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Hello!
I today recieved my fresh sgs and was playing around with it..i am really enjoying the contrast of its amazing screen..but then i put it right next to my slcd desire and what i realised hit me like a shovel..
The resolution on SGS is MUCH..and i mean much much lower than on the desire..both have 480x800 pixel res , and yea i know sgs has 0.3 inches larger screen,but the difference shouldnt be anywhere near that...
Is my phone faulty somehow?
The resolution is the same on those to phones, but the screen on SGS is larger so naturally the pixels will be larger. Also you are comparing SLCD to SAMOLED and they are very different technically, and as you mention this screen has crazy contrast and that will also make it easier to see individual pixels.
chris2busy said:
Hello!
I today recieved my fresh sgs and was playing around with it..i am really enjoying the contrast of its amazing screen..but then i put it right next to my slcd desire and what i realised hit me like a shovel..
The resolution on SGS is MUCH..and i mean much much lower than on the desire..both have 480x800 pixel res , and yea i know sgs has 0.3 inches larger screen,but the difference shouldnt be anywhere near that...
Is my phone faulty somehow?
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i have both also and i was just checking the 2 with full brightness and after pressing app drawer to compare (as i hav some same apps on both) i could see the edges of the apps on the sgs were kind of rigid and on the desire they were straight
dont know if that helps you
regards
chris2busy said:
Hello!
I today recieved my fresh sgs and was playing around with it..i am really enjoying the contrast of its amazing screen..but then i put it right next to my slcd desire and what i realised hit me like a shovel..
The resolution on SGS is MUCH..and i mean much much lower than on the desire..both have 480x800 pixel res , and yea i know sgs has 0.3 inches larger screen,but the difference shouldnt be anywhere near that...
Is my phone faulty somehow?
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Read this post http://goo.gl/VlJxv . I kinda should have read more about the SGS before buying it. Now I am kinda disappointed with this and other things
Oh then i was right....because i kow for a fact that n1/desires with amoled do not have 480x800 effective resolution....
well this blows....
yeah ... and you dont see this at the shop while playing with the phone. No chance you notice this. I mean I WOULD never even think that this will look like crap . I mean SUPER AMOLED and how good it is you hear from everywhere ... And then the screen with its burn ins and ****ty resolution is one of the worst...
Btw I installed a cute small bold font comfortaabold from a thread here (Search for flipfonts) and it helps with the readability a little but for pics dunno, there I dont have with the res a problem.
I think im gonna give it a few more days more for a fair trial and if im still unhappy i will have to let it go :/
chris2busy said:
I think im gonna give it a few more days more for a fair trial and if im still unhappy i will have to let it go :/
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If you can, LET IT GO! It wont get better,only worse, if you can see now the differences, you will later on see the burn in too. Search a thread about this here too.
PAGOT said:
If you can, LET IT GO! It wont get better,only worse, if you can see now the differences, you will later on see the burn in too. Search a thread about this here too.
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thanks for the help..should have read more extensively before i buy...and at the store you really couldnt tell..neither it wrote anywhere it was pentile matrix..already given up for delivery..meh, lost 80 good euro..could be worse i guess.
Hi
I am a happy Galaxy S I9000 owner. And I would like to purchase my next cell phone model. I am looking to Galaxy Note. Would you kindly post your impressions and any pros and cons.
Thanks
Cheers, Darius
Pros - too much to write about (don't have enough time now)
Cons - There's no return to other Smartphones. It's just too addictive .
look out for pixel problems
DMax99 said:
look out for pixel problems
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Thanks. What application do you suggest for that?
buk_grudziadz said:
Pros - too much to write about (don't have enough time now)
Cons - There's no return to other Smartphones. It's just too addictive .
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Thanks for prompt reply
Pros:
- Huge, beautiful, detailed screen
- S-Pen (I use it pretty frequently for taking notes, screenshots etc.)
- Great speed
- ICS coming
- Great camera
- Did I mention the lovely screen?
Cons:
- Notification LED missing (I got used to it on Desire)
- For some the screen might just be too big, so try it out before you buy it.
- You really won't like smaller screens after a few days
Oh and the phone has some difficulties with the black color in films. As I read, it is because the screen has 24-bit color depth, which is uncommon yet amongst programs (to an expert: please correct me if I'm wrong!)
Feel free to ask, if you have further questions!
Hello Darius, I've owned both the SGS1 & 2, and now the Note. I had some misgivings about the Note too, especially since the demo units at the local Samsung shops felt laggy to me. But I did much research and finally got the phone, and it's one of the best decisions I ever made.
Pros:
Huge size makes browsing, checking email and ebook reading a breeze. It's large enough for me to decide to sell off my rooted NookColor as this is much more flexible, portable and has much better features. I find it easier to hold the phone and take photos because of the size, as compared to the SGS2 which was too thin for me to hold comfortably.
Doesn't matter what conflicting information there are out there about pentile display, the screen is beautiful and the colours lovely, not over-saturated like SGS2. Banding is also much better than what the SGS2 suffered from.
Battery life and camera seem comparable to SGS2, if not better. No issues with dead pixels, pink spots, green whatever...I did notice that the display is a tad uneven with a flat grey wallpaper/background, but that was true of my SGS2 as well. In real life I do not use an even toned grey wallpaper, so that doesn't bother me at all. And it's pointless to get all stressed out over little things like that as my life is exciting enough.
The s-pen makes taking notes on the fly so much easier and cooler than digging around for a pen to write on your palm! I like being able to take screen captures too. Hopefully my artistic career will take off because of this phone. Nah...just kidding!
Cons:
Huge size means the self-conscious people may feel somewhat clownish with this. You'll have to put up with a few--not that many--stares, rubber necks and looks of horror from the unenlightened. Those who had owned Palms or are suffering from long sightedness will doubtless praise you for your gorgeous new gadget. Those who wear tight jeans may not be so crazy about it.
It comes with bloatware that slow down the phone (at least for speed freaks like me) and take up space. Thus you may need to root--please read extensively before doing so--in order to freeze or delete the bloatware. This is subjective as some people don't find the bloatware an issue, but I've always rooted my phones and my hands get itchy when I don't. Perhaps once the official ICS comes out, I will no longer need to root as I understand that you can easily delete unwanted apps.
Some apps are not meant for phones this size and may not take up the entire screen, or will look a little soft. So far these tend to be games. It's not a deal breaker for me because I don't play many games and can easily look for alternative games.
And the greatest problem, I feel, is that I may never settle for a smaller phone in the future!
holgalee said:
Hello Darius, I've owned both the SGS1 & 2, and now the Note. I had some misgivings about the Note too, especially since the demo units at the local Samsung shops felt laggy to me.
Pros:
Huge size makes browsing, checking email and ebook reading a breeze. It's large enough for me to decide to sell off my rooted NookColor as this is much more flexible, portable and has much better features.
Doesn't matter what conflicting information there are out there about pentile display, the screen is beautiful and the colours lovely, not over-saturated like SGS2. Banding is also much better than what the SGS2 suffered from.
Cons:
Huge size means the self-conscious people may feel somewhat clownish with this.
It comes with bloatware that slow down the phone (at least for speed freaks like me) and take up space. Thus you may need to root--please read extensively before doing so--in order to freeze or delete the bloatware.
Doubt if you will ever settle for a smaller phone in the future!
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Bcroc said:
Pros:
- Huge, beautiful, detailed screen
- S-Pen (I use it pretty frequently for taking notes, screenshots etc.)
- Great speed
- ICS coming
- Great camera
- Did I mention the lovely screen?
Cons:
- Notification LED missing (I got used to it on Desire)
- For some the screen might just be too big, so try it out before you buy it.
- You really won't like smaller screens after a few days
Oh and the phone has some difficulties with the black color in films. As I read, it is because the screen has 24-bit color depth, which is uncommon yet amongst programs (to an expert: please correct me if I'm wrong!)
Feel free to ask, if you have further questions!
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Thank you very much for sharing
You're most welcome. Uh...I added a bit more info after you read and thanked me.
My pros and cons are at my blog, AndroidNZ.net
So far I've written about 8,000 words or something in my review, and the last part is nearly done and currently coming in at around 4,600 words.
If you really want to know the pros and cons in detail that is.
Dogue2000 said:
Thanks. What application do you suggest for that?
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I mean...pray that you won't get one with Dead Pixels like the one that I got recently
I heard there are some screen quality issues with the Note from this forum but didn't think I would be unlucky enough to get one. But guess what....
But hey...I'm sure you will be luckier than me....and apart from that....it's a GREAT device
Well the only issues you would face are with the screen and nothing else. If you are buying at some store do sure to take "dead pixel checker" or "screen test" software with you (in ur older phone). You can transfer em to the new phone via bluetooth and test the screen.
Otherwise U can go to the service menu and check the RGB screens for any dead pixel. Best way to check for dead pixel is to lower the brightness to 0% and take the phone in a dark environment if possible and look from a distance of about 5 inches. Otherwise its really hard to make out dead pixels in bright lights, but if they are there and you are watching a movie at night in the bed, u wont be too happy to find em. As others have said the screen is uneven on gray color. Do check out the grey color and see if there are any smudges and try to see them on other normal screens. If they are not there then all good.
Regarding dead pixels till now, only white stuck pixels have been reported (me a victim as well). And stuck pixels (particularly in this phone) are visible only on grey color. If you have any more doubts dont hesitate to ask, would be glad to help !!!
I have had both. The biggest decision is the screen. Its fantastic to look at and work on but its massive to deal with. I'm sometimes a little scared I may drop the device and one handed is nearly impossible - which is generally not a big deal except for taking pictures sometimes. Jury is still out.
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Thank you everybody for sharing. I have already exchanged my SGS to Note. Very happy. Seems to be no dead pixels.
buk_grudziadz said:
Pros - too much to write about (don't have enough time now)
Cons - There's no return to other Smartphones. It's just too addictive .
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most super amoled srceen does not have dead or stuck pixels, is this because of the density of the screen using the 1280-720 screen, also to hijack the thread, what will ppl consider between the note or galaxy nexus, why i'm asking, i will be getting either one next week, so ppls opinion would be great.
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Hello,
As i am today a not very-pleased s3 owner, i decided that i will give Sony a try for the first time. After looking much at especially the V and the Z, i`ve decided that the Z will be the phone i will enough pleased with.
Anyway, i habe been reeding alot about this phone the last days, and i keep reading that the screen is not "good" enough, and that is something that concerns me.
So i am asking YOU GUYS that are a lucky owner of the Xperia Z; How does the screen feel like? Is it relly THAT bad as people is talking about? I really want this phone. I love sonys interface and water+dust proof is a must for me these days.
I hope someone can give me a good answer.
Appreciated !
Honestly go out and check it out for yourself.
Everyone will and can have their own opinion, but in the end it is your choice.
I for one like it
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DarkKrypt said:
Honestly go out and check it out for yourself.
Everyone will and can have their own opinion, but in the end it is your choice.
I for one like it
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I would love to check it out, but here in Norway we dont get it before 6-10Mars. I went to the store today to check out the display on the Xperia V, and i gotta say i liked it alot more than my Amoled S3.
AW: So is the screen THAT bad?
Screen is just fine. Lots of exageration.
The vieweing angles are sub-premium, this is true, but perfectly ok. First its only the colours which wash out a bit, its not like you wouldnt see anything anymore plus, to be honest, how often and for jow long do you look at your phone flat and sideways...?
I like the screen a lot. Nice colours to look at, insane resolution and pixel density , everything is so damn crisp and clear. I mean hello, its a flaghship after all, they dont dare to put utter bull**** in it. As I said, lots of exaggeration.
TFT with high resolution. Colors are bad.
Regards
Yesterday I tested 3 Xperia Z with bright pixel. But finally got one that has none.
avetny said:
TFT with high resolution. Colors are bad.
Regards
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Depends on your definition of good colors.
When looking at photos vs one x without BE turned on colors are pretty close to the real thing including vibrancy and saturation. Now if you are the kind of person that likes unhealthy yellow skin tones, better than real life colors than yeah colors are no good. When people say it looks washed out they actually mean it is not punchy the truth is that when you look at the real world vs s3 and one x the real world seems to be washed out
Stop this BS already... screen is very good.
The only "problem" with it is colour saturation in UI. When BE2 kicks in, and you're on 60%+ brightness, colours and brightness are amazing. And since BE2 doesn't change the screen's physical properties - it means that the screen itself is perfectly fine. The only thing you can be unhappy with is UI's default saturation values, which are quite low, probably to make the difference between media and UI very noticable.
Also, it's true - "washed out" colours are actually a lot closer to natural colours. If you want very saturated colours all the time - you might not be satisfied. If you want completely oversaturated colours - go for AMOLED, they're amazing in producing rich, highly saturated colours.
For me, coming straight from an S3 to this, it really does look washed out, no mater how you look at it.
However, I think that this is because the S3 had very over saturated colours. If you do decide to go for the XZ, you'll be disappointed at first, but it feels much more premium and you'll start to realise that the S3 seemed like it was in Shop Display Mode all the time!
Ultimately, the choice is yours, but don't be downhearted if you go for it and you're initially unhappy with the screen.
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Which is basically what everyone else has already said here.
Maybe Sony should have added a samsung mode where it sets the saturation up to 120%, the contrast to .800 and maximum brightness to 50% so you can't see anything when outdoors.
I think you'll be happy with the screen if you upgraded from other xperia family phones. But if you will compare it side by side with other 1080 LCD phones like htc butterfly, hell even with HTC One X which has 720P and a year older, Z can't match overall display quality. Trust your eyes. To see is to believe.
HypnOtizer12 said:
Hello,
As i am today a not very-pleased s3 owner, i decided that i will give Sony a try for the first time. After looking much at especially the V and the Z, i`ve decided that the Z will be the phone i will enough pleased with.
Anyway, i habe been reeding alot about this phone the last days, and i keep reading that the screen is not "good" enough, and that is something that concerns me.
So i am asking YOU GUYS that are a lucky owner of the Xperia Z; How does the screen feel like? Is it relly THAT bad as people is talking about? I really want this phone. I love sonys interface and water+dust proof is a must for me these days.
I hope someone can give me a good answer.
Appreciated !
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Got this one from Esato, Xperia Z Screen test
Screen test of xperia z https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH_3Zz045B0 Nice colours and viewing angles
The black is the most black lcd could reach
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Here is a few videos that should help you decide for yourself:
http://youtu.be/DoNQcM8T4c8
http://youtu.be/JH_3Zz045B0
http://youtu.be/P32rdsmgNqU
Got this yesterday and the screen is better than One x and nexus 4 except viewing angles.
The phone is a little laggier than Nexus 4 but faster.
Overall im very impressed.
??????? You ok bro?
Akiainavas said:
Stop this BS already... screen is very good.
Also, it's true - "washed out" colours are actually a lot closer to natural colours. If you want very saturated colours all the time - you might not be satisfied. If you want completely oversaturated colours - go for AMOLED, they're amazing in producing rich, highly saturated colours.
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All Sony screens are very good from my past experience, people are just used to over saturated colors that other companies do to their phones. Also, you eyes will strain much less when you look at Sony screens for extended period of times.
Also, I don't understand what's with the ruckus of angle viewing, seriously, how many of you out there actively view the screen from a angle? its just retarded to compare that, it's not even a point.
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I personally really like the screen. I hated the screen on the s3 and thought the colours looked unnatural and oversaturated. With the XZ, while it may be 'washed out' to some, I actually find the colours, contrast, etc. quite nice to look at and natural. The s3 and the like hurt my eyes. Plus viewing angles aren't half as bad as I expected them to be given all the hysteria regarding them prior to release.
I posted this in the other thread "clearing up the....."
"I have now spent 48 hours with my XZ in the UK. I really like the display. It is sharp, vibrant and realistic in terms of colour and saturation. I could not get on with the amoled display of the HTC desire and the samsung galaxy. Too unrealistic imho. The bravia engine takes it to another level for movies and pictures: It will impress your friends!
I was hesitating with the iminent release of the HTC one. I have absolutley no regrets. It is a beautiful phone and a beautiful display."
well if the only downside is "bad view angles" and "low sturation" its great display because
1. i look my fone from front not side
2. i dont like too saturated colours (red must be red not burning red example)
3. resolution n ppi is high enough to make clear and nice pic
here is some screen comparisons
vs iphone 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duWECOuUhb8#t=632s
vs SG3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHmvUeMWAu8#t=644s
its in german so you might wanna turn translation on
and here is some first impressions & talk about the screen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P32rdsmgNqU
Overall it looks like a pretty good screen, if you dont care about viewing angles that much you will like it
This started as a simple method to help or interest other's. But some how it turn into a disaster by the majority of the community/admins .. I'm explaining on how to do this ONE LAST TIME for the guy( jmwils3) I was going to reply to before my thread was closed down and to all the few people who were really interested in this but couldn't receive the info since I was silenced by Tin Foil Hat People/Fanboys .. For anyone else still interested in my insightful info or want to know more of my development in linux base operating systems, Please feel free to PRIVATE MESSAGE ME. Now on to the 2k Resolution/577 DPI Method for the M9>>
Requirements
-You must be rooted
-You must pick a different launcher than stock. (For me Nova doesn't work well. I use the Dodol Launcher and then resize Icons and widgets depending on preference)
-(AND REMEMBER RESIZE ONLY AFTER YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED YOUR CUSTOM RESOLUTION)
Method 1
Here I will only explain the most basic method/easiest way to do it..
-Download the app called "Resolution Changer Pro" <<DISCLAIMER>> I do not condone or represent this app in anyway, NOR do I even Know that developers of this app. In fact I don't even give two flying [email protected]#KS if you use another similar app to achieve the same goal( I just found that one works with my M9) <<Plus I felt I just had to say this disclaimer for the nimrods that will say"He's getting paid for advertising dissssssss!!" LMAO
-Next change the height to 2560 and the width to 1440 and lastly dpi to 577 and then hit Enable
-At this point everything going to get weird . But don't worry it's cool Next I need you to go in the same app and touch the "Fix navigation bars" )This is because us HTC one guys have the on screen buttons(Other phone users shouldn't do this)
- After that is will fast reboot and you're all done!. Just resize Like I said from your launcher and you will be straight.
Other Methods
There are other methods done by hard code and build prompts. But I will wait till people start asking me for a more stable/clean method without all the [email protected]#HING (But the method above should suffice)
OH! AND ONE MORE THING FOR "CONFIRMATION"
-Go to the youtube app and you now have the 1440p(2k) viewing option. And watch the BIG DIfference in detail! ( I choose to watch MKBHD videos since hes one of the few that upload videos in 2k to 4k on youtube)
You can also go to antutu benchmark app for the final results as well as I did in my OP.
http://i.imgur.com/oNObxMf.gifv
lol
You do realize that you aren't changing the resolution of the screen. That's NOT POSSIBLE.
What you're actually changing is the DPI. Basically you're tricking the software into thinking your screen is higher resolution. You're NOT changing the actual resolution of the screen. Take a microscope and examine the screen. There's no difference.
You get the 1440p option in youtube because the software THINKS you have a 1440p screen. You don't. It's like watching 4k movies on a 480p TV. It's possible, yes, but stupid.
@SynDevOut
aooga said:
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lol
You do realize that you aren't changing the resolution of the screen. That's NOT POSSIBLE.
What you're actually changing is the DPI. Basically you're tricking the software into thinking your screen is higher resolution. You're NOT changing the actual resolution of the screen. Take a microscope and examine the screen. There's no difference.
You get the 1440p option in youtube because the software THINKS you have a 1440p screen. You don't. It's like watching 4k movies on a 480p TV. It's possible, yes, but stupid.
@SynDevOut
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And I do assume you have a microscope huh? LOL
Tin Foil Hat People come in Numbers..
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And I do assume you have a microscope huh? LOL
Tin Foil Hat People come in Numbers..
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So explain to me why HTC didn't just put the worst resolution screen in the phone and just change it in the software? Why wouldn't every company do that to save money? Because it's not possible.
There are a set number of pixels on a screen. You cannot change that.
And you don't need a microscope. Just a macro lens and a good camera.
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So explain to me why HTC didn't just put the worst resolution screen in the phone and just change it in the software? Why wouldn't every company do that to save money? Because it's not possible.
There are a set number of pixels on a screen. You cannot change that.
And you don't need a microscope. Just a macro lens and a good camera.
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Same reason they underclock the CPU before launch(They were "Cautious"). And mind you, I never said we were changing the "PPI" in the OP. I said we were changing resolution and "DPI". BIG DIFFERENCE.... What method we are practicing here is basically changing the dimensions of the image of a 1080p display to achieve a 2k almost or the same equivalent in quality . It's true we known from mistakes in the past by doing this to dvd and upscaling them to HD can cause distort images sometimes. This s NOT the case with a "5 inch display" compared to a 42' inch Television. Hence why I also said In my OP that it will get weird after the resolution is set. But the launcher correct this issue easily simply as I stated before it's only 5 itchs we're dealing with. Maybe you should try it first before shunning it. The video playback is quite good.
Got a headache reading your posts. Thanks.
Why stop at 2k, why turn your 2k display into a 4k? Heck why not 8k?
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Got a headache reading your posts. Thanks.
Why stop at 2k, why turn your 2k display into a 4k? Heck why not 8k?
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LOL, Don't mention it .. And I suppose it would depend on hardware. And there isn't an 8k option on the youtube app that I know of as of yet. Not even a 4k option. But like I said of what "I Know" .. Maybe you know something new that I don't
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LOL, Don't mention it .. And I suppose it would depend on hardware. And there isn't an 8k option on the youtube app that I know of as of yet. Not even a 4k option. But like I said of what "I Know" .. Maybe you know something new that I don't
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Hey, changing the native resolution of the screen is physically IMPOSSIBLE. It is built into the hardware. The screen itself supports up to 1920x1080 resolution. Anything you think you're changing it to is not real. You're just making things smaller on the screen to give it a 2k effect.
That would be like buying a 1080p television and saying you can change it to 2k or 4k. Why wouldn't everyone do that then?
You should go read about the differences between hardware and software.
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Hey, changing the native resolution of the screen is physically IMPOSSIBLE. It is built into the hardware. The screen itself supports up to 1920x1080 resolution. Anything you think you're changing it to is not real. You're just making things smaller on the screen to give it a 2k effect.
That would be like buying a 1080p television and saying you can change it to 2k or 4k. Why wouldn't everyone do that then?
You should go read about the differences between hardware and software.
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AGAIN WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE "PPI"!!!!! .. Seriously if people keep addressing the SAME CONCERN insanely over and over AFTER I have explain it countless times in this thread and others, then I will just lock this one up. Since my goal of getting this useful information is already given out to the community as per attended. You and everyone concern in this issue you feel you're having; Should really read INTENSELY in the difference between "PPI" & "DPI" . And then read more on "Changing the dimensions of an image"
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AGAIN WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE "PPI"!!!!! .. Seriously if people keep addressing the SAME CONCERN insanely over and over AFTER I have explain it countless times in this thread and others, then I will just lock this one up. Since my goal of getting this useful information is already given out to the community as per attended. You and everyone concern in this issue you feel you're having; Should really read INTENSELY in the difference between "PPI" & "DPI" . And then read more on "Changing the dimensions of an image"
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So change your wording then. People who don't know better keep thinking that you're making the phone have a actual 2K display like the S6/M9+.
You're changing the DPI which can be done with a simple build.prop edit and has NOTHING to do with resolution.
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So change your wording then. People who don't know better keep thinking that you're making the phone have a actual 2K display like the S6/M9+.
You're changing the DPI which can be done with a simple build.prop edit and has NOTHING to do with resolution.
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This.
aooga said:
So change your wording then. People who don't know better keep thinking that you're making the phone have a actual 2K display like the S6/M9+.
You're changing the DPI which can be done with a simple build.prop edit and has NOTHING to do with resolution.
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This.
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Really??!!, So this is your answers to both of your misunderstandings. Rather than making people understand what we are doing here....... You say these things, An rather because you do "NOT KNOW" what is going on this thread exactly. I said we're changing the "DPI" from this OP, "AND WE ARE". And you say that we are changing a DPI that can be simply done by build prompts, OMG You must have of miss my "Other Methods" options in my OP because you ALL obviously love to SKIP READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....... And this resolution talk; I hope you have enough knowledge. Because I will embarrass both of you here and now>>
Please don't make me come out of character. Because I will prove in FACTS of the IDIOTS you all are who MISUNDERSTAND and then COMPLAIN..
SynDevOut said:
Really??!!, So this is your answers to both of your misunderstandings. Rather than making people understand what we are doing here....... You say these things, An rather because you do "NOT KNOW" what is going on this thread exactly. I said we're changing the "DPI" from this OP, "AND WE ARE". And you say that we are changing a DPI that can be simply done by build prompts, OMG You must have of miss my "Other Methods" options in my OP because you ALL obviously love to SKIP READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....... And this resolution talk; I hope you have enough knowledge. Because I will embarrass both of you here and now>>
Please don't make me come out of character. Because I will prove in FACTS of the IDIOTS you all are who MISUNDERSTAND and then COMPLAIN..
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You need to take a chill pill or something.
Your wording is confusing. I believe their may be a language barrier issue... None of us have been rude, we suggested you change your wording and you're blowing it way out or proportion.
SynDevOut said:
Really??!!, So this is your answers to both of your misunderstandings. Rather than making people understand what we are doing here....... You say these things, An rather because you do "NOT KNOW" what is going on this thread exactly. I said we're changing the "DPI" from this OP, "AND WE ARE". And you say that we are changing a DPI that can be simply done by build prompts, OMG You must have of miss my "Other Methods" options in my OP because you ALL obviously love to SKIP READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....... And this resolution talk; I hope you have enough knowledge. Because I will embarrass both of you here and now>>
Please don't make me come out of character. Because I will prove in FACTS of the IDIOTS you all are who MISUNDERSTAND and then COMPLAIN..
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No one is being rude. Your title (and your other post) say that you can change the resolution of the phone. All I'm saying is that that's physically impossible. I'm not attacking you at all. You probably meant change the DPI only.
Also, you kept saying that the screen looks a lot better and videos look more clear. It would be the same as watching 4k movies on a 1080p TV.
If you want to provide facts, go for it. That's the point of this forum. If you know something, you're free to share it.
So you are increasing the resolution but not the PPI here!
How is that even possible?
Changing your DPI will not increase the resolution of your screen.
LOL
aooga said:
No one is being rude. Your title (and your other post) say that you can change the resolution of the phone. All I'm saying is that that's physically impossible. I'm not attacking you at all. You probably meant change the DPI only.
Also, you kept saying that the screen looks a lot better and videos look more clear. It would be the same as watching 4k movies on a 1080p TV.
If you want to provide facts, go for it. That's the point of this forum. If you know something, you're free to share it.
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My apologies, I simply took it the wrong way. And yes you can change the resolution. What you mean to say is we can not change the "Native Resolution" which I never said we were doing to begin with. Again "BIG DIFFERENCE"
And yes it looks better due to the fact of "Chroma Subsampling"
xxquicksh0txx said:
You need to take a chill pill or something.
Your wording is confusing. I believe their may be a language barrier issue... None of us have been rude, we suggested you change your wording and you're blowing it way out or proportion.
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Yes as you can see from my reply above I apologize for the misunderstanding..
mm79k said:
So you are increasing the resolution but not the PPI here!
How is that even possible?
Changing your DPI will not increase the resolution of your screen.
LOL
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So you don't read all the "TWO" pages in this thread. And you have the nerve to be griping about an compliant/issue .. From what I'm told; XDA is suppose to almost embody of ALL the people that is going to "SEARCH" and "FIND" the "SOLUTION" to their "PROBLEM" / "CONCERN"
Just so you know the problem is starting due to the misleading title of your thread. You are in fact not increasing the screens resolution. You are downsampling in order to trick the GPU into displaying a higher resolution but the quality is simply not there.
When a display has native support for resolutions up to 1080x1920, you can use downsampling to send out a signal which tells your display to output a resolution of 1440x2560. HOWEVER, a typical display with a maximum resolution of 1080p has around 2 million pixels, while a 1440p/2k display has around 3.5 million.
Of course, downsampling does NOT increase the amount of pixels being displayed, that of course is physically IMPOSSIBLE. Your display CANNOT go beyond native display physical limitations determined by the screens ppi. All your method does is simply trick gpu to push fake 1440p resolution to your 1080p display. This cause compression to fit inside the screen. The effect it has is akin to zooming out on a lower resolution picture.
Also as other users posted, and is a 100% correct, you can change dpi through build.prop edit without all this other nonsense.
What are the default for the. M9? Did this and want to go back. It causes some issues with the camera.
I didn't expect 1000€ device still has this issue.
If you want to test it on your note 9 download this image: https://i.imgur.com/DUEKJzH.jpg
It is dark solid grey background.
In dark room open this image and set brightness to low. You should see uniform gray color.
I think at least 90% devices has this problem.
Here is what I see:
https://imgur.com/a/efvMZXE
https://imgur.com/a/uJPa8jE
Feel free to enlighten me but unless you spend all your time looking at a dark solid grey background, I don't see why this is an issue. I have tested mine with a similar image and to my eyes, the screen is perfect.
Your link to the image is dead btw.
willhemmens said:
Feel free to enlighten me but unless you spend all your time looking at a dark solid grey background, I don't see why this is an issue. I have tested mine with a similar image and to my eyes, the screen is perfect.
Your link to the image is dead btw.
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Many apps has dark gray background. First I didn't test anything I just noticed it in youtube app - dark mode. Its quite disappointing.
I tried all three links on another pc and they are working.
KastrO_on said:
Many apps has dark gray background. First I didn't test anything I just noticed it in youtube app - dark mode. Its quite disappointing.
I tried all three links on another pc and they are working.
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While they do have a dark grey background, there is usually something in front of the background to draw your eye to instead.
Thanks for letting me know about the links, it's amazing how editing your post, fixing the links and saving the post makes the links work. I did check the links and all I see is noise.
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While they do have a dark grey background, there is usually something in front of the background to draw your eye to instead.
Thanks for letting me know about the links, it's amazing how editing your post, fixing the links and saving the post makes the links work. I did check the links and all I see is noise.
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Not every time background is covered by content. I can clearly see difference on youtube app, top part of display is slightly lighter and greenish and bottom is darker and reddish.
I did nothing to the links. I just tried to add pictures (insert image) but it didn't work.
seems my note 9 does not have the issue u reported
see the pic u posted as screenshot from my note 9
No issue here.
KastrO_on said:
I think at least 90% devices has this problem.
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I think you think wrong. From which orifice did you pluck that 90% figure from?
HellDiverUK said:
I think you think wrong. From which orifice did you pluck that 90% figure from?
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Thats how mass production works. Or do you think im the only one who got exclusive defective device?
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Thats how mass production works. Or do you think im the only one who got exclusive defective device?
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Actually, mass production usually aims for less than 1% failure rate, so I'm pretty confident you got one of those >1%.
Considering YOU are the only one complaining, then yes, you're probably one unlucky person.
If you were talking about a Google Pixel 2/3, then yes, you're likely to have a **** screen, because that's how they are. Samsung screens aren't like that at all - the Note 9 has one of, if not THE best screen available on any phone.
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Actually, mass production usually aims for less than 1% failure rate, so I'm pretty confident you got one of those >1%.
Considering YOU are the only one complaining, then yes, you're probably one unlucky person.
If you were talking about a Google Pixel 2/3, then yes, you're likely to have a **** screen, because that's how they are. Samsung screens aren't like that at all - the Note 9 has one of, if not THE best screen available on any phone.
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Thats why Im disappointed. Didnt expect this from Samsung.
Im going to try another piece so we will see.
KastrO_on said:
I didn't expect 1000€ device still has this issue.
If you want to test it on your note 9 download this image: https://i.imgur.com/DUEKJzH.jpg
It is dark solid grey background.
In dark room open this image and set brightness to low. You should see uniform gray color.
I think at least 90% devices has this problem.
Here is what I see:
https://imgur.com/a/efvMZXE
https://imgur.com/a/uJPa8jE
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I am pretty sure they will agree to change it + the chances to draw again a problematic display are really slim. Sadly some do have such a problem and actually I saw a lot worse on the xda forums. Return it for exchange is my advice.
Look in my thread history. I made threads about Samsung display uniformity issues since Note3!
It got better over the years, but still I estimate only 10-30% of all Amoled screens are perfect.
Samsung makes things right in terms of quality management, because most customers do not notice this flaw, but if you are sensible to it, it's hard to ignore!
in my threads I also explained the reason for this, which is how amoled screens are produced. they are cut out of wafers after lithography. only devices cut out of the center of the wafer have almost uniform screens. the more from a side your screen has been cut out, the worse the screen quality will be.
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TML1504 said:
Look in my thread history. I made threads about Samsung display uniformity issues since Note3!
It got better over the years, but still I estimate only 10-30% of all Amoled screens are perfect.
Samsung makes things right in terms of quality management, because most customers do not notice this flaw, but if you are sensible to it, it's hard to ignore!
in my threads I also explained the reason for this, which is how amoled screens are produced. they are cut out of wafers after lithography. only devices cut out of the center of the wafer have almost uniform screens. the more from a side your screen has been cut out, the worse the screen quality will be.
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I think it has improved a lot since a couple of years. Before that, I used to swap my Samsung phones once or twice to get a decent one.
But the last 4 or 5 phones I bought, all with Samsung screens, were all perfect.
That includes Pixel 2 (not XL), Note 9, S8+, P20 Pro, etc....
Either I got extremely lucky to get as many perfect screens in a row, or they really improved things. Now I think it will happen to me again to have a bad one, but I'm not as nervous anymore. It's not a lottery anymore.
My Note 9 in particular is extremely impressive with a perfect screen. Perfect whites, no uniformity problem with any shades of grey at any brightness. Pure oled bliss.
BUT, I've had so many problems before that I'll ALWAYS be a little nervous before unboxing an oled screen smartphone. I've been burned too many times with crappy panels.
Let me tell you I was extremely nervous the day I bought my LG Oled 4K TV 55"..... Thousands of dollars thrown at an Oled panel lottery.... I was lucky this time again
Times are changing.
Okay so I got another note 9 and has this issue too but in different spot. Also checked one more piece in samsung store...same.
So I think almost everyone has this uneven screen but maybe some of you have less sensitive eyes or just don't want to see this problem
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Okay so I got another note 9 and has this issue too but in different spot. Also checked one more piece in samsung store...same.
So I think almost everyone has this uneven screen but maybe some of you have less sensitive eyes or just don't want to see this problem
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So my question is, does this affect your use of the device? Is it causing wear and tear on you vision? Or is it just an OCD/OCPD effect?
To me personally, stuff like this is pointless to have an issue with even on a phone that costs $1000. Unless it's to the point where you can't use the device because you see the defect on everything.
To another comment I saw that included the word "Perfect," NOTHING is perfect, and there will never be such a thing that could be perfect because of our human definition of what perfection is. It's good to strive for Better, but it's pointless to strive for Perfection.
Btw, I did download the Pic and tested it on my Note 9 and my wife's Note 8, and the uniformity is affected on both devices. I also looked at the image on my 4K TVs and my LCD monitors and the effect is there. Are you sure the image itself is uniform?
Jammol said:
So my question is, does this affect your use of the device? Is it causing wear and tear on you vision? Or is it just an OCD/OCPD effect?
To me personally, stuff like this is pointless to have an issue with even on a phone that costs $1000. Unless it's to the point where you can't use the device because you see the defect on everything.
To another comment I saw that included the word "Perfect," NOTHING is perfect, and there will never be such a thing that could be perfect because of our human definition of what perfection is. It's good to strive for Better, but it's pointless to strive for Perfection.
Btw, I did download the Pic and tested it on my Note 9 and my wife's Note 8, and the uniformity is affected on both devices. I also looked at the image on my 4K TVs and my LCD monitors and the effect is there. Are you sure the image itself is uniform?
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Perfect screens exist. I have some. I have perfect eyesight. I was a combat helicopter pilot in the french army. I know what to look for. If it is there I see it. If it is not, I don't. It's a fact. It's science. Not some voodoo magic wishful thinking.
I've had terrible screens. I've had some perfect. Nowadays I get more good ones than bad.
Bad ones still exist, but it my opinion that they are less and less common.
Against clear backgrounds you won't see much apart from a slight shift in color temperature.
Against dark grey at indoor brightness you can have incredible differences between some parts of the screen.
If you use a dark theme (not black), you will see it all the time.
Does it prevents you from using the phone ? No of course not.
Does it suck on a 1000 dollars phone ? Yes.
Some people are insensitive to that kind of thing. Good for them.
It's not an OCD. It's the will to have a good looking screen.
I like good looking women. I don't think it's an OCD. I know what I want, that's all. And I want the best. Nothing less.
If you want to settle with average, good for you.
Latoc said:
Perfect screens exist. I have some. I have perfect eyesight. I was a combat helicopter pilot in the french army. I know what to look for. If it is there I see it. If it is not, I don't. It's a fact. It's science. Not some voodoo magic wishful thinking.
I've had terrible screens. I've had some perfect. Nowadays I get more good ones than bad.
Bad ones still exist, but it my opinion that they are less and less common.
Against clear backgrounds you won't see much apart from a slight shift in color temperature.
Against dark grey at indoor brightness you can have incredible differences between some parts of the screen.
If you use a dark theme (not black), you will see it all the time.
Does it prevents you from using the phone ? No of course not.
Does it suck on a 1000 dollars phone ? Yes.
Some people are insensitive to that kind of thing. Good for them.
It's not an OCD. It's the will to have a good looking screen.
I like good looking women. I don't think it's an OCD. I know what I want, that's all. And I want the best. Nothing less.
If you want to settle with average, good for you.
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I literally stopped reading at "Perfect eyesight." And then I went back and read your reply...and I still stopped at perfect eyesight. I wish I was as perfect as you man. For real...???
Jammol said:
I literally stopped reading at "Perfect eyesight." And then I went back and read your reply...and I still stopped at perfect eyesight. I wish I was as perfect as you man. For real...??
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You do know that you have to have a perfect eyesight to be a combat pilot, do you ?
Acuity, color, contrast, night vision, side vision, field of view, and much more. Everything is tested BEFORE you're even allowed to go forward in the selection process.
Most people fail those tests. That's sad but that's life.
As a side note, you don't have to have perfect vision to see those screen problems.
They can be very obvious to anybody open minded enough.
Close minded people though, will always be impervious to such matter.
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You do know that you have to have a perfect eyesight to be a combat pilot, do you ?
Acuity, color, contrast, night vision, side vision, field of view, and much more. Everything is tested BEFORE you're even allowed to go forward in the selection process.
Most people fail those tests. That's sad but that's life.
As a side note, you don't have to have perfect vision to see those screen problems.
They can be very obvious to anybody open minded enough.
Close minded people though, will always be impervious to such matter.
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You literally missed the most important part of my original post. That's why I stopped reading your post.
And yes I do know you have to have "Perfect" eyesight to join some military air forces.?
And I hope you aren't calling me closed minded. I never said someone has to have perfect eyesight to see the differences of the pixels in the image.
Anyways, I'm done with this. Quite pointless now.??