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Can't Root my xperia Z1??

Hello..I just had my Xperia Z1 updated to the latest firmware 14.1.G.2.257 and tried over and over to root it using vRoot, 360root and Kingo root but with all the result is "Root failed"!!.can anyone help me to root my device on this firmware? Thanks
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You cannot root this firmware
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If you have read the numerous threads before updating, you'll find out that the old methods no longer work as Sony closed the root exploit in the new update.
The "longer" way of rooting the 257 firmware can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440408

today 360root was updated.
dunno if it added support ?

cocchiararo said:
today 360root was updated.
dunno if it added support ?
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i just tried, it didn't work............my z1 come with 257, cann't root now...........

hikarumk2 said:
i just tried, it didn't work............my z1 come with 257, cann't root now...........
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What Android version do you have? What model number is your phone?

This thread is super old... Only .534 can be rooted, then you can OTA update to .257
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TagEHeuer said:
What Android version do you have? What model number is your phone?
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mine is sony z1 running 4.2.2(257), the problem is sony OTAing the newest version 290, so i couldn't downgreat to the old version than ota update to 257

hikarumk2 said:
mine is sony z1 running 4.2.2(257), the problem is sony OTAing the newest version 290, so i couldn't downgreat to the old version than ota update to 257
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Downgrade to .534, root and then upgrade OTA.
Download the file here: https://mega.co.nz/#!K1QD1bSK!JkgNvz3Tqb6lq4brVUEyZGraOjMQuTuzn8IaEFhQhUI (ftf file for .534 firmware)
Use flashtool to downgrade it ( untick wipe data/cache/appslogs )
Then root it with vroot or something else.
Then it will prompt you to download .257, doing do it OTA not through your PC

TagEHeuer said:
Downgrade to .534, root and then upgrade OTA.
Download the file here: (ftf file for .534 firmware)
Use flashtool to downgrade it ( untick wipe data/cache/appslogs )
Then root it with vroot or something else.
Then it will prompt you to download .257, doing do it OTA not through your PC
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sony is telling me to update to .290 now, will it tell me to update to .257 after i downgraded to .534? or keep telling me update to .290?

hikarumk2 said:
sony is telling me to update to .290 now, will it tell me to update to .257 after i downgraded to .534? or keep telling me update to .290?
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It will tell you to update to 290.
However, if your bootloader is unlock-able, backup TA partition then unlock it, then install a recovery and flash Supersu flashable zip, then flash stock kernel and then restore TA partition.
Regards,
~J2C

by than 4.4 is out..

Gettin abit confused now with all this root, bootloader, 4.3 stuff.
am still on 257 (rooted), i have the 4.3 OTA notice but i know if i update ill lose root (maybe partial root). ive heard that 4.3 can be rooted but requires unlocking the bootloader. when i go into the service menu it says: Bootloader unlock allowed: NO.
does this mean its not possible for me to root 4.3 at the moment.
if not then whats the limitation on Partial root, i dont do anything particular advance with root, just get certian apps (greenify, ad-away, autohide softkeys) can these apps still function properly on Partial root?
sorry i know these questions have been asked elsewhere but its pain trying to look through the many many threads or looking through about 60 pages on 1 thread.

Tonian1878 said:
Gettin abit confused now with all this root, bootloader, 4.3 stuff.
am still on 257 (rooted), i have the 4.3 OTA notice but i know if i update ill lose root (maybe partial root). ive heard that 4.3 can be rooted but requires unlocking the bootloader. when i go into the service menu it says: Bootloader unlock allowed: NO.
does this mean its not possible for me to root 4.3 at the moment.
if not then whats the limitation on Partial root, i dont do anything particular advance with root, just get certian apps (greenify, ad-away, autohide softkeys) can these apps still function properly on Partial root?
sorry i know these questions have been asked elsewhere but its pain trying to look through the many many threads or looking through about 60 pages on 1 thread.
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Bootloader unlock allowed: NO means you can't unlock bootloader.
Partial root doesn't allow you to edit anything in the /system or in the root /.
Anything that edits system won't work (Probably autohide softkeys probably won't work. But it might work if you installed it before updating).
Regards,
~J2C

Just2Cause said:
Bootloader unlock allowed: NO means you can't unlock bootloader.
Partial root doesn't allow you to edit anything in the /system or in the root /.
Anything that edits system won't work (Probably autohide softkeys probably won't work. But it might work if you installed it before updating).
Regards,
~J2C
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cool. Thanks.
so is the no hack to force bootloader to unlock?
sorry if some questions seem stupid. was an iOS person until i got the z1. use to think jailbreaking was a nightmare but its a blessing in comparison to rooting Android or more specifically the z1.

Tonian1878 said:
so is the no hack to force bootloader to unlock?
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Not yet. That may be ways out though, if it's ever possible.

Just2Cause said:
It will tell you to update to 290.
However, if your bootloader is unlock-able, backup TA partition then unlock it, then install a recovery and flash Supersu flashable zip, then flash stock kernel and then restore TA partition.
Regards,
~J2C
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oh, someone said that to do backup TA i have to root first, is that true?

Yes.
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hikarumk2 said:
oh, someone said that to do backup TA i have to root first, is that true?
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Yes, and the solution is simple, flash stock 534 and root it with kingo root or vroot or whatever way you may want to use. Then backup TA easily.
Regards,
~J2C

I have C6903
Build 14.2.A.1.136
when rooting it goes to the screen where it reset my data and it ends and vroot shows error, can anyone direct me to the corrected way? Thanks

Downgrade is possible?

Hi guys,
I have z1 and want to root but system is 14.1.g.2.257... There is any way for downgrade or root?
PS: bootloader unlocked.

Just flash older firmware tft using flashtool and then u can root .543 and ota update to .254.
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Jimvest said:
Just flash older firmware tft using flashtool and then u can root .543 and ota update to .254.
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Any link for 543 tft file?

kartal172 said:
Any link for 543 tft file?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2469191

dawen said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2469191
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My stock id is 1276-0873 R8A... But there is not?
Possible resume with any? (example : C6903 14.1.G.1.534 Central Europe1276-4314_R2A)

kartal172 said:
My stock id is 1276-0873 R8A... But there is not?
Possible resume with any? (example : C6903 14.1.G.1.534 Central Europe1276-4314_R2A)
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I did it! Thanks guyz! Used C6903 14.1.G.1.534 Central Europe1276-4314_R2A and rooted via flashtool!

kartal172 said:
My stock id is 1276-0873 R8A... But there is not?
Possible resume with any? (example : C6903 14.1.G.1.534 Central Europe1276-4314_R2A)
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Which country are you from?

No need to do any of that if your boot loader is unlocked. Just flash a custom kernel.
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gregbradley said:
No need to do any of that if your boot loader is unlocked. Just flash a custom kernel.
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For downgrading firmware version? That's not really a good choice, flashing with a tft file is clearly better, flashing a custom kernel can hard brick your phone, avoid your warranty and can't be restored with SUS and PCC...

QualQuek said:
For downgrading firmware version? That's not really a good choice, flashing with a tft file is clearly better, flashing a custom kernel can hard brick your phone, avoid your warranty and can't be restored with SUS and PCC...
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No, he asked how to root. If he has already unlocked the bootloader then the simplest way to root is flash a custom kernel. Warranty is already broken and what is the point in unlocking the bootloader unless you are going to flash a custom kernel anyway

gregbradley said:
No, he asked how to root. If he has already unlocked the bootloader then the simplest way to root is flash a custom kernel. Warranty is already broken and what is the point in unlocking the bootloader unless you are going to flash a custom kernel anyway
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Yeah but flashing a custom kernel is not necessary for having root on the latest firmware.

QualQuek said:
Yeah but flashing a custom kernel is not necessary for having root on the latest firmware.
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No its not, but its the easiest way to get root if you have already unlocked.
And please tell me the point of unlocking if you are not going to flash a custom kernel.
Its harmless as long as you flash the correct kernel. It carries the same risk as flashing anything.

Ah... i lost the camera guyz. It seems working, opening but when i try capture then frozing system.... Any ideas?
Locked bootloader via Flashtool but same... Need re flash a rom?

kartal172 said:
Ah... i lost the camera guyz. It seems working, opening but when i try capture then frozing system.... Any ideas?
Locked bootloader via Flashtool but same... Need re flash a rom?
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Any suggestions about that issue?

kartal172 said:
Any suggestions about that issue?
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Go to Settings -> Apps -> find your Camera app ->Clear data

hush66 said:
Go to Settings -> Apps -> find your Camera app ->Clear data
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Nope, same again. Freezing app when i click get a shoot button. Tried via diagnostic but there is working as well...
Another suggestion guyz?

kartal172 said:
Nope, same again. Freezing app when i click get a shoot button. Tried via diagnostic but there is working as well...
Another suggestion guyz?
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You have downgraded in order to root then to do an OTA upgrade back to .257 if I am right.
In which case, do not worry that the camera does not work in .534, just root it, and upgrade OTA.
Then try the camera.
EDIT
Also you need to clear the data in all camera related apps

gregbradley said:
You have downgraded in order to root then to do an OTA upgrade back to .257 if I am right.
In which case, do not worry that the camera does not work in .534, just root it, and upgrade OTA.
Then try the camera.
EDIT
Also you need to clear the data in all camera related apps
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Sorry but i don't know the terms like this... Im newbie with Xperia... May we can use the links with possible tutorials can helpfull....
Thanks in advance....

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505796

kartal172 said:
Nope, same again. Freezing app when i click get a shoot button. Tried via diagnostic but there is working as well...
Another suggestion guyz?
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Try clearing the data for both the Camera and Camera Common apps under Setting -> Apps -> All.

Am I gonna loose root if I update to 4.3 OTA

Im on .257 FW (rooted)
And I saw 4.3 update available OTA
if I updated am I gonna loose root???
Thanks
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Yes you'd lose full root
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So it's currently not possible to preserve root huh. Is it possible (in any way) to update to .290 with a locked BL and keep data? (or at least all my settings and stuff)

chubby65 said:
Yes you'd lose full root
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Wt ya meant by full root???
I only want root for use lucky patcher and hack poweramp licence thats the only thing I use root for
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I tried updating via the OTA while rooted and the update fails.
I'm using the paid version of SuperSU while in "Survival Mode" with a locked bootloader.
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On some firmwares root will stay after OTA update.
You'll have partial root but that's only what's possible to get on locked bootloaders - for now.
We said that many times before and I see many users still likes to answer wrong.
If you, IF YOU!, manage to update via OTA - your root will stay.
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funky0308 said:
On some firmwares root will stay after OTA update.
You'll have partial root but that's only what's possible to get on locked bootloaders - for now.
We said that many times before and I see many users still likes to answer wrong.
If you, IF YOU!, manage to update via OTA - your root will stay.
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what is partial root

zyclops1 said:
what is partial root
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You can write to system but only from recovery.
Basically you can't copy manually apk or any files to system folders - you have to do that through recovery.
Problem is when system boot, you have administrative rights only in recovery.
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funky0308 said:
You can write to system but only from recovery.
Basically you can't copy manually apk or any files to system folders - you have to do that through recovery.
Problem is when system boot, you have administrative rights only in recovery.
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can i use lucky patcher and viperaudio :silly:

zyclops1 said:
can i use lucky patcher and viperaudio :silly:
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I'm not sure for lucky but all MODs should work.
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funky0308 said:
I'm not sure for lucky but all MODs should work.
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i dont want a recovery also so best choice is to stay on 4.2? eh??

zyclops1 said:
i dont want a recovery also so best choice is to stay on 4.2? eh??
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Well I don't see a point then.
Without recovery you'll not get anything...
I'm using stock 290 without root and it's O.K
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zyclops1 said:
i dont want a recovery also so best choice is to stay on 4.2? eh??
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If you want everything working then just stay on 4.2, if you want to update and you can unlock your bootloader then do it that way, i'm sticking with 4.2 until everything is working as it should.

funky0308 said:
On some firmwares root will stay after OTA update.
You'll have partial root but that's only what's possible to get on locked bootloaders - for now.
We said that many times before and I see many users still likes to answer wrong.
If you, IF YOU!, manage to update via OTA - your root will stay.
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How is it wrong answer?
It's a fact that if you update to 4.3 you WILL lose full root
Unless you CAN unlock your bootloader full root is not available at the moment
That's why I'm back on 4.2 partial root is no good
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I'm currently on 4.2.2. rooted stock rom, locked bl, dualrecovery, (.257 firmware) and xposed installed with some modules activated.
I have an OTA update for 4.3. available but I'd like to know what happens if the update manages to go through? I've read about partial root but that doesn't tell me much. Is there a way to keep full root with supersu pro or voodoo root keeper?
So, what exactly can I do with it or don't?
Will my dualrecovery remain after the update? Or if it's gone, could I install it again with partial root?
The xposed remains as well since it was already present before the upgrade or not?
Can I still use Titanium Backup to backup, delete, freeze, restore apps and data (system apps and user apps)?
Could I gain root via partial root via a startup script which runs automatically at boot (without bl unlock)?
One last question: I really don't get why Android manufacturers don't even bother to at least offer the option to enable root if the user wants this option.
Like there could be an option to enable root and when you tap on it, the system displays severals warnings to inform you about the downsides and potential dangers and if you accept, the system reboots and you have full read/write access/root.
I know about the downsides (malware, etc.) but to me and I believe to many others as well, the benefits outhweigh them by a lot.
Are they just unwilling or is it not that easy to enable and disable?
To me, an Android phone without root feels as limited as a Windows computer without admin rights. It feels so constraint.

chubby65 said:
That's why I'm back on 4.2 partial root is no good
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I am using 4.3 with root, there are several threads which explain how (Q&A for example)

AntiDroid said:
I am using 4.3 with root, there are several threads which explain how (Q&A for example)
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Yeah but that's for unlocked bootloader
Locked bootloader is different and some bootloaders can't be unlocked mate
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chubby65 said:
Yeah but that's for unlocked bootloader
Locked bootloader is different and some bootloaders can't be unlocked mate
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my bad x.x I skipped most of the sentences

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my bad x.x I skipped most of the sentences
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True. I personally can unlock but don't want to because of the warranty.
Can anyone please answer the questions from my previous post? At least some of them? It would help me a lot in deciding if I should upgrade to 4.3. or not.

drsoran2 said:
True. I personally can unlock but don't want to because of the warranty.
Can anyone please answer the questions from my previous post? At least some of them? It would help me a lot in deciding if I should upgrade to 4.3. or not.
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You already lost your warranty by rooting and flashing a dual recovery. Unlocking your BL wouldn't change anything, but backup your TA partition before you do that(search for topics).
I see that your from germany. You should check out the difference between "Garantie und Gewährleistung" (LEO and Google Translate actually say that both mean warranty, but they are NOT the same)
Garantie = warranty for damages "by you" (dropping it for example)
Gewährleistung = warranty for damages which happened because of a sony mistake (
You lose your garantie by rooting/unlocking but the gewährleistung persists because of an european law.
I hope that this information helps you

Rooting help--Bell c6906 (.534)

Hi everyone, sorry if this is redundant at all; I've searched some but haven't found a clear answer to my question.
I just picked up a z1 c6906 that is unlocked from Negri. It looks like the phone was a Bell (Canada) device from the bloatware. I've refused the OTA to .290 with plans to root, and am currently on 14.1.G.1.534
I've read through the rooting guide (thanks NUT), and it looks like .534 is the version that would need to be downgraded to in order to root. As I'm on a .534, would I simply use flashtool to flash a generic version of .534, root it, and then update?
Sorry if this is obvious, I'm used to Nexus devices and don't want to brick this thing. Any help is much appreciated!

Actually you are in a good point, Root now the .534, then update via Flashtool to .290 using NUT method and then again with the same method update to .136 and you are done. Latest FW Rooted.

eclyptos said:
Actually you are in a good point, Root now the .534, then update via Flashtool to .290 using NUT method and then again with the same method update to .136 and you are done. Latest FW Rooted.
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OK, thanks! I just wasn't sure if I needed to switch to generic firmware first, but that shouldn't make a difference I take it?

tom1226 said:
OK, thanks! I just wasn't sure if I needed to switch to generic firmware first, but that shouldn't make a difference I take it?
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No, it won't.

Great, thanks again. Do you have any input in which root method to use? I like that bin4ry's is open and I can read it, but would that work on the c6906 variant?

tom1226 said:
Great, thanks again. Do you have any input in which root method to use? I like that bin4ry's is open and I can read it, but would that work on the c6906 variant?
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Bin4ry is the safest way and recommended to Root .534 firmwares. Yes, if you follow the instruction all will work fine.

eclyptos said:
Bin4ry is the safest way and recommended to Root .534 firmwares. Yes, if you follow the instruction all will work fine.
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Awesome, just used bin4ry and it worked like a charm. I hadn't been sure because it says that c6903 is supported but doesn't mention other variants. Thanks again for your help!
Just curious, if I were to use something like OTA Rootkeeper, could I just use that to temp unroot and reroot taking the OTA's? Or is that a no-no and I need to flash the modified firmwares if I want to update from .534? Thanks again for all of your help.

tom1226 said:
Just curious, if I were to use something like OTA Rootkeeper, could I just use that to temp unroot and reroot taking the OTA's? Or is that a no-no and I need to flash the modified firmwares if I want to update from .534? Thanks again for all of your help.
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Not sure about that but I am sure you can keep root updating via OTA to 257, but then you have to update again to 290 and you can get complications. I saw people doing this process and ending to have a Partial Root. So I think the safest and quick way is just to update directly to .290 with the firmwares from NUT. Same for .136. They are meant to do they job for this purpose.

Ok sounds good, thanks.

Z1 5.1.1 root

Is there a way to root my Z1 on android 5.1?

Giorgos zografos said:
Is there a way to root my Z1 on android 5.1?
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This has been answered many times in other threads. Please search before posting.
No, 5.1 cannot be rooted directly. Root is only possible on 5.1 by flashing a pre-rooted ZIP.

Hi
If you have UB, youcan easily do that
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Same here still waiting for kingroot or anyone know way to root lollipop 5.1.1?.. need root my phone asap bec my phone always overheat.

xasbo said:
This has been answered many times in other threads. Please search before posting.
No, 5.1 cannot be rooted directly. Root is only possible on 5.1 by flashing a pre-rooted ZIP.
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But Flashtool is required root.. =/ my phone still unroot and cant flash rom?

still waiting for root :/

alienx2 said:
But Flashtool is required root.. =/ my phone still unroot and cant flash rom?
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Flashtool doesn't need root privileges.
With flashtool you flash ftf files.
You need flashtool program to flash ftf.
Your phone has to been in flash mode to flash a ftf file. The phone comes with flash mode, that's nothing special. The phone can handle flash mode from build.

agha_jo0n said:
Hi
If you have UB, youcan easily do that
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Just curious, if you are on stock unrooted 5.1.1, how does Unlocking the Bootloader make rooting easier?

spikey001 said:
Just curious, if you are on stock unrooted 5.1.1, how does Unlocking the Bootloader make rooting easier?
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Just flash custom recovery and then flash super user through recovery, that's it
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alienx2 said:
Same here still waiting for kingroot or anyone know way to root lollipop 5.1.1?.. need root my phone asap bec my phone always overheat.
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Overheat ? how ? there is no way... i have never even gotten over 50 Celcius... are you sure you don't have Z3+ ? D

Like what @xasbo said, this has been answered again and again, pls. use the search button.
There are no existing direct rooting method for 5.1.1 at the present time. Use flashtool to flash 4.4.4 or 5.0.2 on you phone then root it then install a custom recovery then flash a pre-rooted 5.1.1 on your phone. That is the only way you have at present if your phone has a locked boot loader.
If your phone has an unlocked bootloader, I believe you fastboot a rooted system.img or something to get root access on your 5.1.1 without the need to downgrade to either 4.4.4 or 5.0.2
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Deathschythe33 said:
Like what @xasbo said, this has been answered again and again, pls. use the search button.
There are no existing direct rooting method for 5.1.1 at the present time. Use flashtool to flash 4.4.4 or 5.0.2 on you phone then root it then install a custom recovery then flash a pre-rooted 5.1.1 on your phone. That is the only way you have at present if your phone has a locked boot loader.
If your phone has an unlocked bootloader, I believe you fastboot a rooted system.img or something to get root access on your 5.1.1 without the need to downgrade to either 4.4.4 or 5.0.2
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I did that but I got an error after flashing
.zip and then flashing the rest of ftf via flashtool except system. I posted the error in the thread of z1 Philippines
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amnher said:
I did that but I got an error after flashing
.zip and then flashing the rest of ftf via flashtool except system. I posted the error in the thread of z1 Philippines
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Ah, yes my apologies I mixed system.img vs. system.sin, if you are making a pre-rooted 5.1.1 use this thread it details how to create a pre-rooted 5.0.2 but it is the same for 5.1.1

migidid said:
Overheat ? how ? there is no way... i have never even gotten over 50 Celcius... are you sure you don't have Z3+ ? D
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Yep it was..and nope Im using Z1 C6903 then now no more overheat bec i did downgraded to kitkat 4.4.4 then installed custom ROM called "iHackers 6.2" without unlocked BL.

alienx2 said:
Yep it was..and nope Im using Z1 C6903 then now no more overheat bec i did downgraded to kitkat 4.4.4 then installed custom ROM called "iHackers 6.2" without unlocked BL.
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Strange, ive been using stock roms since 4.4.2 on my C6903 and never even felt my device being warm, like on samsungs opening chrome alone makes it so hot you cant touch it. but on Z1 noo, there must be something wrong on it.

migidid said:
Strange, ive been using stock roms since 4.4.2 on my C6903 and never even felt my device being warm, like on samsungs opening chrome alone makes it so hot you cant touch it. but on Z1 noo, there must be something wrong on it.
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5.0.2 was okay under control overheat. but 5.1.1 is not. its very worst.