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Only had my note for about 24 hours, coming from a gs2.
The only thing bumming me out is that I can't one hand this guy at all. Is the nexus that much easier to hold with one hand if at all?
I have the Note and Galaxy Nexus w/ ICS. The nexus is much easier for one handed but the keyboard S***s. I have installed other keyboards but will not change. Nexus nice but needs some tweaking, also a lot of menus on the top of the screen which is a bummer for one handed. Kinda like the Iphone, always needing to go to the top of the screen which I dislike. Hook up a Platronics HD head phone and you will be surprised what can be done over bluetooth, ie respond to a text while the phone stays in your pocket
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Bluetooth on the NOTE
So your saying because ICS lacks the menu key, the apps put the menu key functionality in the top right of the screen? I can JUST reach that corner on my GS2's 4.2, there is no way I will be able to with a 4.65.
Not having both devices in hand, I'm having a hard time deciding if I want to send my note back for a nexus. Any other thoughts you have in the "vs" department? Does the nexus feel more like a gs2 in its pocketablity or is it just a little smaller feeling than the note?
doing an OVA update on the Nexus. Checkout update and then post a pic of the nexus screen vrs S ll screen on the menu issue.
Looks like if you can swipe task bar easily then no problem getting to the three squares (menu).
I have both, Nexus obviously much better for one-handed use if that is the main criteria.
Thanks for the replys guys. I had a couple more questions.
Does text on the nexus websites (like engadget) appear sharper when zoomed all the way out because of the higher dPi?
Is the curved glass not much of a advantage?
How much lighter is the nexus? My note feels like a brick next to the gs2.
Can you see the same pentile matrix grid effect (if that what it is) on solid colors?
Do you live in Portland and I can come compare
If you had to pick one device to be your daily driver until the galaxy s3 comes out what would it be? I've sold my gs2 so can keep or return my note for a nexus. I really can't decide. I remote desktop a ton and the pen is kind of a letdown for that, its almost too responsive and bounces around making right clicking or even double clicking difficult. I find myself pinch zooming and finger taping anyway.
Thanks for any input you have, I'm running out of time to decide if I want to return my nite for a nexus.
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Thanks for the replys guys. I had a couple more questions.
Does text on the nexus websites (like engadget) appear sharper when zoomed all the way out because of the higher dPi?
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Yes, but obviously it's a lot smaller than on the Note at that zoom so readability difference between them is moot for me.
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Is the curved glass not much of a advantage?
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No advantage, I love how it looks but in practice doesn't add anything.
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How much lighter is the nexus? My note feels like a brick next to the gs2.
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A lot lighter. Goes without saying really, difference feels similar to the SGSII to Note difference (Nexus slightly heavier than the SGSII, but basically similar).
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effect (if that what it is) on solid colors?
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I don't think it's pentile, I think it's all SAMOLED screens, the SGSII has the same uneven tone on solid colours (particularly noticeable on lower brightness settings and grey backgrounds). At any rate the Nexus definitely has this.
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Do you live in Portland and I can come compare
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No and no, sorry
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If you had to pick one device to be your daily driver until the galaxy s3 comes out what would it be? I've sold my gs2 so can keep or return my note for a nexus. I really can't decide. I remote desktop a ton and the pen is kind of a letdown for that, its almost too responsive and bounces around making right clicking or even double clicking difficult. I find myself pinch zooming and finger taping anyway.
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Note for me, Nexus has too many compromises for my personal usage (no expandable memory, camera not very good, worse GPU/CPU, worse GPS), but depending on your needs it may suit you.
Hi guys, posted this in supercurios post in general... wrong place as no replies. Have s read.
I just tried showing off a 720p mp4 on my note. The clip was ice age film clip so I thought it looked great. The guy I showed was really impressed. He has a gsii.
Then we decided to do a comparison. Same file.
Gsii vs Gnote.
http://www.dvdloc8.com/clip.php?movieid=18272&clipid=1
After a bit of debate we both agreed the gsii looked better. Especially with the hair on the mammoths! The hairs showed up much clearer on the gsii. The hair on the Gnote looked fuzzy and washed out.
Anyone else willing to check this? You'll need both phones of course.
I really thought I had a superior screen... why with the higher pixel density does gsii look better?
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Hey Guys,
It has been two months since I switched from my iPhone 4 to the Galaxy Note and I haven't touched the iPhone since I bought the Note until yesterday to factory reset it and give it to a friend when I noticed that the iPhone's display looked better (higher resolution) than the galaxy note!! I felt that my Note has a bluish tone to its display?!?! Is this normal or do I have a faulty note? Please help!!
The iPhone 4 has a higher PPI (Pixels Per Inch), so the iPhone's screen is sharper. But the Note's screen is far from bad. Can you post a pic of your screen? (Not a screenshot) And try to get a good pic.
I am at work right now. Will post pics of the Note once I get back home (Can't post pics of iPhone and Note together cos I gave the iPhone away). I am not saying that the Note's display was bad but when I placed them side by side I could tell that the iPhone's display was better easily. I thought the Note should beat the iPhone in display easily because of the Note's higher resolution.
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... I am not saying that the Note's display was bad but when I placed them side by side I could tell that the iPhone's display was better easily. I thought the Note should beat the iPhone in display easily because of the Note's higher resolution.
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iPhone 4 (and 4s) has smaller screen, but higher resolution: 3.5 inches 960 × 640 px at 326 ppi. So it's screen shows more detail than the one on the Note.
I played with iPhone 4s and the Note side by side and would agree that movies, for example, often look "better" on the iPhone, especially the darker sciens. Although the overall picture is smaller, the iPhone's super LCD screen tends to give "more natural" look to a video than the super AMOLED screen on the Note, especially if the quality of the video encoding is not that great. In my experience anyway...
That being said, the quality of screens on the Note appears to vary quite a bit. There's a couple of rather long and active threads here discussing the screen issues...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1336187
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1344714
For those saying the N5 has a washed out screen i advise you to watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlNcuBcnnoU
The N5 has a top notch screen, the viewing angles are abit off but the actual quality is amazing! It clearly outclasses the Xperia Z1, a £450+ phone which only got released recently, and the screen on that is meant to be an improvement on its predecessor the Z1, I feel sorry for the people who bought that O.O
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For those saying the N5 has a washed out screen i advise you to watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlNcuBcnnoU
The N5 has a top notch screen, the viewing angles are abit off but the actual quality is amazing! It clearly outclasses the Xperia Z1, a £450+ phone which only got released recently, and the screen on that is meant to be an improvement on its predecessor the Z1, I feel sorry for the people who bought that O.O
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To say that the N5's screen is great because it's better than the Z1's isn't saying a whole lot. That's like calling yourself fast bc you're only the 3 slowest kid in gym class. I've had both phones and still currently have my N5. I do find the N5 screen to be dull compared to most phones I've used and compared. That being said, as you raise the brightness the screen does look much nicer. It seems the brightness levels have more to do with it than the actual quality of the screen. The Z1 is a great phone but one plagued by terrible viewing angles. The screen which is still quite nice, isn't the best part of the phone so I wouldn't use it as a base of comparison to build up the N5's screen. I don't put a lot of weight into those "complaint threads" because the phone costs $349-$400, for what you pay you get a pretty good phone.
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A lot of people confuse over saturation as a nice screen and natural as dull. Since you can't really test the difference on a phone, if your TV has a standard or vivid mode then throw it on that. Then throw the TV into movie mode. It would look dull at first but that is the closest picture to a calibrated level you will get out of the box. Once your eyes adjust to that picture, then try going back to standard mode. You will never be able to watch an over saturated fake picture again.
Look at the picture in a movie theater, you can call that dull as well but these is what natural and real life look like.
Now, if they boosted up the contrast, that would improve the screen.
looks like we need someone with calibration equipment to do some testing. i mean compared to a samsung with whatever the latest iteration of amoled screen most do look dull. that doesn't mean the samsung is better. samsung tends to artificailly over saturate the colors and they usually have a high color temp and sometimes a green tint.
any photographers or printers out there willing to test the screen?
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looks like we need someone with calibration equipment to do some testing. i mean compared to a samsung with whatever the latest iteration of amoled screen most do look dull. that doesn't mean the samsung is better. samsung tends to artificailly over saturate the colors and they usually have a high color temp and sometimes a green tint.
any photographers or printers out there willing to test the screen?
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I'm really looking forward to the inevitable Anandtech review of this phone. Their reviews are almost absurdly detailed and they have lots of great, objective data.
Next to my Moto X and Note 3, my Nexus 5 DOES look washed out. That's the AMOLED effect.
I compared it to both my Nexus 7 and iPad Air and it looks almost identical. Almost every review I have seen claims that it is "washed out", but I'm beginning to think it's just a color neutral LCD screen.
Angeloftech (check out her youtube channel) does some very extensive screen tests in her reviews and talks about the calibration and what the numbers mean. She hasn't released her Nexus 5 review yet, but I suspect it's due any day. That will give us a little better indication of what this screen is about. For example, she called out the LG G2 as being oversaturated and nowhere near accurate. That screen looks great to me, but the tests don't lie. I think we have just become accustomed to oversaturated screens and it's skewing our perspective a little.
The colours are fine it's the white balance that's off it's too warm.
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Next to my Moto X and Note 3, my Nexus 5 DOES look washed out. That's the AMOLED effect.
I compared it to both my Nexus 7 and iPad Air and it looks almost identical. Almost every review I have seen claims that it is "washed out", but I'm beginning to think it's just a color neutral LCD screen.
Angeloftech (check out her youtube channel) does some very extensive screen tests in her reviews and talks about the calibration and what the numbers mean. She hasn't released her Nexus 5 review yet, but I suspect it's due any day. That will give us a little better indication of what this screen is about. For example, she called out the LG G2 as being oversaturated and nowhere near accurate. That screen looks great to me, but the tests don't lie. I think we have just become accustomed to oversaturated screens and it's skewing our perspective a little.
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You can have a "natural" colors and still have a "dull" or washed out screen. This isn't simply a case of AMOLED over saturation vs N5 and it's "natural" colors. My HTC Butterfly to me has the best screen I've seen. Mind you I own a 5S, Note 3, Butterfly S and N5 all currently. Its color reproduction, saturation, viewing angles and clarity to me best the others. The N5's colors are closer to "natural " then AMOLEDS however that being said is still on the dull side. The note has a clear, bright screen and tends to have improved the cartoonish saturation effect especially when in Movie Mode. Overall I think the N5's screen is OK but not my favorite.
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Her reviews make many of the big boys look like novice fanboys. She does in depth testing with LOTS of real world use reports. She takes the time to actually use these things and not be the first out the door with a review. Most importantly, she will put the screen under a scope so we can see what is going on. The nexus 5 screen to me looks amazing, very reminiscent of the calibration apple uses. Compared o the broken calibration that was the nexus 4, I think it is great.
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Nexus 5 is coming with 2 different panels
There are users who ordered 2 phones and these are different screen, one of them washed colors and yellow whites and the other is more cold and real whites like nexus 4
I prefer nexus 4 cause white is real white not sepia
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fjavierm said:
Nexus 5 is coming with 2 different panels
There are users who ordered 2 phones and these are different screen, one of them washed colors and yellow whites and the other is more cold and real whites like nexus 4
I prefer nexus 4 cause white is real white not sepia
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This wouldn't entirely surprise me. I've been scratching my heads about the threads about the yellow whites. I believe some people are experiencing it, especially since people have provided pictures. The white on my phone is a neutral or slightly cool white.
No yellow colors here. my xperia t has a more yellowish screen + is washed out a lot more
As far as I have used this device for a week, it seems color temperature is a bit too high. I hope there will be some kernels that has color temperature options.
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looks like we need someone with calibration equipment to do some testing. i mean compared to a samsung with whatever the latest iteration of amoled screen most do look dull. that doesn't mean the samsung is better. samsung tends to artificailly over saturate the colors and they usually have a high color temp and sometimes a green tint.
any photographers or printers out there willing to test the screen?
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There was already a calibration test done. There is a link somewhere in one of these threads. It tested that the N5 had the closest colors to reference out of all the phones they tested. Maybe someone will find the link and post it here. They also tested brightness and contrast.
It was the contest that is scored towards the bottom of all the phones they tested.
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Next to my Moto X and Note 3, my Nexus 5 DOES look washed out. That's the AMOLED effect.
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Exactly. You can't go comparing Amoled against ISP. There two totally different technologies. When I compare the N5 to other ISP phones mine looks pretty damn good. Like any LCD though I will calibrate it to my taste once the kernels allow for that. This whole thread is literally "in the eye of the beholder."
I've seen 2 different Nexus 5 units here in Canada (at Virgin Mobile kiosks) and in both cases the colors were accurate and very good, though the
whites are a slight bit on the yellowish/warm side. Compared to an iPhone 5S, the whites on the 5S are brighter and cooler.
Well, the good news is that franco kernel is well under development (according to the original nexus development thread) and once it's complete, we should be able to use his app (Display Control) to calibrate the screen if we want to.
Here are a couple of tests run on the N5 and some other flagships and the results. Link pulled from another thread here.
http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...s-schermkwaliteit-scherp-en-dik-in-orde.html
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Here are a couple of tests run on the N5 and some other flagships and the results. Link pulled from another thread here.
http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A//tweakers.net/reviews/3298/7/google-nexus-5-toptelefoon-met-scherpe-prijs-schermkwaliteit-scherp-en-dik-in-orde.html%0A
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Lol I read the article and wondered why it was written in English but read like the auther was drunk until I saw the web address and saw translate. Good read though, points are easily understood and sum up the comments of most.
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i think comparing the Z1 to N5 isnt fair anyway.
So what if the screen on the N5 is technically better? I've used both and...i didnt think the Z1 screen was that bad really. And viewing angles?
How many people use a personal device tilted to the sides? Most people are going to be looking straight at the thing when they're using it, 100% for me, it's a personal device and i'd be rather happy if others couldnt see whats on the screen.
And also "the Xperia Z1, a £450+ phone which only got released recently, and the screen on that is meant to be an improvement on its predecessor the Z1, I feel sorry for the people who bought that O.O"
really.
Feel sorry for the people who bought a very solid and well build phone?
Feel sorry for the people who dont have rattling buttons?
Feel sorry for the people who can happily drop it down a toilet and still have a functioning phone?
Feel sorry for the people who have a camera that's superbly better than the nexus 5?
Well done there mate.
Hi,
I own a Galaxy S2, Note N7000, a Tab S and a newer SM-N910C Note 4. I counted these devices to point I'm very familiar with various AMOLED displays. In fact, I'm so charmed by this technology that I won't ever buy a phone or tablet with LCD again. The problem is, on Note 4 RED is not as RED as in previous devices. I put the same test image on all devices, and all S2, Note 1 and Tab S displays a very pure red, the Note4 displays a kind of red- pink. I really can't say the view quality is poor, white is really white on its screen, but the wavelength of the red color is clearly different. All in this device gives me a "premium feel", but I can't explain why red looks so different. Did they used cheaper materials? I can't imagine it's only to my phone, screen uniformity is good and all screeen has the same color.
I pictured all phones (Note 4 on the left, Note 1 and S2 on the right) with Standard screen mode, brightness maximum.
I noticed this possible issue few days ago when I found about the *#0*# test mode for samsung and I wanted to try. At the very first RED test I noticed that isn't quite red.
Please note that colors aren't distorted because of different screen brightness, the hue is quite the same for the eye, too!
LE: I'm sorry I didn't noticed the screen dedicated topic here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/general/display-issues-thread-t2910575/page2
My mistake...
Mine looks about as crappy. Dang it now you've triggered my ocd, sigh.
Mine's an SM-910F and the screen is red as red can be. Probably deeper red than the S2 in your pic.
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Mine's an SM-910F and the screen is red as red can be. Probably deeper red than the S2 in your pic.
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Same here with a N910C.
Agreed my n910f is as red as it could be.
Here is my Note 4 next to my good old S2. Both are on maximum brightness and the picture is taken with an S4.
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The thing is the Note 4 screen is way way much brighter than the S2 and is known that the previous Galaxy flagships had very unrealistic and saturated colors. The Note 4 has by far the best screen ever and color reproduction is much closer to reality compared to the older generations of S/Note line.
Cheaper display? No chance! The display on Note 4 is top quality/technology and you cannot compare it to the S2.
EDIT: Check your Display settings, you might use different settings and that might be the cause of the pink'ish red.
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Here is my Note 4 next to my good old S2. Both are on maximum brightness and the picture is taken with an S4.
The thing is the Note 4 screen is way way much brighter than the S2 and is known that the previous Galaxy flagships had very unrealistic and saturated colors. The Note 4 has by far the best screen ever and color reproduction is much closer to reality compared to the older generations of S/Note line.
Cheaper display? No chance! The display on Note 4 is top quality/technology and you cannot compare it to the S2.
EDIT: Check your Display settings, you might use different settings and that might be the cause of the pink'ish red.
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This phenomena happens the same with screen on basic or photo. The red hue is the same on my S2, note1 AND Tab S - which it is said it has the most calibrated screen colors. Only on Note 4 the hue is slight pinky. Not much, but uniform. Can I have a unit that was not properly checked?
Hi,
Can anyone please test with this image on 10% brightness to check if there is ghosting.
Best regards
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This phenomena happens the same with screen on basic or photo. The red hue is the same on my S2, note1 AND Tab S - which it is said it has the most calibrated screen colors. Only on Note 4 the hue is slight pinky. Not much, but uniform. Can I have a unit that was not properly checked?
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For me, you have a faulty unit. Please go to settings and change the screen mode under "screen" to have the same in every device, if it still looks bad, take the photos and send it to the Warranty, they have to give you a brand new device. My N910C looks much better than my Old N7000's screen. Used an image with R:255 G: 0 B: 0 (Pure red) and doesnt looks "pink" as yours. Good luck and let us know if you will have a replacement or not. Cheers!
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Hi,
Can anyone please test with this image on 10% brightness to check if there is ghosting.
Best regards
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Not on mine...no ghosting
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Same here with a N910C.
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Mine N9910C perfect
Had to check mine, perfectly fine.
It's super red lol, looks like they gave you an LCD cause it's about as washed out as a nexus5
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Not on mine...no ghosting
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Can you please repeat the process ... Making zoom the image, then drag from one side to the other repeatedly, with low brightness (~ 10%) to see if the ghosting around the cat appear when in motion.
Thanks in advance.
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Can you please repeat the process ... Making zoom the image, then drag from one side to the other repeatedly, with low brightness (~ 10%) to see if the ghosting around the cat appear when in motion.
Thanks in advance.
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Yes. There's ghosting and it's a known issue since the Galaxy S4. This affects every Note 4 so don't worry, it's not only your phone.
Edit: actually it's not called ghosting. Its like blue shades it had a proper name, I will investigate a bit more
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Yes. There's ghosting and it's a known issue since the Galaxy S4. This affects every Note 4 so don't worry, it's not only your phone.
Edit: actually it's not called ghosting. Its like blue shades it had a proper name, I will investigate a bit more
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Yes.. theres something there
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Ok,
I've read something about it... but i think i'm just becoming paranoid about amoled. Last year I sent my S4 to warranty because of that, but in another intensity (way more marked than with the N4)...
Thanks for your opinion.
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like a few others, the colors are just fine, perfect red...
Don't worry, I had a Galaxy s4 too and I hated its screen. On my Sm-N910C I see some ghosting, but its 1/5 of the Galaxy s4 ghosting. Don't Worry about this bro.
My red screen is very good too. I made a comparison with my Galaxy s4 and I see no much difference.
Until the Galaxy s6 outs, the Nkte 4 has the best screen of the market.
Sorry for my bad english, I'm very sleepy.
I'll go into a store and compare my unit with a display unit there. I hope the unit in "Store mode" allows me to enter *#0*#, as I won't be able to install apps on it. After all, it is a simple test; then I'll get back here to tell you.
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Don't worry, I had a Galaxy s4 too and I hated its screen. On my Sm-N910C I see some ghosting, but its 1/5 of the Galaxy s4 ghosting. Don't Worry about this bro.
My red screen is very good too. I made a comparison with my Galaxy s4 and I see no much difference.
Until the Galaxy s6 outs, the Nkte 4 has the best screen of the market.
Sorry for my bad english, I'm very sleepy.
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had the chance to see the Note 4 and the S6 side by side via skype right after the official presentation, looks pretty much the same (Talking about brightness and contrast). IDK about colors as the stream was a bit low quality, but between both I didn't saw too much difference. The screen seems to be the same as Note 4, and that's why Samsung didn't made publicity of the S6 screen and instead focused in other features.
Before starting to explain, I will do an analogy about the amoled screens: There were two "batchs"/generation of amoled screens, first one is the S/S2/S3/Note1/Note2 and the newer one started with the S4, and remained in the Note 3/4 and probably the S6.
Since the S4, samsung "remade" the Amoled screens from scratch, featuring better color reproduciton and whites (the older generation had a green tint all over the white colors).
The S4 screen was the poor amoled screen so far. Maybe because it was the first 1080p Screen by samsung, but it wasn't the best. The issue was called "Purple smearing" and happend even at full brightness. It was pretty noticeable when you move a grey object which had a black background behind, just like the separators between settings at the settings app. However, this issue was reduced in newer devices. The S4 Mini didn't had this issue since the screen quality was pretty much the same screen build as the Note 2, S2 or S3. In the Galaxy S5 and Note 4, the screen was much better built than the S4, however, the smearing effect still happens at low brightness. It's not a big deal, I can live with that. I just hope that I will not have screen burn-in problems like I had with the Note N7000.
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Before starting to explain, I will do an analogy about the amoled screens: There were two "batchs"/generation of amoled screens, first one is the S/S2/S3/Note1/Note2 and the newer one started with the S4, and remained in the Note 3/4 and probably the S6.
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My impression is S3 was the first using different driving methods and different materials. Different driving because you can see PWM dimming when low brightness and different materials because bluish reflections when display off.