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For those that came from the galaxy nexus, let me know if you've been happy with the moto x.
I was all set to ditch Verizon and buy the nexus 5. However the nexus 5 has not impressed me as much as I'd have hoped, and my wife is still worried about T-Mobile's service.
What worries me is losing control of my device. I would like to at least have root for backups and tethering. An unlocked bootloader would be nice too.
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You're going to love the moto x coming from a gnex I guarantee it. Better screen, much better battery life, way better performance overall, feels good in the hand and the screen size to device ratio is pretty awesome. Its like all screen looking at the front. Verizon actually pushed the first update fairly quick by their standards and there is root now available for the update too. Its not as easy to root/mess around with this phone as the gnex but its not that bad either.
What he said. This phone is leaps and bounds about the GNex. It's one of those things that you're just going to have to try. If you don't like it, just take it back. But I can guarantee that you won't take it back.
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If you liked the gnex then you'll love the X.. trust me.
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So is the moto x bootloader unlockable and relockable or is the only option the developer version? I'm thinking of sticking with my current plan which would be cheaper than shared data even buying the phone outright.
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T-Keith said:
So is the moto x bootloader unlockable and relockable or is the only option the developer version? I'm thinking of sticking with my current plan which would be cheaper than shared data even buying the phone outright.
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All are unlockable except att , Verizon and mexico nextel.
Just to clarify, it would be staying on Verizon.
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From what I understand the Verizon boot loader is locked. But you can use safestrap to partition up to 3gb and install a custom ROM to the partition. You would then "dual boot" and select to boot to the custom ROM.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I've had the Gnex, GS4, and now the Moto X. All with VZW.
Moto X is the best phone I've ever used.
Get the Dev Ed if you can.
I had the GNex on Verizon and loved it, then I (stupidly) went to T-Mobile and got an HTC One and had nothing but problems from the phone and the carrier, and I'm now happily back on Verizon with the Moto X. I feel confident that I've made the right decision for the next two years. As the others have stated, this phone is monumentally, significantly better than the GNex. Think of it as the GNex 2, where they took all the issues from the GNex, fixed them, and then added a few even more amazing things to really top of the whole experience. You have absolutely NOTHING to worry about if you get this phone. The only thing this phone lacks in relation to the GNex is the unlockable bootloader.
Posted from the comfort of my Moto X.
Pay full retail and get the Dev Edition with unlockable bootloader. Right now you have options for rooting the stock versions, but that may not always be the case, and unlocking the bootloader is the only way to insure complete control over your user experience in the future.
Hashcode and dhacker do brilliant work with SasfeStrap to give stock users options to have limited ROMs but even they will tell you to get a dev device if you can afford it.
New changes in the security in 4.4 KitKat will further complicate rooting and running modified systems on all devices that aren't bootloader unlocked and have custom kernel/boot.img. This is how the intend to segregate the user base into those willing to give up their warranty and take responsibility for managing their devices themselves and normal users. Basically developers and extreme enthusiasts in one group and everyone else in the other group.
^Moto diehard, right here.
You rocking an X, cell?
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cellzealot said:
Pay full retail and get the Dev Edition with unlockable bootloader.
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Well I would but I don't like the looks of the half white half black, and it may cost significantly more.
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1ManWolfePack said:
^Moto diehard, right here.
You rocking an X, cell?
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Yes sir! Well...two actually...I have T-Mobile and the VZW Dev editions.
I also am a current Verizon Galaxy Nexus user and considering the Moto X. I have unlimited data and because of my usage it is in my best interest to pay full retail for the phone (trying to hold out for the wooden backs).
Now when you say that the battery life is better, how much better? What is your screen time to total time ratio?
Any signal issues?
How much has the software update improved the camera?
These are my and I am sure others main issues with the Galaxy Nexus. I loved the form factor, the closet to pure Android we Verizon customers could get. The Moto X appears to be the next best or closet thing Verizon customers can get to another Nexus at this point.
I am eyeing the Motorola X as a successor to my current SGS4. Should I buy? Or should I wait for the next MX (X2?)?
I am looking into the Developer Edition. Motorola has a horrible reputation for updates (Atrix, Droid), but they have started keeping up with the X, I dont want the Lenovo sale to mess it up.
I am pretty engrossed by the features it provides, but the Nexus 5 is also an option...
If you've been reading the buyout then the impression is that Lenovo will not interfere with it and let Motorola continue its development.
The S4 is a pretty powerful phone, it have bigger screen, higher resolution, much better camera, microSD and removable battery which the Moto X doesn't have. The Moto X is well optimized, with stock Android, good form factor that is easy to use with one hand, and come with useful features. They are two different experience. You'll just have to see what suit you more and what you're looking for in a phone.
If you are willing to flash custom rom for the S4 and don't care about the touchless control features, you might not need to get a Moto X.
I much prefer the color calibration on the Moto X AMOLED display, it's not over-saturated and have more accurate white tone to me. Also while the S4 display is 1080p, its screen still not RGB pixel arrangement, while the Moto X display is.
The Motorola sale won't impact the less than a year it has left for updates....so that should not factor into your decision.
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I will be using this phone for the next two years, so the buyout will affect me. Motorola will just be Motorola, but without the Google partnership. That can hurt a lot. I am pretty impressed with the moto x, and I love the touchless controls, that's why I considered it over the nexus 5...
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I will be using this phone for the next two years, so the buyout will affect me. Motorola will just be Motorola, but without the Google partnership. That can hurt a lot. I am pretty impressed with the moto x, and I love the touchless controls, that's why I considered it over the nexus 5...
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You can use the phone for 10 years....but with the unofficial 18 months of updates Google started....the Moto x has less than a year left to get updates.....no matter who owns the Moto x. The sale won't change anything that would or wouldn't happen in that short period. So weather Google owns Motorola or anyone else....updates will be done for the X before the sale matters to Motorola.
Get what I'm saying? Custom roms will be the Moto x's only updates by the time any changes happen at Motorola.
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Again...if you want the x....get it. The new owners may or may not mess up Motorola some day....but it won't affect the X....it will already be done getting updates by then.
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The truth is if you but any other flagship that isn't a Nexus you are not guaranteed long updates period either. The fact that the Moto X have stock Android may give it longer update period than other phones with bloated UI. There is no reason why it should stop getting updates just because Lenovo bought it.
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Guys I have a xperia S and I want a new phone and I am considering the moto x but in Mexico the only version of the moto x it's the 16gb version compared with the 32gb of the xperia S.
It's worthing buy the 16gb moto x even if I lose 16gb of the 32 of the xperia S?
And I consider too the xperia zl so what do you think about the zl and the moto x?
Plz help me to decide
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Guys I have a xperia S and I want a new phone and I am considering the moto x but in Mexico the only version of the moto x it's the 16gb version compared with the 32gb of the xperia S.
It's worthing buy the 16gb moto x even if I lose 16gb of the 32 of the xperia S?
And I consider too the xperia zl so what do you think about the zl and the moto x?
Plz help me to decide
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With the Moto X 16GB, you will only get 11GB of usable space. You can try to use some cloud storage to offset your data. You get 50gb of Google Drive storage when you buy a new Moto X.
Sony just announced end of life support for the Xperia S, no reason to get it: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...or-the-xperia-s-xperia-ion-xperia-u-and-more/
The hardware of the Xperia S is not very good anymore. I've used the Snapdragon 3 chip on the American version of Galaxy SII, it's not very smooth and you might even struggle to play some 1080p contents. I can tell you from experience the Qualcomm S4 chip and KitKat 4.4 on the MotoX vs S3 chip and 4.1 with bloated UI on the Xperia S is night and day difference. Even the Moto G is a faster phone than the Xperia S and have latest version of Android.
The ZL on the other hand is a better phone, it have microSD support. It have 1080p screen, but poor viewing angle though. I don't think Sony will update their phones as well compared to Motorola, even though they are being bought by Lenovo I still think they will keep up with the updates. I love the Moto X for the stock Android experience, there are lots of things unique about it, but if storage space is your biggest needs then ZL may be better for you.
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Then I think that I will go for the ZL if I can find in the Internet a motox of 32gb I'll buy it If not the ZL thanks
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The moto x is a decent phone. I got one in a trade and I like it, but the screen is too small for me. After using a note 2 it is hard to go to a smaller screen.
I have 1 year left on my contract and on my S4, but I use none of the special S4 features and am tired of a locked down phone. I am thinking of moving over to a moto X, and was just hoping for any and all feedback.
X+1
I am waiting for the Sept 4th announcement to do anything, But I expect the X + 1 dev edition to cost too much (anything much over $500 and I will be seriously thinking, over $600 and I am out for sure.)
I am hoping to have the new phone I get cost roughly similar to a new phone on contract after I subtract the money made by selling my nearly mint S4 (hoping $250-$300?)
About me:
I don't play games, I just need web browsing, FB, music player, view the occasional document, ect..
I am not an obsessive flasher. I want root/custom recovery to give me the option of managing my own updates. Mostly having a recent OS and the option to flash minor modifications such as offered by xposed framework or stock based roms is my biggest concern.
I use none of my touchwiz fanciness, automated things that go off automatically tend to annoy me (not sure about that voice control in this regard though it sounds cool),
Why Moto x?
Active display, Moto's payment plan, unlocked BL, as well as the "grown up" focus on solid performance and ergonomics is what appeal to me. My S4's specs already seem to be more then I need, and if the Moto X can be as snappy or more then my S4 while giving me an up to date phone for the next year and a half I will be content. (Should be out of school and making decent money by then?)
Why not s4?
I feel like the S4 has more flash then I can appreciate, while being slightly uncomfortable, having annoyingly poor build quality and a fairly bleak future for the modding community... And that at least for now I could move to a moto X for the cost of a new contract phone, but with out contract and with an unlocked bootloader to boot.
Not sure on this one though, and a little worried about being happy still with a Moto X a year from now... So trying to get a wide variety of opinions on this.
What carrier? If Vzw go for a Maxx it is already a x + 1/2! Lol.
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What carrier? If Vzw go for a Maxx it is already a x + 1/2! Lol.
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It is VZ, but I thought the Maxx was no longer available as a dev edition?
If I didn't make it clear enough, the majority of the reason I am getting rid of the S4 is jumping through hoops with updates, and wanting a device that is guaranteed unlocked on Verizon.
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It is VZ, but I thought the Maxx was no longer available as a dev edition?
If I didn't make it clear enough, the majority of the reason I am getting rid of the S4 is jumping through hoops with updates, and wanting a device that is guaranteed unlocked on Verizon.
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Really. I did not know that.
I just got Dev edition, moto web sight $324. I also have S 4, I bought the x for better reception, so far been really good.
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I just got Dev edition, moto web sight $324. I also have S 4, I bought the x for better reception, so far been really good.
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yeah it looks like I just missed the $324 but I am going to call up and talk with customer service to see what they can do. Just waiting to hear back about the moto playment plan.
Can you talk more about the differences in your experience with each device? Just kind of general which one you like more and how the moto has been... I like what I hear about reception, seems like mine is never quite good enough.
I pretty much use the phone like you, I like my S 4 mdk for battery life and tweeks with custom kernel, but Samsung radio's have poor reception. I've owned Motorola phones in the past reception has always been good with moto. This is why I purchased.
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I feel the X screen is too dim/variable compared to the Maxx. Root is not necessary on the Maxx, to me, anyway.
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Signal is great on any Moto.
I love my VZW X DE. Had a non-DE maxx, sold it cause i lost root after taking 4.4
Performance and battery life are awesome. Im sure this device will please me for at least the next year, or until i have enough spare cash to justify an upgrade
One thing to note, is that if the O.P. browses through the development forums for the Moto X, there are not very many ROM's. If you love to flash something new every few days, then you might be disappointed.
However, the reason that there aren't very many ROM's is because the stock experience is so good - for the things you listed - active display, Moto Assist, etc. that don't work in AOSP based Rom's. A stock, debloated ROM with xposed is really all that is needed to have a fantastic device!
I wouldn't be surprised if the Moto X dev editions get cheap again after the Sept 4th press conference, or at the very least, I expect Swappa/Ebay to have several after that date Maybe even mine
I just switched from an S4 to a Moto X developer and I am very pleased. I took advantage of the $324 sale they had on the Moto X developer edition.
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So now that Android 5.0 Lollipop is announced, we get to the (impatient) waiting game.
How long do you think before 5.0 finds its way to the Moto X Pure Edition?
They said in the coming weeks for the Nexus 5/7/10 and GPE phones. My speculation is 5-10 days for Nexus, 11-17 days for GPE, 18-30 days before X PE sees the update, and another 1-2 months before it finds its way to the carrier versions.
Here is where they will announce it:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949
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Here is where they will announce it:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949
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Is it just me, or is there no way to pick the Pure Edition on there? I know it doesn't matter currently, but thought it was odd.
With the original moto x pure edition it was about a month after nexus devices that the moto got its update so I would say a couple of weeks after the nexus so late Nov...
They are pushing the vanilla expierence for the pure, and one of the boasts said it would be almost days after nexus, but that cant be reliable. For someone who had rocked L on their nexus 5 it cant come soon enough.
Anyone know how long after the pure moto x (2013) got updated for the at&t moto x to get it?
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With the old moto x it was about 2 months after the pure got updated
Quick question: if I bought my phone full price does that mean it is the pure edition?
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So now that Android 5.0 Lollipop is announced, we get to the (impatient) waiting game.
How long do you think before 5.0 finds its way to the Moto X Pure Edition?
They said in the coming weeks for the Nexus 5/7/10 and GPE phones. My speculation is 5-10 days for Nexus, 11-17 days for GPE, 18-30 days before X PE sees the update, and another 1-2 months before it finds its way to the carrier versions.
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Probably long before my n7 2013 lte...
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Probably long before my n7 2013 lte...
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It will come when it will come. All the speculation won't make it get here any faster. Moto's track record with the 2013 models, including the Droid line, was stellar. Very quick update to KitKat. My Droid Maxx got it before even the Moto X crowd.
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It will come when it will come. All the speculation won't make it get here any faster. Moto's track record with the 2013 models, including the Droid line, was stellar. Very quick update to KitKat. My Droid Maxx got it before even the Moto X crowd.
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That's what I am saying, motorola will probably even beat some nexus devices
My personal unknowing opinion, by end of next month.
Something tells me it'll be really fast.
Like, same day/next day fast (I'm talking about Pure Edition of course)
The OS on the Moto X is as bare as it can possibly be. There's nothing to port, really.
All Moto-specific features (Moto Assist, Moto Voice etc.) are separate PlayStore apps.
And Nexus 6 pretty much is Moto X, only blown up. So there's no tangible reason for one handset to get Lollipop waaay before the other.
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Quick question: if I bought my phone full price does that mean it is the pure edition?
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Only if you specifically chose the Pure Edition as an option in MotoMaker.
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Something tells me it'll be really fast.
Like, same day/next day fast (I'm talking about Pure Edition of course)
The OS on the Moto X is as bare as it can possibly be. There's nothing to port, really.
All Moto-specific features (Moto Assist, Moto Voice etc.) are separate PlayStore apps.
And Nexus 6 pretty much is Moto X, only blown up. So there's no tangible reason for one handset to get Lollipop waaay before the other.
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I mean they look the same, but they have completely different specs so saying that the N6 is a blown up Moto X is not an accurate statement.
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they look the same, but they have completely different specs
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And how are they fundamentally different? 801 vs. 805? Tomayto / tomahto.
It's not like N6 has 64bit architecture or something.
nTrophy said:
Something tells me it'll be really fast.
Like, same day/next day fast (I'm talking about Pure Edition of course)
The OS on the Moto X is as bare as it can possibly be. There's nothing to port, really.
All Moto-specific features (Moto Assist, Moto Voice etc.) are separate PlayStore apps.
And Nexus 6 pretty much is Moto X, only blown up. So there's no tangible reason for one handset to get Lollipop waaay before the other.
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I am believing it'll be really fast too. Trusted devices doesn't need to be incorporated anymore. Google has their own ambient mode, so Moto could follow that. In Lollipop, the "ok Google" anytime is like Moto Voice, so perhaps less code to deal with. Lollipop looks like it does all the heavy lifting for Moto features. Motorola may have less work to do, except the camera app. They better focus on the camera app. They have no excuse since the APIs are there
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And how are they fundamentally different? 801 vs. 805? Tomayto / tomahto.
It's not like N6 has 64bit architecture or something.
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different gpu
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different gpu
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Again, incremental update. Not too different.
Moto has the final Lollipop build and has probably already been setting it up for updating. The only thing that could hold it up would be carriers.
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Only if you specifically chose the Pure Edition as an option in MotoMaker.
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What about if you've bought the phone sim-free off Amazon? I'm assuming that's a Pure too?
I am in a holding pattern for a new phone as I want to wait for the 820 SoC phones later next year. In the mean time I figure I would get a used phone that can keep me busy. I'm basically looking for something that is stable and with good custom ROM support (as I like to play around). I've narrowed it down to the Moto X 2014 and the LG G3 (verizon versions). I just got Moto G's for my youngsters and I remembered how much I liked the Moto phones. The LG G3 seems to have more official ROM support but I am put off by it's size (5.5) whereas the 5.0-5.2" screens are my sweet spot. I also generally tend to prefer AMOLED screens to IPS.
So my questions is basically how do XT1096 owners feel about their phones and the ROM support? I would particularly like to hear from anyone that has also owned the LG G3.
Thank you
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I am in a holding pattern for a new phone as I want to wait for the 820 SoC phones later next year. In the mean time I figure I would get a used phone that can keep me busy. I'm basically looking for something that is stable and with good custom ROM support (as I like to play around). I've narrowed it down to the Moto X 2014 and the LG G3 (verizon versions). I just got Moto G's for my youngsters and I remembered how much I liked the Moto phones. The LG G3 seems to have more official ROM support but I am put off by it's size (5.5) whereas the 5.0-5.2" screens are my sweet spot. I also generally tend to prefer AMOLED screens to IPS.
So my questions is basically how do XT1096 owners feel about their phones and the ROM support? I would particularly like to hear from anyone that has also owned the LG G3.
Thank you
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I purchased an used Moto X 2014 XT1096 to replace my original Moto X 2013 Developers Edition. I can't speak for the custom ROM availability for the LG G3 but you can check the two developement sections in the Moto X 2014 forum to see what there are. I know there are a few for the XT1096 but not as many as for the other variants (XT1095/1092/etc.). I am going to try CM13 soon on mine. If you really want to play with ROMs then I would go for one of the more popular phones with better custom ROM support.
I did not answer your questions regarding custom ROMs as I tend to stick with the stock ROM and use other enhancements like Xposed modules or a custom launcher. I also like to use the Moto features which may not be available in other custom ROMs. I do plan to at least try CM13 though.
To be able to install ROMs make sure that you purchase a Moto X 2014 that is already bootloader unlocked. If you can't find one then make sure you purchase one that is on 5.0 or earlier version of the OS. Version 5.1 and later cannot be bootloader unlocked. I purchased mine on SWAPPA.
I bought a used 1096 from eBay 3 weeks ago. Been a Samsung owner all of my Android life, I got tired of Samsung's slow updates. I like this phone, have CM13 on it and runs great. Rooting is a little tricky, used mofo to root and sunshine to bootloader unlock