WM6.5 on htc one. Why? - One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi everybody
as probably even rocks know, cotulla joined htc one development, and he wrote that probably one of his goals is to port WM6.5 on htc one. Can anyone please explain me what benefits could give this porting?
I know windows mobile, I used it since WM6.1 and I had sony ericcson xperia x1 and htc hd2. I loved some of its aspects..but isn't it a little outdated to be used nowdays? (bad graphics and fluidity, no pinch to zoom and almost NO updated apps because even the marketplace is closed..)

Why not? You had the HD2. They ported over every version of Android, Windows 95, Windows 98, Linux, Ubuntu, etc.
May even give devs the chance to learn more about the infrastructure of the One if they can manage to get other OS's to run on it.

PcFish said:
Why not? You had the HD2. They ported over every version of Android, Windows 95, Windows 98, Linux, Ubuntu, etc.
May even give devs the chance to learn more about the infrastructure of the One if they can manage to get other OS's to run on it.
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Yeah but a thing that I noticed with hd2 that (beyond WM6.5) "only" android and windows phone 7 could be used as a daily roms..the ther OSs were quite an experiment. I mean...for a "normal" user, what could offer Windows Mobile on htc one?
I can't understand if there's the possibility to "rewrite" windows mobile to make it daily adoptable for common users, or it's an "experiment" useful for developers

I think wm6.5 is base of wp7.
wm6.5 may be functionally worked as 'root' of wp7 and 8. Also, Cotulla worked with wm6.5 hd2 at first. It is just starting of cotulla's legend...

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windows 6.5 rom ported to Liquid ????

as the title says...can it be done, hardware is very similar to other wm6.5 handsets out there so isnt it possible to upload their roms to this phone???
would it be possible in the future, as would help me choose the liquid to buy right now over the HD2.
thank you
if you want winmo why not getting a neotouch s200? is almost the same as liquid but winmo
want capacitive touch screen and multitouch.
the resistive touchscreen on the s200 looks laggy to say the least, nothing to do with the processor.
As far as I know Windows Mobile 6.x only supports resistive touch screens
even if it did support capacitive, all those Windows mobile menus and items are so small they are not finger friendly, you would have a horrible time merely navigating through the OS
why do you want to use windows mobile?
I've used windows mobile 5.0 then that old phone died and I bought a new phone with windows mobile 6.1. At the same time I was handed a HTC Dream (The G1, first android) for my thesis project, and I was playing around with that. Instantly the android made Windows Mobile seem slow, ugly and horrible to use.
The WinMo had a slide open keyboard. It literally took about 30 seconds - 1 minute for all the UI to change from portrait mode to landscape, horribly slow.
Which is why I bought my own G1, and now a happy owner of an Acer Liquid
im guessing you have tried the HTC HD2 yet, its UI is amazing.
considering the liquids hardware isnt too different, wouldnt it be possible.
old winmo phone were crap, the new HD2 with new UI is amazing. trust me
i think no one has tried with success to port winmo to an android phone.. so far, i dont think there's many trying...winmo 6.x is dead now, 7 series is coming
Not gonna happen, one reason is that WinMo is closed-Source and then there would be no drivers available but Android uses proprietary drivers instead.
Uff xD it's really impossible...

[Question] WM6.5.3 ROM for Tattoo

Anyone know of an WM6.5.3 ROM development for the Tattoo?
Its not even rooted properly yet, and thus no custom roms at all...
Btw why would you wanna use WM?
ebsbow said:
Anyone know of an WM6.5.3 ROM development for the Tattoo?
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Are you sure you're in the right forum ?
Why WM ? WHY!!??
mainfram3 said:
Are you sure you're in the right forum ?
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jejeej if it has not been achieved in this forum, I think that is not achieved in either ... I think the confusion is not a forum, could be the phone
Windows Mobile can't be ported on the Tattoo. And that's that. End of story.
Don't see why not.
WM on the Tattoo: The sequel..
Its an HTC device and uses mostly the same components as other models.
Porting isn't really what is needed here. Just need to get it to run.
That goes vice versa.
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Ah, you are an Mac user. Then this will be hard
my 2 cents:
If you wanted WM, you should had bought a Touch2.
That's the WM Tattoo cousin, with same specs and all...
Cheers
Why make windows 95/3.11 run on an mobile?
Why make Android run on other htc devices?
Why make linux run on other htc devices?
Why make WM run on the Tattoo?
Comm'n guy's don't be so reluctant, we are developers here.
i have seen on endgadget or gizmodo(i dont remembeer) few days a go a kirf of htc tatto running win mo 6.5.3
btw the specs of this litlle monster were not the same as the tattoo
here is the link
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/21/keepin-it-real-fake-part-ccliv-htc-tattoo-joins-the-winmo-gan/
cheers
t0nil0 said:
i have seen on endgadget or gizmodo(i dont remembeer) few days a go a kirf of htc tatto running win mo 6.5.3
btw the specs of this litlle monster were not the same as the tattoo
here is the link
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/21/keepin-it-real-fake-part-ccliv-htc-tattoo-joins-the-winmo-gan/
cheers
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:lol: That's awesome!
ebsbow said:
Don't see why not.
WM on the Tattoo: The sequel..
Its an HTC device and uses mostly the same components as other models.
Porting isn't really what is needed here. Just need to get it to run.
That goes vice versa.
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Ah, you are an Mac user. Then this will be hard
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wm on tattoo == a step backwards in technological advancement
that would be about the worthless thing that could happen to the tattoo
What technological advancement are you referring to..?
If you are referring to the fact that Android is Google,
then please enlighten us what so great that we need to
spare the Tattoo from Windows Mobile..
Developers are indiscriminate when it come to brand.
I have these devices because I love the hardware and we can
do stuff with it. We can develop, experiment, tool them and if done
right, make money on them.
Admire htc for developing these devices for us, not Google, MS or Apple.
Serioulsy, what the **** ?
You have an Open-source firmware on your phone, and you want to remplace it with a closed-source ?
You've a firmware totally independent of any firm, or society, and you want to remplace it with a totally-dependent-of-microsoft-firmware ?
You are root on your phone, and you want to change for a phone on wich you are just a user ?
Seriously !
I think I understand what ebsbow is trying to explain to us. IMO, as long as it is for development purpose only, then I can agree. But I don't feel that WM can be fully implemented on the Tattoo, and don't think it'll be suitable for day-to-day use.
I think ebsbow got a point here. This is a dev site, not a fanboy site which support the back of a specific os just because it is better (according to some). If there is a way to implement windows mobile on the tattoo, then why not? Where is the harm in that? You dont like it, then dont use it. Itll be just a break through.
If you happen to hate a specific os, it is just a personal opinion. Just hold back from clicking on the forum. Xda dev is about development, not about refraining development just because some dont like the direction in which it is pointing.
But for now I think that porting windows mobile to the tattoo is far away. We are still in a very undeveloped stage of getting root. And also, thanks to all the devs who invested their spare time in this, a huge work has been done. Lets just hope that we soon get a stable state of root which doesnt get lost on reboot and that give us true root capabilities.
I don't think the stock Tattoo having root has anything to do with installing a new OS. Then again, I ain't a developer, and I don't know **** about developing WM for an officially unsupported device.
Of course mate. I just meant that the devs have their plate full right now
yash08 said:
Of course mate. I just meant that the devs have their plate full right now
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Okay, I'll release my windows mobile curse and admit that I do have some thoughts into Windows Mobile on the tattoo:
To be honest, Windows Mobile could be ported to the Tattoo/Click. WM could live on a SD Card, and the bootloader (HardSPL?) bootstraps the code from the SDCard to boot the WM environment or have a boot menu saying "Press Left to boot Android 1.6/2.x or right to boot Windows Mobile 5/6/7"
However, you'll face these problems:
1. Driver Support, you'd have to hack WM extensively to get support for phone and related components unless the drivers could be ported from the Touch/Touch2.
2. Not a native WM device. This could lead to Windows Mobile crying it's eyes out when the device crashes. "Mummy, I want my device rebooted". (lol bad joke, but hey )
3. Apps. Would they support the Tattoo's screen res? Parts could be missing off the screen and whatnot.
4. SD Card wear and tear. Could WM burn that MicroSD card up if you use it extensively? Windows can really tear up a SSD HDD if you abuse it, but a MicroSD has a tiny chip that runs the show.
5. Who's gonna support you when your WM/Android hybrid phone blows up and you need a replacement, and HTC rejects it due to "unsupported mods"?
Anyway, that's my few cents. I hope this helps you WM fangirls/fanboys.
Here is some progression on the htc Niki::
[23 FEB] Android Eclair 2.1 for HTC Niki - Work still in progress:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637586
[APP][04FEB10]Gen.Y DualBOOT v1.0.5.0[W|Q|VGA][CAB|EXT]:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623792
[18 FEB] New Android on HTC Touch-Dual *NIKI* --UPDATED
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634572

{q} can we get flashable android rom

?????????????????
The Devs are working on this at the moment on some other devices.
It's a Fake! NAND storage is not aviable at Topaz in this moment!
Damn it, I really wish it would be possible already.
As shavenyaknz posted, devs are working on a flashable ROM for Rhodium. Considering the huge similarities between Topaz and Rhod, their work should be easily ported to Topaz when the time comes.
However, right now the project relies on windows to initialize a good deal of stuff so that it would work on Android. So it'll take a lot of work to succeed in making the Kernel initialize everything properly.
HD2 can do it , we can too
Winmo is better
Windows mobile is better than android any day of the week, unless you are at least half retarded. just enjoy the fact that WinMo is built by a talented company and not an overnight internet fad corp and shut the hell up! Anything Android can do, WinMo can do better. ipso facto. end of story.
Uuuh no, that is all based on opinion. Sure, the windows mobile os is cleaner and has other benefits (including, if you have HTC) HTC sense UI, but nowadays, people want a phone that can do anything, and, even you would admit, windows mobile has far fewer apps then Android (official ones at least) and Android is becoming quite common among the smartphone croud. I like microsoft, but even I think they kinda dropped the ball on this one. However, I do think that Windows Phone 7 is a step in the right direction.
HTC OS
Hey i had this idea for a few days but only now i found a chat where i can ask it. Is there Symbian os for HTC devices?; and if there is where can i find it(if there isn't then why???)
thoughtunleashed said:
Anything Android can do, WinMo can do better.
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So why doesn't it?? If it did we wouldn't be lusting after android.
thoughtunleashed said:
Windows mobile is better than android any day of the week, unless you are at least half retarded. just enjoy the fact that WinMo is built by a talented company and not an overnight internet fad corp and shut the hell up! Anything Android can do, WinMo can do better. ipso facto. end of story.
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Are you for real?
The problem on my topaz is, that the data.img gets too big to fit in the phone-storage. I cooked a WM6.1 ROM without any HTC-devices and the there was still not enough space on the device.
Maybe the developers of xdandroid try to change the internal links for data.img to the storage device. This could work
inselstaat said:
The problem on my topaz is, that the data.img gets too big to fit in the phone-storage. I cooked a WM6.1 ROM without any HTC-devices and the there was still not enough space on the device.
Maybe the developers of xdandroid try to change the internal links for data.img to the storage device. This could work
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maybe a 128M data.img will do
thoughtunleashed said:
Windows mobile is better than android any day of the week, unless you are at least half retarded. just enjoy the fact that WinMo is built by a talented company and not an overnight internet fad corp and shut the hell up! Anything Android can do, WinMo can do better. ipso facto. end of story.
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GPS connects better on android, so not everything by windows is better.
Android is better. I've been winmobile ever since the Orange SPV and imho Android ****s all over winmobile (except 7). I can't wait until I can flash android on my TD2, tho I'll probably have saved up the cash for an HD7 by then!
txtter said:
HD2 can do it , we can too
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HD2 is the best HTC device ever!
TD2 is like wannabe... But stillt would like to have android running from nand. hd2 running it that way seems to bee very stable and fast, also with sense ui. looking forward
txtter said:
HD2 can do it , we can too
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Who is this "we" you are exactly referring to?
"TD2 is like wannabe" What??????
wavesshock said:
HD2 is the best HTC device ever!
TD2 is like wannabe... But stillt would like to have android running from nand. hd2 running it that way seems to bee very stable and fast, also with sense ui. looking forward
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The HD2 is the bigger version of the TD2
I have the TD2 befor HTC made the HD2
Now I have the Desire and gave the TD2 to my wife. And she want now to have the Android in the TD2 too.
wavesshock said:
HD2 is the best HTC device ever!
TD2 is like wannabe... But stillt would like to have android running from nand. hd2 running it that way seems to bee very stable and fast, also with sense ui. looking forward
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my only phone upgrade will ever be an hd2 i am not switching os's.... ive tried them all... seriouslly all!!!
i am only slightly tempted by WP7...
im gonna buy enough HD2's to last me the rest of my life...
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[Q] HD7 with Windows 6.5

Hi, would it be possible to buy the HD7 (Trophy) and change the rom to WM6,5?
I like the phone and its size but my company's email software and some other softwares are not WM7 compatible. Is it possible to install WM6.5 onto the Trophy or should I just get an older phone (probably HD2)?...
Get an older phone if you want to use 6.5.
trade me, i've got a brand new, never used hd2 . j/j, i hate at$t.
HD7 with WinMo 6.5 is HD2
ha ha ha ha ha
sorry
this is really funny
get a new/reconditioned HD2 on email for around £250 in UK
Fundamentally incompatible
bartkozik said:
Hi, would it be possible to buy the HD7 (Trophy) and change the rom to WM6,5?
I like the phone and its size but my company's email software and some other softwares are not WM7 compatible. Is it possible to install WM6.5 onto the Trophy or should I just get an older phone (probably HD2)?...
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The hardware of the hd7 and the hd2 are almost identical, but the hd2 is actually better. It has a removable sd slot also.
The HD2 had to be redesigned because the Windows phone 7 OS is actually a silverlight runtime environment and needed different hardware and that means different drivers. There is currently no way to use the hardware on the hd7 with wm6.5.
I assume you ask this because you want the flexibility of third party apps...
I just went and downloaded Microsoft Expressions Blend 4 and started to write my own apps for my phone
Just get yourself an HD2...same performance
Lancelot
HTC Addict
HD2/HD7
Thanks
Super thanks to all of you!
I hoped to get an answer that I can install WM6.5 until there are some apps available for WM7 from my company. And then reinstall WM7. I guess it is not that easy... I will get the HD2 then...
Thank you for all the answers
What is "WM7" of which you speak?
tai4de2 said:
What is "WM7" of which you speak?
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It looks that everybody understood except you...
What HTC 7 Pro in Windows Mobile? I would really love that phone if it had a decent OS (Windows Mobile)
A little lucidity to sooth the insanity...
nurps said:
What HTC 7 Pro in Windows Mobile? I would really love that phone if it had a decent OS (Windows Mobile)
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What exactly are you asking? HTC 7 Pro?
The HTC HD7 is a windows mobile phone (Windows Mobile 7) it's really the HD3, but htc jumped to 7 to keep the number synonymous with WM7.... to avoid confusion, although people are still confused. Here's an easy way to look at it;
htc HD2 ---> WM6.5 OS
htc HD7 ---> WM7 (sometimes referred to as Windows Phone 7) OS
Seems you are confused a little..there is no Windows Mobile 7, there is Windows Phone and Windows Mobile..and that ended with 6.5.
But there is no other modern hardware with full keyboard..so the 7 Pro needs Windows Mobile.
When someone buys a Win 7 phone and wants to install 6.5 to get productivity then I really think MS have a major problem or the guy who started this thread is having a lend of us.
I would love to have 6.5.x on my HD7 dual boot
there are a lot of apps available for 6.5.x including multiple browsers copy and paste that i could use while we wait for wp7 to grow in functionality. At this point it would be ideal to be able to dual boot with 6.5.x and wp7, I could do things I need to do on 6.5 and then go back wp7 for the most part.
Are there any news about WM 6.5 ROM for the HD7? I have so many apps for 6.5 with no eqivalent in WM7. It would be great to have WM 6.5 on the HD7. I like the feeled speed compared to the HD2 and it feels easier to swipe with the finger, it have a faster response...
bilbo_b said:
Are there any news about WM 6.5 ROM for the HD7? I have so many apps for 6.5 with no eqivalent in WM7. It would be great to have WM 6.5 on the HD7. I like the feeled speed compared to the HD2 and it feels easier to swipe with the finger, it have a faster response...
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The HD7 feels faster because it runs WP7. Its processor runs at the same speed as the HD2's. The HD2 feels slower because WM6.5 is a big bag of smelly animal poo.
First of all there is no such thing as WM7, it was aborted in favour of WP7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Mobile).
I suggest posting in the WP7 Rom development section your requests rather than here. Considering XDA-Devs is working on craking WP7 itself and when that happens possibly Android, I think the dead OS Windows Mobile will be low down on their list.
I also think dual booting is not all what it's made out to be! I dual-boot my HD2 to Android, and no longer use WM6.5. Why you ask? Well WM 6.5 is dead, most of the services (if not all) for WM6 are available on Android.
If you really must have Windows Mobile, best option is to get a HD2, it has very good support for WM, much better than any fudgeware that could be put on the HD7.
I have my HD7, my old HD2 still uses copilot and now a few apps only found in the Android market. I purchased a simple Pay as you go SIM to keep that phone alive.
I hope its possible soon..the HTC 7 Pro is on the market soon..and there is no alternative to it...
Give me strength!!!!!
What planet are you guys on? MS has switched development to WP7 and are not likley to support WM6 (maybe something in the numbering may give the game away here [sarcasm])
No matter how good the guys at XDA are, they are not going to crack WP7 overnight, it took them over 2 months to crack HD2 last year and that was on technology that didn't differ too much from WM6.1. WP7 is from the ground up.
As for the HD 7 Pro, it will come with WP7, nor Fairy phone 6 or anything else. And guess what? It's not even released yet so no point in asking people to crack it before it's been released.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/7pro/specification.html
Can one of the Mods close this useless thread or move it over to the HD7 Dev thread so all the Devs can laugh at it?
win mobile 6.5 on htc hd7
In reality, this requirement is due to the fact that many programs such as ACR (audio call recorder) and many other contacts backup is not running on win mobile 7. That's why I consider it important to install win 6.5 on hd7, at least temporarily.
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windows mobile 6.5.x on hd7?

while I await for my hd7, i was curious to know if anyone is working on porting windows mobile 6.5.x on the hd7 while wp7 is growing and progressing as a new operating system. I think that it would be nice to go back and forth between winmo and wp7, for our different needs until wp7 is a fully robust operating system. is anyone working on this?
Gateau Noël said:
while I await for my hd7, i was curious to know if anyone is working on porting windows mobile 6.5.x on the hd7 while wp7 is growing and progressing as a new operating system. I think that it would be nice to go back and forth between winmo and wp7, for our different needs until wp7 is a fully robust operating system. is anyone working on this?
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dear friend why u want to waste time porting windows mobile 6.5 to HD7, when u can buy the HD2 which comes with Windows Mobile 6.5 pre loaded....
Gateau Noël said:
while I await for my hd7, i was curious to know if anyone is working on porting windows mobile 6.5.x on the hd7 while wp7 is growing and progressing as a new operating system. I think that it would be nice to go back and forth between winmo and wp7, for our different needs until wp7 is a fully robust operating system. is anyone working on this?
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Are you for REAL ?????
Once you get your HD7 in your hands, you won't be asking this question anymore
My first reaction was to scoff at this, but I do see his point. My daily driver is the HD7 but I still have to keep my HD2 for satnav and SPB time. It's a pain,but once those services are ported over WP7 I won't be needing WM.
I don't think anyone will be working on a port for Windows Mobile, they are too busy working on jailbreaking WP7. If you need WM, get a HD2 or something similar, they will be flooding ebay soon
I hope someone will do it, if it works on the HD7 it will work in the Pro 7 and i could get a modern device with a keyboard.
Im sorry but I rather use the maps on the HD7 then have to deal with WM6.5 that has Satnav or any other app you might use it for. I give all credit to the developers for making the hd2 way better than what it was suppose to be but after all the roms I tested on it along with porting Android, I still had to deal with the lags, freezes, and just couldnt use the phone for the basic reasons. to me theres just no way you can compare hd2 to hd7, its like comparing a brand new painted 1990 car to a brand new 2011 car.
Redunant thread, this one was made before http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833949
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