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[Q] New to andoid/moto x

Hello there.
so I'm plannin on getting moto x from verizon and have a few questions.
So I can root my moto x using this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45598679
but what do I do after? Install SuperSU? CWM app? How do I get recovery menu and what's the purpose?
Sorry for so many question, I've been reading a lot and its a ton of information. So if anyone could simply explain it to me, that would be great.
thnx in advance.

Rooting your phone just lets you do what you want with your phone whether it's tethering and using hotspot for free or changing the theme, if you don't want to do any of that then you don't even need to root, for a beginner I wouldn't root your phone until you want to do something that requires root
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I'd say if you don't know then you don't need it right now. Play around with your phone and get to know it. Feel her out. You'll find some things you want to change, or get rid of. When you get to that point, then you'll need root.
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I've been using android in the past for a short period of time, but I guess that doesnt count. So I want to root my future moto x for example, I want to get rid of those Verizon stock apps, cuz I wont be using those. And like to freeze the OTA updates. And just explore what I can do wit it, since its an open source OS.

Cwm recovery on the Verizon moto x is not available because the bootloader isn't unlocked unless you get dev edition, but root is available with PwnMyMoto and you can use xposed modules to change toggles, notification bar layout and nav bar height etc. If you use that root method and want to return to stock make sure you get familiar with RSDlite and fastboot. IMHO the stock ROM layout is already near perfect so besides some xposed stuff and freezing apps via Tbu there's not much more that really needs to be done to this phone, I think you'll be very happy with it as is. Active notifications, touchless controls, Motorola connect etc are awesome. Let us know how you like it when you receive it!
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davidtb12 said:
Cwm recovery on the Verizon moto x is not available because the bootloader isn't unlocked unless you get dev edition, but root is available with PwnMyMoto and you can use xposed modules to change toggles, notification bar layout and nav bar height etc. If you use that root method and want to return to stock make sure you get familiar with RSDlite and fastboot. IMHO the stock ROM layout is already near perfect so besides some xposed stuff and freezing apps via Tbu there's not much more that really needs to be done to this phone, I think you'll be very happy with it as is. Active notifications, touchless controls, Motorola connect etc are awesome. Let us know how you like it when you receive it!
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Thnx for solid reply. So to my understanding, in order to use TBU I need to root first, right? And Since cwm recovery is no available due to locked bootloader I wont be able to flash custom roms, if there are any? Not saying I want to, just want to know =) Any other option of recovery?

MadFunnyBruh said:
Thnx for solid reply. So to my understanding, in order to use TBU I need to root first, right? And Since cwm recovery is no available due to locked bootloader I wont be able to flash custom roms, if there are any? Not saying I want to, just want to know =) Any other option of recovery?
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yes thats right tibu does need root since your looking to freeze/uninstall system apps. And as far as recoveries, there is a workaround called safestrap which is based off of TWRP that uses "rom slots" Im not entirely sure how it works though, probably someone more knowledgeable about that can chime in.

[Q] Building rom? any advices?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801690
using this thread if this helps me customize moto x roms..
any ideas? i dont have unlock bootloader on vzn

TronXiix said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801690
using this thread if this helps me customize moto x roms..
any ideas? i dont have unlock bootloader on vzn
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You'll need an unlocked bootloader for that. Otherwise all ROMs that you want to flash must be signed by Motorola themselves. (and if I'm not wrong, if you're on the AT&T or Verizon version of the Moto X, you're almost sh*t out of luck for a bootloader unlock.)
If you need to customize only some aspects of the ROM (such as quick settings, power menus) you might want to look into the Xposed framework and its modules. Things like MotoXposed, Advanced Power Menu (APM) and GravityBox should give you what you need. However, if you're on 4.4 already, it's best to wait a while as much of the code has not been ported over to KitKat yet. I had to uninstall everything yesterday as it was giving me random restarts on my phone.
tl;dr: You can't. Check out Xposed. But be patient for fixes.

RagnaParadise said:
You'll need an unlocked bootloader for that. Otherwise all ROMs that you want to flash must be signed by Motorola themselves. (and if I'm not wrong, if you're on the AT&T or Verizon version of the Moto X, you're almost sh*t out of luck for a bootloader unlock.)
If you need to customize only some aspects of the ROM (such as quick settings, power menus) you might want to look into the Xposed framework and its modules. Things like MotoXposed, Advanced Power Menu (APM) and GravityBox should give you what you need. However, if you're on 4.4 already, it's best to wait a while as much of the code has not been ported over to KitKat yet. I had to uninstall everything yesterday as it was giving me random restarts on my phone.
tl;dr: You can't. Check out Xposed. But be patient for fixes.
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thanks for the heads up ^-^
ill take a look at it.. was wondering if they would port boot menu instead just power off.
is motoxposed working for 4.4? ive tryed on 4.2.2 camera update but i don\t think it work.

TronXiix said:
thanks for the heads up ^-^
ill take a look at it.. was wondering if they would port boot menu instead just power off.
is motoxposed working for 4.4? ive tryed on 4.2.2 camera update but i don\t think it work.
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Make sure you have the Xposed framework installed first. And MotoXposed should be working for 4.2.2 but not 4.4. And what do you mean by boot menu?

RagnaParadise said:
Make sure you have the Xposed framework installed first. And MotoXposed should be working for 4.2.2 but not 4.4. And what do you mean by boot menu?
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power menu.. no wonder lol im on 4.4 root
gotta wait i guess
have you root 4.4? i get weird blank boot animation on my first boot and then the rest of the boot animation shows up?

Root with unlocked bootloader/ no custom recovery

Is there a way I can root with 4.4? I have an unlocked bootloader but the SlapMyMoto method fails me everytime at the impactor 2222 step & even when I try to troubleshoot by using the small windows guide method provided by Jcase. I might be wrong entirely and there isn't yet a root for 4.4, if so let me know that way I don't sound too ignorant. :good:

Demorthus said:
Is there a way I can root with 4.4? I have an unlocked bootloader but the SlapMyMoto method fails me everytime at the impactor 2222 step & even when I try to troubleshoot by using the small windows guide method provided by Jcase. I might be wrong entirely and there isn't yet a root for 4.4, if so let me know that way I don't sound too ignorant. :good:
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Flash twrp recovery by hashcode and flash supersu zip and you're all done
Sent on my Moto X

Is there any possibility there's a way I can root it without a custom recovery though? I understand that it is the easiest way to root, but I'd like to try and keep it stock, that's been my main difficulty thus far.

Demorthus said:
Is there any possibility there's a way I can root it without a custom recovery though? I understand that it is the easiest way to root, but I'd like to try and keep it stock, that's been my main difficulty thus far.
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No, you already unlocked your boot loader , so you're already swimming in the swallow end so you may as well swim over to the deep end
Sent on my Moto X

flashallthetime said:
No, you already unlocked your boot loader , so you're already swimming in the swallow end so you may as well swim over to the deep end
Sent on my Moto X
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Alright I'll get right on it then! Thanks x2 . Just as a side question since I've only had my Moto X for about a week and a half, will I still be able to continue to use touchless control and updates for it just as so long as I dont flash a custom rom? I want this puppy as stock as possible

Demorthus said:
Alright I'll get right on it then! Thanks x2 . Just as a side question since I've only had my Moto X for about a week and a half, will I still be able to continue to use touchless control and updates for it just as so long as I dont flash a custom rom? I want this puppy as stock as possible
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As long as you run the stock ROM you'll have all the great features , if you use xposed framework and gravity box you'll have all the features that cyanogenmod has plus all moto's great features too, win win
Sent on my Moto X

Demorthus said:
I want this puppy as stock as possible
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Why did you unlock your bootloader then?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2573212

From what I was following it appeared to be as though it was necessary, but I misinterpreted it. But, it's too late now for any changes, sadly and unfortunately.

get TWRP, xposed framework, with gravitybox and google search api. learn to use tasker and all of its major plugins, you will have a blast with the moto x. the possibilities are endless.

[Q] Just got a new phone!

Bought the unlocked Moto X, and loving it so far.
But there are a few things I want changed: I want easy access to block certain permissions to certain apps, block ads, see how much percent of the battery is left in the top bar along with the icon.
If I understand correctly, there are two ways to achieve those things: Get root access and install apps which require superuser access, or install a custom ROM.
What would you recommend? Is there a custom ROM that can even be installed on the Moto X? How mature is it?
Thanks! Just trying to see what my options are.

I just unlocked the boot loader then installed twrp which will ask if you want to root the first time you boot into it. I then installed xposed and gravity box. It's the best combo I have for now.
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Thanks! Now I see some keywords - will be reading more about all this stuff
So if I understand correctly, you didn't install a custom ROM? What factors went into this decision?

Roms aren't needed because most of us can do customization ourselves with xposed modules. Unlike sense and touchwiz, Moto adds very little bloat so there's no need for any tweaks a rom may promote since the device has never been laggy for me. GravityBox is a very useful app to have. Additionally you can use modules like Xprivacy and MinMinGuard to help with restricting data apps have access to and toning down ads, respectively.

Thanks, guys!
Will follow your advice here - I'll stick with the stock ROM.
Already unlocked the bootloader (super easy).
Now I need to install TWRP, but to do that I need software which is called mfastboot
This thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
gives this link for the mfastboot software
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0dUKGxGylgNTk43eU0xc3VLekE/edit?usp=sharing
But it never says who developed it, and where it actually comes from. Do we just need to trust it?

sksol said:
Thanks, guys!
Will follow your advice here - I'll stick with the stock ROM.
Already unlocked the bootloader (super easy).
Now I need to install TWRP, but to do that I need software which is called mfastboot
This thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
gives this link for the mfastboot software
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0dUKGxGylgNTk43eU0xc3VLekE/edit?usp=sharing
But it never says who developed it, and where it actually comes from. Do we just need to trust it?
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It´s made by Motorola themselves. mfastboot was made to flash Motorola devices since normal flashboot can´t or something like that (can´t remember )

sksol said:
Bought the unlocked Moto X, and loving it so far.
But there are a few things I want changed: I want easy access to block certain permissions to certain apps, block ads, see how much percent of the battery is left in the top bar along with the icon.
If I understand correctly, there are two ways to achieve those things: Get root access and install apps which require superuser access, or install a custom ROM.
What would you recommend? Is there a custom ROM that can even be installed on the Moto X? How mature is it?
Thanks! Just trying to see what my options are.
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Permissions (Only works on 4.3-4.4)- LINK
Ads- LINK
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DO A LOT WITH THIS

gokart2 said:
Permissions (Only works on 4.3-4.4)- LINK
Ads- LINK
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DO A LOT WITH THIS
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Once rooted, AdAway is a really good app. I like how it uses the phones Host file, the same method I use to block ads on my computer.

I went with the xposed way.
Everything works like a charm.
Until I got a message "New system software available!" It asks me to upgrade to 4.4.2.
What does this mean? Do I have to revert all changes I've done so far? I clicked No, maybe later just to be safe. But what is usually done in this scenario?

sksol said:
I went with the xposed way.
Everything works like a charm.
Until I got a message "New system software available!" It asks me to upgrade to 4.4.2.
What does this mean? Do I have to revert all changes I've done so far? I clicked No, maybe later just to be safe. But what is usually done in this scenario?
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It would probably fail if you did take the update since you have made modifications to the Stock ROM. You have to be 100% Stock without any modifications to take the Update.

Confused about my current Moto X's root and write protection situation

I'll admit, I didn't fully understand the root process back when I did this. I don't even remember all the steps I took. I got a locked Verizon (black 16GB) for an upgrade back in March. I always wanted this phone but never had an upgrade available. Well I forgot they had a Dev model out and stupidly got the free one with a new contract renewal.
I am running android 4.4 KK and am currently rooted with Xposed installed. I'm pretty sure the only way I can have write protection disabled is by booting into recovery, correct? Even though I select recovery at the fastboot screen, it just boots like normal. I guess my question is, is there any reason for me to be booting into recovery every time? Is there a way to tell if I have WP disabled on /system and root after a normal boot process? I swear I've had Xposed stop working after a normal boot.
EDIT: I'm seriously considering swapping this out for a new Dev model if they go on sale. I could use the extra storage and can easily just unlock the bootloarder and have root when L comes out for the first gen X.

IEcansuckit said:
I'll admit, I didn't fully understand the root process back when I did this. I don't even remember all the steps I took. I got a locked Verizon (black 16GB) for an upgrade back in March. I always wanted this phone but never had an upgrade available. Well I forgot they had a Dev model out and stupidly got the free one with a new contract renewal.
I am running android 4.4 KK and am currently rooted with Xposed installed. I'm pretty sure the only way I can have write protection disabled is by booting into recovery, correct? Even though I select recovery at the fastboot screen, it just boots like normal. I guess my question is, is there any reason for me to be booting into recovery every time? Is there a way to tell if I have WP disabled on /system and root after a normal boot process? I swear I've had Xposed stop working after a normal boot.
EDIT: I'm seriously considering swapping this out for a new Dev model if they go on sale. I could use the extra storage and can easily just unlock the bootloarder and have root when L comes out for the first gen X.
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You can try installing something as a system app (App Ops for Root comes to mind https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=droidmate.appopsinstaller&hl=en) and see if it works. If it does, than write protection is off. The app on Play store is actually an installer that will put App Ops into your /system folder. If you have Xposed working properly, it might be OK already.
I remember when I rooted my VZW Moto Maker Edition on 4.2.2 (I think) I used SlapMyMoto and MotoWPNoMo (or something weird like that). I ran both and then installed Xposed and the framework failed to install properly (the version numbers in the app were red). I tried a few times and it didn't work. I ran the WP script a second time then Xposed worked fine. I must have missed a step in the WP off procedure.
If you boot normally and Xposed doesn't work, or you can't install to /system then I'd say you don't have WP off when booting normally.

fury683 said:
You can try installing something as a system app (App Ops for Root comes to mind https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=droidmate.appopsinstaller&hl=en) and see if it works. If it does, than write protection is off. The app on Play store is actually an installer that will put App Ops into your /system folder. If you have Xposed working properly, it might be OK already.
I remember when I rooted my VZW Moto Maker Edition on 4.2.2 (I think) I used SlapMyMoto and MotoWPNoMo (or something weird like that). I ran both and then installed Xposed and the framework failed to install properly (the version numbers in the app were red). I tried a few times and it didn't work. I ran the WP script a second time then Xposed worked fine. I must have missed a step in the WP off procedure.
If you boot normally and Xposed doesn't work, or you can't install to /system then I'd say you don't have WP off when booting normally.
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Ok, I installed what you suggested, went into the app and tapped the "Install AppOps Root" button. It asked for root access and then rebooted my phone. So I guess this means that by default on a normal reboot, I have WP disabled and root access? Thanks for help clearing this up! I guess the phone was just acting weird that one time when the Xposed modules wouldn't work.
One last question, is there a reason why I can't get to recovery? Whenever I reboot into Recovery, it just starts up like normal? Is that because the normal recovery has been overwritten by a custom one in the root process?

IEcansuckit said:
Ok, I installed what you suggested, went into the app and tapped the "Install AppOps Root" button. It asked for root access and then rebooted my phone. So I guess this means that by default on a normal reboot, I have WP disabled and root access? Thanks for help clearing this up! I guess the phone was just acting weird that one time when the Xposed modules wouldn't work.
One last question, is there a reason why I can't get to recovery? Whenever I reboot into Recovery, it just starts up like normal? Is that because the normal recovery has been overwritten by a custom one in the root process?
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If your bootloader isn't unlocked I don't think you can change recovery. You may be able to reflash the stock recovery from fastboot/mfastboot for your proper version, but don't quote me on that.
Someone with more experience can chime in. How are you rebooting to recovery? With an app/button, or via fastboot?

fury683 said:
If your bootloader isn't unlocked I don't think you can change recovery. You may be able to reflash the stock recovery from fastboot/mfastboot for your proper version, but don't quote me on that.
Someone with more experience can chime in. How are you rebooting to recovery? With an app/button, or via fastboot?
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Correct. No unlock - no custom recovery.
It also depends on which method you used to achieve wp-off. Is rather not get into the finer details because it's really not important...

Are you using VOL+ to select recovery in the bootloader?
Edit: yes, when you rooted your phone, the stock recovery was overwritten to give you Android with write protection off. Looks like normal Android, but you have write access to system.