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Does anyone know yet which of these models(Z/ZL) are coming to the US? And maybe a release date?
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Both will probably be coming to the US, but only unlocked through Sony's own retail channels. If I'm right both sets will work with HSPA+ on AT&T and T-Mobile (so no LTE).
Spectre should have more info on this though.
Ambroos said:
Both will probably be coming to the US, but only unlocked through Sony's own retail channels. If I'm right both sets will work with HSPA+ on AT&T and T-Mobile (so no LTE).
Spectre should have more info on this though.
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No LTE on AT&T is a bit a waste, isn't it?
Ambroos said:
Both will probably be coming to the US, but only unlocked through Sony's own retail channels. If I'm right both sets will work with HSPA+ on AT&T and T-Mobile (so no LTE).
Spectre should have more info on this though.
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roninr1c said:
No LTE on AT&T is a bit a waste, isn't it?
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The ZL will have LTE but not the Z which will only be HSPA+ (still very fast, I get upto 6.5 Mbps on my Xperia T on at&t on their HSPA+ network).
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No LTE on AT&T is a bit a waste, isn't it?
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Not really, considering AT&T's transfer caps.
Even if I had LTE available in my area, I'd take an unlocked HSPA+ device over a carrier-mangled locked-down LTE device without any hesitation.
LTE isn't all it is cracked up to be, once you take into account monthly transfer limitations (Since AT&T now throttles "unlimited" users, there is no such thing as "unlimited" any more.), especially if you have access to HSPA+.
LTE was more critical for Verizon users, since CDMA2000 hit a wall without an upgrade path far earlier than UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ did.
I'm really hoping the rumors that the Z will be sold directly in a timely fashion are going to be true.
The ZL will be available from AT&T as far as I can tell, but that version will suffer from complete lockdown in addition to traditional AT&T firmware mutilation.
Entropy512 said:
I'm really hoping the rumors that the Z will be sold directly in a timely fashion are going to be true.
The ZL will be available from AT&T as far as I can tell, but that version will suffer from complete lockdown in addition to traditional AT&T firmware mutilation.
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Its still up in the air about the Z availability in the US. Hoping its sold directly too.
AT&T isn't picking up the Z or ZL. but both should work on its network.
So till now, AT&T was the only carrier that sold the sony smartphones, with the only exception I think was the playstation phone on verizon.
So the most logical thing for me is Sony to push again through AT&T, because:
1) They already have done business in the past, and have worked out the business side, so it's a safe bet, they might try to work deals with other carriers later through the year to have bigger exposure to the market.
2) It's a flagship phone, Sony will try to get it in the hands of as many people, the comment that it'll be available only full price in retail channels made me laugh The situation is so heated, that they'll have to loose ton of money, just to try to snatch some market, to have a chance to stay a player in this market. They surely want to be in this market, why would they make the Z and show it at CES when no other big name was revealing top models - so they grab the spotlight at CES, and the phone doesn't get lost in all the announcements coming in Feb from the mobile congress.
3) AT&T would love to have another strong horse in the race so they are not dependent only on Apple or Samsung for the best devices they offer. For AT&T the bigger portfolio of manufacturers that want to move devices on their network gives them edge on pricing and other deal terms.
So yeah, I can bet money that in couple of weeks, there will be announcement/leak that AT&T will carry a Z/ZL phone, with LTE of course.
Spectre51 has said it before, AT&T won't be carrying the ZL or Z. The ZL will be sold unlocked through Sony's own retail channels, the Z may be sold unlocked too.
Spectre51 said:
Its still up in the air about the Z availability in the US. Hoping its sold directly too.
AT&T isn't picking up the Z or ZL. but both should work on its network.
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What's your source?
Inspiredwire said:
What's your source?
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He is the source. As far as I know he works at AT&T but I'm not sure.
I'm starting to like this phone. I'm currently on T-Mobile so I probably will only see 3G speeds correct? If so maybe StraightTalk could be an option as my contract expires in June of this year.
peaceburn said:
So yeah, I can bet money that in couple of weeks, there will be announcement/leak that AT&T will carry a Z/ZL phone, with LTE of course.
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I'll take your money if you want. Its not happening.
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I wonder why AT&T would skip out on such a great device. Especially considering what appears to be a long term relationship with Sony. It doesn't make much sense...
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They were supposed to pick up the ZL but backed out a month or so ago. They will be picking up the Fall device from Sony and it's supposed to be a flagship phone.
I asked one of the AT&T associates and they confirmed they will be getting zl but not sure about the z
darksora145 said:
I asked one of the AT&T associates and they confirmed they will be getting zl but not sure about the z
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Hmm I would consider buying a factory unlocked ZL then and using it on ATT's network - less bloat.
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i really want thi sphone!!
Fingers crossed on att with lte!
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:sigh: I give up.
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Guys I've gotta say that spectre is usually right on about stuff like this. I've seen him in the ion forums and he seems to have insider information.
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I am planning to pull the trigger, like in 2 minutes.
I currently use T-Mobile ($30 plan) on my Nexus 4 and enjoy HSPA+ speeds in NYC. Does T-Mobile work on the Xperia Z on their 3G network? Or is it like my iPhone 4 and will be stuck on EDGE forever.
Thanks
amdhunter said:
I am planning to pull the trigger, like in 2 minutes.
I currently use T-Mobile ($30 plan) on my Nexus 4 and enjoy HSPA+ speeds in NYC. Does T-Mobile work on the Xperia Z on their 3G network? Or is it like my iPhone 4 and will be stuck on EDGE forever.
Thanks
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did you buy the 6603 or 6602 version? if 6603 then yes if 6602, u will get HSPA+
I just got a C6602 replacing my Nexus 4, HSPA+ speeds are the same on a $30 plan T-Mobile SIM.
amdhunter said:
I am planning to pull the trigger, like in 2 minutes.
I currently use T-Mobile ($30 plan) on my Nexus 4 and enjoy HSPA+ speeds in NYC. Does T-Mobile work on the Xperia Z on their 3G network? Or is it like my iPhone 4 and will be stuck on EDGE forever.
Thanks
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Since you are in NYC, head down to Bowery Street and At GSM in order to get the C6602. I bought my device there.
It supports the T-Mobile bands and is the obvious version to get for use in the US. The C6603 should be avoided since it lacks the important bands, not only for T-Mobile but it is also a bit crippled on the AT&T network.
The good thing is that the C6602 can use the same ROMs as C6603. So no need to worry about developer support.
E90 Commie said:
Since you are in NYC, head down to Bowery Street and At GSM in order to get the C6602. I bought my device there.
It supports the T-Mobile bands and is the obvious version to get for use in the US. The C6603 should be avoided since it lacks the important bands, not only for T-Mobile but it is also a bit crippled on the AT&T network.
The good thing is that the C6602 can use the same ROMs as C6603. So no need to worry about developer support.
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Thanks! I'm pulling the trigger on this guy here.
Any reason I shouldn't? Price? Wrong phone?
amdhunter said:
Thanks! I'm pulling the trigger on this guy here.
Any reason I shouldn't? Price? Wrong phone?
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That is a good option so go for it. The only thing I wonder about is how it can have the US warranty since the C6602 isn't sold here, officially. It is an imported unit and they are usually without US warranties. If Sony offers a better policy than Samsung for example and honor the warranty, it is great news for me too. My previous imported phones has been the Note and Note II and Samsung doesn't cover them under the US warranty so that is why I think it is surprising to see it for that C6602.
its never too late?
it may be too late but negri electronics has it for 581.50 plus a $10 coupon that brings it down to 571.50, no tax free shipping
got it on ebay from HK user...free BT lol not that i will use it but gonna bundle with my old phone and sell it. O and its 591 with free shipping, takes a while though :/
I am literally loosing sleep over the z1 ready to buy it but just weary of the fact that it wont support lte in my area.. what can I do?
teamHTC said:
I am literally loosing sleep over the z1 ready to buy it but just weary of the fact that it wont support lte in my area.. what can I do?
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Are in in the USA?
If you're not under contract, I'd just get a Straightalk t-mobile sim. What Straightalk does is " rent" other carriers networks, includung both AT&T and T-mobile. Straightalk doesn't support LTE. With T-mobile' awesome HSPA+42 speeds and great coverage, you won't miss LTE, plus it's only $45 bucks a month. HSPA+42 is really close to LTE but with better coverage. One of the joys of having an unlocked phone is freedom to choose a cheap carrier.
The reason T-mobile doesn't suck as much as it used to is because of the failed merger of AT&T and T-mobile. It gave them extra money to upgrade their network and more bands.
It seems there is a model that supports AT&T LTE, the C6906, but don't count me on it. Refer to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2438443&page=2
If you end up getting a z1 model c6903 which doesn't have LTE on AT&T, and must have AT&T, I'd again recommend a straightalk AT&T sim so you are not paying for LTE which the c6903 can't use. On AT&T HSPA+21 is the fastest you'll get.
If you're close to the end of your contract, I'd just get a C6903 and switch when you finish out the contract.
you will get hspa+ but no lte
That is on AT&T.. On T-Mobile, you can get LTE!
teamHTC said:
I am literally loosing sleep over the z1 ready to buy it but just weary of the fact that it wont support lte in my area.. what can I do?
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Maybe if you searched before making new thread you would have seen that there are at least 3 threads on this topic, which have all answered you question.
I think the question is, has anyone actually seen a C6906 variant?
komugi said:
I think the question is, has anyone actually seen a C6906 variant?
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yeah, im just wondering if this even exists. if not then ill go ahead and purchase my z1, because I just prefer the design and quality over any at&t phone and although lte is a big deal, hey im an android guy ill get over it in 2 months when a new phone comes out and I sell it. LOL and as for the galaxy active.......HIDEOUS HIDEOUS HIDEOUS! ill take a z1 with no internet at all over a gs active ....why samsung.... WHY! you make beautiful tvs but why the ugly phones!!!!!
Hi, Does anyone in NYC with AT&T able to get your Z1 running with LTE network?
My model is C6903
C6906 yes, havent tried c6903 tho
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choihan06 said:
C6906 yes, havent tried c6903 tho
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How much you got yours?
C6906 has all at&t bands (but verify this) in other threads I read that the 03 variant has one at&t band so in some cities you may get a signal. BTW I wouldn't bet on the latter.
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304608377 said:
How much you got yours?
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I got this c6906 from sony store in Canada for 599+tax came close to 680ish (rogers locked phone but unlocked it after purchase, unlocked one cost 699+tax = 790). i tried this with my buddy's ATT simcard just to test it out and its working fine and everything went perfect..
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I got this c6906 from sony store in Canada for 599+tax came close to 680ish (rogers locked phone but unlocked it after purchase, unlocked one cost 699+tax = 790). i tried this with my buddy's ATT simcard just to test it out and its working fine and everything went perfect..
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LOL too expensive to me. I got mine c6903 model for$600. I'm running it with hspa+ now.
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LOL too expensive to me. I got mine c6903 model for$600. I'm running it with hspa+ now.
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haha i think speed difference between LTE and 4G(h+) is huge man..
I would pay extra cash for the phone with right lte frequency for my current service provider, without any hesitation, or i would even switch to other carrier that supports right frequency if i can't afford to change my phone, which in your case, T mobile i think.
But then again that's just me :laugh:
choihan06 said:
haha i think speed difference between LTE and 4G(h+) is huge man..
I would pay extra cash for the phone with right lte frequency for my current service provider, without any hesitation, or i would even switch to other carrier that supports right frequency if i can't afford to change my phone, which in your case, T mobile i think.
But then again that's just me :laugh:
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Love this phone but to switch to c6906 I need to spend $750 and sell c6903 on ebay which if i got lucky sold for $550 and then ebay will charges me $55 fees so LOL... I might just wait to Dec 25th and then get an Iphone 5s from apple for $449 and use Xperia z1 as secondly phone. TOO bad I didn't do the research before buying it. It's my first time to buy an unlocked phone with full price. I used to use contract phone till time is up to get a new contract phone. But Htc one really makes me feel bad and wanted to get rid of it asap.
Does any1 know if the z1 will be released for att? I too am in NYC really wanna get this phone
Brooklynsour said:
Does any1 know if the z1 will be released for att? I too am in NYC really wanna get this phone
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i dont think att will going to have z1 but i believe t-mobile will have z1 since they released z.
devastating news i hope your wrong
Stupid question:
I have a UK Xperia Z on O2 and am due to move to the US at the end of the year. I'll need to get a contract with a US carrier of course, but my question is whether my UK Xperia Z will work with a US carrier? As said it might be a daft question but I wasn't sure and I dont want to find out when I'm sitting in a hotel in New York wondering why my phone doesn't work.
Won't you get a new phone with a new contract?
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Yes it will work. I believe on att as far as hspa+ and T-Mobile edge. I'm 90% sure as I have had a few carrier locked international phones that were completely unlocked once over here in the states. So I don't see why this would be any difference.
You won't be able to get LTE (4G) in some regions with AT&T since they use 2 different LTE bands which one is not compatible with the Z.
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What version of the Z do you have? C660?
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Sorry, I remembered wrong. It's 3G I was talking about. I was in Arizona 1,5 month ago and had no 3G using Red Pocket who uses AT&T network. My fiancee has Xperia P and had 3G using same network.
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Energizer Bunny said:
Stupid question:
I have a UK Xperia Z on O2 and am due to move to the US at the end of the year. I'll need to get a contract with a US carrier of course, but my question is whether my UK Xperia Z will work with a US carrier? As said it might be a daft question but I wasn't sure and I dont want to find out when I'm sitting in a hotel in New York wondering why my phone doesn't work.
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The smartest move is to sell it in the UK and buy a new phone in the US. The Xperia Z you have is not compatible with US LTE bands and probably not with T-Mobile's AWS 3G+.
Energizer Bunny said:
Stupid question:
I have a UK Xperia Z on O2 and am due to move to the US at the end of the year. I'll need to get a contract with a US carrier of course, but my question is whether my UK Xperia Z will work with a US carrier? As said it might be a daft question but I wasn't sure and I dont want to find out when I'm sitting in a hotel in New York wondering why my phone doesn't work.
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I have C6602 and I just moved to US, it is working fine with AT&T and T-Mobile, no need to worry my friend