or roam, I temporarily fixed by flashing some stock files, but since a clean install all has been well. I've updated profile and prl quite a few times without any issues so far.
I don't get lte at home, but it worked great in Indianapolis over last weekend. Just thought I would share the info.
Also s-off and super cid if that helps any.

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I've been switching back and forth on firmware and flashing mainly between Viper Rom and Bad Boyz H/K Rom without any issues at all. I had one issue where I couldn't get data or roam, I temporarily fixed by flashing some stock files, but since a clean install all has been well. I've updated profile and prl quite a few times without any issues so far.
I don't get lte at home, but it worked great in Indianapolis over last weekend. Just thought I would share the info.
Also s-off and super cid if that helps any.
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That's interesting you lost Data / Roam and managed to got it back. Perhaps if I had put the dialer on like you did at that first problem I would have got it back too.
So you are running H/K firmware as well?
I've made it as close to stock as I could including recovery. Went to 4G area (where I can get 3G). Factory Reset (from boot loader), Redid Activation, Updated Profile/PRL etc. All worked (albeit slowly).
But still no 4G and no 3G when in normally 3G only areas.
Then I tried running H/K RUU back to back twice. Still stuck.
I may try RUU one more time, then try reactivate/profile/prl again in the 4G area.
Is there any need to change hboot? I have left what the H/K RUU put on there sometimes and other times used the one posted here that removes the red unlocked text etc.

The only thing I've messed with on hboot was the mask to remove the tampered text and red text on boot screen.
Yeah I was the one that sent you the message about losing mine until I flashed stock phone apk. But you said it didn't work for you though. But after I did a clean install of the Rom I haven't had any more issues luckily. Hopefully your replacement will work a lot better for you. Maybe just got a bad phone hopefully.
Yes I'm back on H/K firmware again. I went back to old firmware when I flashed viper a few days ago.
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The only thing I've messed with on hboot was the mask to remove the tampered text and red text on boot screen.
Yeah I was the one that sent you the message about losing mine until I flashed stock phone apk. But you said it didn't work for you though. But after I did a clean install of the Rom I haven't had any more issues luckily. Hopefully your replacement will work a lot better for you. Maybe just got a bad phone hopefully.
Yes I'm back on H/K firmware again. I went back to old firmware when I flashed viper a few days ago.
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Maybe I need a round of Viper to fix it

custom firmware frustration

OK so I have a dual sim version purchased on contract with 3 in the UK.
I keep getting a software update notification saying an update is available however all it consists of is custom apps and a splash screen on start up. I refuse to install this as I was advised that once custom firmware was installed it would delay any further updates as apparently in the UK all the carriers have to approve the update before it gets released.
I'm living in hope that by holding out in this way I might be offered the 146 update sooner.
Now here is the issue....
With my sim card inserted the phone constantly downloads the update and then shows it as waiting to install. I have been able to delete it by going into apps and the software updater however shortly later it downloads again. I have switched off the 'download on WiFi option' however for some reason this keeps switching itself back on again.
Any ideas why it's doing this and how I get around the problem?

Same problem as me however I downloaded mine without realising what it was,looks like I'm stuck on waiting for three to release now,sigh I live chatted with three today and they don't seem to have a clue on the release date.

Hey, the problem is when you are clearing the data from the updater you are also clearing your preferences for auto download over WIFI.
Simple solution is remove your SIM tray, clear the app data, and then disable auto download over WIFI before you put the sim tray back in. In future when you want to check for firmware updates simply remove the sim tray and run the updater again. Running the updater with the SIM tray in will result in you having to start all over again.

Just download it, I have it downloaded and still got the latest 145 update at the same time other networks like EE did.
I.e not installing doesn't mean you get updates sooner.

Phil750123 said:
Just download it, I have it downloaded and still got the latest 145 update at the same time other networks like EE did.
I.e not installing doesn't mean you get updates sooner.
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Appreciate what your saying however I also don't want to install all three's crap on my phone so thats why I don't install it

hpsauce37 said:
Appreciate what your saying however I also don't want to install all three's crap on my phone so thats why I don't install it
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i get it, however the only thing i have noticed is the 3 splash screen which doesnt bother me as i hardly ever reboot.
Not sure if you can do wifi calling with it installed?

Phil750123 said:
i get it, however the only thing i have noticed is the 3 splash screen which doesnt bother me as i hardly ever reboot.
Not sure if you can do wifi calling with it installed?
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As luck would have it I took the 3 SIM out and checked for update with my bt SIM and low and behold it was there.
Just installed and have now switched off auto download on WiFi so hopefully the 3 update won't come through again.