Hello there.
so I'm plannin on getting moto x from verizon and have a few questions.
So I can root my moto x using this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45598679
but what do I do after? Install SuperSU? CWM app? How do I get recovery menu and what's the purpose?
Sorry for so many question, I've been reading a lot and its a ton of information. So if anyone could simply explain it to me, that would be great.
thnx in advance.
Rooting your phone just lets you do what you want with your phone whether it's tethering and using hotspot for free or changing the theme, if you don't want to do any of that then you don't even need to root, for a beginner I wouldn't root your phone until you want to do something that requires root
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I'd say if you don't know then you don't need it right now. Play around with your phone and get to know it. Feel her out. You'll find some things you want to change, or get rid of. When you get to that point, then you'll need root.
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I've been using android in the past for a short period of time, but I guess that doesnt count. So I want to root my future moto x for example, I want to get rid of those Verizon stock apps, cuz I wont be using those. And like to freeze the OTA updates. And just explore what I can do wit it, since its an open source OS.
Cwm recovery on the Verizon moto x is not available because the bootloader isn't unlocked unless you get dev edition, but root is available with PwnMyMoto and you can use xposed modules to change toggles, notification bar layout and nav bar height etc. If you use that root method and want to return to stock make sure you get familiar with RSDlite and fastboot. IMHO the stock ROM layout is already near perfect so besides some xposed stuff and freezing apps via Tbu there's not much more that really needs to be done to this phone, I think you'll be very happy with it as is. Active notifications, touchless controls, Motorola connect etc are awesome. Let us know how you like it when you receive it!
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Cwm recovery on the Verizon moto x is not available because the bootloader isn't unlocked unless you get dev edition, but root is available with PwnMyMoto and you can use xposed modules to change toggles, notification bar layout and nav bar height etc. If you use that root method and want to return to stock make sure you get familiar with RSDlite and fastboot. IMHO the stock ROM layout is already near perfect so besides some xposed stuff and freezing apps via Tbu there's not much more that really needs to be done to this phone, I think you'll be very happy with it as is. Active notifications, touchless controls, Motorola connect etc are awesome. Let us know how you like it when you receive it!
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Thnx for solid reply. So to my understanding, in order to use TBU I need to root first, right? And Since cwm recovery is no available due to locked bootloader I wont be able to flash custom roms, if there are any? Not saying I want to, just want to know =) Any other option of recovery?
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Thnx for solid reply. So to my understanding, in order to use TBU I need to root first, right? And Since cwm recovery is no available due to locked bootloader I wont be able to flash custom roms, if there are any? Not saying I want to, just want to know =) Any other option of recovery?
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yes thats right tibu does need root since your looking to freeze/uninstall system apps. And as far as recoveries, there is a workaround called safestrap which is based off of TWRP that uses "rom slots" Im not entirely sure how it works though, probably someone more knowledgeable about that can chime in.
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I have xposed framework installed, and using motoXposed. I want to unlink ringer and notification sounds, I know that Gravity Box can, that's maybe the only feature I would use from it.
As I'm still learning what works best, wondering if that's the best choice, or if anyone knows if there's another, maybe "lighter" mod for what I'm looking for I just don't want to mess it up, as I'm not very experienced with ADB, Fastboot and RSD (I know, I need to learn in case I have to restore to stock, etc)
Appreciate any help
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I have xposed framework installed, and using motoXposed. I want to unlink ringer and notification sounds, I know that Gravity Box can, that's maybe the only feature I would use from it.
As I'm still learning what works best, wondering if that's the best choice, or if anyone knows if there's another, maybe "lighter" mod for what I'm looking for I just don't want to mess it up, as I'm not very experienced with ADB, Fastboot and RSD (I know, I need to learn in case I have to restore to stock, etc)
Appreciate any help
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Gravity box works perfectly for me, besides unlinking sounds , you also can expand sound controls, 30 volume steps also works fine
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flashallthetime said:
Gravity box works perfectly for me, besides unlinking sounds , you also can expand sound controls, 30 volume steps also works fine
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Thanks, was reading that in the description, which sounds good. Reading up on Fastboot and RSD Lite (in case of a bootloop, etc) realized the other day this is my first phone without a removable battery (luckily only had one brief bootloop in 3 years flashing on my Samsung) but fearing it with this device, as I'd be worried while I'm trying to figure things out and it's in a bootloop... as I would guess, or at least "looks" like it's bad for the phone
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Thanks, was reading that in the description, which sounds good. Reading up on Fastboot and RSD Lite (in case of a bootloop, etc) realized the other day this is my first phone without a removable battery (luckily only had one brief bootloop in 3 years flashing on my Samsung) but fearing it with this device, as I'd be worried while I'm trying to figure things out and it's in a bootloop... as I would guess, or at least "looks" like it's bad for the phone
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I believe if you use a root explorer you should see a flashable xposed framework Disabler zip file located on your sdcard. I haven't had one issue with xposed framework, just had to do a rsdlite flash yesterday due to a bad flash with a cm10.2 ROM , I couldn't restore my back ups as they failed and flashing any other ROM resulted in boot loops.
Xposed is safe and if you end up in a boot loop due to xposed just flash the Disabler zip
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Thanks, xposed does sound pretty safe. I'm used to having custom roms, custom recovery on my old phone. I'm still learning with only being rooted, don't have safestrap, so no cwm, etc, presuming I can't flash a zip file with just root? Reading a lot, but still a learning curve for me.
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M973 said:
Thanks, xposed does sound pretty safe. I'm used to having custom roms, custom recovery on my old phone. I'm still learning with only being rooted, don't have safestrap, so no cwm, etc, presuming I can't flash a zip file with just root? Reading a lot, but still a learning curve for me.
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The only issues with xposed tend to be with pwnmymoto root method, if your boot loader is unlocked and have a custom recovery, you should have no issues running xposed
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The only issues with xposed tend to be with pwnmymoto root method, if your boot loader is unlocked and have a custom recovery, you should have no issues running xposed
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Thanks, Pwnmymoto is the root method I have, don't have unlocked boot loader. Hopefully won't cause issues, hasn't so far with xposed framework and MotoXposed, and mainly just want to use the unlink volumes feature in Gravity box.
M973 said:
Thanks, Pwnmymoto is the root method I have, don't have unlocked boot loader. Hopefully won't cause issues, hasn't so far with xposed framework and MotoXposed, and mainly just want to use the unlink volumes feature in Gravity box.
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Try this module http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=
It only unlinks all sounds
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flashallthetime said:
Try this module http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=
It only unlinks all sounds
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Thanks, though appears thread isn't there anymore (unless the url wasn't complete in the link?)
Was it this perhaps? (just saw this) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2416768
M973 said:
Thanks, though appears thread isn't there anymore (unless the url wasn't complete in the link?)
Was it this perhaps? (just saw this) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2416768
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Yes correct module
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thanks, works great
Okay, I am just wanting to clear things up for myself with this question. I've seen it similarly asked on other threads, but I have yet to find answer to them.
Currently, I am Stock + camera update + rooted with RockMyMoto. I haven't frozen or uninstalled or otherwise done anything to system apps or files (I disabled a few through Android itself before root, but never touched them since) I do use Permissions Denied; an app that does what it says for any app I chose, however I only use it for non-system apps. My phone is essentially stock, with root (bootloader locked). Thats all I want for whenever I update to 4.4 at the moment. Speaking of which...
I am trying to determine the best way to go about this. Since I havent done much to my phone, I am curious to know if I can just install the OTA (since I've altered no system files, but I know this isn't usually advised) then apply the latest root method done by jcase. Can it be as straight forward as that? Or do I absolutely need to flash back to STOCK stock, apply the camera update, the apply the 4.4 update, THEN use his method?
Trying to find a method that is at least safe. Preferably safe, quick and easy. But I know these methods aren't always quick .
NameLessThugZero said:
Okay, I am just wanting to clear things up for myself with this question. I've seen it similarly asked on other threads, but I have yet to find answer to them.
Currently, I am Stock + camera update + rooted with RockMyMoto. I haven't frozen or uninstalled or otherwise done anything to system apps or files (I disabled a few through Android itself before root, but never touched them since) I do use Permissions Denied; an app that does what it says for any app I chose, however I only use it for non-system apps. My phone is essentially stock, with root (bootloader locked). Thats all I want for whenever I update to 4.4 at the moment. Speaking of which...
I am trying to determine the best way to go about this. Since I havent done much to my phone, I am curious to know if I can just install the OTA (since I've altered no system files, but I know this isn't usually advised) then apply the latest root method done by jcase. Can it be as straight forward as that? Or do I absolutely need to flash back to STOCK stock, apply the camera update, the apply the 4.4 update, THEN use his method?
Trying to find a method that is at least safe. Preferably safe, quick and easy. But I know these methods aren't always quick .
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Pawnymoto hijacks the stock recovery so you won't be able to install the update, you need to flash the stick recovery at the least
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Pawnymoto hijacks the stock recovery so you won't be able to install the update, you need to flash the stick recovery at the least
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What do I need in order to do that, or should I just RSD lite back to a stock Moto X?
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What do I need in order to do that, or should I just RSD lite back to a stock Moto X?
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I would say its safer to rsdlite back to 100% stock, that way you know everything is ready to accept the ota and you won't end up in a bootloop
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Bought the unlocked Moto X, and loving it so far.
But there are a few things I want changed: I want easy access to block certain permissions to certain apps, block ads, see how much percent of the battery is left in the top bar along with the icon.
If I understand correctly, there are two ways to achieve those things: Get root access and install apps which require superuser access, or install a custom ROM.
What would you recommend? Is there a custom ROM that can even be installed on the Moto X? How mature is it?
Thanks! Just trying to see what my options are.
I just unlocked the boot loader then installed twrp which will ask if you want to root the first time you boot into it. I then installed xposed and gravity box. It's the best combo I have for now.
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Thanks! Now I see some keywords - will be reading more about all this stuff
So if I understand correctly, you didn't install a custom ROM? What factors went into this decision?
Roms aren't needed because most of us can do customization ourselves with xposed modules. Unlike sense and touchwiz, Moto adds very little bloat so there's no need for any tweaks a rom may promote since the device has never been laggy for me. GravityBox is a very useful app to have. Additionally you can use modules like Xprivacy and MinMinGuard to help with restricting data apps have access to and toning down ads, respectively.
Thanks, guys!
Will follow your advice here - I'll stick with the stock ROM.
Already unlocked the bootloader (super easy).
Now I need to install TWRP, but to do that I need software which is called mfastboot
This thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
gives this link for the mfastboot software
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0dUKGxGylgNTk43eU0xc3VLekE/edit?usp=sharing
But it never says who developed it, and where it actually comes from. Do we just need to trust it?
sksol said:
Thanks, guys!
Will follow your advice here - I'll stick with the stock ROM.
Already unlocked the bootloader (super easy).
Now I need to install TWRP, but to do that I need software which is called mfastboot
This thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
gives this link for the mfastboot software
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0dUKGxGylgNTk43eU0xc3VLekE/edit?usp=sharing
But it never says who developed it, and where it actually comes from. Do we just need to trust it?
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It´s made by Motorola themselves. mfastboot was made to flash Motorola devices since normal flashboot can´t or something like that (can´t remember )
sksol said:
Bought the unlocked Moto X, and loving it so far.
But there are a few things I want changed: I want easy access to block certain permissions to certain apps, block ads, see how much percent of the battery is left in the top bar along with the icon.
If I understand correctly, there are two ways to achieve those things: Get root access and install apps which require superuser access, or install a custom ROM.
What would you recommend? Is there a custom ROM that can even be installed on the Moto X? How mature is it?
Thanks! Just trying to see what my options are.
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Permissions (Only works on 4.3-4.4)- LINK
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DO A LOT WITH THIS
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Permissions (Only works on 4.3-4.4)- LINK
Ads- LINK
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DO A LOT WITH THIS
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Once rooted, AdAway is a really good app. I like how it uses the phones Host file, the same method I use to block ads on my computer.
I went with the xposed way.
Everything works like a charm.
Until I got a message "New system software available!" It asks me to upgrade to 4.4.2.
What does this mean? Do I have to revert all changes I've done so far? I clicked No, maybe later just to be safe. But what is usually done in this scenario?
sksol said:
I went with the xposed way.
Everything works like a charm.
Until I got a message "New system software available!" It asks me to upgrade to 4.4.2.
What does this mean? Do I have to revert all changes I've done so far? I clicked No, maybe later just to be safe. But what is usually done in this scenario?
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It would probably fail if you did take the update since you have made modifications to the Stock ROM. You have to be 100% Stock without any modifications to take the Update.
My setup: 4.4 ATT Moto X, Rooted (by way of latest jcase method), Locked bootloader, and I'm pretty sure write protection is off (though I don't remember how to check)
What I am wanting to know is how would and should I be able to get to 4.4.2, and get my root back (as I'm not confident any method will be able to "keep" my root safely without screwing something else up)? What's the best way based on my setup, and what files or tools would I need(stock 4.4 or 4.4.2 ROM, a new recovery image, etc)?
Since the root method I used hijacks the recovery, I suppose I technically don't have a functional one (other than it maintaining my root). Do I even need a custom recovery? I don't ever plan to flash anything other than basic stock firmware, though I may toy around with Xposed in the future. Also as a sidenote, im currently using ART instead of Dalvik. If any method or technique might conflict with that (other than Xposed), then let me know to the best of your knowledge.
Write protection will be enabled on 4.4.2. You can have root, but a shutdown or hard reboot will erase the changes you make that are root oriented.
As far as getting to 4.4.2.....tonnes of info already here...multiple threads.
Here's a basic guide...and Google can help too. Read any thread related to 4.4.2 and locked bootloaders.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
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I am using safestrap on my locked AT&T moto to get 4.4.2 + root + r/w on system - works perfectly.
(I modified the OTA to create a flashable zip that patches stock 4.4 up to 4.4.2, without updating the bootloader. I have an untested 4.4.2 flashable zip, and when the official SBF is released, I'll make another and test it myself.)
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Write protection will be enabled on 4.4.2. You can have root, but a shutdown or hard reboot will erase the changes you make that are root oriented.
As far as getting to 4.4.2.....tonnes of info already here...multiple threads.
Here's a basic guide...and Google can help too. Read any thread related to 4.4.2 and locked bootloaders.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
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Honestly i dont even care to have an unlocked bootloader. I just realy need root after I update. Write protection, so far i think, i've only needed for AdAway to work on my phone, though Im sure I have used or applied it else on my device. And thanks for the thread, but I was already subscribed .
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I am using safestrap on my locked AT&T moto to get 4.4.2 + root + r/w on system - works perfectly.
(I modified the OTA to create a flashable zip that patches stock 4.4 up to 4.4.2, without updating the bootloader. I have an untested 4.4.2 flashable zip, and when the official SBF is released, I'll make another and test it myself.)
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While I would like to test that out further for you, I have only one phone lol. I very lightly looked in safestrap sometime ago when I was trying to find how to root previous versions of my phones software. Back then I didn't feel I needed it, as I was and still am trying to keep things simple this time around with my Android device. I'll look into it again and see if needs have changed, but would reeeeeally like to just find a way to get root after updating. Your way does actually sound enticing however.
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While I would like to test that out further for you, I have only one phone lol. I very lightly looked in safestrap sometime ago when I was trying to find how to root previous versions of my phones software. Back then I didn't feel I needed it, as I was and still am trying to keep things simple this time around with my Android device. I'll look into it again and see if needs have changed, but would reeeeeally like to just find a way to get root after updating. Your way does actually sound enticing however.
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The only ways to use 4.4.2 Rooted with Write Protection DISABLED is the Safestrap way, or to unlock your bootloader.
Since you have AT&T, Moto doesn't give out the code to unlock your bootloader (Non-Developer Edition Verizon phones are the same way.) so if you really want to unlock your bootloader, see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/verizon-moto-maker-bootloader-unlock-t2680651 I know the thread title says VERIZON but it works for ATT users too.
I see, thanks for the explanation, because I certainly wouldn't have know it was for AT&T users too! I'll check them out.
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I am using safestrap on my locked AT&T moto to get 4.4.2 + root + r/w on system - works perfectly.
(I modified the OTA to create a flashable zip that patches stock 4.4 up to 4.4.2, without updating the bootloader. I have an untested 4.4.2 flashable zip, and when the official SBF is released, I'll make another and test it myself.)[/QUOTE
So essentially, I cant just install Safestrap, then update to 4.4.2, correct? I'd need to do what you did, which is to modify the OTA?
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So essentially, I cant just install Safestrap, then update to 4.4.2, correct? I'd need to do what you did, which is to modify the OTA?
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Right. You want a modified version of the OTA that does not modify your bootloader and will patch /system from 4.4 to 4.4.2. I also manually patched the kernel up to 4.4.2.
And, my experience is that you also have to downgrade to 4.2.2. I don't quite understand why, but I have never been able to upgrade to 4.4.x (neither from the 4.4 leak or the official 4.4 version) without going back to 4.2.2 first. The eclipse ROM instructions, on the other hand, suggest that a safestrap:twrp factory wipe might be enough, but I remember trying that once, and it didn't work. YMMV
I already made a zip to flash a full copy of 4.4.2 (not a patch) that I made from my system dump, but it hasn't been tested. (I'm waiting for the SBF.)
Alright. Well I guess I'll have to wait a bit for someone to come out or prove there's a safer, surer method to update. Moto always did like to make thing like this difficult, heh.
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Good evening, I've just bought a Motorola Moto X XT1058 here in my country (Colombia) and I would like to know what steps can I take to being able to root and install a tweaked ROM based on the some official ROM (I dont like CM or AOSP, I enjoy a ROM based in a Stock ROM). There are too many ROMs and too many ROOT methods and I do not know which one use for XT1058. Thanks for the help.
1- Unlock the bootloader
2- Flash TWRP via fastboot
3- Flash SuperSU via TWRP
Thats all!
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Everything you need to know is here,
The Complete Moto X Guide
And as for ROMs, there aren't many, so read the opening posts in the dev section and see what's for you and stock based.
You can't unlocked the XT1058 bootloader, so you can't root the device. The older Android version was rootable, but not anymore. There is a Chinese guy that sell bootloader unlock codes for 2014 version of the phone, you can read more about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
Some news about unlock XT1058?
Hi folks,
I'll try to resurect this thread
I just get a refurbished MotoX, that unfortunatelly was a XT1058 att...
I would like to know if there has been new devlopments about unlocking its bootloader, knowing that I am under Lollipop 5.1 now.
My aim is to root the phone, especially to use apps that automatically cut the data, wifi or any connexions such as lean data. By default here is question 2: is there a way to use such kind of app without rooting?
Thanks a lot,
Smelc
smelc said:
Hi folks,
I'll try to resurect this thread
I just get a refurbished MotoX, that unfortunatelly was a XT1058 att...
I would like to know if there has been new devlopments about unlocking its bootloader, knowing that I am under Lollipop 5.1 now.
My aim is to root the phone, especially to use apps that automatically cut the data, wifi or any connexions such as lean data. By default here is question 2: is there a way to use such kind of app without rooting?
Thanks a lot,
Smelc
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Juice defender likely does what you want...no root required. But be warned....it usually wastes more battery than it saves. There's no need to disable those things. If battery life is bad....there's likely a reason. Like app wakelocks. Check out Wakelock detector's pc version, no root required to see app wakelocks. Phone battery stat apps need root to show app wakelocks. You need to troubleshoot. Battery saving apps are terrible. Unless MAYBE if your're an extremely light user that barely touches their phone.
Also, as far as I know....unless Sunshine works on 5.1 now, there is no way to unlock your bootloader, or root at this time. Sorry.