Android 4.4 Kitkat Impressions Thread - Nexus 4 General

Now that ROMs are being built from the Nexus 5 4.4 source, what are your impressions on the update?
Also, please specify if you're using the OTA update or a Nexus 5 4.4 variant because the performance on both can depend greatly on it.
Anyway, my impressions:
Nexus 5 4.4 AOSP build:
+ The no black bars in the status bar and nav bar when in the homescreen is pretty nice looking
+ Homescreen with the Google Now stuff looks pretty good too
+ The clock doesn't look ugly anymore now that Google got rid of the bolded font
+ I like showing more information about battery drain from apps that use location
+ Bigger focus on Google Now.
+ It looks like more control on Google Now too like adding reminders and easier to modify preferences.
+ Easier and more apparent way to open Google Now and Camera from the lockscreen
+ Easier to choose a default Launcher now that it's in the Settings
- The white font when not in the homescreen (the black bars return) make apps look really plain and bland.
- Moving to neutral colours for other apps like the Keyboard make it looks plain as well
- I'm not really liking the changed Roboto font
- Tougher to add screens and widgets
- Dialer's design is all over the place. It has a new interface but then it looks the same when calling someone. Can't comment on the Yellow Pages thing since I think it's not working on this build.
- The app drawer icons are way too big and since some icons weren't made with such a high resolution, the consistency seems off.
I can't comment on the NFC part because it didn't seem to work on this build.
Anyway, yeah, the bland, grey colours are really bothering me. It looks very soul-less but I think I just need to get used to it.
Flashing another 4.4 rom now and see if that's better

There is an entire thread for discussing 4.4..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2486641

styckx said:
There is an entire thread for discussing 4.4..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507423
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Yes, I know but I thought it would be good to have a separate thread for impressions considering that thread started off as a speculation thread. And now that it's out, impressions from users using Kitkat would be beneficial for people looking for information about Kitkat

Am I the only one that is disappointed? The changes are minor. Nothing big.
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Orry520 said:
Am I the only one that is disappointed? The changes are minor. Nothing big.
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this is it..i myself didn't have much expectation.. kit-kat wasn't a Major Upgrade..actually (and unfortunately)
from android 4_4.4 there's no big improvement.. i think android 5 will be the real upgrade..

Dark Fear said:
this is it..i myself didn't have much expectation.. kit-kat wasn't a Major Upgrade..actually (and unfortunately)
from android 4_4.4 there's no big improvement.. i think android 5 will be the real upgrade..
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Have you ran it long enough to notice battery life is great compared to 4.3?
Google now integrated into the launcher?
Performance is same as 4.3 and has no optimizations as of yet?
Transitions are very smooth.
Overall this is a great upgrade from 4.3, most people are just not looking at the right parts of the ROM to notice it is greater.
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Not enough changes, this that...what you want? A hologram hooker that says suckysucky $5..its 2013 not 2023
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"Also, please specify if you're using the OTA update or a Nexus 5 4.4 variant"? There is no OTA for now.

What are the odds we get touchboost fixed?
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The performance is very good, it benchmark better than stock 4.3 for me. The interaction response doesn't change, but it try to make the transition smoother like with iOS. Overall a very good update, visibly it has more to do with gapps integration. I think it persuade me to stick with the Nexus 4 instead of upgrading right now.
If you don't think there are enough change, stay with 4.3, don't update to 4.4.

Jposton said:
Google now integrated into the launcher?
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Actually it's the other way around, the launcher is integrated into Google Now.

I found a hidden feature. Say "ok, NSA" and it will do all sort's of things you'll never know =)
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I really wish the lock screen had the transparent nav and status bars too, looks so silly when they disappear without so much as a fade animation when the phone is unlocked

Say.."bombs away nsa".. You get to watch live drone strikes in Afghanistan, don't worry about watching shoeless peasents being killed because there will be reassuring propaganda adverts before and after assuring you that it's helping women and children in Muslim countries.

Comparing 4.4 with 4.3 right now is stupid, we don't even have the updated binaries yet... judge it when its complete, not while it must still be considered a hackjob (and calling it that is not an attempt to diminish the efforts of the people who built the ROM with the older binaries).
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jadephyre said:
Comparing 4.4 with 4.3 right now is stupid, we don't even have the updated binaries yet... judge it when its complete, not while it must still be considered a hackjob (and calling it that is not an attempt to diminish the efforts of the people who built the ROM with the older binaries).
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i was just about to write the same thing, thanks

my battery life is worse than 4.3 but I'm guessing its because of a poorly built because not all sources have been released yet.

vickpick said:
my battery life is worse than 4.3 but I'm guessing its because of a poorly built because not all sources have been released yet.
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Once you're using an official 4.4 build you'll find the opposite is true. Right now all people are using is a mocked up 4.4 using the 3.4 kernel. After some research many people claim that the 3.4 kernel is the worst power efficient version in recent history...An official 4.4 build uses either 3.8 or 3.10 if I'm not mistaken.

RealiZms said:
Once you're using an official 4.4 build you'll find the opposite is true. Right now all people are using is a mocked up 4.4 using the 3.4 kernel. After some research many people claim that the 3.4 kernel is the worst power efficient version in recent history...An official 4.4 build uses either 3.8 or 3.10 if I'm not mistaken.
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So can we use 4.3 Kernels with these early builds?

You know I see slot of speculation on an update that is not even released yet for this device. No kernel, no binaries, no nothing at all. Yet people complain.
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Will CM support the One?

Hello folks.. i'm thinking of getting the HTC One. I'm really in love with it but i'm a rom junkie. As you know HTC One X got the official CM support 6 months later what do you think about the One? Will it get the CM on time or like 5 or 6 months later as One X?
Ask to CM team as they are the only person who can precisely answer
Send from my S3 (2nd HTC one goes for replacement)
Yet they are the ones who push us back to this forum and say "if we will support something then it will be HERE in the forums"
So I think he should ask here and just maybe one of the cm devs will give us an answer
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Koush has stated he is willing to maintain it when s-off is available for the device.
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There will be unofficial ports, doesn't matter if they officially support the device or not.
We will have CyanogenMod
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^ and lose all tweaks find to the camera. Why not get a nexus
mettleh3d said:
^ and lose all tweaks find to the camera. Why not get a nexus
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I know I like HTC devices too much to get a nexus. Its a surprise I have this one.
The camera tweaks are all software related, it just processes the image after you shoot it. So the camera will be almost as good
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superchilpil said:
I know I like HTC devices too much to get a nexus. Its a surprise I have this one.
The camera tweaks are all software related, it just processes the image after you shoot it. So the camera will be almost as good
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The software is what sets it apart
Losing camera will be a huge blow
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Wouldn't you be able to keep the camera and just change the rest?
The real question is when will the HTC One gain S-OFF
I really like the hardware of the HTC unit I dont like the home button on the S4 but without S-off and a commit from CM officially supporting id be real hesitant and may go with the S4 but I really am torn
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Wouldn't you be able to keep the camera and just change the rest?
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Aosp camera offers limited control. The only thing I miss from touchwiz is the camera. I absolutely hate aosp camera but it launches faster than 3rd party cams
mettleh3d said:
Aosp camera offers limited control. The only thing I miss from touchwiz is the camera. I absolutely hate aosp camera but it launches faster than 3rd party cams
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Bingo all the cool features gone with cm this phone awesome why would you want ruin it
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You don't have to be S-OFF to get CM... Only koush did say that he will support it if it's S-OFF but take my word. If nobody here make's a CM port after a month I get my HTC One then I'll make one even if I'm not a AOSP fan at all. Sense all the way!!
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The real question is when will the HTC One gain S-OFF
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I just saw that Codeworkx is getting the One... So yeah, I expect there will be CM love for the One. Though like many say, I don't think it's worth it just yet. But when Android 5.0/KLP hits us, it will be hard to resist a CM11 build if available..
source: codeworkx.de (3rd of 4th post)
Koush has ordered the unlocked developer version (x2), so he will be supporting CM for sure.
And as for the S4, team Hacksung has already said they *wont* be supporting it, so don't expect that to be better.
In the end, as many have said, both devices will get CM, whether official or not. But why you would want to lose great features like Zoe and the new gallery I don't know. Just install Nova or Apex launcher, and Sense will be out of your face 90% of the time while keeping access to the good bits.
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kuroneko007 said:
Koush has ordered the unlocked developer version (x2), so he will be supporting CM for sure.
And as for the S4, team Hacksung has already said they *wont* be supporting it, so don't expect that to be better.
In the end, as many have said, both devices will get CM, whether official or not. But why you would want to lose great features like Zoe and the new gallery I don't know. Just install Nova or Apex launcher, and Sense will be out of your face 90% of the time while keeping access to the good bits.
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It's not about JellyBean i won't even consider flashing another JB rom on Sense 5. But Key Lime Pie is on the horizon and i can't resist to give it a try. KLP is going to be awesome and most of us will want to get it. But we all know we won't be getting the official update before at least 6 or more months.
Yes HTC is a weird bird slow as hell to get official anything. ie thunder bolt. With this 4 Meg ultra camera I see the support for that being unrealistic ie 3d no one ever got that to work.
I am a fan of the hardware and once again do not like physical buttons like coming on the GS4 . I am spoiled from my g nexus.
But am still torn between these two device one or gs4
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Paleryder said:
Yes HTC is a weird bird slow as hell to get official anything. ie thunder bolt. With this 4 Meg ultra camera I see the support for that being unrealistic ie 3d no one ever got that to work.
I am a fan of the hardware and once again do not like physical buttons like coming on the GS4 . I am spoiled from my g nexus.
But am still torn between these two device one or gs4
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I'm with you dude, i don't like the button layout either but compare to sgs4's design it's waaay better. And i prefer 5" display over the One's 4.7" but i hate Samsung's cheap plastic feel that's why i'm sticking with the HTC One.
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Android 5.0 KLP. What do you want out of it?

What does everyone want out of the newest major version of Android what do we want removed from it I thought I would start this thread just to see peoples opinions of key lime pie.
Nexus 4 CyanogenMod 10.1.0
Don't mean to be rude. However there is already a thread on this.
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Apparently what Google want from it is support for older or less powerful devices as that's what they're concentrating on (or so the rumours go so far), it's supposedly going to run well on any device with 512MB or more.
-Better battery management
-Major UI overhaul (Holo is a bit gloomy)
-The ability to sync app data across multiple devices.
-"Guest mode", multiuser with restricted access.
-Last but not least, the ability to summon demons at will
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-Money?!
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-Peace in the world...
I hope that Google devs will rush to this thread just to take our ideas, wants and needs for KLP as clearly in your logic they haven't planned anything yet and most likely this is not in the pipeline of Android development.
And also I don't have anything against threads like this just I don't really think there's a purpose to discuss what we would like to have - we will get what Google has planned for us.
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-Better battery management
-Major UI overhaul (Holo is a bit gloomy)
-The ability to sync app data across multiple devices.
-"Guest mode", multiuser with restricted access.
-Last but not least, the ability to summon demons at will
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Well there is a mod to summon demons just travel to the 7th level of hell and connect your phone to Satan's computer and do the ADB push command it's still in Beta so I would be careful
Nexus 4 CyanogenMod 10.1.0
Yaaaay, another thread about 5.0 when 4.3 is not even out yet. How delightful.
only one thing
0 BUGS
Smoothness, battery compsumption improvement and bug-free
Use the already existing thread please
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Android 5.0 (keylime pie?) Countdown thread
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Kit Kat

Seeing Google owns Motorola what do you think the wait time would be for Kit Kat? Seeing the X has yet to see 4.3 I have a sinking feeling it might be awhile.
There are phones that have been out a lot longer that don't have 4.3... And 4.3 is in the testing stages... Be patient it has only been 2 months... They're still doing bug fixes... And with 4.4 right around the corner they may or may not just move to that.
Motorola doesn't get special privileges for android. They get access when everyone else does.
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There are phones that have been out a lot longer that don't have 4.3... And 4.3 is in the testing stages... Be patient it has only been 2 months... They're still doing bug fixes... And with 4.4 right around the corner they may or may not just move to that.
Motorola doesn't get special privileges for android. They get access when everyone else does.
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Being that its very close to stock Android, however, should make the upgrades a little more seamless. Theres not much to change except the specific Android functions, which might be there anyways like the touchless stuff.
icase81 said:
Being that its very close to stock Android, however, should make the upgrades a little more seamless. Theres not much to change except the specific Android functions, which might be there anyways like the touchless stuff.
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Don't forget the software optimizations Moto did for this device to last waaaaaaay longer then a Nexus 4 can.
hulfordpaul said:
Seeing Google owns Motorola what do you think the wait time would be for Kit Kat? Seeing the X has yet to see 4.3 I have a sinking feeling it might be awhile.
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Being that we still don't have 4.3 I think it will be 2-3 months before we see kit Kat, at an absolute minimum.
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phositadc said:
Being that we still don't have 4.3 I think it will be 2-3 months before we see kit Kat, at an absolute minimum.
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Don't forget carriers holding it back *cough* verizon *cough*
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I'm with everyone else on this. Could be a while, especially if you're on VZW. Hoping the developer community kicks into high gear here pretty soon and we start seeing 4.3 ROM's well before it is an official OTA. Same for Kit Kat.
My question is: is there really a need for the update? Granted, I do want wish to install some apps that only work only with 4.3. But they are not that necessary.
With the leaks about 4.4, printing and payment option, seriously, do you really need those things?
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My question is: is there really a need for the update? Granted, I do want wish to install some apps that only work only with 4.3. But they are not that necessary.
With the leaks about 4.4, printing and payment option, seriously, do you really need those things?
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Ok...you can stay on 4.2.2 while everyone else updates...what's the point of having a smart phone if you don't want it to be updated?
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Ok...you can stay on 4.2.2 while everyone else updates...what's the point of having a smart phone if you don't want it to be updated?
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hahahaha, that's my way to calm myself down. Of course I wanna update...but they do not do what I want for so long so I have learned to be content
freeintruth said:
hahahaha, that's my way to calm myself down. Of course I wanna update...but they do not do what I want for so long so I have learned to be content
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Don't forget a lot of the updates are also under the hood optimizations that make the phone run better. Also there are some UI changes. I personally like what I saw from the leaked images today. I'm sick of the cyan blue throughout. I will like the white status bar icons much more. Good for you for being content lol. Personally I want 4.4 now even though having the vzw moto x I will probably never see it as an official ota
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Don't forget a lot of the updates are also under the hood optimizations that make the phone run better. Also there are some UI changes. I personally like what I saw from the leaked images today. I'm sick of the cyan blue throughout. I will like the white status bar icons much more. Good for you for being content lol. Personally I want 4.4 now even though having the vzw moto x I will probably never see it as an official ota
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roms are always jank unless they are nexus roms. and even then there seems to be a fight nowadays for the current binaries. for me... i want to update. i want it now. but as long as my phone is running smooth as silk.... i can wait. back in the gingerbread days... things were a bit different.
At least 4.4 will apparently already come with a transparent nav bar; There's one to scratch off the to-do list for Motorola
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At least 4.4 will apparently already come with a transparent nav bar; There's one to scratch off the to-do list for Motorola
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Motorola... Google... Is there still a difference?
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Moto x on VZW-with kitkat that would take at least 5 months from when kitkat is on a nexus
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I've learned my lesson with non nexus phones lol. Don't expect any timely updates. I'm just gonna pick up a Nexus 5 to mess with the newest software and development. Even if development finally picks up with this phone the only good Roms (at least for me) will be the Roms based off stock and that means I'll have to wait until an official 4.4. So to curb my need for rooting and flashing I'll just use a nexus lol.
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Motorola... Google... Is there still a difference?
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Maybe the fact that they are still two different companies?
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Maybe the fact that they are still two different companies?
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Growing pains? I'm sure things will get better with time.
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They are pushing more and more system stuff into the Play Store, and the Moto X is about as well optimized for that as can be, so at least we have that. As much as I love the AOSP I'd be happy if Googlrola pushed everything but the kernel into play services, at least for their phones.
This phone is breaking my crackflashing habit, which is probably good for me, my career, and my family.
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I have a feeling that once developers start writing more roms for the Moto X, we'll get in a nice groove in terms of latest versions of Android. Whether or not it's stock-based, PA, CM, or OmniRom remains to be seen though

[AVAILABLE][OCCAM:KTU84L] A bunch of Android 4.4.3 "Fixes" leaked

Breaking News!!!
Beginning June 2, the Nexus 4 received a software update to Android 4.4.3/ Build version KTU84L.
Source: https://t-mobile.jive-mobile.com/#jive-document?content=/api/core/v2/documents/5034
http://mobilesyrup.com/2014/06/02/android-4-4-3-beginning-its-nexus-rollout-today/
occam (KTU84L): https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#occamktu84l
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Below is a list of some of the fixes that will be included in the update:
•Frequent data connection dropout fix
•mm-qcamera-daemon crash and optimization fixes
•Camera focus in regular and HDR modes fixes
•Power Manager display wakelock fix
•Multiple Bluetooth fixes
•Fix for a random reboot
•App shortcuts sometimes got removed from launcher after
update
•USB debugging security fix
•App shortcuts security fix
•Wi-Fi auto-connect fix
•Other camera fixes
•MMS, Email/Exchange, Calendar, People/Dialer/Contacts, DSP,
IPv6, VPN fixes
•Stuck in activation screen fix
•Missed call LED fix
•Subtitle fixes
•Data usage graph fix
•Internet telephony fix
•FCC compliance fix
•Miscellaneous fixes
Even the network bar icon
Are you excited about any of these upcoming fixes?
Source: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...-here-is-what-you-should-expect-to-see-fixed/
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Google tipped to have massively improved Android camera app intesting
The upcoming release of the Android camera app will feature refreshed user interface. Today’s increasingly popular background-blurring, portrait-friendly effect will be on board too, joined by improved panorama and Photo Sphere modes.
Support for third party filters is also said to be present.
Google has also reportedly resolved the photo framing issues of the stock Android camera app. The upcoming update will allow users to capture photos with no-crop viewfinder, which will allow them to see exactly what the final result will be.
Read more: http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/01/google-new-android-camera-app/
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http://support.sprint.com/support/a...AndUpdateTheSoftwareVersionOnYourGoogleNexus5
Fixes, not features. But yes, we do need these fixes ha
All i need is Autofocus fix....god damn AOSP Camera, can't change focus mode to Auto and Focus length to Infinite
Wow they adressed like 40 bug reports out of the 22000 they have on the pubilc bug tracker alone.
And in Android 4.5 they add fancy features for marketing adding 500 new bugs!
user822 said:
Wow they adressed like 40 bug reports out of the 22000 they have on the pubilc bug tracker alone.
And in Android 4.5 they add fancy features for marketing adding 500 new bugs!
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Feel free to adopt one of the more "user friendly" OS's.
Looking forward to trying this out.
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I wonder if the FCC compliance fix is to kill LTE in the N4 again.
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I wonder if the FCC compliance fix is to kill LTE in the N4 again.
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Google has other things to do than to focus on a pesky issue. Only a small number of users who know how or willing to tweak their system just to gain LTE.
I hope we'll get some further development of ART!
4.4.3 are just bug fixes for Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 (2013). source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...to-a-Nexus-5-or-Nexus-7-2013-near-you_id54536
But knowing our devs, it'll probably take less than a week after the code release before all our custom ROMs will be updated using the latest source.
We should be more excited for 4.5 somewhere in June-July along with the Nexus 8.
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4.4.3 are just bug fixes for Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 (2013). source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...to-a-Nexus-5-or-Nexus-7-2013-near-you_id54536
But knowing our devs, it'll probably take less than a week after the code release before all our custom ROMs will be updated using the latest source.
We should be more excited for 4.5 somewhere in June-July along with the Nexus 8.
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Of course if we will get it for our N4
I hope the camera bug when using snapchat is gone..
uchihakurtz said:
4.4.3 are just bug fixes for Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 (2013). source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...to-a-Nexus-5-or-Nexus-7-2013-near-you_id54536
But knowing our devs, it'll probably take less than a week after the code release before all our custom ROMs will be updated using the latest source.
We should be more excited for 4.5 somewhere in June-July along with the Nexus 8.
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Nexus 4 will be in the eol "18month period" by next android version
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Nexus 4 will be in the eol "18month period" by next android version
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If we look at the releases order, nexus 7 2012 should be the nexus that loses the support first. But they should increase the time, just look at S2 how many updates has got and it';s not a nexus.
Hope it does come to the N4, as I'm having major BT issues at the moment. Surely the 18months should start at end of production as well?
So no fix for headset microphone volume issues? I know they may ignore us, but considering Nexus 5 having the very same issue, it seems a little bit strange...
I was just stating that it would probably be the excuse from Google. I sure as hell hope our phone will get the update as well. Mine is not even a year old, still got 6months warranty
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Nexus 4 will be in the eol "18month period" by next android version
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Last time they made some excuse regarding Ti/OMAP processor. This time being a snapdragon thats also used in Nexus 7, I don't see any reason for non release of update. We should all in fact assume we will get the official update. Google need to look at Apple's support of old devices like iPhone 4 and get a damn clue.
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Last time they made some excuse regarding Ti/OMAP processor. This time being a snapdragon thats also used in Nexus 7, I don't see any reason for non release of update. We should all in fact assume we will get the official update. Google need to look at Apple's support of old devices like iPhone 4 and get a damn clue.
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Yeah, they should gimp the update, not include new features, and make the phone laggy. That's totally what Google should do.
No thanks. I'd rather get no update(or just get unofficial updates via ROMs) than get an official update that bogs the phone down.
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Yeah, now the difference it's just a higher frequencies to make a equality between the higher resolutions and a little bit faster memory.We should definetly lose the support at the same time with nexus 7 2013 which has the same processor on a higher resolution which means worse performance in games especially. They have no excuse now ....
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Last time they made some excuse regarding Ti/OMAP processor. This time being a snapdragon thats also used in Nexus 7, I don't see any reason for non release of update.
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That is a clocked down Snapdragon 600. I suspected the 18 months period might have been the reason to go with this one internally instead of the S4 Pro.
Worst case is still that they keep the ancient linux because Qualcomm's mess is so huge they don't have a chance to support a newer kernel. But it might happen because the S4 Pro is in so many devices.

Why Android 5?

I am the only one not interested in upgrading to Lollipop? I'm a big fan of Xposed, especially App Settings, as I do not like the standard DPI.
With the introduction of ART runtime, Xposed does not work. It does not look that likely that it will work anytime soon. This is have a big impact on my ability to customize my N910H.
I'm also a big fan of app settings, but that won't affect me changing the dpi, everything can be modded manually and flashed just like older days and enjoy the lower dpi values
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bala_gamer said:
I'm also a big fan of app settings, but that won't affect me changing the dpi, everything can be modded manually and flashed just like older days and enjoy the lower dpi values
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Thanks. I've admired your mods from my Note 2 days. As I haven't seen any DPI modded apps for the Note 4 I was getting concerned.
So you think that setting the system to, say, 420DPI, will not be a problem? Modded apps will appear for In Call UI, Lockscreen, Calc etc etc?
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Thanks. I've admired your mods from my Note 2 days. As I haven't seen any DPI modded apps for the Note 4 I was getting concerned.
So you think that setting the system to, say, 420DPI, will not be a problem? Modded apps will appear for In Call UI, Lockscreen, Calc etc etc?
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yes, it can be done. without xposed manual mods will be back in action
SO how does one change the dpi for apps without app settings?
I just need it for root explorer, gmail and chrome.
I imagine A5 will give us a bit more smooth trip with TW. Not even Samsung can mishandle A5 that much I hope I love xposed but I love a smooth and micro lag free ride even more.
my estimate is that when the big manufacturers (samsung/lg/motorola/etc) all finish updating their mid to top range smartphones to lollipop(lets say in samsung case for example: S4, note 3, S5, note 4) exposed will come with it as well. right now maybe 0.1% of all android devices have android 5.0, so I can see why the dev working on it taking his time as there is simply not high enough demand for it. (one of the reason i'm not upgrading to 5.0 too atm)
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my estimate is that when the big manufacturers (samsung/lg/motorola/etc) all finish updating their mid to top range smartphones to lollipop(lets say in samsung case for example: S4, note 3, S5, note 4) exposed will come with it as well. right now maybe 0.1% of all android devices have android 5.0, so I can see why the dev working on it taking his time as there is simply not high enough demand for it. (one of the reason i'm not upgrading to 5.0 too atm)
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From what I've read it might be impossible to get ART working with xposed. I too am happy to wait, but we might never get xposed with A5
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Hell I'm bored to death with Android honestly
liquidguru said:
I am the only one not interested in upgrading to Lollipop? I'm a big fan of Xposed, especially App Settings, as I do not like the standard DPI.
With the introduction of ART runtime, Xposed does not work. It does not look that likely that it will work anytime soon. This is have a big impact on my ability to customize my N910H.
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I am also very happy with Android 4.4.4, its got very little bugs, incredibly stable and efficient, all I want is further optimising of power usage and app optimisation, thats all I ask for, but hey, this is how tech works, got to moving, and the great thing in 5.0 is ART, apps should run faster, better audio, better memory management, etc etc...I am not in a rush, I am glad we will be getting 5.0.1 and not the buggy 5.0
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I am also very happy with Android 4.4.4, its got very little bugs, incredibly stable and efficient, all I want is further optimising of power usage and app optimisation, thats all I ask for, but hey, this is how tech works, got to moving, and the great thing in 5.0 is ART, apps should run faster, better audio, better memory management, etc etc...I am not in a rush, I am glad we will be getting 5.0.1 and not the buggy 5.0
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Yep agree on that. Lollipop definately has some improvements over 4.4.4. Although 4.4.4 is really running perfectly.
I will be looking forward to 5.1 though, as 5.0.1 is not yet perfect...still has some bugs.
I thought I was the only one thinking like this because all I've been seeing is hype ? but reading through your comments got me thinking about actually upgrading to Lollipop... I love Xposed to the point I can't live without it but if 5.0.1 is THAT great... Idk anymore.
Also, does anyone know if there's an official forum or something here on xda for all this xposed situation?
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caaanaya said:
I thought I was the only one thinking like this because all I've been seeing is hype ? but reading through your comments got me thinking about actually upgrading to Lollipop... I love Xposed to the point I can't live without it but if 5.0.1 is THAT great... Idk anymore.
Also, does anyone know if there's an official forum or something here on xda for all this xposed situation?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52288979&postcount=3
alirey said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52288979&postcount=3
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Thanks!!
caaanaya said:
I thought I was the only one thinking like this because all I've been seeing is hype ? but reading through your comments got me thinking about actually upgrading to Lollipop... I love Xposed to the point I can't live without it but if 5.0.1 is THAT great... Idk anymore.
Also, does anyone know if there's an official forum or something here on xda for all this xposed situation?
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I'm sure A5 will be great, but sure that that it will great enough to give up xposed, at least until there are alternatives for tweaking the UI. Xposed has its own forum on XDA. At present there doesn't seem much hope for getting it to work with A5.
Edit: Here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed
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liquidguru said:
I am the only one not interested in upgrading to Lollipop? I'm a big fan of Xposed, especially App Settings, as I do not like the standard DPI.
With the introduction of ART runtime, Xposed does not work. It does not look that likely that it will work anytime soon. This is have a big impact on my ability to customize my N910H.
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I was using xposed on my stock rooted rom but had a huge battery drain, didn't find out why, anyway i started using X-Note on my N910H and its amazing, multi dpi without xposed, no battery drain and lots and lots of mods, amazing rom, i have no complaints at all :fingers-crossed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/development/xnote-v3-0-n910c-port-t2977944
Lollipop is awesome. I just put it on my mates sm-n910f, and we were looking at Google cardboard vr apps....
They were running at close to TWICE!! the frame rate that they were running at on KitKat touchwiz. Unbelievable.
The UI is noticeably much smoother too. Highly recommended. More than that, it's an absolute must have IMO..
I've got it on my s4 also, and there's not a thing I can do with it to make it skip a single frame anywhere. Love it.
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Lollipop is awesome. I just put it on my mates sm-n910f, and we were looking at Google cardboard vr apps....
They were running at close to TWICE!! the frame rate that they were running at on KitKat touchwiz. Unbelievable.
The UI is noticeably much smoother too. Highly recommended. More than that, it's an absolute must have IMO..
I've got it on my s4 also, and there's not a single thing I can do that will make it skip a single frame anywhere. Love it.
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Thanks. I hope there will be similar benefits when it hits our N4.

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