I was very excited about the N5 for months. I'm still using a GNex, so I was looking forward to the upgrade. I was actually on the Play Store today within minutes of the phone going on sale, ready to buy the 32bg model. But before I dropped $400, I wanted to check one thing - is the battery user replaceable. It's not, and I didn't buy the phone.
Now before you say just get an external battery, let me explain. I travel very frequently, flying at least 6x per year or more. Thus, my needs are a little different than most. I currently have a 4000mah battery for the GNex that can get me through a 12 hour day of heavy internet, game, and screen usage. I also carry a spare just in case (although I've only needed it once - it was there). The external battery just doesn't provide the portability I need.
So now I'm left with one of these choices:
1. Get a TMo or Google S4 (so I can use CM) - around $450 used
2. Get a G2 Korean Edition (sdcard and removable battery) - $800 new
3. Wait for the S5
Right now, I'm heavily leaning towards option 3. It will do many things better than the N5 for maybe $250 more. I still love the GNex, and I have no overwhelming need to upgrade now. Still though, I had high hopes for the N5. Why did Google have to go with LG instead of Samsung...
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Why were you on the Play Store? It was obvious Nexus will not have the removable battery and probably never will. Look elsewhere.
All I can say is, Google (or anyone, while we're at it) can never please everyone in this world.
Maybe the device is not for you. It's $349, it's cheap and it gets the jobs done for most of those who loves the Nexus series.
Wait until some DIY videos coming on YouTube to teach you how to replace battery for N5
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Maybe you need a tablet with a large battery instead of a phone for extended gaming lol.
3,000mAh on 16 GB was just a rumour squashed after FCC filings were released and Nexus 4 didn't have a removable battery.. so likelihoods of this having one were slim :|
cipsaz said:
Why were you on the Play Store? It was obvious Nexus will not have the removable battery and probably never will. Look elsewhere.
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Actually, from the pics, it looked like the back was removable. It doesn't resemble the N4 at all.
Lancez said:
Wait until some DIY videos coming on YouTube to teach you how to replace battery for N5
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I doubt I'll be able to swap in an airport terminal.
ranadylt said:
All I can say is, Google (or anyone, while we're at it) can never please everyone in this world.
Maybe the device is not for you. It's $349, it's cheap and it gets the jobs done for most of those who loves the Nexus series.
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I 100% agree. The N5 is a steal at $350/$400. Unfortunately, it doesn't meet my needs.
Maybe a power pack? I don't have it but I heard some people are using power pack on N4
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Lancez said:
Maybe a power pack? I don't have it but I heard some people are using power pack on N4
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Kind of kills the portability, at least for me. I just want the ability to put an extended battery in the phone and not worry about carrying two things at once.
SO get a G2 with a 3000+ battery. Kitkat will be out sooon for it. Actually Im very happy with the G2!!
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Kind of kills the portability, at least for me. I just want the ability to put an extended battery in the phone and not worry about carrying two things at once.
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May be a case with attached battery.. Or else wait. Now many companies doesn't provide replaceable battery except for Samsung.
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mx597turbo said:
Kind of kills the portability, at least for me. I just want the ability to put an extended battery in the phone and not worry about carrying two things at once.
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Don't be in a hurry..wait for some battery/screen time reports here. If you can go a whole day with power to spare, who cares if the battery is fixed? The combination in this unit may surprise you. If you're already convinced you need a replaceable cell, obviously not the phone for you. And that's fine, too.
jmill75 said:
SO get a G2 with a 3000+ battery. Kitkat will be out sooon for it. Actually Im very happy with the G2!!
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For an extra $150, I could get the Korean version - removable battery and microSD support. But $800 is ALOT to drop on a phone. Regular G2 without removable battery is no better than an N5 to me, except it costs about $200 more.
I have the same issue, just like you I own a GNex still, how I fixed my problem is owning an additional spare battery and keep it in my wallet.
Unfortunately Google has gone in the direction of non-removable batteries since the N4 and the same with this new device, I had to look else where for extra power. since I can kill both of my batteries 2 x 1750 mAh within 6 hours if I was really bored lol.
As of now, I picked up a 11,600 mAh power bank. yes it's bulky and and an additional thing to carry but it came with a 2 Amp supply usb plug. and I charge quickly with that socket. it cuts my charge time down near 40%. so when I'm low I throw it on that and within 20 minutes I get 30% easily. just put down your phone for a coffee break, it won't kill you
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Don't be in a hurry..wait for some battery/screen time reports here. If you can go a whole day with power to spare, who cares if the battery is fixed? The combination in this unit may surprise you. If you're already convinced you need a replaceable cell, obviously not the phone for you. And that's fine, too.
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Trust me, delays at the airport will kill a 2300mah battery. And some don't have any outlets available to recharge.
I have a morphie battery pack on my gs3. The phone fits in it like a case. Maybe that would suit your needs.
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it doesn't meet my needs.
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this thread is full of win win win
In this day and age, the need for a removable battery is becoming a bit unnecessary IMO. For $50 or less you can easily find a separate rechargeable battery to carry with you that can provide anywhere from 6000mAh to 10000mAh battery and not just one device-specific battery would; it would use a traditional USB port so you can use it for other devices as well, and allow for the ability to power/recharge something like the Nexus 5 for days on end or multiple recharges over several days time to extend your usage.
I'd love to have a Nexus 5, really, but I won't bother and the primary reason is (again) no expandable storage. I appreciate that everyone at Google believes in "the cloud" and I really hate that phrase, it's client-server and has been for 50+ years now, just calling it "the cloud" means nothing to me in the long run.
But I prefer local storage, even though I have 18,000+ songs sitting on my Google Play account I still have a few thousand of them on the microSD card in my LG Optimus G for local playback, and I'm not really interested in having everything in "the cloud" anyway.
Not having a removable battery in the Nexus 5 isn't even a consideration for me anymore, hasn't been for a long time because I have a nice little 4-AA battery charger I use with 4 high capacity (2600mAh) AA rechargeables - the other benefit is that even if those were to die on me at some point I can always get AA batteries most anywhere.
Just my $.02 I suppose...
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Still though, I had high hopes for the N5. Why did Google have to go with LG instead of Samsung...
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Because Samsung is moving away from making devices for anyone but themselves, and according to recent reports, they're actually working towards a custom version of Android for their own specific devices - they may even end up creating an entirely new OS for their own devices and just move away from Android completely, aka Tizen which is still being developed.
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Trust me, delays at the airport will kill a 2300mah battery. And some don't have any outlets available to recharge.
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Then you need to carry a power bank. I mean, if you're going to carry another cell around anyway to swap, why not carry one that truly buys you days of power, only double or triple a regular cell's thickness, and not need to take off a cover?
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this coupon
http://reg.e.staples.com/c/s/tagfrm...d3Bnb0JBUmtBQUdwMFZ3d0FBQUU2&PID=552179&n=927
= $199 streak 7
is it worth buying, given the low resolution? how's the battery life?
Grabbed one after seeing the link at slickdeals, couldn't resist it for $200.
I was waiting to be able to grab a tablet of such quality and bran for a good price.
Not gonna lie, I"m incredible tempted.
However, some things are holding me back. Namely the sort of meh dev activity, the resolution, the lack of GB at least, and some other niggling things. Dunno though, 199 is amazing for a device of this quality.
EmilVee said:
Not gonna lie, I"m incredible tempted.
However, some things are holding me back. Namely the sort of meh dev activity, the resolution, the lack of GB at least, and some other niggling things. Dunno though, 199 is amazing for a device of this quality.
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Unless you wanna wait another year or get some chinese chong ching ARM questionable quality, 30 day shipping and no warranty tablet, the DS7 at this price and of such power and quality is the best option in the market right now for under $400 because it'll do what any other tablet does.
Root it, get a clean ROM from DJ_steve, OC it and it'll be just as good as any other tablet in the market right now regardless of the size of the screen. This monster runs a dual core tegra 1GHz that can go as high as 1.4ghz(reaching Xoom/Iconia levels).
I happily jumped on this deal without doubting it. Waiting to get out of class and get back to my dorm to finally get to play with it.
Anyone find any teardown for this tablet ? I want to know how easy is to replace the battery ? How long do they last ? 2 years ?
I just picked one myself just now ... Any tips on what I should do next ? Honeycomb 3.2 ?
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Anyone find any teardown for this tablet ? I want to know how easy is to replace the battery ? How long do they last ? 2 years ?
I just picked one myself just now ... Any tips on what I should do next ? Honeycomb 3.2 ?
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Dell has said an official Honeycomb 3.2 is coming, unless i hear otherwise, i think i'm gonna stick with the stock for now and delete the stage UI widgets, which seem to slow down the tablet quite a bit.
we need to bring the community back to life now!!
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Unless you wanna wait another year or get some chinese chong ching ARM questionable quality, 30 day shipping and no warranty tablet, the DS7 at this price and of such power and quality is the best option in the market right now for under $400 because it'll do what any other tablet does.
Root it, get a clean ROM from DJ_steve, OC it and it'll be just as good as any other tablet in the market right now regardless of the size of the screen. This monster runs a dual core tegra 1GHz that can go as high as 1.4ghz(reaching Xoom/Iconia levels).
I happily jumped on this deal without doubting it. Waiting to get out of class and get back to my dorm to finally get to play with it.
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You know, I'm Chinese. I could be offended by your comment and say something equally offensive, but I'm just going to let you feel stupid. Then again, self-righteousness is a powerful thing.
RavenSEAL said:
Dell has said an official Honeycomb 3.2 is coming, unless i hear otherwise, i think i'm gonna stick with the stock for now and delete the stage UI widgets, which seem to slow down the tablet quite a bit.
we need to bring the community back to life now!!
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Just install Zeam Launcher/ADW Launcher/Launcher Pro/etc. Stage UI will never even come into play; the device is vanilla FroYo with a custom launcher and a few added apks (like Swype).
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You know, I'm Chinese. I could be offended by your comment and say something equally offensive, but I'm just going to let you feel stupid. Then again, self-righteousness is a powerful thing.
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Lol, i knew someone was gonna say something about that. Then again, i am describing the quality of their tablets, not the people <3
My personal advice: get it! I love this thing, and I'm on FroYo (I might upgrade to DJ's HC 3.2, but we'll see).
There have been a lot of posts on this, but I know it can be a pain to wade through the forums so I'll summarise the good and bad for this device.
The Bad
Might as well get it out of the way.
First, the battery. It sucks. This is my main device (computer, phone, camera, etc.), which puts me in a pretty good position to rate this. It's livable if you're OK with frequent charging, but if you're going to go for long stints away from a power supply and with heavy use, this is a dealbreaker. If you're normally near an outlet, this is simply an inconvenience.
Next, the screen. It's definitely not up to snuff with the likes of the Nook Color or the Galaxy Tab series, but it's really not that bad. It has one viewing angle that's pretty poor ("down," in portrait mode), but it really isn't a bother. Long and the short of it: you won't notice if you don't have it next to a Galaxy Tab (even then; my wife has a GTab 7, and I like the contrast better on the Streak7 screen).
Next, in the inimitable words of Steve Balmer, DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS! I used to have the OG Droid, which was one of the most developed for devices on the planet. The Streak 7 is one of the least. This may or may not be an issue for you.
The Good
This is a bit broader of a category, and, of course, varies by model.
First, the T-Mo version has 4G. This is incredibly nice and puts it ahead of a lot of the other guys out there.
If you're on the WiFi version, you can disable the cellular stuff and greatly increase your battery life (I do mean greatly; cell standby is the number one battery drain on this device). This isn't exactly a "pro," but it does negate a con if you're going WiFi only. You must be rooted to do this, though.
The processor. Oh, the processor! Tegra 2 is a phenominal little SoC. Don't listen to the detractors (who rely mainly on crappy benchmarking software; there are no good benchmarks for mobile devices right now- not Quadrant, not Egypt, etc.). Think of it this way: the Snapdragon may not have been the "best" of the smartphone chips in the last run of single core phones, but it was the reference hardware. Thus, almost everything ran faster on it due to being optimised for it. The same goes for the Tegra 2, which can be found in the Streak 7, Moto XOOM, Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, ASUS Transformer, and on and on. All reference hardware from Google (basically, the XOOM and GTab 10.1) run Tegra 2. Everything I've seen works very smoothly and very quickly.
Cameras. It's got two. Don't expect stellar shots, but the quality is head and shoulders over the iPad2 and it also has a flash.
Gorilla Glass. Enough said.
Size, if it's what you're looking for. I prefer the 7" size because I take it everywhere with me. If that's not an issue for you, you might prefer the 10.1" models. Even without needing portability, though, I think I'd still opt for 7" (I know; that's what she said).
Full size SD card slot. This is great for reading camera memory, purchasing an extra card for media storage, or just saving cash on a second SDD for use as dedicated memory.
Vanilla Android. In it's stock form, the Streak 7 runs a skinless version of FroYo. It can't really be overstated how welcome this is for the type of people who crawl XDA.
Well, that's the long and the short of it. Is the Streak 7 right for you? Maybe. Depends on your usage. I got a Streak 7 for me and a Galaxy Tab 7 for the wife. We both wanted the 7" size, but she benefits more from the long battery life, nicer screen, and even TouchWiz (yes, there are people out there who find it useful). The Streak7 would drive her nuts, but the Galaxy Tab would drive me nuts. Different strokes, you know?
Z4nd4r said:
Just install Zeam Launcher/ADW Launcher/Launcher Pro/etc. Stage UI will never even come into play; the device is vanilla FroYo with a custom launcher and a few added apks (like Swype).
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Z4nd4r said:
My personal advice: get it! I love this thing, and I'm on FroYo (I might upgrade to DJ's HC 3.2, but we'll see).
There have been a lot of posts on this, but I know it can be a pain to wade through the forums so I'll summarise the good and bad for this device.
The Bad
Might as well get it out of the way.
First, the battery. It sucks. This is my main device (computer, phone, camera, etc.), which puts me in a pretty good position to rate this. It's livable if you're OK with frequent charging, but if you're going to go for long stints away from a power supply and with heavy use, this is a dealbreaker. If you're normally near an outlet, this is simply an inconvenience.
Next, the screen. It's definitely not up to snuff with the likes of the Nook Color or the Galaxy Tab series, but it's really not that bad. It has one viewing angle that's pretty poor ("down," in portrait mode), but it really isn't a bother. Long and the short of it: you won't notice if you don't have it next to a Galaxy Tab (even then; my wife has a GTab 7, and I like the contrast better on the Streak7 screen).
Next, in the inimitable words of Steve Balmer, DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS! I used to have the OG Droid, which was one of the most developed for devices on the planet. The Streak 7 is one of the least. This may or may not be an issue for you.
The Good
This is a bit broader of a category, and, of course, varies by model.
First, the T-Mo version has 4G. This is incredibly nice and puts it ahead of a lot of the other guys out there.
If you're on the WiFi version, you can disable the cellular stuff and greatly increase your battery life (I do mean greatly; cell standby is the number one battery drain on this device). This isn't exactly a "pro," but it does negate a con if you're going WiFi only. You must be rooted to do this, though.
The processor. Oh, the processor! Tegra 2 is a phenominal little SoC. Don't listen to the detractors (who rely mainly on crappy benchmarking software; there are no good benchmarks for mobile devices right now- not Quadrant, not Egypt, etc.). Think of it this way: the Snapdragon may not have been the "best" of the smartphone chips in the last run of single core phones, but it was the reference hardware. Thus, almost everything ran faster on it due to being optimised for it. The same goes for the Tegra 2, which can be found in the Streak 7, Moto XOOM, Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, ASUS Transformer, and on and on. All reference hardware from Google (basically, the XOOM and GTab 10.1) run Tegra 2. Everything I've seen works very smoothly and very quickly.
Cameras. It's got two. Don't expect stellar shots, but the quality is head and shoulders over the iPad2 and it also has a flash.
Gorilla Glass. Enough said.
Size, if it's what you're looking for. I prefer the 7" size because I take it everywhere with me. If that's not an issue for you, you might prefer the 10.1" models. Even without needing portability, though, I think I'd still opt for 7" (I know; that's what she said).
Full size SD card slot. This is great for reading camera memory, purchasing an extra card for media storage, or just saving cash on a second SDD for use as dedicated memory.
Vanilla Android. In it's stock form, the Streak 7 runs a skinless version of FroYo. It can't really be overstated how welcome this is for the type of people who crawl XDA.
Well, that's the long and the short of it. Is the Streak 7 right for you? Maybe. Depends on your usage. I got a Streak 7 for me and a Galaxy Tab 7 for the wife. We both wanted the 7" size, but she benefits more from the long battery life, nicer screen, and even TouchWiz (yes, there are people out there who find it useful). The Streak7 would drive her nuts, but the Galaxy Tab would drive me nuts. Different strokes, you know?
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Hm... What are we talking about in terms of battery life here? As long as it's at least 8 hours, I don't think this should be an issue.
I may try it out. It's definitely a steal @ $199. If things don't turn out well, then I'll just return it or maybe re-sell it for profit once the promotion is over.
Thanks for the info!
EmilVee said:
Hm... What are we talking about in terms of battery life here? As long as it's at least 8 hours, I don't think this should be an issue.
I may try it out. It's definitely a steal @ $199. If things don't turn out well, then I'll just return it or maybe re-sell it for profit once the promotion is over.
Thanks for the info!
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That depends: are you going WiFi? How many hours of that is actual usage? I can get 15 hours of light use out of the 4G version; would easily be a full day out of the WiFi with phone.apk and telephony.apk disabled.
If you're talking full usage, I wouldn't expect much more than 4-5 solid hours from the WiFi version with the cell radios disabled (but WiFi on). Maybe a little more if you installed Honeycomb. Less for the 4G version; maybe 3+ hours of continued use.
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That depends: are you going WiFi? How many hours of that is actual usage? I can get 15 hours of light use out of the 4G version; would easily be a full day out of the WiFi with phone.apk and telephony.apk disabled.
If you're talking full usage, I wouldn't expect much more than 4-5 solid hours from the WiFi version with the cell radios disabled (but WiFi on). Maybe a little more if you installed Honeycomb. Less for the 4G version; maybe 3+ hours of continued use.
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Yes, I'm going wi-fi if I get this. When you say 'full usage', what do you mean? 4-5 hours is kinda... ****.
Also, can I safely assume that the Streak will never have CM7? I just read an earlier topic that sort of came to that conclusion.
EmilVee said:
Hm... What are we talking about in terms of battery life here? As long as it's at least 8 hours, I don't think this should be an issue.
I may try it out. It's definitely a steal @ $199. If things don't turn out well, then I'll just return it or maybe re-sell it for profit once the promotion is over.
Thanks for the info!
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I have the 4G version, but do not use the 4G. The most I get is around 3 hours with constant use over WiFi.
EmilVee said:
Yes, I'm going wi-fi if I get this. When you say 'full usage', what do you mean? 4-5 hours is kinda... ****.
Also, can I safely assume that the Streak will never have CM7? I just read an earlier topic that sort of came to that conclusion.
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If you want battery life drop 500 on a different tablet. I could get through 3 hour long shows and then need to charge. Dell really should have made the battery replaceable.
Glad I just sold my 4g version for 250 before this happened (the deal)
Found myself not using the tablet much after getting a ThunderBolt. I'd much rather have a 10 inch empty shell that a phone slides into then a tablet at this point. Spent too much time trying to figure out where I was on my twitter timeline between devices. Same thing with games. They need a way to upload your save state so you can swap between devices.
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If you want battery life drop 500 on a different tablet. I could get through 3 hour long shows and then need to charge. Dell really should have made the battery replaceable.
Glad I just sold my 4g version for 250 before this happened (the deal)
Found myself not using the tablet much after getting a ThunderBolt. I'd much rather have a 10 inch empty shell that a phone slides into then a tablet at this point. Spent too much time trying to figure out where I was on my twitter timeline between devices. Same thing with games. They need a way to upload your save state so you can swap between devices.
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Hearing this, I think... I might just go with the Nook Color.
yup picked up dell streak 7 today using this coupon
awesome deal! - I picked up a dell streak - can't wait to put honeystreak on it! I'm returning my crappy two day old Coby Mid7016(with bootleg coby ginger**** with no flash support LOL)
Here is link for $100 off any tablet with exception of E readers and HP tablet, my co worker used the coupon for a Samsung Tab 10.1 16 gig for only $399 with coupon - Awesome!
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13845_3-20081008-58/get-an-acer-iconia-10-inch-android-tablet-for-$299.98/
dell streak 7
i recently bought my dell streak 7 after searching the prons and the cons on the internet.
some people complain about the battery time
and some others complain about the screen.
after playing with it for some time, i don't think that the screen is that bad. the colors are pretty good, the resolution though could have been better BUT i have heard that if you manage to change the "density" of the screen its like changing resolution. i haven't tried to change it yet but i will, when i find time to do it.
now about the battery. i only use wi-fi so i have "flight mode" enabled at all times and i switch on the wifi when i need it. i have also deleted the "Stage UI" and am using Launcher Pro Plus.
The standby time is very good, i lose a little less than 1% of battery/ per hour. i went to sleep at 1am (80% battery) and i woke up at 10:30am (73% battery). 7% of battery for 9 1/2 hours
The "use" time is a bit of a problem. i have wi-fi on and i play order and chaos online. The volume bar is set at half and i get around 4 hours of playtime for the tab to run out of battery. When i surf the web i can get up to 6 hours if i don't watch videos, since sound drains the battery faster. i haven't tried to mute all sounds and play games to see if it gets any better.
i have read on another post that when you flash honeycomb on the device you get better battery time on both standby and playtime.
So you can wait for the official HC update or you can even flash DJ_Steve's 3.2
I haven't played on another tablet except ipad but i thing that DS7 its worth the 200$. i paid 400euros (galaxy tab 7 costs 320euros) to buy it since i live in Europe
i hope that my post helped you clear some things on your mind.
alucardnos said:
i recently bought my dell streak 7 after searching the prons and the cons on the internet.
some people complain about the battery time
and some others complain about the screen.
after playing with it for some time, i don't think that the screen is that bad. the colors are pretty good, the resolution though could have been better BUT i have heard that if you manage to change the "density" of the screen its like changing resolution. i haven't tried to change it yet but i will, when i find time to do it.
now about the battery. i only use wi-fi so i have "flight mode" enabled at all times and i switch on the wifi when i need it. i have also deleted the "Stage UI" and am using Launcher Pro Plus.
The standby time is very good, i lose a little less than 1% of battery/ per hour. i went to sleep at 1am (80% battery) and i woke up at 10:30am (73% battery). 7% of battery for 9 1/2 hours
The "use" time is a bit of a problem. i have wi-fi on and i play order and chaos online. The volume bar is set at half and i get around 4 hours of playtime for the tab to run out of battery. When i surf the web i can get up to 6 hours if i don't watch videos, since sound drains the battery faster. i haven't tried to mute all sounds and play games to see if it gets any better.
i have read on another post that when you flash honeycomb on the device you get better battery time on both standby and playtime.
So you can wait for the official HC update or you can even flash DJ_Steve's 3.2
I haven't played on another tablet except ipad but i thing that DS7 its worth the 200$. i paid 400euros (galaxy tab 7 costs 320euros) to buy it since i live in Europe
i hope that my post helped you clear some things on your mind.
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That sounds about right for my 4G version. I stay in airplane mode and turn on WiFi when I turn on the tablet. I get around 3 hours, maybe 3:30, before I have to recharge. For stock use, the 4G modem is always activated, and there is no way to deactivate it without rooting the device, which I don't want to do.
Mugen doesn't have any extended batteries for the Note 2. Any other producer offering these so far?
Did you even TRY to look at the many thread about this?
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Mugen doesn't have any extended batteries for the Note 2. Any other producer offering these so far?
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search "air strike" in this forum, lol :silly:
I agree with both of you that it's damn irritating when an idiot keeps asking the question that's been asked a hundred times before...
The problem here is that if you browse the forum on the phone itself via either the xda or the xda hd app, their search functions are crippled, and you can't search in a forum. So the search gives you a million useless results from other forums.
Thus the only solution, it seems to me, is to just keep leafing through the forum threads manually and it doesn't seem to be easy to identify a result...
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I agree with both of you that it's damn irritating when an idiot keeps asking the question that's been asked a hundred times before...
The problem here is that if you browse the forum on the phone itself via either the xda or the xda hd app, their search functions are crippled, and you can't search in a forum. So the search gives you a million useless results from other forums.
Thus the only solution, it seems to me, is to just keep leafing through the forum threads manually and it doesn't seem to be easy to identify a result...
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No hard feeling, we all have time when it's unbelievably hard to find something (like a remote control of the TV lol) :highfive:
I do believe that it is better to give out information than to educate. No offense to #2 post though.
I found one here:
http://www.batterybay.net/Battery-for-Samsung-GT-N7100-p/samsung-cs-smn710hl.htm
But didn't try yet. Just for your reference.
Thanks. As a matter of fact I searched on ebay and bought one 8500 mAh one from Singapore, waiting for it to arrive...
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And you know why....
白い熊 said:
Thanks. As a matter of fact I searched on ebay and bought one 8500 mAh one from Singapore, waiting for it to arrive...
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How did it go? They're getting more common on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/8500mAh-...ies&hash=item27cd06d0c3&_uhb=1#ht_1859wt_1163
Just got it this week. Have to say awesome, lasts forever, the design of the back cover is elegant and the phone is much more pleasant to hold in your hand.
白い熊 said:
Just got it this week. Have to say awesome, lasts forever, the design of the back cover is elegant and the phone is much more pleasant to hold in your hand.
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How much more does the phone weigh?
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8500 mah battery - Is that even necessary? Do you really go that long without your charger?
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Yes, it's really necessary. I use tte phone all day long, it's on permanently, screen on, without the charger.
That's why this battery is a godsend.
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How much more does the phone weigh?
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It's non noticeably heavier to me. But it weighs more, don't know how much.
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It's non noticeably heavier to me. But it weighs more, don't know how much.
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Can you post a photo ?
As ridiculous as it may seem, I kind of want one!
Maybe tomorrow. I was very surprised though how elegant the phone looks with this battery. It's the new back cover, has very smooth curves, I like it a lot...
I'm a heavy user, I love my 4600mah battery for my gs3, looks like I get the gn2 tomorrow; so i'm looking at this battery and drooling. I know exactly what you mean about fitting in your hand. I spend my time doing anything from navigation while making phone calls or streaming music, extensive skype usage, constantly in my browser.. fpse is my favorite pastime (and, in fact, why i want this phone, the extra screen will be perfect for gaming those dusty ps1 games in the closet). I've been known to blast my hulu or netflix anytime anywhere, and i like my screen on bright, with all my services running like gps constantly. I get 10-12hrs of screen time depending on my usage..
any way we could get some benchmarks? how much screen on time are we talking? are you gaming, or just reading a book, or streaming video?
No, I don't feel like benchmarking anything.
Basically I can confirm though that this battery is supposedly almost 3x the capacity of the stock one, and based on my experience so far this is indeed so. Thus, I think it's a high quality battery, and whatever you're doing with the phone, you'll be able to do almost three times as long.
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I personally think extended batteries are not required for the Note 2, so far this is the best Android phone I have ever used and the battery lasts a day under heavy usage...
Phyllis Dinse said:
These are extended batteries for the Note 2. I bought one and brought it to everywhere to charger my phone. It is so convenience.
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OT, these are not extended batteries, these are external.
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Read it here.
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x_2014-review-1136.php
As predicted, the battery just makes this a not recommend. Why motorola why ?
Apart from the battery, and the lack of SDCard slot (remember the G has one)
oh and no stereo speakers (like the G)
I suppose the phablet size is also a negative, last years size hit that sweet spot.
Motorola you just shot yourself in the foot. I'm out.
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Read it here.
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x_2014-review-1136.php
As predicted, the battery just makes this a not recommend. Why motorola why ?
Apart from the battery, and the lack of SDCard slot (remember the G has one)
oh and no stereo speakers (like the G)
I suppose the phablet size is also a negative, last years size hit that sweet spot.
Motorola you just shot yourself in the foot. I'm out.
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None of your negatives matter to me. Thanks for playing. Bye.
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None of your negatives matter to me. Thanks for playing. Bye.
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Honestly, all these reviews that "test" battery is very unreasonable. That isn't even real world usage. By running scripts, you're allowing other things to happen, like wakelocks, perhaps constant CPU loads, etc. Based on those using it as a phone, users are getting over 12hrs, and that is fine with me
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That's the thing. I don't want to accept 12 hrs as a good thing, when I could have 24 for example, plus other makers are doing it, even with smaller form factors (Sony Z3c) so I stand by my opinion that Moto dropped the ball with a small battery, especially as the new display is more battery hungry.
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That's the thing. I don't want to accept 12 hrs as a good thing, when I could have 24 for example, plus other makers are doing it, even with smaller form factors (Sony Z3c) so I stand by my opinion that Moto dropped the ball with a small battery, especially as the new display is more battery hungry.
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I do agree that Moto could have done better with the battery size, but every person is different in what satisfies them in terms of battery. Totally understandable. I just need it to last half a day. I also have an external battery pack, so I am not too worried about not charging
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With the same usage moto x lasts more then my old s3
Hi folks,
I just ordered a Nexus 6.
I currently have a m7vzw (Verizon HTC One M7), and cut my teeth here rigging s-off and root, and then trying many different ROMS for it. My needs are pretty simple and, as you can see from the title, I like long battery life.
I currently run Vanilla AOSP 4.4.4 and minimal edition gapps. Light email push from gmail and to MS Outlook for work. Very little surfing and phone use. No extraneous apps, and no social networking apps. I typically need to charge up every 6-7 days.
Any suggestions for some ROMS to consider here? I never exceeded 3 days on my current phone using 5.x with the same usage and configuration. I quit trying after a while.
Thanks for your time
Errrr... I guess if you leave WiFi and data off you might get a couple days if you don't use screen often? Most get 3-6hrs screen on time to give a day to a day and a half?
Probably not getting 6 days, if you are, your spending way to much for your phone, because you obviously are not using it [emoji14]
Lol seriously though. You're the type of phone user to get a months use out of a ZeroLemon battery.
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I have near-constant access to much more powerful equipment for business and gaming. I have some very specific needs that my phone addresses.
Is there a better place I could post the question? Does anyone here have the expertise to provide useful answers? Or does the sarcasm indicate that this device has stupidly low battery life, regardless of which ROM is used?
I fun stock 5.1.1 unencrypted, with Lean Kernel and a flashed.zip of the drives from the M preview.
I went from 7PM Sunday night to 3:44PM Wednesday Afternoon before charging my phone. I also have very light usage like you. That included 30+hrs of music listening, 2hrs SOT, a few camera shots and all my Google, work email, and Skype accts on ans syncing,
Seems to me that android M will work out for you.........I run M preview 3 currently and made it last weekend from unplugging Friday around 12 noon and plugged in Monday (labor day) forgot my charger at work over the weekend, but plugged in Monday around 11:30am and still had to about 25% remaining, had to use an old charger (not turbo charger) but I was afraid it would die overnight while I was sleeping and the alarm would not go off for work Tuesday. I don't remember what all my stats were, but very light usage since like I said, my turbo charger was at work
Good luck, nexus 6 is a great phone and tweaked right should yield very good standby time
Thanks
SoulSherpa said:
I have near-constant access to much more powerful equipment for business and gaming. I have some very specific needs that my phone addresses.
Is there a better place I could post the question? Does anyone here have the expertise to provide useful answers? Or does the sarcasm indicate that this device has stupidly low battery life, regardless of which ROM is used?
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which rom or kernel you use will not have any influence on your battery life. battery life is determined by your personal use, your personal set up, which apps you decide to install, and very much your phone/data signal quality. everything else has very littke affect on battery. that said, i personally see about 5.5-7h screen on time. and that pretty decent. but 6 days battery, while using your device, youll never see. only if you dont use your device for long periods of time and if you have your signal turned off.
SoulSherpa said:
I have near-constant access to much more powerful equipment for business and gaming. I have some very specific needs that my phone addresses.
Is there a better place I could post the question? Does anyone here have the expertise to provide useful answers? Or does the sarcasm indicate that this device has stupidly low battery life, regardless of which ROM is used?
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lol
the device doesnt have stupid low battery, your previous experience, and expectations are stupid high.
tbh, short of turning off data when the screen is off, and having extremely light use (like almost none), i couldnt even speculate what phones could go that distance consistently, short of leaving the phone sit there like a paper weight and never using it.
not trying to be smart, just being realistic, given my experience with about a dozen flagship smart phones over the years.
the guy who commented about the zero lemon battery might have been being funny, but seriously, for the longevity you expect, you should be looking at phones that have zl support.
i have a g3 with a zl battery. with average use you can get 5 days or more, and easily increasing with lighter use.
i tested the n6 before for life with less than 1% use vs time, and it was in the range of 6 days. but that was running a premium rom and kernel and strong service always.
where the n6 excels imo is for the normal user. i have shown proof of 8 to 11 hours screen time during a normal days use consistently.
most people are happy to make it through the day, and charge nightly while you sleep. when you state an expectation of 5-6 days, the comments are undoubtedly not going to be up to your expectations.
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which rom or kernel you use will not have any influence on your battery life
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I respectfully disagree. I tried several ROMs on my current HTC One. On average, the late 4.x series lasted twice as long as the 5.x series with the same apps, usage and locations. I realize you can attribute whatever battery life fail was added to the OS as "personal set up" or "app". But it is what it is.
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lol the device doesnt have stupid low battery, your previous experience, and expectations are stupid high.
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My expectations? I've been charging my phone once a week for several months. I went through several configurations to get it that way.
Obviously my use case for the phone is different from yours. I typically use under 300 minutes talk, under 300 texts, and under 500 MB data monthly. But I depend on email push throughout the day, need text and voice when there's an issue, and need reliable data and a good screen for remoting to my servers if there's a problem.
I don't give people grief about how they use their phones. Evidently it's a fun and popular thing to do here. Good luck with that.
Thanks for the statistical info. The bulk of the battery case is duly noted as a last resort.
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I respectfully disagree. I tried several ROMs on my current HTC One. On average, the late 4.x series lasted twice as long as the 5.x series with the same apps, usage and locations. I realize you can attribute whatever battery life fail was added to the OS as "personal set up" or "app". But it is what it is.
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honestly, i have no ideas about an htc, considering that my last htc was the g1, which i got in oct of 2008, lol. but whatever rom that you use on a nexus, does not have anything in it for battery life, besides whats in it from stock android. now some kernels do add in things that can help YOU save battery, by how you use or setup your device, but they just wont save you battery on their own. well, they will, buy not enough to notice. unfortunately @SoulSherpa, many people have tried to prove me wrong over the many years ive been with android, but none have. just because people claim better battery with one rom over another, doesnt actually make it real. people believe many things, much of it is not true.
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My expectations? I've been charging my phone once a week for several months. I went through several configurations to get it that way.
Obviously my use case for the phone is different from yours. I typically use under 300 minutes talk, under 300 texts, and under 500 MB data monthly. But I depend on email push throughout the day, need text and voice when there's an issue, and need reliable data and a good screen for remoting to my servers if there's a problem.
I don't give people grief about how they use their phones. Evidently it's a fun and popular thing to do here. Good luck with that.
Thanks for the statistical info. The bulk of the battery case is duly noted as a last resort.
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its not different from mine, its different from 99.9999% of all other users.
i typically use under 50min a MONTH, under 200 texts a MONTH, and data, well im grandfathered so thats nothing to discuss.
how others use their phone is representative to how the manufacturers design them, for the average user who charges daily.
you appear to perceive my previous comments as sarcastic and statistical, the further could be from my intention.
i have a rather extensive android knowledge from helping other users for about 5 years. your expectations of any device are highly irregular.
we are merely attempting to make you aware of that, however unsuccessful at the moment...
The reason people treat your question like its weird is pretty simple:
While with minimal and careful usage phones can get through multiple days of usage, the battery life your suggesting, on any android phone, is going to require very little screen on time, limiting the hell out of its data connections, ect...
If you are seriously just trying to have an emergency phone that you can make calls on occasionally and fire up a terminal to remote into your server to check status or run a command or two.... Why are you paying for a 6inch screen with ultra HD display, a powerful processor, dual front facing speakers.... All this stuff that only serves to drain battery and add weight if your not using your phone for entertainment.
Your looking to pay extra for specs you don't need on a device with only "adequate" battery life instead of getting a modest phone that won't consume as much, with an external battery case that would probably let it run a couple weeks for you....
my nexus 5, without sim card, in airplane mode, brightness all the way down, can last me around 3 weeks. but, thats with 0 use. 6 days, with a nexus 6, should be possible, even easy enough.
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Because larger screens make remoting much, much easier. Especially when it's a GUI. So, a "phablet" sized phone has always been appealing.
Further, I've been waiting for a "good deal" and the price dropped to $350. My m7vzw had its radio neutered (thanks Verizon), so when I switched to Ting (t-mobile) GSM my data speed hit the floor with EDGE only. The Nexus 6 has nice radio band support.
Have you considered a small tablet? (7 inch or so). You could set up a Google voice account and do all your calls/texts over WiFi/cell data. You'd get a far better battery life with far less effort to do so, and itd be even better for remote access.
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Have you considered a small tablet?
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I have, and you make a good point. But I still want something I can holster since I don't normally carry a man-pack or utilikilt
This Nexus 6 is pushing it for size -- the holster is huge. But the screen real estate is nice.
FYI, I'm currently running CleanCore:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-cleancore-vomer-100-lean-stock-03-t3059199
...and I seem to be on-track to meet or exceed the six day goal with my light usage (email checks and texts throughout the day, occasional remote, occasional surfing, occasional phone call).
My nexus 7 fits in my pocket no problem. And I'm a fairly average sized male.
There are a few other threads just like mine, except they're all almost a year old. I come here as a 1.5-year HTC One M7 (yes, the old one) user looking to buy a new, bigger phone with a better battery. Is this worth buying in late 2016/early 2017 for around $200 used? What have your experiences been like with it? Is there a better phone out there for a similar price? I'm not too concerned about size at the moment, as I usually grip my phone with two hands anyways (I am thirteen, however, so I have tiny hands).
This doesn't really answer your question, but I'm still waiting for the "Fire Sales" on the 6P that the 6 had when the 6P came out. Why have the prices not dropped signifiganctly on the 6P yet since the Pixel is out?
More than likely you had the fire sales because Motorola made too many to meet the demand, a demand tempered by bloggers and tech reviewers who simply couldn't deal with the size of the phone. It seemed you couldn't watch or read a review without someone mentioning in a negative manner the size of the Nexus 6.
I wonder if they were simply trying to compensate for their own size issues.
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There are a few other threads just like mine, except they're all almost a year old. I come here as a 1.5-year HTC One M7 (yes, the old one) user looking to buy a new, bigger phone with a better battery. Is this worth buying in late 2016/early 2017 for around $200 used? What have your experiences been like with it? Is there a better phone out there for a similar price? I'm not too concerned about size at the moment, as I usually grip my phone with two hands anyways (I am thirteen, however, so I have tiny hands).
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I just picked mine up used on Saturday. I also had an M7 and then Zenfone 2. It is still with buying and I also use 2 hands. Nothing to worry about as I use it as a mini tablet as well as a phone.
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I think it's still a worthwhile phone at end of 2016. I just picked one up. upgraded from nexus one. I had a galaxy nexus, but it was kinda pointless without 4g antennas, so I reverted back to n1 temporarily.
If the nexus 5x was a reliable phone on android 7, I would say get the 5x instead of a nexus 6, but from the boot loop issues the 5x has been having, and it's sub-par build quality, I think the nexus 6 is a viable alternative.
It is also worth noting that the nexus 6 was a ~$600 phone when released, while the 5x was ~$300ish, so I think the 6 is a better overall phone. If you look at the teardowns, the nexus 6 does indeed seem to be built better.
sure the nexus 6 may not be faster, is tremendous in the hands, and hard to handle, but I think It'll last me until used pixel's become affordable (~$200 range.) If you do get a nexus 6, I would experiment with cases because it is just to darn thin and tapered to get a good grip. I'm waiting on a few cases myself.
Sure, there are other phones on the market beside the nexus line, but I gravitate toward them because they tend to have long term support and are a favorite among developers
I think it is cool that you're on XDA and 13. Keep at it. I was messing around with Palm PDA's at your age and .prc files. Oh and win95 machines.
enjoy
I've had my N6 for about a year. It's been a very reliable phone. Still worth buying in late 16/ early 17, especially if you can get one in good condition at decent price and plan on flashing custom ROMs. Only cons I can think of are the mediocre camera and relatively dim screen. Love the screen size, dual front speakers, wireless charging and overall build quality.
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The Nexus 6 is a good phone it is just large for me. I still keep it at home as a media device and the speakers are very good, but myself personally it is too large for everyday use and I got sick of the size after 1 year. I just a basic 5x set up as a daily driver, and theme, flash on the 6 that I still have.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
More than likely you had the fire sales because Motorola made too many to meet the demand, a demand tempered by bloggers and tech reviewers who simply couldn't deal with the size of the phone. It seemed you couldn't watch or read a review without someone mentioning in a negative manner the size of the Nexus 6.
I wonder if they were simply trying to compensate for their own size issues.
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Yup. All the "dainty" sausage loving reviewers with tiny hands don't like a big phone. Maybe memories of traumatic experiences dealing with something that was too big for them?
The rest of us with bigger fingers NEED the extra size in order to actually be ABLE to use a touch-only device.
The N6 is the best phone I've ever used. None of my other phones come close. Size, speed, storage, sound, tweakability are all great. Should something happen to my current N6 (perish the thought), I'd be on eBay in an instant finding another. It's that good.
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Thanks for all the responses! Looks like I have just another reason to pick up one of these on Swappa. Can't wait to try out some fresh Nougat ROMs when I get it.
I got my N6 a year ago black Friday for $200, and also came from a One M7. Battery life isn't good so keep that in mind. I never get through the day on a charge. The fact that it's a Nexus is amazing for roms. Honestly even stock this phone is still pretty fast. I gotta tell you though, after a year I can't stand how big it is. Using it one handed is really annoying. I was actually looking for something different this black Friday but couldn't find anything compelling. There is an app called fooview that I started using though that has really helped it be a better phone one handed. At sub 200 it's definitely a solid buy
@spizzlo: Your battery life issues are atypical, and probably related to the apps you have installed. For example, the facebook app is really poorly coded, and as a result consumes extraordinary amounts of both memory and battery. Remove it and watch your battery life improve. So you might want to check your device with Better Battery Stats and see which of them is consuming all your battery life.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@spizzlo: Your battery life issues are atypical, and probably related to the apps you have installed. For example, the facebook app is really poorly coded, and as a result consumes extraordinary amounts of both memory and battery. Remove it and watch your battery life improve. So you might want to check your device with Better Battery Stats and see which of them is consuming all your battery life.
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I use Instagram, which is a battery hog in the background, but I have Greenify Pro with the Xposed GCM function enabled so it's no biggie. I love that I can still get my notifications when it's hibernated. Hopefully the N6 battery does me well after living with the aging one inside my M7.
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The N6 is the best phone I've ever used. None of my other phones come close. Size, speed, storage, sound, tweakability are all great. Should something happen to my current N6 (perish the thought), I'd be on eBay in an instant finding another. It's that good.
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My thoughts exactly!
The N6 is the Best smartphone I have ever had!
Get screen and Great Front Facing Speaker!
Also I do actually like the camera...much better camera than the HTC devices I previously had.
My only complaint is the battery. No matter what I do, it still seems to drain fairly quickly. So I ensure that I keep it charged up as much as possible.
So...yes...the Nexus 6 is worth buying in 2016-2017!
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firedroidx said:
I use Instagram, which is a battery hog in the background, but I have Greenify Pro with the Xposed GCM function enabled so it's no biggie. I love that I can still get my notifications when it's hibernated. Hopefully the N6 battery does me well after living with the aging one inside my M7.
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I've had mine for a year now. I've easily been able to make it through a full day with all kinds of usage, from gaming to simple browsing. You should have no problem, especially if you're using Greenify on your battery hogs.
Beside, the battery life, you should be fine. Get extra chargers
I had mine for 2 years & I am still using it. I can't find a replacement for it yet.
Now that we can expect to get Nougat 7.1.1 on it soon, I am keeping mine until at least Dec 2017 or whenever Google stops support
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firedroidx said:
There are a few other threads just like mine, except they're all almost a year old. I come here as a 1.5-year HTC One M7 (yes, the old one) user looking to buy a new, bigger phone with a better battery. Is this worth buying in late 2016/early 2017 for around $200 used? What have your experiences been like with it? Is there a better phone out there for a similar price? I'm not too concerned about size at the moment, as I usually grip my phone with two hands anyways (I am thirteen, however, so I have tiny hands).
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The N6 isn't totally comparable to the newest flagships, they just have better specs, that said, the N6 was ahead of its time, has pretty good hardware and access to the newest versions of Android. It also has a kickass xda community that cook up great ROMs. Running 7.1 with a good kernel, Viper audio and my phone is much better than most out there waiting for their carrier to give them an old bloatware full update.
I'll be sad to see my N6 go.
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I've had mine since launch. Great phone.. But...
My new OnePlus 3T absolutely smokes it. No comparison.
If you have the money, get something newer.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@spizzlo: Your battery life issues are atypical, and probably related to the apps you have installed. For example, the facebook app is really poorly coded, and as a result consumes extraordinary amounts of both memory and battery. Remove it and watch your battery life improve. So you might want to check your device with Better Battery Stats and see which of them is consuming all your battery life.
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I found the facebook app can be readily tamed by removing a bunch of needless permissions through the privacy manager and setting it up for screen off snoozing with greenify. But you're right that a bad battery experience is atypical if you know how to properly deal with battery issues (rogue apps, wakelock problems, etc.).
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I would buy it again now. I bought it last year for a pretty good deal before the black friday/cyber week sales, and because Amazon gave me a 90-day holiday return window, I was able to "return" it and buy it for $100 cheaper a month later. But after using it for over a year now, I would have probably paid full price for it. At the time my goal was to get a new phone for my Sprint account without having to renew a 2-year contract, so the N6 was the same price as the "Sprint" N6 but had double the memory and was white.
I'm a pretty big person, but I don't have an issue with the size of the N6. It's not so much size as it is width, because most of the new phones are close to being 6" phones, it's just they're taller and not as wide. I don't like those other phones as much because of that and feel they're too tall.
I also don't have an issue with the camera -- it's great! It's nice to be able to leave my bigger dedicated camera at home sometimes knowing I can rely on getting great pics and video with the N6.
I was also looking to get a black friday/cyber monday deal on the 6p (mostly for my son, but possibly for me), but they're still not a good deal. I don't really view the 6p as much of an upgrade to the N6 anyway.