But not on android it seems.
I use flash for movies on my PC fine using Opera.
But despite all the claims, the various browsers, and numerous versions, It really does look like Flash is dead, and adobe has finally killed it.
Certainly on the HP touchpad and most if not all android mobiles anyway.
So whats going on? Anyone ?
I too have read the thousands of blogs (most are copies of each other) with so called alternatives.
Hell even opera has sided with the devil and uses chrome under its hood for its latest PC versions (and its crap).
Thankfully its far better earlier versions still play fine, and are miles better to boot.
But still nothing for android and the myriad of android devices dependent on flash to play streaming vids, games and other good stuff..
And you only have to start typing 'flash' here on xda in a search box to see the many thousands of searches for the same answer.
So it really is an issue for many people.
But what i dont get, is that this community of brilliantly clever programmers / hackers and developers just dont appear to know where to begin to build a working alternative or a working answer. Is this now the end of mankind or just android ?
Surly if there was a solution to be found anywhere it would be here.
But the fact there isnt, and only a very few worthy for trying but useless alternatives are out there, means mankind will continue to have a problem that can only get worse for years to come :crying:
cleverdicky said:
But not on android it seems.
I use flash for movies on my PC fine using Opera.
But despite all the claims, the various browsers, and numerous versions, It really does look like Flash is dead, and adobe has finally killed it.
Certainly on the HP touchpad and most if not all android mobiles anyway.
So whats going on? Anyone ?
I too have read the thousands of blogs (most are copies of each other) with so called alternatives.
Hell even opera has sided with the devil and uses chrome under its hood for its latest PC versions (and its crap).
Thankfully its far better earlier versions still play fine, and are miles better to boot.
But still nothing for android and the myriad of android devices dependent on flash to play streaming vids, games and other good stuff..
And you only have to start typing 'flash' here on xda in a search box to see the many thousands of searches for the same answer.
So it really is an issue for many people.
But what i dont get, is that this community of brilliantly clever programmers / hackers and developers just dont appear to know where to begin to build a working alternative or a working answer. Is this now the end of mankind or just android ?
Surly if there was a solution to be found anywhere it would be here.
But the fact there isnt, and only a very few worthy for trying but useless alternatives are out there, means mankind will continue to have a problem that can only get worse for years to come :crying:
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Flash is dying, let it die gracefully.
To be honest, i'm quite happy. Flash is being replaced with much better options.
But what? Until web creators / developers, provide access to content with other methods, flash and flash plugins are the only means to access it.
Unless there is a way to view flash cont from an android mobile without flash.
Flash is going to die; but not in near future i think... Half ot the World still using outdated browsers and new solutions doesn't mean anything for them. So web developers can't leave Flash that easy...
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Well it wasnt till sometime untill we had root
And from getting root, we were able to flash to a custom built ROM etc..
Also being able to use certain applications like Overclocker,Swapper,Mutitouch Browser and just stuff to make our customs built ROM's better then the stock
And now I'm wondering since we have acess to certain features like Multi Touch, Flash Player etc.
Howcome we don't take advantage of these features
(I'm not a dev or anything and I'm not forcing anyone to do anything at all)
I'm just saying howcome no one has been smart enoguh to do this
Or make a SDK spically suited for Rooted G1's
Why don't the developers of the ROM's and stuff make Games/Apps that can use these features, and then sell them to people who have rooted there G1's for cash.
I would sure fine myself buying these apps and so would (well im pretty sure everyone els) would to
But anyways if this was mentioned before sorry I haven't came across it so yeah
Because it's not that easy? lol
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so u talking like games that the iphone 3gs can handle idk if the g1 is powerful enough for that i know the 3gs has a nvidia graphics card built in ?? but that would be cool to get some games like that if we could just my 2cents
Exactly i'm pretty sure if they worked together or something
or someone dedicated there time to a SDK for rooted G1's
Or an App
They could come across something
If they could make a ROM
I think its very possible for them to make a app
they should have put a graphics card into g1 why not?? i mean just like Intel is gonna make a smart phone with android os they are putting there chip sets in it who knows we prolly will have to buy another phone for that kind of system just like the iphone user's did
are you kidding? have you ever been on the android market before? perhaps you've taken note of all of the apps marked FOR ROOT USERS ONLY, or perhaps the apps developed by people like meltus and lucidrem (who happen to be developers here).
its amazing, no matter what anyone does for people (for FREE, i might add), its never quite enough. so heres a question for YOU:
if its that big of a deal to you, why not learn up and develop them yourself?
The only kinds of apps that really require root are low level utilities, like those mentioned by kusotare... and there are TONS of them. A few are on the market, many are not since the market mainly caters to the typical consumer who doesn't go for root.
Things like GAMES don't need root, so why would you want to restrict them to rooted phones?
Last 2 posters said it all. And as far as flash games they are already out.
I know when to use desktop but is there ever a reason to set my browser to iPhone instead of android? It strikes me as odd that my stock android browser has that option so I became curious...I searched google with no luck. I'm on my phone so I couldn't search xda (something else that strikes me as odd - whole different thread though)
Before android was as popular, some times you would want to use iPhone versions of sites. Now that android is popular enough there are versions for it as well, so not much need anymore.
RogerPodacter said:
Before android was as popular, some times you would want to use iPhone versions of sites. Now that android is popular enough there are versions for it as well, so not much need anymore.
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Simple enough. Thank you
Im planning on customizing my new I9000, any tips for a noobie?
I had been reading a lot of posts here but it kinda made a little bit confused on where to start...
Thanks in advance for all the help guys!!!
customizing what? kernel ?
Hey there,
I got mine about 4 days back and after trying almost all the launchers available, IMHO, the Launcher Pro seems to be the best. I'm still trying all alternatives, but so far I have found nothing that compares with LP.
Do give their free version a try.
Cheers.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Thanks for replying guys, any more tips/advice?
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customizing what? kernel ?
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That's exactly my point, i don't know what to do first, is it like rooting the phone? But i would like to keep some default apps in the phone to stay but totally change the UI...
skiddhard said:
Hey there,
I got mine about 4 days back and after trying almost all the launchers available, IMHO, the Launcher Pro seems to be the best. I'm still trying all alternatives, but so far I have found nothing that compares with LP.
Do give their free version a try.
Cheers.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
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Yeah, Launcher Pro seems to be like a great alternative to TouchWiz...
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Yeah, Launcher Pro seems to be like a great alternative to TouchWiz...
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To your earlier post, none of the launchers need your phone to be rooted or require a custom firmware (thank god for the sake of all noobs ).
On that rooting note, I am still trying to figure out the obvious and apparent advantages of rooting. Had an iPhone from the 2g all the way till the 3gs. It had the jailbreak and the unlock. Is rooting the same as jailbreaking in terms of functionality??
As a side note, see if you can give WidgetLocker a look. The stock Galaxy S lockscreen is boring and too plain for my liking at least. WidgetLocker allows you to put your widgets and icons right on the lockscreen.
Cheers....
skiddhard said:
To your earlier post, none of the launchers need your phone to be rooted or require a custom firmware (thank god for the sake of all noobs ).
On that rooting note, I am still trying to figure out the obvious and apparent advantages of rooting. Had an iPhone from the 2g all the way till the 3gs. It had the jailbreak and the unlock. Is rooting the same as jailbreaking in terms of functionality??
As a side note, see if you can give WidgetLocker a look. The stock Galaxy S lockscreen is boring and too plain for my liking at least. WidgetLocker allows you to put your widgets and icons right on the lockscreen.
Cheers....
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Thanks, great advice there! As for the rooting thing, well I heard they did some custom firmware that fixes the slight lagging thingy. I have had slight lagging when i listen to music and watch movies.. btw my firmware is JG2 (though it says in the Kies that it cannot be further upgraded, i doubt its the latest).
spandsbab said:
Thanks, great advice there! As for the rooting thing, well I heard they did some custom firmware that fixes the slight lagging thingy. I have had slight lagging when i listen to music and watch movies.. btw my firmware is JG2 (though it says in the Kies that it cannot be further upgraded, i doubt its the latest).
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Most welcome.
As for the updates, there are different versions available for different regions. For me in India the upgrade available was JG4. Mine was JG2 out of the box. The new version (JG4) has an inbuilt task manager and a little better performance than the JG2. It fixes a few performance issues from what I have read.
Not really sure how it works, but if you could cheat your system in believing you are in a different location (say India, for eg), perhaps you can get that update too. But do check if its safe pulling off a stunt like that. Check if the phone and the carrier like this at all.
Cheers....
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Most welcome.
As for the updates, there are different versions available for different regions. For me in India the upgrade available was JG4. Mine was JG2 out of the box. The new version (JG4) has an inbuilt task manager and a little better performance than the JG2. It fixes a few performance issues from what I have read.
Not really sure how it works, but if you could cheat your system in believing you are in a different location (say India, for eg), perhaps you can get that update too. But do check if its safe pulling off a stunt like that. Check if the phone and the carrier like this at all.
Cheers....
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I have read it somewhere here in XDA that you can actually do cheat your location and that it is kinda okay to do that but I think you have to root/flash your phone for that... that's the reason I kinda lean towards rooting the phone cause guys here do faster and better job at fixing issues with the phone than Samsung...
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I have read it somewhere here in XDA that you can actually do cheat your location and that it is kinda okay to do that but I think you have to root/flash your phone for that... that's the reason I kinda lean towards rooting the phone cause guys here do faster and better job at fixing issues with the phone than Samsung...
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Been doing some reading on the same thing too. The damn iPhone got me so used to jailbreaking, it seems NOT rooting the android is no fun at all....
Here are a couple of links to get you started I suppose.
/showthread.php?t=746129
/showthread.php?t=739300
Will be using them tonight for myself too. In the mean while, if you get an head start over me, best of luck....
Cheers....
P.S.: The XDA system is not allowing me to enter the complete links. A spam protection mechanism of some kind it seems.
skiddhard said:
Been doing some reading on the same thing too. The damn iPhone got me so used to jailbreaking, it seems NOT rooting the android is no fun at all....
Here are a couple of links to get you started I suppose.
/showthread.php?t=746129
/showthread.php?t=739300
Will be using them tonight for myself too. In the mean while, if you get an head start over me, best of luck....
Cheers....
P.S.: The XDA system is not allowing me to enter the complete links. A spam protection mechanism of some kind it seems.
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Yeah, rooting seems to be a lot more fun as i like tinkering a lot (my PC at work was my first victim). Anyway as soon as i get my wi-fi going (hopefully this week) i'm gonna to PM you, thanks bro!
It's only a little like jailbreaking an iPhone, because one of the main advantages of jailbreaking is getting access to apps that Apple wouldn't approve, and Google don't do that. Features that you had to jailbreak for, like multitasking and a deeper level of customisation, are standard in Android.
It's only really needed on Android for low-level manipulation of the system, like installing lag fixes, using backup programs like Titanium Backup, or tweaks like changing the CPU speed settings in SetCPU. I expect that most Android users would be happy never rooting, but most people here are, being either developers or interested in that low-level customisation.
Luckily, the Galaxy S is very easy to root! There's very little security against that (basically none in 2.1 builds), which is quite unlike a lot of other phones, some of which can require quite arcane methods exploiting obscure security holes.
Mithent said:
It's only a little like jailbreaking an iPhone, because one of the main advantages of jailbreaking is getting access to apps that Apple wouldn't approve, and Google don't do that. Features that you had to jailbreak for, like multitasking and a deeper level of customisation, are standard in Android.
It's only really needed on Android for low-level manipulation of the system, like installing lag fixes, using backup programs like Titanium Backup, or tweaks like changing the CPU speed settings in SetCPU. I expect that most Android users would be happy never rooting, but most people here are, being either developers or interested in that low-level customisation.
Luckily, the Galaxy S is very easy to root! There's very little security against that (basically none in 2.1 builds), which is quite unlike a lot of other phones, some of which can require quite arcane methods exploiting obscure security holes.
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I still get lag with I9000 (especially during music and video playing) though very minimal. I would like to try to just change the UI as I feel it still needs work on. Though, my question is can I still get the Froyo update with custom firmware?
As a new android user I have one suggestion for you:
Spend a lot of time reading about all the things you find on this forum and play with your phone a lot
I did not know anything about android or the phone itself (apart from tech specs and a few things I saw on hands on videos and reviews) till I signed up here. I've read a lot here that made me understand how my phone works.
Atm I'm using LauncherPro and my SGS is rooted and running JM5 firmware. If you read related articles you will find that unrooting your phone and restoring it to your stock firmware is fairly easy.
I have been installing, testing and keeping or uninstalling loads of apps. Some of them people have recommended here (like Titanium Backup) and some I just was curious about (like Unified Remote). So I would say browse the market or other onilne sources and experiment with new apps.
I even feel comfortable now to use adb to pull system files from the phone and see what's in them and if there's room for customisation.
Even been reading a bit about Java fgs
Fireloon said:
As a new android user I have one suggestion for you:
Spend a lot of time reading about all the things you find on this forum and play with your phone a lot
I did not know anything about android or the phone itself (apart from tech specs and a few things I saw on hands on videos and reviews) till I signed up here. I've read a lot here that made me understand how my phone works.
Atm I'm using LauncherPro and my SGS is rooted and running JM5 firmware. If you read related articles you will find that unrooting your phone and restoring it to your stock firmware is fairly easy.
I have been installing, testing and keeping or uninstalling loads of apps. Some of them people have recommended here (like Titanium Backup) and some I just was curious about (like Unified Remote). So I would say browse the market or other onilne sources and experiment with new apps.
I even feel comfortable now to use adb to pull system files from the phone and see what's in them and if there's room for customisation.
Even been reading a bit about Java fgs
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Yep two thumbs up for you! Well I have always felt I'm more of a Sith than a Jedi! Be stepping on the dark side soon too, thanks for the great advice and Ima doing it!
Previously: Owned HTC HD7, Windows Phone 7 device.
Current status: Own a RaZr running CM9. (Android 4.0.4)
Ok...
Here I am again at that crossroad. Where to go from here. I am in a genuine dilemma here. I have had a WP7 device and I loved the simplicity and fluidity that kicks Android in the nuts. (Let's be honest.)
The problem is, like they say, once a flasher, always a flasher. I have played around with RaZr a lot! I have had custom ROMs, mods, tweaks, apps...you name it. And this is where I want/wish/feel/need to stop. I am done with Android. It takes waaay tooo much of my time. There are so many tweaks and mods that it leaves very little family/social time. Android is very customizable. Like totally. I can have HTC OS/apps on a MOTO. LG homescreen on HTC. Bla bla...it goes on...
You would ask then why did I shift from WP7 to Android. Good question. The itch to flash a ROM, the high you get when you have another device's UI, an app that you love...all of that. The dev scenario on the WP front it almost negligible. I am again being honest. And I don't even have to mention how it is on Android front.
But, like I confessed, I am done. What else do I do now...?
On the other hand, WP8 is fresh, new and beautiful. I like it. Another thing, I had many apps that I thought I would love running once I get my Android. I did, only for a month. The excitement died with the same speed it was born.
So, I will conclude this with a question.
How will my experience be different from WP7 and more importantly, Android. I want a simple, fast, and innovative OS. But what is the future of WP? Is it going to be as big as Android? Apart from the resizable tiles, is there a lot more than what was there when I had it?
Footnote: I use phones for email, staying connected on social platforms, staying updated with all the latest tech news and most importantly, books. I like to read a lot. And of course Music. So is the WP8 for me? OR Android is my best bet?
PS: Trolling and sarcasm will NOT answer my questions. So please avoid it. I am looking for people who are genuinely interested in sharing info to make WP8 my next phone.
Thanks a lot for your time and patience.
circleofomega said:
Previously: Owned HTC HD7, Windows Phone 7 device.
Current status: Own a RaZr running CM9. (Android 4.0.4)
Ok...
Here I am again at that crossroad. Where to go from here. I am in a genuine dilemma here. I have had a WP7 device and I loved the simplicity and fluidity that kicks Android in the nuts. (Let's be honest.)
The problem is, like they say, once a flasher, always a flasher. I have played around with RaZr a lot! I have had custom ROMs, mods, tweaks, apps...you name it. And this is where I want/wish/feel/need to stop. I am done with Android. It takes waaay tooo much of my time. There are so many tweaks and mods that it leaves very little family/social time. Android is very customizable. Like totally. I can have HTC OS/apps on a MOTO. LG homescreen on HTC. Bla bla...it goes on...
You would ask then why did I shift from WP7 to Android. Good question. The itch to flash a ROM, the high you get when you have another device's UI, an app that you love...all of that. The dev scenario on the WP front it almost negligible. I am again being honest. And I don't even have to mention how it is on Android front.
But, like I confessed, I am done. What else do I do now...?
On the other hand, WP8 is fresh, new and beautiful. I like it. Another thing, I had many apps that I thought I would love running once I get my Android. I did, only for a month. The excitement died with the same speed it was born.
So, I will conclude this with a question.
How will my experience be different from WP7 and more importantly, Android. I want a simple, fast, and innovative OS. But what is the future of WP? Is it going to be as big as Android? Apart from the resizable tiles, is there a lot more than what was there when I had it?
Footnote: I use phones for email, staying connected on social platforms, staying updated with all the latest tech news and most importantly, books. I like to read a lot. And of course Music. So is the WP8 for me? OR Android is my best bet?
PS: Trolling and sarcasm will NOT answer my questions. So please avoid it. I am looking for people who are genuinely interested in sharing info to make WP8 my next phone.
Thanks a lot for your time and patience.
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Too many contradictions. You want new, fresh, different, but don't want to flash anything. You want wp8, but its not been released, so you are basing your wants on vapor ware.
For now, get an iPhone, then, if wp8 is ever released, read the hardware and software reviews, and weigh it again.
I don't like iPhones, but at this point, change and stability is all you need.
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Too many contradictions. You want new, fresh, different, but don't want to flash anything. You want wp8, but its not been released, so you are basing your wants on vapor ware.
For now, get an iPhone, then, if wp8 is ever released, read the hardware and software reviews, and weigh it again.
I don't like iPhones, but at this point, change and stability is all you need.
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Thanx for your reply. To begin with, I hate Apple to the core. So that's out of the window. I would rather stick with my RaZr. Thanx anyways...
Sent from my RaZr NeXus.
WP8 will have many new features:
Bluetooth File Transfer, Real Multitasking, 3rd Party Info on the Lockscreen etc..
Just browse through WP7 sites like www wmpoweruser com or http://www.1800pocketpc.com/...
I'll go for WP8...
chabun said:
WP8 will have many new features:
Bluetooth File Transfer, Real Multitasking, 3rd Party Info on the Lockscreen etc..
Just browse through WP7 sites like www wmpoweruser com or http://www.1800pocketpc.com/...
I'll go for WP8...
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I've made up mind too. I'm buying Windows Phone 8 as well.
Thanx!!
Sent from my RaZr NeXus.
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I've made up mind too. I'm buying Windows Phone 8 as well.
Thanx!!
Sent from my RaZr NeXus.
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That's nice to hear... Welcome back in the WP world
Everywhere where there's a discussion about Flash player it just gets over crowded by Apple fanbois or something because it suddenly gets overrun with hate on how crap Flash is. Yet I bet if they were allowed Flash Player on the iPhone and Android weren't (you can still manually install) then they'd be touting it as a feature. I just think what is wrong to have choice? Why must Operating Systems now become about being dictated how to use it and why features you like are bad? If you don't not like Flash Player then you do not have to use it or install it, I don't see how it impacts you and why you'd wish for people who like it not to have the option. MOD EDIT.
I've got a now dated Galaxy S2 and I'm using the last generic Gingerbread firmware for it and have no speed issues. I'm using this firmware because I do not like ICS or JB and that is ok, with Android I'm allowed the choice. I can run BBCiPlayer's desktop website which is Flash based on my phone and even streaming over HSPA+ with Three and I have no performance issues. I've never experienced Flash crashing any more than anything else on any phone, in fact I remember lots of stuff crashing on my old iPhone 4 which was meant to be so much better and more stable. Flash seems no more unstable than anything else, I think people just love to jump on the hate wagon. Obviously the Desktop Flash experience on a mobile is not the best when it comes to UI, however performance wise it works fine and I'm happy to have it.
When I had the iPhone 4 (my first smart phone) I bought it because it was praised as the best one at the time and everyone was singing its praises. However I became more and more aware of what I couldn't do with it as Apple didn't want me to. The one thing that bothered me was how many site apps I had to use to watch video content and even mobile sites. These sites are never good and I just want the Desktop option with Flash Player. Now I know this is still the case today as I try my friends iPad 2 and lots of the sites I want to visit like Youtube, BBCiPlayer and maybe some efukt for lols still use Flash, Youtube has made a leap to HTML5 but still lots of videos are Flash only. I don't know when HTML5 is meant to set the world on fire, Apple have been going on about it since as long as I can remember and it still hasn't become the standard. I just don't see why you wouldn't allow people just to install Flash Player so they can have the best experience.
I know Adobe have stopped support but that really is just don't to the resistance against it from Apple. I used to see loads of happy reviews on the Android marketplace for Flash Player, lots of people want it more than crazed fanbois. Also why not just have an advanced option on these modern Operation systems like Android where you can freely install stuff you want from a third party source? People who are clueless wont know about it and people who know what they're doing can just have a warning saying Warranty void or something and sorted.
I just want Flash Player, it has made the internet what it is today. I don't know what issues people have with it but I use it everyday and have done for many many years and relative to the stability of operations systems in their time, Flash has been no more unstable than anything else. I've not had Flash crash since I can remember on Windows, Chrome is a great platform for it at least, I dunno about other browsers. Android it's perfectly smooth too....
I just don't get the hate.
I also like flash very much, but it has been decided it will not be supported anymore, so it's ending. There are and will be better alternatives (I hope).
Flash is a dieing platform its very bloated and thus has never worked well on android.
The likes of HTML5 gives much better performance and being modular will be a ever expanding platform.
Its just how things happen the web is a ever changing platform and there's little flash can do that can tbe done better else where.
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Flash is a dieing platform its very bloated and thus has never worked well on android.
The likes of HTML5 gives much better performance and being modular will be a ever expanding platform.
Its just how things happen the web is a ever changing platform and there's little flash can do that can tbe done better else where.
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That is pretty much true. I will add my two cents.
1. Flash is proprietary. You have to buy tools and compiler to develop. What is more there is only one official flash player. Others were created thanks to reverse engineering and are not very good.
2. Flash is terribly optimized. What I mean is the compiled code is very inefficient.
3. Language. Who would like to learn and use ActionScript if there is mature and popular JavaScript?
Flash really shouldn't get hate. Why? It is completely optional. Turn off plugins from browser settings and you have a phone completely free of it. If your phone didnt came with it, and you downloaded it yourself, uninstall it and there!
So there really is no reason to hate on it so much
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I am a fan of flash.
A sad thing is that there is no moment in between - many services that rely on flash are not yet switched to html5.
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I am a fan of flash.
A sad thing is that there is no moment in between - many services that rely on flash are not yet switched to html5.
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+1. I still like flash a lot. As per growing trend, a lot of websites are now converting to HTML5 but it will be a while before flash becomes completely obsolete.
I don't know, I think the general hate towards the platform was started by Apple users who were mad that Android got flash but they never did. Sure, flash is a locked down platform, but so is Apple's ecosystem. HTML5 is supposed to be the open successor to flash, but for DRM purposes I see most content is still done with flash. A lot of the flash content we want to view on our phones is actually made for desktop users only, so there is no reason for site owners to want to switch to HTML5.
In my opinion flash was to the point where performance on mobile devices wasn't as much of an issue anymore. HD Youtube videos play in flash without noticeable frame loss on dual core devices. Device hardware had finally caught up to the point where it could render desktop based flash content without choking. Awkward interaction with flash elements in a mobile browser was fixed by a full screen option which works nicely.
Many people are misinformed as to why Adobe discontinued flash on mobile. It wasn't Apple or Google's fault, Adobe simply decided to stop focusing on flash for mobile and to move on to newer technologies like HTML5. What I don't get is why they are still supporting Adobe Air on mobile since its based off flash. They announced in late 2011 that ICS would be the last version they would support flash on. Google Chrome first showed up on Android in early 2012, so it wasn't Chome that killed flash like some think.
Luckily Adobe is maintaining download links on their site for flash apks and is still doing security updates for now.
I don't get why you'd end flash to work on HTML5? Why not just make Flash better?
I don't care if something is dying or not supported anymore. When it is still used on more sites than the nearest competitor (HTML5) then it is sitll number one and you need to support it.
I would be interested in an iPhone or Windows phone, however the locked down OS not giving you any options like to have flash on your phone kills them for me. I'll always choose android because the software is superior as a result of the third party. You can produce an OS but you need it to be open to be successful, IOS is a mess because it is closed, it has been a mess for many years since everyone caught up to Apple. You need an open OS because the people always come up with way better software than the official company. Innovation is what you didn't know you even wanted but it makes such a difference, you don't get that from corps.
jacekbb said:
That is pretty much true. I will add my two cents.
1. Flash is proprietary. You have to buy tools and compiler to develop. What is more there is only one official flash player. Others were created thanks to reverse engineering and are not very good.
2. Flash is terribly optimized. What I mean is the compiled code is very inefficient.
3. Language. Who would like to learn and use ActionScript if there is mature and popular JavaScript?
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1 - Wrong you can download the Flex or AIRSDK for free ,and use free tools to create Flash/AIR.
2 - Wrong again, Clearly you haven't used flash recently. Stage3D is amazing:
Is this bad performance? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EBxd2tFEvU You can try it out if you find it and download it.
3 - :laugh:, JS is really an old language without real OOP language like Actionscript or Java. So classes are prototypes which is a very old and obsolete concept when there are Objects and Classes out there....
To get an idea: JS is to JAVA (or AS3) as BASIC to C++ .
You must be one of the fanboys mentioned on the first post.
Seriously dude, don't talk about things you don't know about.
@spunker:
Flash is within AIR within an APP. Means apple store can sell it and is happy about it. HTML5 cool stuff doesn't work on most low end phones, (just like flash!) And to be honest Flash was capable of doing many things that HTML5 is NOT YET able to do. HTML5 was sold as the technology of the future but I have been there years ago, and I will rather changing career if i had to go back to that tecnology. (How many days wasted in problems with compatibility with browsers...)
I'm a stage3D developer and I don't think is slow. The old Flash system (which is still heavily used by designers, not coders) is slow, time line, vectors, and tons of layers made Flash flexible and accessible but very slow performance. Now with stage3D, flash is just code and bitmaps with GPU acceleration. This means it runs like any other SDK (like coronaSDK or Unity). Same performance!
I always try to be objective, and Apple fans are not. Is like a massive religion. Lucky, I am atheist and I can see sects very easily. :laugh: