Charging while much power consumption - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

It is really bad that it is not possible to do whatever I want on my phone while it's already plugged in. Will there be a way to increase charging current for example?

Mighty_X said:
It is really fu..ed up that it is not possible to do whatever I want on my phone while it's already plugged in. Will there be a way to increase charging current for example?
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Normaly,
I underclock my kernel till 1.5 Ghz.
I still have no lag, and the charging goes better.
Maybe you can try it.
But underclocking needs root.
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Mighty_X said:
It is really bad that it is not possible to do whatever I want on my phone while it's already plugged in. Will there be a way to increase charging current for example?
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Yeah underclocking helps A LOT when charging and when you are just doing normal stuff.
Normally I never take my clockspeed over 1.6-1.7GHz(ondemand/interactive) because I really see no difference, the only time when I take it up to full speed is when I am playing Asphalt 8 because that game looks gorgeous and it needs power.
But you will need Root @chitose_ndy said.
Another thing to do is to see if your power outlet is fully functional, I had a problem 2 years ago where my power outlet was having some problems so it may cause problems if it is not functioning normally

I am currently using the charger that comes with the SGS4 and it is slightly better (experia Z1 charger comes with output 1.5 A while SGS4 charger has 2A output). However, Chargers with support to 2.0 quick charge (with output ~4A) will be released early 2014, till then there is nothing we can do to significantly increase charge speed.
underclocking would help for sure, but keep in mind that it won't increase charge speed but it will reduce power consumption.

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Does anybody else get super SLOW performance when charging?

Whenver I'm charging via wall charger or USB my captivate is super duper SLOOOWWW. It takes forever to switch screens, the keyboard doesn't function correctly, and my bluetooth won't sync. As soon as I disconnect the charge everything is back to normal.
Any ideas?
No replies? Sooo...Am I the ONLY one?
be patient for answers here
Ive noticed it charges slowly but I have not noticed it being slow while charging.
The theoretical output of the charger is .7 amps, and thats not very much in the smartphone world these days. When I am using it and it is plugged in, it charges roughly a percent every eight minutes. The .7 amps must be just enough to cover the phone being on and in use.
I am currently looking around for chargers in the 1 amp range. My old tilt 2 charger works great for that and i definitely saw a charge time improvement. I would love to have one with a greater than 1amp output but I dont think you can find them anywhere
Are you running SetCPU with set profiles ?
If Yes : that is the problem , adjust profile.
If Not : must be something else, not a common behavior.
I read this on another forum but someone mentioned changing the default usb setting from Kies to something something else may help.
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matthewpapa said:
I am currently looking around for chargers in the 1 amp range. My old tilt 2 charger works great for that and i definitely saw a charge time improvement. I would love to have one with a greater than 1amp output but I dont think you can find them anywhere
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Ordered these the other day. Just combine them with a USB cable.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10826&cs_id=1082602&p_id=3523&seq=1&format=2
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10311&cs_id=1031106&p_id=6767&seq=1&format=2
ladiesgod said:
No replies? Sooo...Am I the ONLY one?
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No, mine doesnt do that. It runs the same whether its plugged into the wall charger or not.
derek4484 said:
No, mine doesnt do that. It runs the same whether its plugged into the wall charger or not.
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same, get your phone replaced whole you still can
Jack45 said:
Ordered these the other day. Just combine them with a USB cable.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10826&cs_id=1082602&p_id=3523&seq=1&format=2
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10311&cs_id=1031106&p_id=6767&seq=1&format=2
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if u had an iphone charger can we use that , that has 1A rating too ?
anilkuj said:
if u had an iphone charger can we use that , that has 1A rating too ?
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As long as the output is 5 volts, you're o.k.
My captivate runs the same while charging but the actual process of charging the phone takes forever it seems. I've only had it a couple days now and I have to get used to killing some tasks while charging because I actually think the battery life was decreasing as it charged.
Incidentally, the display is the real killer on the battery...most tasks don't really eat as much battery life in comparison.
Recent Nokia chargers will work with a slight mod to the plug where it fits the phone,
After Pimping out my phone it works fine while charging now. Yea screen eats up like 82% of batteries resources...OUCH!
Just search for Motorola P513 on Amazon. Rapid rate car charger! And, belive me, it's perfect fit! Now on sale for $5.85 (was $29.99).
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I agree with the device charging slowly (but then again it doesn't help that I'm using it while it charges) but I have not had any performance issues.
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for those of you who have a old iphone/ipod touch charger block, use that instead.
its rated for 5V/1A output, higher than the 5V/.7A output on the default samsung charging block.
that should charge the phone much faster
I have the same issue with charging, no matter what charger I use (iPhone, Tilt, USB), it's all VERY painfully slow. I've been as high as 1% per 6 minutes (rare - when using Nokia charger (1.2A I believe) to 1% per 13 minutes via USB.
I'm thinking it might be something internal to the actual phone. The iPhone didn't take this long even with USB charging through a computer or LCD monitor. Heck, the iPhone on average was 90 seconds per 1% of battery. I could have a nearly dead phone and be fully charged and ready in less than an hour and a half.
Anyone else think the same?
yea i think it might be something related to the phone indeed. this is, in my opinion, the biggest problem. i'm always on the go and i depend on my phone so much that if it doesn't charge fast enough i'm screwed.
let me make a post in the galaxy s forum and see if there's battery charging problems
Everyone else is charging.
littleasian said:
yea i think it might be something related to the phone indeed. this is, in my opinion, the biggest problem. i'm always on the go and i depend on my phone so much that if it doesn't charge fast enough i'm screwed.
let me make a post in the galaxy s forum and see if there's battery charging problems
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which thread is that? I'm curious to track that one as well. I have gotten 4 other people to purchase the Captivate from the iPhone and we are all on the same boat..even with a 1.2A charger from my N97 (which only lasted 3 weeks with me...but can't wait for the N8), it takes about 4 hours to charge the battery...something's wrong there. It shouldn't take less to drain the battery than to charge it!

Fast charge

Any fast charge tweak for this phone? Guessing not because of locked bootloader but would love my percentage to actually go up instead of down while gaming
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I agree, I would expect that if my phone is charging.. whatever I'm doing it should go up not down!
Tcm9669 said:
I agree, I would expect that if my phone is charging.. whatever I'm doing it should go up not down!
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If you're using your quad core to play games then it's understandable but it happens even with light use, so annoying how bad our battery is!
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I under clock mine to 640mhz quad. I read on forum that in some instances users weren't able to reactivate some cores after disabling them... they said they had to reset the phone to get them back up.. so that seems risky to me.
I also found a solution, one power guard, in ai mode battery goes up instead of down and seeing some small extension of battery life
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Thanks! I will give that a shot!
AW: Fast charge
my device is charging very fast when screen is off. while on its slow. using cm10.1
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The same thing also happened to Ipad3.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3813401?start=15&tstart=0
It a matter of input and output, when the charging input is lower than the output (gaming @ quad core).
During charging, the battery will heat up normally, but when you charge phone and play game at the same, it would heat up rapidly.
When phone detect that the temperature is higher than normal, as part of the safety design, it would reduce the input charge to prevent damage to the phone/battery. Hence instead of charging, it would appear to be discharging.
So during charging, it is recommended not to use your phone
@non4 said:
Any fast charge tweak for this phone? Guessing not because of locked bootloader but would love my percentage to actually go up instead of down while gaming
Sent from my LG-P880
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my phone is charged really fast even tho i have not timed it i doubt it would go down.
what you can do is buy a 2.1a charger and hope that the phone is capable of charging faster then the stock 1.2 a charger can deliver.
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Samsung Charger better than LG's

Hey everyone
Just want to ask if anybody noticed the same as me regarding the charger of LG:
if I plug the charger and use the phone it heats up really fast and charging speed is slow. The heat slows down my 4X HD and the performance is sh*tty as hell.
I once forgot my charger an used one from my dad's Samsung and I noticed a incredible difference. No heating at all and it charges much faster (with LG over night ~ 8 hours sometimes not even fully loaded from 15%, with Samsung 4-5 hours full with YouTube use and other minor things).
When I use my phone while plugged with LG charger it often even drains some battery (2-3% in 20 mins discharge, then charge up to 5% in the same time and so on).
Have anybody got the same "problems" or has my charger maybe a hardware failure?
Greetings
Marius
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Weird. My phone charges from 0%-80% in like 1 hour, then the last 20% tend to take while longer. But also if I "Overcharge" it (that is to say charge it for about 2 hours when it's still 100%) it feels like it has charged 110%. Cause it takes forever to go down to 99% but then it decreases faster.
This is with the included LG charger. If I use my samsung (which is like 500mah) it takes longer.
I don't experince any performance decrease when charging.
baxtex said:
Weird. My phone charges from 0%-80% in like 1 hour, then the last 20% tend to take while longer. But also if I "Overcharge" it (that is to say charge it for about 2 hours when it's still 100%) it feels like it has charged 110%. Cause it takes forever to go down to 99% but then it decreases faster.
This is with the included LG charger. If I use my samsung (which is like 500mah) it takes longer.
I don't experince any performance decrease when charging.
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Are you on stock rom or on a custom rom? I'm on WerewolfJB and that's maybe why it heats up but the faster charging with the Samsung charger is really noticeable, especially when I use the phone, like I said.
Thanks for sharing your experience with it
Sent from my LG-P880
Omario-242 said:
Are you on stock rom or on a custom rom? I'm on WerewolfJB and that's maybe why it heats up but the faster charging with the Samsung charger is really noticeable, especially when I use the phone, like I said.
Thanks for sharing your experience with it
Sent from my LG-P880
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I'm on a AOSP rom (Slimbean). But I do share your experience with heat, both on the phone and the charger itself. But I think it's due to the high currency.
Your charger could just be broken. LG charger's output current is rated at 1.2A which means that the battery should be charged from 0% to 100% in about 1 h 45 min. It could take longer if the charging current gets smaller when the battery is starting to get full.
Thundermand said:
Your charger could just be broken. LG charger's output current is rated at 1.2A which means that the battery should be charged from 0% to 100% in about 1 h 45 min. It could take longer if the charging current gets smaller when the battery is starting to get full.
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wrong, "charger" is not current source
for topic: your charger is bad, replace it
I had an issue that CPU was always 760mhz while charging with zen+HYPER governors. RevoltJB+OP kernel 2.53.
Noticed that my raspberry charger(2A) was faster than LG stock charger. Also normal for me too that battery even decreases while using phone at charger.
Hallako said:
I had an issue that CPU was always 760mhz while charging with zen+HYPER governors. RevoltJB+OP kernel 2.53.
Noticed that my raspberry charger(2A) was faster than LG stock charger. Also normal for me too that battery even decreases while using phone at charger.
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there is maximum allowed current to charge phone. it is controlled by electronics inside the phone. if you are using charger that has bigger maximum current it is possible that phone battery is faster charged, but as i said, it depends on interior charging circle
Charging Current 101
To clarify the above responses:
The LG charger *should* be more than adequate to charge the handset, as that is what it was designed to do....
If you were to use a different charger, e.g. one from another phone or a shop bought replacement, then the maximum output current of the charger is an important factor: the lower the rating (in mA or A) the slower the charge and therefore the longer it will take. Using the phone whilst charging will also increase the charge time as you are using the battery whilst charging it (like filling the bath with the plug out), more so with apps that load the graphics processor (GPU) such as youtube or games as these are battery intense tasks.
The rate at which the battery charges is ultimately decided by the handset; most modern phones will fast-charge most of the way, then slow charge the last few % to avoid overheating and damaging the battery, so having a charger rated to, say, 2.4A (or 2400mA) does not mean the battery will charge twice as fast as one rated at 1.2A as the phone dictates how much current it needs.
That will either clear up a lot of questions or will mean nothing at all
baxtex said:
Weird. My phone charges from 0%-80% in like 1 hour, then the last 20% tend to take while longer. But also if I "Overcharge" it (that is to say charge it for about 2 hours when it's still 100%) it feels like it has charged 110%. Cause it takes forever to go down to 99% but then it decreases faster.
This is with the included LG charger. If I use my samsung (which is like 500mah) it takes longer.
I don't experince any performance decrease when charging.
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Same. Charging here is very fast overall.

[Q] Using 2A charger for m7

Hi
Is using a 2A charger harmful or bad for my phone or its battery ?
if not what kind or which brand of charger you recommend ?
Sajijun said:
Hi
Is using a 2A charger harmful or bad for my phone or its battery ?
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A 2 Amp charger mean its capable of giving max 2A to a load, the phone only needs 1A so will only use 1A even on a 2A charger
if not what kind or which brand of charger you recommend ?
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Original charger, always
But i have charged my phone with a samsung 2A charger a few times , and the charge speed was near twice , so the phone does not use just 1A
Sajijun said:
But i have charged my phone with a samsung 2A charger a few times , and the charge speed was near twice , so the phone does not use just 1A
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your ElementalX kernel allows Fast charging on the HTC One is why
Sajijun said:
But i have charged my phone with a samsung 2A charger a few times , and the charge speed was near twice , so the phone does not use just 1A
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Hey, which one is it? I would like to know =)
Model name or sth, should be written on the charger =)
uZzY94 said:
Hey, which one is it? I would like to know =)
Model name or sth, should be written on the charger =)
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It was for my friend`s Galaxy Note 3 , he does not have the phone any more but I will find the charger and pm you for the model
The phone can handle it but the 1a is the suggested and anything more can damage the hardware. I have a rapid charger that will charge my battery to full in about 30 min from 0. It works on the stock kernel so it is not a custom kernel option. And the fast charge is a pc USB setting if you read the discripition.
zelendel said:
The phone can handle it but the 1a is the suggested and anything more can damage the hardware. I have a rapid charger that will charge my battery to full in about 30 min from 0. It works on the stock kernel so it is not a custom kernel option. And the fast charge is a pc USB setting if you read the discripition.
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Really? I've always heard that the phone knows only to pull 1A from the available amperage. I've always heard that using something less than 1a can damage the cord and possibly the charger itself.
Also: Using fast charge can seriously degrade your battery over time. Better to only use it when in a pinch.
MarkBell said:
Really? I've always heard that the phone knows only to pull 1A from the available amperage. I've always heard that using something less than 1a can damage the cord and possibly the charger itself.
Also: Using fast charge can seriously degrade your battery over time. Better to only use it when in a pinch.
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That's why I said it can damage the device. Mine is a stand alone charger so no damage to the cord.
I only use it when I really need to. Like when I have kill the battery as well as the Mophie pack and am in the middle of nowhere and need to make a fast call.
zelendel said:
That's why I said it can damage the device. Mine is a stand alone charger so no damage to the cord.
I only use it when I really need to. Like when I have kill the battery as well as the Mophie pack and am in the middle of nowhere and need to make a fast call.
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I see what you are saying. I read it differently earlier for some reason. Actually: I know the reason. I've been severely sleep deprived the past several months and have been experiencing sleep paralysis the last several months two or three times per week. Thank God I'm getting a sleep study done soon! My level of alertness is way down from what it used to be... Sorry to get off topic with that stuff, but I felt the need to explain.
clsA said:
your ElementalX kernel allows Fast charging on the HTC One is why
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But i was using the default kernel that time :|
zelendel said:
The phone can handle it but the 1a is the suggested and anything more can damage the hardware. I have a rapid charger that will charge my battery to full in about 30 min from 0. It works on the stock kernel so it is not a custom kernel option. And the fast charge is a pc USB setting if you read the discripition.
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Will this only damage the battery or more than that ?
Yeah it's not good for battery life. If you want to get the most out of the battery I wouldn't do it
Sajijun said:
Will this only damage the battery or more than that ?
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While I would tend to think HTC would be smarter then to skimp on the hardware. I will error on then side of caution and say no. You "could" mess up the port and the board.
My Htc one M7 is charging in about 3-4 hours, from 0% to 100% with original charger and cable, it's ok?
shukayru1 said:
My Htc one M7 is charging in about 3-4 hours, from 0% to 100% with original charger and cable, it's ok?
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Yes , it should be ok with a 1A standard charger
Sajijun said:
Yes , it should be ok with a 1A standard charger
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it's a problem if i will use a 2a charger?
shukayru1 said:
it's a problem if i will use a 2a charger?
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You are asking a question that this thread is about , so read the posts from the begining and you will get your answer my friend
clsA said:
your ElementalX kernel allows Fast charging on the HTC One is why
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Wrong So Wrong
Fact with stock kernel htc one m7 charges nearly 20 mins quicker
there are pro's and cons to this unless used at the right time in the right situation
sick of people saying it will harm it or that it is there to use only 1a
first of all the stock charger allows 500ma of charging and 500ma for the phones consumption whilst charging
when turned off it should only charge at 700ma
a flaw that was left on purpose by htc for monetary gain
holding fast charge and even full charge capabilities back widens the gap between the m7 and the m8
making people want to buy the m8 charger or better the m8
here's why and how they hold it back on it's full speed charging with !!!!!!!the stock HTC charger
Here is the explanation
The best way I have ever heard it put is like this
Where current is water
Imagine a water barrel that is being filled up at a rate of 1 liter an hour
The barrel has a over flow pipe aka battery if this pipe is only wide enough for half a liter an hour and you turn the tap filling the barrel to 10 liter an hour how much is the over flow receiving still half a liter.
So here is the big if and but
If you are using a 2.1a 5.1v ipad charger
Whilst gaming you have the CPU GPU and battery making heat and thus degrading Battery life and performance
If you turn the m7 off or have all apps closed and phone idle then this is far better than gaming with the stock m7 charger
as heat is the NO1. killer for battery depletion
As for comments about voltage of other chargers are irrelevant as the circuit in the phone limits voltage with a simple I/0 circuit if voltage is either under or over pre set parameters it will do nothing as it won't allow any flow of current at all
Unless lots bigger (BANG)
How is the current limited
Self explanatory as the charger states what it is built to supply
Conclusion is simple amps are limited by the charger plug or USB port
Voltage is not limited but safe gaurded by the phone so if your phone registers a charge with a 5.3v plug then it is fine as long as you use it sensibly
Apps are highly unreliable as they are a close prediction at best
And don't correctly include what is used by the phone
Also some current will be being stored all the time in capacitors
Fact the m7 charges quicker with higher ampage application measuring ampage will not be accurate.
The only accurate way is to time it from empty turned off
And blind people who say HTC know best do not understand the workings of any multinational corporation
By holding the fast charge back widens the gap between the m7 and m8 meaning more people will go and buy the m8 fast charger or even better the m8

Does Adaptive Fast Charging Come Pre-Enabled on the Note 4?

Was wondering, Does Adaptive Fast Charging Come Pre-Enabled on the Note 4? Or do we have to go to the Battery Settings first to enable it?
arjun90 said:
Was wondering, Does Adaptive Fast Charging Come Pre-Enabled on the Note 4? Or do we have to go to the Battery Settings first to enable it?
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When I got mine, it was enabled already.
Oh, if your fast charge your battery once, does it reduce your battery's lifespan in the long run, or does it need to be fast recharged several times for a notable difference?
devynbf said:
When I got mine, it was enabled already.
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arjun90 said:
Oh, if your fast charge your battery once, does it reduce your battery's lifespan in the long run, or does it need to be fast recharged several times for a notable difference?
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As a general rule, the faster you charge the battery, the hotter it gets. The hotter it gets, the more quickly it will degrade. I still use my S3 charger to charge the Note 4 overnight.
Does it really make a noticeable difference? From what I've read, probably not. But I don't think there's been much objective testing. Just using fast charging once is highly unlikely to affect it in noticeable ways at all.
If you've charged the battery once using the fast-charging method, is that going to impact the lifespan of the battery? Or does it take multiple fast-charges for the battery to begin to loose its charge?
Nowadays I use the regular 2amp Samsung charger that came with my Wireless Charger.
Noxious Ninja said:
As a general rule, the faster you charge the battery, the hotter it gets. The hotter it gets, the more quickly it will degrade. I still use my S3 charger to charge the Note 4 overnight.
Does it really make a noticeable difference? From what I've read, probably not. But I don't think there's been much objective testing.
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arjun90 said:
If you've charged the battery once using the fast-charging method, is that going to impact the lifespan of the battery? Or does it take multiple fast-charge for the battery to begin to loose its charge?
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I edited that in right after I posted, but I guess you beat me to it. As far as I can tell, it's a gradual process. Unless the phone seriously overheated during the one charge, it shouldn't have much effect at all.
Thanks, looks like I don't another one of the Fast Adaptive Chargers after all, haha.
Noxious Ninja said:
I edited that in right after I posted, but I guess you beat me to it. As far as I can tell, it's a gradual process. Unless the phone seriously overheated during the one charge, it shouldn't have much effect at all.
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Honestly I'm not sure if it diminishes battery.
I have to take it off because I'm using a Zerolemon battery and it doesn't charge all the way up unless the fast charging is off.
The adaptive charging is built in as long as you're using the included charger. It charges at a higher voltage so it's not as damaging as say, a 3 amp charger would be, but it takes many many fast charges to affect the battery's performance. Generally speaking though, the faster you charge the more capacity you lose over time, but the worst thing you can do is charge it &leave it plugged in for hours fully charged. I use an old Bluetooth charger that's 500mah when i charge overnight & the fast charger at work or in the living room.

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