[Q] How is Trusted Bluetooth supposed to work? - Moto X Q&A

I got my own Moto X and wish to configure it to have a password but to use my Bluetooth in my truck as a Trusted Bluetooth.
I paired the phone to my truck successfully. I configured the security settings to use a PIN and selected the Truck as a Trusted Bluetooth. I expect that the phone will bypass the PIN when paired in the truck - it doesn't do that. It requires me to pin in then it will stay unlocked. is that how it works? Seems to take the appeal of Trusted Bluetooth if I still need to pin in even once.

That is how it works.
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Dark9781 said:
That is how it works.
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So the trusted Bluetooth requires the entry of a password once?
kind of makes it less convenient than I hoped for

How is that? You set it up and that's it every time after it connects itself and you do nothing. How much more convenient could it be?
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AndreaCristiano said:
How is that? You set it up and that's it every time after it connects itself and you do nothing. How much more convenient could it be?
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That's how Moto set it up. If your phone is locked when your trusted Bluetooth devices connects and you have a pin, password, pattern, etc then you have to unlock the phone. After that it remains unlocked. I would guess it is a security feature in case your trusted Bluetooth device and your phone end up in the wrong hands.
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With the slide to unlock I don't have to unlock anything it does it on its own.
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AndreaCristiano said:
How is that? You set it up and that's it every time after it connects itself and you do nothing. How much more convenient could it be?
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as I said - it is still asking me to enter a pin in the truck even while paired with the BT. That is not convenient or safe if the vehicle is moving.
I will delete the BT pairing and go through it again - all I was asking is how is it SUPPOSED to work, because it is not working that way for me at this time.

simard57 said:
as I said - it is still asking me to enter a pin in the truck even while paired with the BT. That is not convenient or safe if the vehicle is moving.
I will delete the BT pairing and go through it again - all I was asking is how is it SUPPOSED to work, because it is not working that way for me at this time.
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once you do it there will be a pop up every time it connects what you need to do is check the box on that pop up that says never show this again. then it will do it without you doing anything. Hope this helps

AndreaCristiano said:
once you do it there will be a pop up every time it connects what you need to do is check the box on that pop up that says never show this again. then it will do it without you doing anything. Hope this helps
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Still not the case. I finally just put a skip label in the truck and unlock it when I need to. I was expecting a totally hands off experience but that does not seem to be the case. I did click the box you refer to but I am still being asked to PIN in.

simard57 said:
Still not the case. I finally just put a skip label in the truck and unlock it when I need to. I was expecting a totally hands off experience but that does not seem to be the case. I did click the box you refer to but I am still being asked to PIN in.
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Some bluetooth devices don't stay connected enough to consistently work as "Trusted Devices." Every time the devices disconnects and reconnects, you need to enter your PIN/password/pattern again. Ideally, this means only once when you first connect, but if you have a device that constantly disconnects and reconnects, then you'll be constantly entering your PIN.
I use Pebble watch as my Trusted Device. It generally works perfectly, but every so often I have to enter my PIN anyway, after the watch has reset its connection.

Related

Active Notifications and PIN lock

Do active notifications and other lockscreen goodies work when you have a PIN code set?
PS Why are some people having wet dreams over these when Symbian had it years ago?
it doesn't. after you say the "ok google now" and your pin lock is already active, the phone will have you type your pin before it starts registering your google now queries.
clovis_ll said:
it doesn't. after you say the "ok google now" and your pin lock is already active, the phone will have you type your pin before it starts registering your google now queries.
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Unless you have a skip!
The other thing you could do is take advantage of the Trusted Bluetooth Devices feature. Not perfect, but if you're around a device you usually pair with you can avoid having the device lock.
clovis_ll said:
it doesn't. after you say the "ok google now" and your pin lock is already active, the phone will have you type your pin before it starts registering your google now queries.
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He's also asking about active notifications, which will still be displayed even if a PIN is set. However, the PIN will still be required to get into the phone.
plasticmoz said:
The other thing you could do is take advantage of the Trusted Bluetooth Devices feature. Not perfect, but if you're around a device you usually pair with you can avoid having the device lock.
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I'm hoping someone comes up with a low power bluetooth beacon I can hang on my keys. Wander away too far from the phone and it locks itself. The only question is whether an activesync policy would allow that.
thedosbox said:
He's also asking about active notifications, which will still be displayed even if a PIN is set. However, the PIN will still be required to get into the phone.
I'm hoping someone comes up with a low power bluetooth beacon I can hang on my keys. Wander away too far from the phone and it locks itself. The only question is whether an activesync policy would allow that.
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As far as I'm aware, activesyncs just require your phone to have security enabled. I'll test it with mine once it comes in and try to let you know.
ShamanicEnzan said:
As far as I'm aware, activesyncs just require your phone to have security enabled. I'll test it with mine once it comes in and try to let you know.
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I suspect it depends on how they've interpreted the "Password enabled" policy. My current device interprets that as PIN or password only - no pattern or face unlock.
I'll be interested to hear your results though.
thedosbox said:
I suspect it depends on how they've interpreted the "Password enabled" policy. My current device interprets that as PIN or password only - no pattern or face unlock.
I'll be interested to hear your results though.
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I believe my Vivid even interpreted Password Required as a pattern unlock...so it may depend on ActiveSync server and device.

[Q] Google now and device encryption problem

I encrypted my 32gb moto x and have discovered that my voice commands are halted by the PIN prompt. It will proceed as usual if I enter the PIN but this defeats the purpose of not having to touch the device. The only feature that seems to work is giving a command to call out. Is there any way around this? I'm not sure how this would be possible without creating a vulnerability in the system, i.e. mimic my voice. Could I only encrypt part of the drive to nestle photos and other data in? The skip is a little better but still I have to "touch" the device.
Thanks
Hawaiidoc said:
I encrypted my 32gb moto x and have discovered that my voice commands are halted by the PIN prompt. It will proceed as usual if I enter the PIN but this defeats the purpose of not having to touch the device. The only feature that seems to work is giving a command to call out. Is there any way around this? I'm not sure how this would be possible without creating a vulnerability in the system, i.e. mimic my voice. Could I only encrypt part of the drive to nestle photos and other data in? The skip is a little better but still I have to "touch" the device.
Thanks
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I don't think this has to do with encryption. Mine isn't encrypted but I do have a pin screen unlock and it prompts me to unlock it when I do voice searches like "who won the last world series" or whatever. I don't understand why but I think that is normal operation of the phone and not due to you having encrypted it.
By the way, was there any performance hit or did it warn you that HD video or anything like that would be impacted by encrypting the device?
reviving this thread - I would like to encrypt my phone, but would that mean having to place a password on my device each time I unlock it? I would rather the password/PIN enabled at bootup only.
basically, I do not want to lose the ability to use bluetooth via my car and the touchless controls if my device requires to be touched due to the encryption.
anyone that has encrypted their phone care to chime in?
thanks!
jco23 said:
reviving this thread - I would like to encrypt my phone, but would that mean having to place a password on my device each time I unlock it? I would rather the password/PIN enabled at bootup only.
basically, I do not want to lose the ability to use bluetooth via my car and the touchless controls if my device requires to be touched due to the encryption.
anyone that has encrypted their phone care to chime in?
thanks!
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i had to encrypt my phone as a result of my employer's corporate email policies. encryption requires you to input a password when your phone is powered on/rebooted, in order to decrypt the device. in addition to that, boot times take twice as long because the OS boots once, realizes your data is encrypted, then boots again.
as far as unlocking the device, encryption forces you to have at minimum NFC unlock (moto skip), which isn't as painful as having to put in a pin every time. however, all active notifications and touchless controls work as expected.
with that said, my corp policies put so many restrictions on my phone, i couldn't even use the touchless controls with my phone locked. device administrator blocked them. long story short, i'm rooted now.
640k said:
i had to encrypt my phone as a result of my employer's corporate email policies. encryption requires you to input a password when your phone is powered on/rebooted, in order to decrypt the device. in addition to that, boot times take twice as long because the OS boots once, realizes your data is encrypted, then boots again.
as far as unlocking the device, encryption forces you to have at minimum NFC unlock (moto skip), which isn't as painful as having to put in a pin every time. however, all active notifications and touchless controls work as expected.
with that said, my corp policies put so many restrictions on my phone, i couldn't even use the touchless controls with my phone locked. device administrator blocked them. long story short, i'm rooted now.
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thanks for the response. I probably would encrypt if I didn't have to do that moto skip or password unlock. just don't want to have to carry that piece around with me and take the time to enter a password (I know, I know, it only takes a second with a pattern, but still quite annoying). but I suppose that's the price you pay for security.

changing the way to work smart lock.

Hello
I have joined my unlock function with my watch Droid LG Turbo R WATCH works from kitkat .. when I change a lollipop few months ago worked the same way .. no problem.
The way it worked was when the phone detected the clock only had to put the key once and ready .. worked for me because if I wanted to keep the phone locked despite my presence was still locked.
But for a couple of days ago .. I change the way you work .. because when detecting the clock is automatically unlocked .. I liked the manual is the first release I felt more confident intruders eyes of my girlfriend. I know I can block manually, but that means pick up the phone every time I get close to it and block it if I want it to stay locked.
someone else will change the way of working smarlock with the clock?
Umm none of that made sense.. Just sayin
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TRANSLATION:
Before he updated his watch (or phone, I'm not sure) he had to unlock his phone once and as long as it was connected to his watch it wouldn't ask for the password again. Now that his phone (or watch) is updated, it doesn't even ask for the password the first time. He wants it to ask for the password once when he's connected to his watch.
cyrushehe said:
TRANSLATION:
Before he updated his watch (or phone, I'm not sure) he had to unlock his phone once and as long as it was connected to his watch it wouldn't ask for the password again. Now that his phone (or watch) is updated, it doesn't even ask for the password the first time. He wants it to ask for the password once when he's connected to his watch.
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Thanks for the translation. How much is your hourly rate for gibberish to English translation work? You seem very gifted.
remove it from the trusted devices,

"can't active sim", multiple errors

I want to unlock my bootloader, and to do so i need to log-in to the Mi account and associate it with my phone.
But every time it tries to verify my number, it fails, the thing is i get 2 possible error messages:
"uplink_sms_limitation" as stated in this thread (https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-8/help/error-activate-sim-uplinksmslimitation-t3837787)
and sometimes i just get, "Failed to verify phone number".
Anyone has an idea how to bypass this one?
if i just turn off the find device it wont try to verify my phone number, but i'm not able to unlock the bl aswell
edit:
USB debugging is on,
OEM unlocking is on
Wifi was off, and 3G/LTE on (tried both)
Any chance you're using roaming?
I had the same issue as I'm right now not in my home country, but using EU roam-like-at-home since I study abroad.
Apparently Xiaomi doesn't care about that, so you need to use a local SIM.
KeinBernd said:
Any chance you're using roaming?
I had the same issue as I'm right now not in my home country, but using EU roam-like-at-home since I study abroad.
Apparently Xiaomi doesn't care about that, so you need to use a local SIM.
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I have roaming set to off, i am in my home town (with local sim card).
I just find it odd how every company find it so easy confirming a phone number, but with Xiaomi it's such an head ache
555satan said:
I have roaming set to off, i am in my home town (with local sim card).
I just find it odd how every company find it so easy confirming a phone number, but with Xiaomi it's such an head ache
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Yeah but it's kinda awesome also. When your phone gets stolen it'll be a headache for who stole it
The War Profiteer said:
Yeah but it's kinda awesome also. When your phone gets stolen it'll be a headache for who stole it
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Apple have been doing this for years, without the need to active your sim card, just plain phone ID

Phone locked, PIN not recognized

Hello,
TL;DR: I cannot unlock my Huawei P10 device, PIN code was not changed by me, but the device does not recognize it. Need to remove PIN or push forward without resetting.
Long version: I was driving with my device connected through Android Auto, Spotify was playing and I was tracking an order through Uber Eats that should arrive a bit after I got home.
After parking the vehicle, the music died, and so did the phone. After taking the cable out and trying to restart the device, it came back up.
However, even though it accepts the SIM card PIN, it does not accept the Screen unlock PIN (which is actually the same). After rebooting, it still does not accept the PIN and I'm not waiting for 1h before I can try a new code.
In order to insert the SIM PIN, I have to press OK, but the screen PIN does not, I just add the PIN and it unlocks.
Can anyone make heads or tails out of this situation and help me recover access to the smartphone without doing a factory reset and losing all the unsaved data?
Jimmy_Jams said:
Hello,
TL;DR: I cannot unlock my Huawei P10 device, PIN code was not changed by me, but the device does not recognize it. Need to remove PIN or push forward without resetting.
Long version: I was driving with my device connected through Android Auto, Spotify was playing and I was tracking an order through Uber Eats that should arrive a bit after I got home.
After parking the vehicle, the music died, and so did the phone. After taking the cable out and trying to restart the device, it came back up.
However, even though it accepts the SIM card PIN, it does not accept the Screen unlock PIN (which is actually the same). After rebooting, it still does not accept the PIN and I'm not waiting for 1h before I can try a new code.
In order to insert the SIM PIN, I have to press OK, but the screen PIN does not, I just add the PIN and it unlocks.
Can anyone make heads or tails out of this situation and help me recover access to the smartphone without doing a factory reset and losing all the unsaved data?
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Give your girlfriend her phone back if you feel insecure about your relationship it's better to talk to her about it, if you can't do that then it's best to just leave
Also if that is your phone and not your girlfriend's then you might be giving it a hard reset unless you have developer options open with enabled USB debugging and a computer nearby
Bricked_it_noobsta said:
Give your girlfriend her phone back if you feel insecure about your relationship it's better to talk to her about it, if you can't do that then it's best to just leave
Also if that is your phone and not your girlfriend's then you might be giving it a hard reset unless you have developer options open with enabled USB debugging and a computer nearby
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It's not my wife's phone, it's mine Plus, if I wanted to do such a thing, I just need to use finger unlock
I do have developer options open, not sure about the USB debugging, but it might not be because I've been trying with ADB and whatever commands I could find, but so far no success....
Jimmy_Jams said:
It's not my wife's phone, it's mine Plus, if I wanted to do such a thing, I just need to use finger unlock
I do have developer options open, not sure about the USB debugging, but it might not be because I've been trying with ADB and whatever commands I could find, but so far no success....
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I use to sell drugs to a guy who named himself jimmy_jams on telegram. Your not Australian are you
No, I'm not.
Also, is there no solution to this problem? Do I really need to do a factory reset?

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