Cheaper display? I'm not so happy - Galaxy Note 4 General

Hi,
I own a Galaxy S2, Note N7000, a Tab S and a newer SM-N910C Note 4. I counted these devices to point I'm very familiar with various AMOLED displays. In fact, I'm so charmed by this technology that I won't ever buy a phone or tablet with LCD again. The problem is, on Note 4 RED is not as RED as in previous devices. I put the same test image on all devices, and all S2, Note 1 and Tab S displays a very pure red, the Note4 displays a kind of red- pink. I really can't say the view quality is poor, white is really white on its screen, but the wavelength of the red color is clearly different. All in this device gives me a "premium feel", but I can't explain why red looks so different. Did they used cheaper materials? I can't imagine it's only to my phone, screen uniformity is good and all screeen has the same color.
I pictured all phones (Note 4 on the left, Note 1 and S2 on the right) with Standard screen mode, brightness maximum.
I noticed this possible issue few days ago when I found about the *#0*# test mode for samsung and I wanted to try. At the very first RED test I noticed that isn't quite red.
Please note that colors aren't distorted because of different screen brightness, the hue is quite the same for the eye, too!
LE: I'm sorry I didn't noticed the screen dedicated topic here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/general/display-issues-thread-t2910575/page2
My mistake...

Mine looks about as crappy. Dang it now you've triggered my ocd, sigh.

Mine's an SM-910F and the screen is red as red can be. Probably deeper red than the S2 in your pic.

Jonathan-H said:
Mine's an SM-910F and the screen is red as red can be. Probably deeper red than the S2 in your pic.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here with a N910C.

Agreed my n910f is as red as it could be.

Here is my Note 4 next to my good old S2. Both are on maximum brightness and the picture is taken with an S4.
[/IMG]
[/IMG]
The thing is the Note 4 screen is way way much brighter than the S2 and is known that the previous Galaxy flagships had very unrealistic and saturated colors. The Note 4 has by far the best screen ever and color reproduction is much closer to reality compared to the older generations of S/Note line.
Cheaper display? No chance! The display on Note 4 is top quality/technology and you cannot compare it to the S2.
EDIT: Check your Display settings, you might use different settings and that might be the cause of the pink'ish red.

Dean-xXx said:
Here is my Note 4 next to my good old S2. Both are on maximum brightness and the picture is taken with an S4.
The thing is the Note 4 screen is way way much brighter than the S2 and is known that the previous Galaxy flagships had very unrealistic and saturated colors. The Note 4 has by far the best screen ever and color reproduction is much closer to reality compared to the older generations of S/Note line.
Cheaper display? No chance! The display on Note 4 is top quality/technology and you cannot compare it to the S2.
EDIT: Check your Display settings, you might use different settings and that might be the cause of the pink'ish red.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This phenomena happens the same with screen on basic or photo. The red hue is the same on my S2, note1 AND Tab S - which it is said it has the most calibrated screen colors. Only on Note 4 the hue is slight pinky. Not much, but uniform. Can I have a unit that was not properly checked?

Hi,
Can anyone please test with this image on 10% brightness to check if there is ghosting.
Best regards

davidk_ro said:
This phenomena happens the same with screen on basic or photo. The red hue is the same on my S2, note1 AND Tab S - which it is said it has the most calibrated screen colors. Only on Note 4 the hue is slight pinky. Not much, but uniform. Can I have a unit that was not properly checked?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For me, you have a faulty unit. Please go to settings and change the screen mode under "screen" to have the same in every device, if it still looks bad, take the photos and send it to the Warranty, they have to give you a brand new device. My N910C looks much better than my Old N7000's screen. Used an image with R:255 G: 0 B: 0 (Pure red) and doesnt looks "pink" as yours. Good luck and let us know if you will have a replacement or not. Cheers!

shadowlabs9 said:
Hi,
Can anyone please test with this image on 10% brightness to check if there is ghosting.
Best regards
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not on mine...no ghosting
Sent from my SM-N910F using XDA Free mobile app

-Sweeper_ said:
Same here with a N910C.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mine N9910C perfect

Had to check mine, perfectly fine.
It's super red lol, looks like they gave you an LCD cause it's about as washed out as a nexus5

Nano23 said:
Not on mine...no ghosting
Sent from my SM-N910F using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you please repeat the process ... Making zoom the image, then drag from one side to the other repeatedly, with low brightness (~ 10%) to see if the ghosting around the cat appear when in motion.
Thanks in advance.

shadowlabs9 said:
Can you please repeat the process ... Making zoom the image, then drag from one side to the other repeatedly, with low brightness (~ 10%) to see if the ghosting around the cat appear when in motion.
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes. There's ghosting and it's a known issue since the Galaxy S4. This affects every Note 4 so don't worry, it's not only your phone.
Edit: actually it's not called ghosting. Its like blue shades it had a proper name, I will investigate a bit more

galaxynote2 said:
Yes. There's ghosting and it's a known issue since the Galaxy S4. This affects every Note 4 so don't worry, it's not only your phone.
Edit: actually it's not called ghosting. Its like blue shades it had a proper name, I will investigate a bit more
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes.. theres something there
Sent from my SM-N910F using XDA Free mobile app

Ok,
I've read something about it... but i think i'm just becoming paranoid about amoled. Last year I sent my S4 to warranty because of that, but in another intensity (way more marked than with the N4)...
Thanks for your opinion.
Best regards
---------- Post added at 11:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:38 PM ----------
like a few others, the colors are just fine, perfect red...

Don't worry, I had a Galaxy s4 too and I hated its screen. On my Sm-N910C I see some ghosting, but its 1/5 of the Galaxy s4 ghosting. Don't Worry about this bro.
My red screen is very good too. I made a comparison with my Galaxy s4 and I see no much difference.
Until the Galaxy s6 outs, the Nkte 4 has the best screen of the market.
Sorry for my bad english, I'm very sleepy.

I'll go into a store and compare my unit with a display unit there. I hope the unit in "Store mode" allows me to enter *#0*#, as I won't be able to install apps on it. After all, it is a simple test; then I'll get back here to tell you.

jgfernog said:
Don't worry, I had a Galaxy s4 too and I hated its screen. On my Sm-N910C I see some ghosting, but its 1/5 of the Galaxy s4 ghosting. Don't Worry about this bro.
My red screen is very good too. I made a comparison with my Galaxy s4 and I see no much difference.
Until the Galaxy s6 outs, the Nkte 4 has the best screen of the market.
Sorry for my bad english, I'm very sleepy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
had the chance to see the Note 4 and the S6 side by side via skype right after the official presentation, looks pretty much the same (Talking about brightness and contrast). IDK about colors as the stream was a bit low quality, but between both I didn't saw too much difference. The screen seems to be the same as Note 4, and that's why Samsung didn't made publicity of the S6 screen and instead focused in other features.
Before starting to explain, I will do an analogy about the amoled screens: There were two "batchs"/generation of amoled screens, first one is the S/S2/S3/Note1/Note2 and the newer one started with the S4, and remained in the Note 3/4 and probably the S6.
Since the S4, samsung "remade" the Amoled screens from scratch, featuring better color reproduciton and whites (the older generation had a green tint all over the white colors).
The S4 screen was the poor amoled screen so far. Maybe because it was the first 1080p Screen by samsung, but it wasn't the best. The issue was called "Purple smearing" and happend even at full brightness. It was pretty noticeable when you move a grey object which had a black background behind, just like the separators between settings at the settings app. However, this issue was reduced in newer devices. The S4 Mini didn't had this issue since the screen quality was pretty much the same screen build as the Note 2, S2 or S3. In the Galaxy S5 and Note 4, the screen was much better built than the S4, however, the smearing effect still happens at low brightness. It's not a big deal, I can live with that. I just hope that I will not have screen burn-in problems like I had with the Note N7000.

galaxynote2 said:
Before starting to explain, I will do an analogy about the amoled screens: There were two "batchs"/generation of amoled screens, first one is the S/S2/S3/Note1/Note2 and the newer one started with the S4, and remained in the Note 3/4 and probably the S6.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My impression is S3 was the first using different driving methods and different materials. Different driving because you can see PWM dimming when low brightness and different materials because bluish reflections when display off.

Related

Blueish screen?

I haven't received my Galaxy S yet but everytime I use my friend's I think the screen is just too blueish. Mostly the white parts. And I also think a "square field" is visible all over the screen. Is this because the resolution is too low compared to the size?
The phone itself is great so I still want it, but I'm afraid the screen will make me disapointed, especially since I've read so much about the Super AMOLED is so great.
Are all Galaxy S' screens like this?
What is the "square field"? please explain better.
And let's start from clearing the point of resolution/size-
800X480 is more than enough to go up to 7". If anything, it might be the pentile matrix that the screen uses.
I guess it's these "squares" I see: http://www.engadget.com/photos/iphone-4-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-display-face-off/#3115591
You're probably right that it's more the pentile matrix I notice more than lack of resolution.
I cant understand why many reviews says this screen is very good when it's very noticable.
I've seen mentions of different Galaxy S phones having different colour temperatures, though mine seems fairly cool.
PenTile does, unfortunately, make text less sharp, and there is a bit of a screen-door effect (I think that's the term you're looking for). It's a tradeoff for having a Super AMOLED screen - excellent contrast and very bright, but not as good as a TFT for text. I've become accustomed to it though, despite my misgivings (but a non-PenTile SAMOLED really would be the best screen without question).
Mithent said:
I've seen mentions of different Galaxy S phones having different colour temperatures, though mine seems fairly cool.
PenTile does, unfortunately, make text less sharp, and there is a bit of a screen-door effect (I think that's the term you're looking for). It's a tradeoff for having a Super AMOLED screen - excellent contrast and very bright, but not as good as a TFT for text. I've become accustomed to it though, despite my misgivings (but a non-PenTile SAMOLED really would be the best screen without question).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What's the good side with PenTile? And yes, I've searched for "screen-door effect" and it seems as if that is what I'm seeing.
Yes, Galaxy S display seems to have quite high colour temperature. You can sort of calibrate it using the calibration app that was developed for Nexus One a while ago and is now part of CM6, but you have to run Froyo, install it manually and lose video overlay, so it's not really usable right now. Nevertheless I've managed to calibrate my SGS to more or less 6500K using it.
Case_ said:
Yes, Galaxy S display seems to have quite high colour temperature. You can sort of calibrate it using the calibration app that was developed for Nexus One a while ago and is now part of CM6, but you have to run Froyo, install it manually and lose video overlay, so it's not really usable right now. Nevertheless I've managed to calibrate my SGS to more or less 6500K using it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What is the downside of losing video overlay?
Not being able to play back videos and shoot pictures and videos Or, to be precise - you can do all of that, but all you see is white screen
Case_ said:
Not being able to play back videos and shoot pictures and videos Or, to be precise - you can do all of that, but all you see is white screen
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh. Well, guess I'm not going with that solution then
But since it can be done through software, does it mean that Samsung could make an update and fix this?
I had this on my old galaxy S and coming from the x10's tft it was painfully obvious the white colour had a blue/green tint to it. I then got it replaced and the tint was still there but not so obvious. Now after a while the white colour looks perfect white. I think my eyes have adjusted or something.
rocketpaul said:
I had this on my old galaxy S and coming from the x10's tft it was painfully obvious the white colour had a blue/green tint to it. I then got it replaced and the tint was still there but not so obvious now after a while the white colour looks perfect white. I think my eyes have adjusted or something.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, guess I'll have to wait until I get my before I know how bad it is.
My friend got a blueish Galaxy S I9000. Mine isnt that much!! Next to his looks like mine is Redish, but mine next to my Monitor looks blueish! I believe some Screens have more blue tint than others
Mine is very white. Put the phone on a white screen (using a screen torch app) and the screen looks whiter than a piece of white paper.
Hey all, keep us updated if there's any application that can change the color temperature without affecting the functionality.
I got the phone a few days ago and my friend's is defenitly more blueish than mine. I dont notice the screen-door effect anymore so I'm very very happy with it.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
I´ve read something on a German Mobile Phone Review Site (don´t know the which one it was now) and they said, that this is normal, because of the AMOLED Tecnology. They said that the Colors will loose the intensity over the years and as blue is the most energetic Color in the spectrum it looses faster the intensity. That is why it looks now maybe a little bit diferent. After a while it should normalise, because it was planned by the manufactures.
Ok found the Site. Heres the translation:
Higher blue components of the display of the Galaxy S may have been deliberately created by Samsung with the idea that the blue OLEDs are aging much faster than green or red. After months of use should mitigate this effect and color balance to be balanced.
djr83 said:
But since it can be done through software, does it mean that Samsung could make an update and fix this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They could do that if they wanted to, yes. But don't expect them to do so, I don't think colour temperature is of any importance to them if it stays within usable range.
zeusalmighty said:
Hey all, keep us updated if there's any application that can change the color temperature without affecting the functionality.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Got this tip a while ago on some other thread - you can start Video player, play some video, go to Settings and change the Colour tone to Warm. It stays changed even when you leave the player. It's not perfect, but it helps a bit.
rocketpaul said:
I had this on my old galaxy S and coming from the x10's tft it was painfully obvious the white colour had a blue/green tint to it. I then got it replaced and the tint was still there but not so obvious. Now after a while the white colour looks perfect white. I think my eyes have adjusted or something.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually, YES! Your eye do adjust to the white that you are looking at.
You've been doing this all of your life and haven't noticed it. The light in the morning is a very different color than the light at noon. In the morning, it is likely very red if the weather is good, and very white at noon... yet everything looks normal to you... because your eyes adapt to the color.
Adjusting to your screen is the same way. But compare it side by side with another screen and one or the other is going to look "wrong", usually the one you haven't been staring at all day!
djr83 said:
I got the phone a few days ago and my friend's is defenitly more blueish than mine. I dont notice the screen-door effect anymore so I'm very very happy with it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Congratulations, your brain has created a special filter, using a process called "adaption", by the human vision scientists, that blocks the screen-door effect. You didn't know it, but your brain created one years ago that blocked out the 'striped-lawn' effect caused by the columns of RGB subpixels on conventional color displays. That 'striped-lawn' effect was just as visible the first time you saw one, but that was likely many years ago.
Okay so this blue tint thing is somewhat strange, still no clear answers.
Some people are saying "this is normal for super amoleds." I have to disagree. If this was normal, then every single Super Amoled would have this blue tint. I've put my samsung galaxy s vibrant side by side next to the samsung galaxy s epic, fascinate, captivate and other vibrants. Some have a blue tint, and others don't. Others have nice rich whites, while some like mine have a blue tint.
Makes no sense, so I'm not buying the "all super amoleds have this blue tint" statement. They don't all have them!
I've used my phone for over 2 months now, and the blue tint is not fading at all. Something else people said. I don't plan to keep this phone for 10 years, waiting for the blue to fade, I want nice white now, not blue whites.
Anyone have any updates on this blue tint some galaxy s phones show?

Questions about the burn in of note ! !

Is there any burn in on galaxy note?I have a s8500 and have some horrible burn in like clock,am pm,signal bars,alarm,so many horizontal and vertical lines ! !Is this too present on NOTE?My s8500 is about 1.5 yrs old and started to show burn in 2monts after i bought.
And i also want to know the difference between the saturation of note vs s2
Which one is better, samoled vs samoled +?
Thankx in advance
I believe its too early to say anything about the screen burn. I have owned the phone since November, and my screen seams fine so far. If you are that worried about it, you can install launchers that hide the status bar, or allow transitions in the start pages.
Regarding the saturation, the S II is too saturated causing unreal colors. No idea if that changed with ICS though. You should head over to SII forums for that. The Note displays colors closer to what they really are. They still are a bit saturated though.
As far as amoled+ vs amoled HD is concerned, I would suggest the later. 1280x800 with 5.3 inch screen looks much better than 4.3 with 800x480. In the end, its your choice. Compare the 2 in hand and pick what fits your needs.
I've had mine since November also. I have a black wallpaper with white Android logo in center. Have noticed that the Android image will faintly show on dark app backgrounds, am a little concerned. It's very faint.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
Today looking a white image I saw that I already have burn in in the status bar with their icons.
kersh said:
Today looking a white image I saw that I already have burn in in the status bar with their icons.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Trick for status bar burn in is to switch between 12 and 24 hour clocks every week. It shifts everything over slightly
Also depending on the launcher you use. You can hide the dock and status bar
Just to clarify things...
The burn in problem is not specific to some AMOLED based models!
All AMOLED based phones will get the burn in problem sooner or later!
I just recently switched from a Black Note to a White one, the first had a bit more than four months use and I noticed that the screen, while not burned in, wasn't as bright as it used to be and I found myself increasing the brightness more and more month after month. Then when I switched to a White Note, wow, I didn't remembered how bright the screen was initially!
So yes, our beloved Notes suffer from that Burn-in problem just like any other AMOLED smartphone.
Also, take caution when using it outside, since our screens also degrade under extended periods of UV light exposure! No matter if the screen is on or off!
Another good reason to use a Super LCD based screen like the one on the One X.
Cheers!
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk
Yes the note can suffer from pixel wear a.k.a. burn out.
To prevent this:
Use launchers that hide the notification bar on home screens.
Don't use apps that don't have the option to hide the notification bar.
Use full screen browsing with browsers such as Opera Mobile
And don't leave static images on the phone for extended periods of time.
And for the love of god don't use a cradle or docking station because that will destroy your screen! Think about it? Leaving your phone on all day at work in its docking station showing the time and weather. What do you think is going to happen to that screen?
No burn in here at all, heavy user since Note launch.
I have always used Opera though which allows full screen mode so my status bar is always obscured during web browsing and games.
Thank god I didnt buy one of those yet. I mean who releases a phone that has these problems? The AT&T store is a good example of burn-in. You see the low brightness, lines and butned in launcher icons. Thats what has held me back so far.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
knightblaze said:
Thank god I didnt buy one of those yet. I mean who releases a phone that has these problems? The AT&T store is a good example of burn-in. You see the low brightness, lines and butned in launcher icons. Thats what has held me back so far.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
...trollololol
Not trolling, that is what i saw when messing with any amoled screen device in the att store. When browsing or navigating through screens i would see launcher icons. These were display devices though. I did want a Note but this is what scared me from it. The SGS2 also exhibited this behavior. So now to see if the SGS3 does the same thing, i'm due for an upgrade and want to try a different device other than the iPhone (pending what the iPhone 5 brings). I also noticed lines(greenish hues) when viewing white webpages, but this was strictly on the Note, not the SGS2 or Skyrocket variant.
So I do believe this is strictly related to the amoled displays because reading other topics i see this being issue being brought up often(Q&A section of this sub forum has screen issues brought up often). I'm just concerned because I did want a Note, waiting for ICS and keep reading about it(that is why I am here). My last visit to the AT&T store made me search for those issues. If I am going to buy something I want it to work for 2 years without fail.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
knightblaze said:
So now to see if the SGS3 does the same thing
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The SGS3 does the same thing.
Yes the Note experiences burn in ESPECIALLY with STATIC images. The android status bar is a static image so it will wear out all the amoled LED's near the top of the screen especiall the blue LED's.
If you set your lock screen time out to like 1 minute then after a few months you will begin to see the amoled pixel wear. To see this, view your screen on an all Blue, Gray or Green background.
As vibrant and beautiful as Amoled is I would prefer a super LCD screen on my Note.
Why cant just the dev create a transparent status bar?
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app
Ive had mine since december and use my phone loads and i had a massive burn in from status bar, so sent it off the samsung for a new screen, they repleced fine nd had it back in a week. Screen is sweet now, i now use fullscreen browsing on my phone because thats when i mostly uae my note, hopeully i houldnt suffer as bad now.
That is bad. I have to cancel may NOTE plan and go for the less desirable optimus VU. My phone activity requires to much static moments like thinking long at a chessboard.
I have 3 notes 2 black and 1 white.. Entire family uses note.. Both the blacks have burn in on top.. Visible in all blue or grey background.. Black's have been used for 8-9months while white is just 5months old..
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA
Check out the burn in on this...
Have had my Note since november, I'm not experiencing any burn-in whatsoever.
SGS2 has an RGB layout which will burn in faster.
The blue pixels in AMOLED displays suffer the worst from degradation.
As a pentile layout uses a shared green pixel for the red and the blue, the red and blue pixels are smaller.
Therefore degradation is less noticeable. But it will happen eventually.
In fact one of the reasons Samsung has switched to a pentile layout for the Note and SGS3 is because of the longevity of their panels.
I'm very curious about the Note 2 screen as I understand it's RGB.
My dad has a SGS2 and the burn-in was absolutely horrible.
He wen't to a service center and screen burn-in was covered by Samsung's two year warranty.
No problems there.
Cheers,
Daan
DaanJordaan said:
Have had my Note since november, I'm not experiencing any burn-in whatsoever.
SGS2 has an RGB layout which will burn in faster.
The blue pixels in AMOLED displays suffer the worst from degradation.
As a pentile layout uses a shared green pixel for the red and the blue, the red and blue pixels are smaller.
Therefore degradation is less noticeable. But it will happen eventually.
In fact one of the reasons Samsung has switched to a pentile layout for the Note and SGS3 is because of the longevity of their panels.
I'm very curious about the Note 2 screen as I understand it's RGB.
My dad has a SGS2 and the burn-in was absolutely horrible.
He wen't to a service center and screen burn-in was covered by Samsung's two year warranty.
No problems there.
Cheers,
Daan
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Galaxy S was pentile and it was notorious for burn out. I dont think rgb is any better or worse than pentile when it comes to amoled wear.

Nexus 4 vs Galaxy Nexus: fight (video)

http://www.tuttoandroid.net/samsung...y-nexus-videoconfronto-da-tuttoandroid-77996/
good watching
I think I need a mustache...
cool video.
at this part:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFIDJBQrnc&feature=player_embedded#t=677s
you can clearly see the difference in how deep the blacks are on the amoled.
superkevx said:
cool video.
at this part:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFIDJBQrnc&feature=player_embedded#t=677s
you can clearly see the difference in how deep the blacks are on the amoled.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Coming from a One X i must say that ever since I had the One x i simply despise amoled screens. The Black might be good but i'll take better whites over blacks any day. Apart from that the screen also felt so much brighter than the amoled screen.
The first thing I did when i heard of the nexus 4 and its price was to look whether the screen is Amoled or not. If it were an amoled screen i would have most probably thought twice before buying this device. Amoled IMO is just not there yet. I recall comparing the galaxy nexus's screen with my one x... That dim bluish white on websites was simply horrible.
superkevx said:
cool video.
at this part:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFIDJBQrnc&feature=player_embedded#t=677s
you can clearly see the difference in how deep the blacks are on the amoled.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Watch the first few seconds of this video (Nexus 4 boot up) and you will see that although blacks on the current top of the line LCD displays may not be the same as blacks on AMOLED screens, they're still VERY good.
Well, watched video. Amoled rules. Colors reproduction is way better. LCD way to go for improvement.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA Premium HD app
I have a question...okay the black is better on the galaxy nexus....but when you use your phone, the screen is always black ? because, the white is better on the nexus 4 and the contrast is a lot better. So i don't understand all of this thing about the black on the galaxy nexus....( i used a lot the galaxy s 2 )
This isn't English
How about you ****ing note that in the title, or at least somewhere in the post?
Like I've said before, what's the point of having on screen buttons when the background of the buttons are pure black? And until unless the phone doesn't produce deep blacks, what's the point? The Galaxy Nexus feel more like a Nexus MAINLY because of the AMOLED display.
Don't know why people keep complaining about the PenTile, it's not bad. It really isn't. The Galaxy Nexus, I agree, had some yellow-ing issues but most of the devices DID NOT. I had those issues - My screen broke - I got a new screen and it's FANTASTIC.
Just yesterday, I compared my Galaxy Nexus's screen with the HTC One X, the iPhone 5 and the HTC Sensation (All 3 having LCD displays) and trust me, none of the phones stand a chance in front of the color production of the Galaxy Nexus.
The main reason I didn't buy the Nexus 4 and I never will is the AMOLED. Nexus devices have had AMOLED since their first release. From the HTC One X to the Galaxy Nexus, the devices have been AMOLED and they looked amazing!
Sure the Nexus 4 has a great crisp screen but it surely doesn't beat the Galaxy Nexus in terms of color production and the black levels.
But well, every one has their own opinions. Don't jump on me!
arzbhatia said:
Like I've said before, what's the point of having on screen buttons when the background of the buttons are pure black? And until unless the phone doesn't produce deep blacks, what's the point? The Galaxy Nexus feel more like a Nexus MAINLY because of the AMOLED display.
Don't know why people keep complaining about the PenTile, it's not bad. It really isn't. The Galaxy Nexus, I agree, had some yellow-ing issues but most of the devices DID NOT. I had those issues - My screen broke - I got a new screen and it's FANTASTIC.
Just yesterday, I compared my Galaxy Nexus's screen with the HTC One X, the iPhone 5 and the HTC Sensation (All 3 having LCD displays) and trust me, none of the phones stand a chance in front of the color production of the Galaxy Nexus.
The main reason I didn't buy the Nexus 4 and I never will is the AMOLED. Nexus devices have had AMOLED since their first release. From the HTC One X to the Galaxy Nexus, the devices have been AMOLED and they looked amazing!
Sure the Nexus 4 has a great crisp screen but it surely doesn't beat the Galaxy Nexus in terms of color production and the black levels.
But well, every one has their own opinions. Don't jump on me!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No thanks, Jeff. Pentile is an absolute disaster. Forget color reproduction. It has nearly 30% less sub pixels than the Nexus 4. I still remember telling people that the screen is 720P. My iPhone carrying friends literally laughed, because the difference in sharpness between the two screens was a complete and utter joke. Blacks are only noticeably different in a dark environment (try to see the difference in daylight; you can't), and considering most of us use our phones mostly in well lit areas, I'd take LCD > OLED. Lastly, do I even need to mention how pathetic whites were on Samsung crap? What about the severe burn in? Yeah. No thanks. AMOLED, never again...
Craven68 said:
I have a question...okay the black is better on the galaxy nexus....but when you use your phone, the screen is always black ? because, the white is better on the nexus 4 and the contrast is a lot better. So i don't understand all of this thing about the black on the galaxy nexus....( i used a lot the galaxy s 2 )
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Contrast:
Amoled>>>LCD
Contrast is the brighness of the whites divided by the brighness of the blacks, since the blacks on Amoleds have almost zero brightness their contrast is extremely high.
How contast is not everything, my main use of the phone is browsing and messaging so I will take accurate whites over perfect blacks anytime.
I also got sick of the oversaturated colors an even worse the unavoidable screen burn that is even worse on phones with onscreen buttons.
so i think the nexus 4 is definitely a degrade from Gnexus.... every one saying that ips lcd has a far better brightness than amoleds but its clearly showing in video that TRUE IPS PLUS LCD is totally crap when comparing to HDAmoled ..color reproduction,contrast levels, blacks as well aswhites(look in when comparing chrome browsers) , saturation everything excellent on AMoled.... i thought nexus 4 has a super duper display....but its a big dealbreaker for me...i sold my s3 for a nexus4 ...
gnan10 said:
so i think the nexus 4 is definitely a degrade from Gnexus.... every one saying that ips lcd has a far better brightness than amoleds but its clearly showing in video that TRUE IPS PLUS LCD is totally crap when comparing to HDAmoled ..color reproduction,contrast levels, blacks as well aswhites(look in when comparing chrome browsers) , saturation everything excellent on AMoled.... i thought nexus 4 has a super duper display....but its a big dealbreaker for me...i sold my s3 for a nexus4 ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
READ THE THREAD BEFORE POSTING:
Pentile is an absolute disaster. Forget color reproduction. It has nearly 30% less sub pixels than the Nexus 4. I still remember telling people that the screen is 720P. My iPhone carrying friends literally laughed, because the difference in sharpness between the two screens was a complete and utter joke. Blacks are only noticeably different in a dark environment (try to see the difference in daylight; you can't), and considering most of us use our phones mostly in well lit areas, I'd take LCD > OLED. Lastly, do I even need to mention how pathetic whites were on Samsung crap? What about the severe burn in? Yeah. No thanks. AMOLED, never again...
alangrig said:
Well, watched video. Amoled rules. Colors reproduction is way better. LCD way to go for improvement.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually you tend to find colour reproduction on AMOLED is worse. Sure it's more vibrant looking (often referred to as over-saturated), but that doesn't make it accurate.
Thanks been looking for one
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

Clarity/resolution

The OnePlus 5T has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I have used Samsung Galaxy Note 4 for 2 years ( AMOLED 2k) before coming to 5T and I really don't see any difference.
sukesh1090 said:
I have used Samsung Galaxy Note 4 for 2 years ( AMOLED 2k) before coming to 5T and I really don't see any difference.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good to know, I'm eyeing a 5t myself. I think I read that they use a different 'diamond' pixel spacing on the 5t, so it may actually appear more pixel dense than the old lentil arrangement on Samsung's previous amoled panels.
benjmiester said:
Good to know, I'm eyeing a 5t myself. I think I read that they use a different 'diamond' pixel spacing on the 5t, so it may actually appear more pixel dense than the old lentil arrangement on Samsung's previous amoled panels.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you meant "diamond pentile matrix", then Samsung has been using it from S3 days or even earlier than that. Today's Samsung sourced mobile amoled displays have diamond pentile matrix only that includes 5t as well. This pixel arrangement gives less number of green and red subpixels compared to LCD and other screens but it's non noticeable for a screen with ppi more than 400. It was a problem in S3 and note 2 days bcoz of low resolution but not anymore..
So get the 5t with eyes closed.
sukesh1090 said:
If you meant "diamond pentile matrix", then Samsung has been using it from S3 days or even earlier than that. Today's Samsung sourced mobile amoled displays have diamond pentile matrix only that includes 5t as well. This pixel arrangement gives less number of green and red subpixels compared to LCD and other screens but it's non noticeable for a screen with ppi more than 400. It was a problem in S3 and note 2 days bcoz of low resolution but not anymore..
So get the 5t with eyes closed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh woops, looks like I just got the term wrong.
Can anyone talk on the brightness uniformity of this display
benjmiester said:
Oh woops, looks like I just got the term wrong.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No worries?
---------- Post added at 06:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:23 PM ----------
v0 HaVoK 0v said:
Can anyone talk on the brightness uniformity of this display
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What I can tell you is that the display is perfect. No discoloration or hues on tilting the screen, brightness is uniform only thing is the display looks a bit...really a bit more reflective than the note 4 display but then it could be because of the screen guard thats pretty applied. Other than that nit picking the display is amazig.
v0 HaVoK 0v said:
Can anyone talk on the brightness uniformity of this display
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Uniformity will vary on every screen. It's a lottery with any oled display
v0 HaVoK 0v said:
Can anyone talk on the brightness uniformity of this display
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Uniformity will vary on every screen. It's a lottery with any oled display
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I went through 3 different pixel 2 XLs (for various defects) before setting on the OP5T; all 3 pixels had significant uniformity problems with the top being brighter than the bottom. Also very grainy. Can't find anything wrong with the display on the 5T.
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Uniformity will vary on every screen. It's a lottery with any oled display
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, it's a lottery with LG's OLED panels, but with Samsungs panel, it's more consistent per panel.
harpin14789 said:
Yes, it's a lottery with LG's OLED panels, but with Samsungs panel, it's more consistent per panel.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not sure. Plenty of pink tints etc on Samsung panels. But the Samsung ones are a lot better anyway.
I had 2k screens (G3, S7e and Pixel XL) for 3 years and while I can squint and see that the 5T is a lower resolution, it looks the same when you use it normally.
I was a little concerned about this, but was relieved when I got the phone and the screen was very nice and crisp.
I would like to admit to being quite picky about resolution and used to change it on my G3 to get better battery life but couldn't stand it being slightly "blurry" because it was no longer 1:1, pixel for pixel. Most people don't notice this but it did! (Not that the text looks blurry on the 5T because it is 1:1 at 1080p.)
sukesh1090 said:
I have used Samsung Galaxy Note 4 for 2 years ( AMOLED 2k) before coming to 5T and I really don't see any difference.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey, i just switched too from the Note 4 to too! Before buying i was sceptical too due to the 1080p screen, so i went to the stores and had a look at the mate 10 pro, wich also has a 1080p 6" screen and i couldn't see any difference, so i ordered the OP5T. I am very happy with the screen! Can't see any difference in normal use aswell. Plus it has a much whiter white than my Note 4.
Coming from the 2K screen on the Nexus 6P to the OnePlus 5 had me a little skittish, but it wasn't a significant enough change to warrant returning it. The 5T's OLED panel takes things to another level with its brightness/darkness levels and battery life impact. I thoroughly love it, and went as far as to drop my font size to the lowest possible to give me the faux-highres feel.
Currently my oneplus 3 screen uniformity is rubbish. It's especially noticeable on white band even more so on grey backgrounds with a very noticeable yellow tint towards the top left of the screen. It's pretty gross.
I know it's a bit of a "lottery" with OLED screens but can I expect a better overall experience coming from the OP3?
Id the oneplus 5t screen from samsung ? Shame google couldn't just take an oled display from samsung because otherwise, the pixel 2 xl would be the perfect smartphone.....
Colday96 said:
Id the oneplus 5t screen from samsung ? Shame google couldn't just take an oled display from samsung because otherwise, the pixel 2 xl would be the perfect smartphone.....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sadly it costs to much and has no headphone jack and has not much development.
now back to topic: the screen looks fine nearly the same as on my op3 but thats okay it was a very good screeen.
I've from a QHD Super Amoled display from my Note 5 to this phone. Unless you're gonna use a magnifying glass to pin point pixels, you're gonna find both both displays are excellent. I am extremely happy with the display with my 5t.
Screen looks awesome to me. With any oled screen it's a lottery how uniform it will be.
The screen looks fantastic to me... no noticeable difference from a 2k one.
The phone does not support VR so it would have been only a useless battery draining feature.

GALAXY Note 9 Screen quality?

I have in the past used Note 1 then upgraded to Galazy S4 and now Note 9. When I tried all these devices in store before buying. Their screens appeared to be excellent. But once I bought them and used them for a few days I slowly started to see issues with screens. The note 1 I had slowly developed this redness on right edge of the phone over time visible only on grey background under low brightness. I got it replaced 3 times but then gave up. After that when I switched to S4 it had this reddish top and greenish bottom visible only on low brightness and white or light grey background. I got it replaced once and again got a similar screen with the same issue plus overall slightly yellowish tint on the whole screen. So once again I gave up and was using the same device from past 5.8 years. Now when I tried the Note 9 in stores i just loved the screen and ordered it. Now after using it for a few days I find on light backgrounds that the screen is slightly brighter at the bottom than the top. In fact it's like it's whiter at the bottom than at the top. I was thinking are there amoled screens which have uniform whiteness/brightness across the screen. In all other aspects the screen is perfect to me but this issue once I know it's there is somewhat annoying to me. How is your screen ?
Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk
ankydu said:
I have in the past used Note 1 then upgraded to Galazy S4 and now Note 9. When I tried all these devices in store before buying. Their screens appeared to be excellent. But once I bought them and used them for a few days I slowly started to see issues with screens. The note 1 I had slowly developed this redness on right edge of the phone over time visible only on grey background under low brightness. I got it replaced 3 times but then gave up. After that when I switched to S4 it had this reddish top and greenish bottom visible only on low brightness and white or light grey background. I got it replaced once and again got a similar screen with the same issue plus overall slightly yellowish tint on the whole screen. So once again I gave up and was using the same device from past 5.8 years. Now when I tried the Note 9 in stores i just loved the screen and ordered it. Now after using it for a few days I find on light backgrounds that the screen is slightly brighter at the bottom than the top. In fact it's like it's whiter at the bottom than at the top. I was thinking are there amoled screens which have uniform whiteness/brightness across the screen. In all other aspects the screen is perfect to me but this issue once I know it's there is somewhat annoying to me. How is your screen ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
dont think they had oled on the note 1 or s4 yet. but i can assure you that since Samsung made OLED, these screens are the best out there. and to tell you the truth, any 2018 screen would trump what you may have experienced in the past.
bober10113 said:
dont think they had oled on the note 1 or s4 yet. but i can assure you that since Samsung made OLED, these screens are the best out there. and to tell you the truth, any 2018 screen would trump what you may have experienced in the past.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The note 1 and s4 both had super amoled screens. The screen on note 9 is certainly much better but not perfect as I have mentioned in my first post.
Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk
ankydu said:
The note 1 and s4 both had super amoled screens. The screen on note 9 is certainly much better but not perfect as I have mentioned in my first post.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah i just double checked an your right thy did.
what models re you buying? us or international?
also you might want to try and condition your screen.
oled tools is but one example of apps that display static images at full brightness.
ankydu said:
I have in the past used Note 1 then upgraded to Galazy S4 and now Note 9. When I tried all these devices in store before buying. Their screens appeared to be excellent. But once I bought them and used them for a few days I slowly started to see issues with screens. The note 1 I had slowly developed this redness on right edge of the phone over time visible only on grey background under low brightness. I got it replaced 3 times but then gave up. After that when I switched to S4 it had this reddish top and greenish bottom visible only on low brightness and white or light grey background. I got it replaced once and again got a similar screen with the same issue plus overall slightly yellowish tint on the whole screen. So once again I gave up and was using the same device from past 5.8 years. Now when I tried the Note 9 in stores i just loved the screen and ordered it. Now after using it for a few days I find on light backgrounds that the screen is slightly brighter at the bottom than the top. In fact it's like it's whiter at the bottom than at the top. I was thinking are there amoled screens which have uniform whiteness/brightness across the screen. In all other aspects the screen is perfect to me but this issue once I know it's there is somewhat annoying to me. How is your screen ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Most people wouldn't notice.
I've had a SGSII, a Note 4 and I'm currently using a Note 8. All of SAMOLED displays have been really good with no issue as you have described.
dieselhazza said:
The OLED screen in the XZ3 is better than the one on the Note 9 no doubt about it. Sony have actually done an amazing job and taught samsung a lesson. First shot bullseye
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You do know that Sony is failing in the smartphone department right? They currently in the same situation as LG. Unfortunately, the screen won't save their smartphone division.
Edit: Playstation is where Sony gets their money these days. Sad to see.
"A growing thorn in Sony’s side is its mobile handset business which counts its revenue, primarily from its Xperia line of handsets under the Mobile Communications segment. Sales of $6.88 billion were down 5% from the previous year and the group posted a loss of $255 million.
The mobile communications group guided to a further 12% drop in sales for fiscal 2018 and a projected loss of $138 million. The group does see some light at the end of the tunnel – 5G wireless technology."
They gave been losing money year over year, quarter over quarter man. Their lack of innovation is dragging them down like LG.
By the way, last edit. Sony didn't make that OLED screen. LG Display did.
Displaymate rated the Note 9 as having the best display ever on a mobile phone. Just as they did for the S9, and Note 9 before that. Pretty much every new top of the line Samsung device trumps the best there was before it.... and the best there was has pretty much always been on a Samsung device. Sammy makes the best displays.
In any case, you can find other very good displays on other phones that look pretty much as good, but when a place like Displaymate puts a "best ever" sticker on a device's display, it is for a reason. Note 9 display is not much different than the Note 8 display for instance, but it is enough of an improvement to warrant the top billing from Displaymate.
dieselhazza said:
The OLED screen in the XZ3 is better than the one on the Note 9 no doubt about it. Sony have actually done an amazing job and taught samsung a lesson. First shot bullseye
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here's that survey, the Note 9 is MIA, how convenient.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...-display-is-the-best-claims-a-survey.html/amp
Can't go wrong with either, but, just wanted to post a credible link vs your inexplicable need for the attention from trolling...
KOLIOSIS said:
Here's that survey, the Note 9 is MIA, how convenient.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...-display-is-the-best-claims-a-survey.html/amp
Can't go wrong with either, but, just wanted to post a credible link vs your inexplicable need for the attention from trolling...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
that article never named its source. could have just as well been sony propaganda. love how the article starts with " claims a survey.." of what? 2 or 3 clueless dudes? Maybe Karandeep Singh got payed a couple of rupees..or even a sony phone out of it
edit:
and now since what's on the internets is always "true", people acctualy believe anything nowadays if its well framed and worded.
bober10113 said:
that article never named its source. could have just as well been sony propaganda. love how the article starts with " claims a survey.." of what? 2 or 3 clueless dudes? Maybe Karandeep Singh got payed a couple of rupees..or even a sony phone out of it
edit:
and now since what's on the internets is always "true", people acctualy believe anything nowadays if its well framed and worded.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually,it appears to be nothing more than a marketing company hired by Sony:
https://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/legal/testresults/xperia-xz3/
https://www.strategyanalytics.com/
https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=1051783
All companies on this level tend to use such garbage "research" for marketing,all claims like this should come with an e-coupon code for a pinch pound of salt.
What's worse is peeps getting their panties in a wad,feeling the need to either rationalize their choice in phones,trolling those that have "x" phone,& the fanboi behavior that's fueled by the fluff articles.
The Note 9 is a nice phone,got one myself.
Is it the absolute best out there? In the eye of the beholder & nothing more.
Others choosing something else is equally fine,one would be hard-pressed to actually find a truly terrible phone w/o intentionally seeking one out.
Note 9 earpiece smudges won't go away
Hey I guys I bought the note9 from 6 days ago. One day I was just rubbing the top bezel ( the space that has selfie camera, iris, led, ect) suddenly I saw 2 smudges, one above the earipeice, one under. I kept rubbing it and it doesn't go away. I believe that maybe when I was rubbing my hands were sweating so water entered beneath the glass. Here's a picture I posted here so maybe you'll get what I mean. If anyone has this issues or fixed please share it here. If the attachment is not working please say.
Thanks
Ahmed
Ahmedaymanelkhodary said:
Hey I guys I bought the note9 from 6 days ago. One day I was just rubbing the top bezel ( the space that has selfie camera, iris, led, ect) suddenly I saw 2 smudges, one above the earipeice, one under. I kept rubbing it and it doesn't go away. I believe that maybe when I was rubbing my hands were sweating so water entered beneath the glass. Here's a picture I posted here so maybe you'll get what I mean. If anyone has this issues or fixed please share it here. If the attachment is not working please say.
Thanks
Ahmed
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Take it back & exchange for a new one.
Any attempts to fix it on your own will likely make it worse.
Don't waste a minute waiting for home remedies here, utilize the return/exchange policy for a free replacement before that period expires.
Sent from my SM-N960U using XDA Labs
All note 9 owners can you please open any site with white background in google chrome and when the phone is held in hand in portrait mode do you see even slight difference between the white levels at the top and bottom of the screen. Please reply. Its very slight but its there.
Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk
No
Just looked at a note 9 i have and the note 8 and using chrome on a white (blank) home screen i dont see any color shift at the top or bottom or anywhere on the screen.
ankydu said:
All note 9 owners can you please open any site with white background in google chrome and when the phone is held in hand in portrait mode do you see even slight difference between the white levels at the top and bottom of the screen. Please reply. Its very slight but its there.
Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I opened Samsung browser with no tabs open white screen. Slightly yellow or warm color. Looks pretty even but if I were to be extremely critical top side is a more darker maybe.
The white is definitely not like the note 8 white . Using amoled photo with slight blue light setting.
Sent from my SM-N960U1 using Tapatalk
My Note 9 has an even white color across the whole screen. It also has a bit truer whites than my Note 8. Part of that may be that my Note 8 is now a year old, but overall I believe Samsung tuned the contrast down a bit on the Note 9 from the Note 8. Just to be clear, I am using the exact same display settings on both phones.... so I am getting an accurate comparison of the Note 9 vs Note 8. There is very little difference, you'd have to literally be looking at them side by side to notice the slight difference.
Ahmedaymanelkhodary said:
Hey I guys I bought the note9 from 6 days ago. One day I was just rubbing the top bezel ( the space that has selfie camera, iris, led, ect) suddenly I saw 2 smudges, one above the earipeice, one under. I kept rubbing it and it doesn't go away. I believe that maybe when I was rubbing my hands were sweating so water entered beneath the glass. Here's a picture I posted here so maybe you'll get what I mean. If anyone has this issues or fixed please share it here. If the attachment is not working please say.
Thanks
Ahmed
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
looks as if you have a glass or plastic film. the cutout of the speaker is to high for it being the original glass
Compare home screen icons on the note 8 and note 9. Let me know what difference you see. I see the note 9 not being as sharp. But then on the same token , the note 9 like I said earlier is more natural and appeasing to the eyes.
Limeybastard said:
I opened Samsung browser with no tabs open white screen. Slightly yellow or warm color. Looks pretty even but if I were to be extremely critical top side is a more darker maybe.
The white is definitely not like the note 8 white . Using amoled photo with slight blue light setting.
Sent from my SM-N960U1 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly that is what I am trying to say. The screen is beautiful with the best whites I have seen on a amoled screen and its pretty even as well. But my eyes seem quite sensitive to screens and I also feel the top is somewhat darker.
Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk

Categories

Resources