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upgrading to Xperia Z

hi all
i was wondering if it worth upgrade to xperia z from Lg optimums 4x, or should i keep it
lg is worse in dev support and camera in the dark can not capture a thing

Do it.

You answered your own question mate.
It's a great phone!
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The sony xperia z seems to have problems, through reading and personal experience. I still think its a great phone.
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that's what worried me
the review seem to be different than personal experience as the case about my current 4x the reviews criticized the phone but it's not that bad
what about the heat issue (i'm normal user -internet, facebook, camera, music- ) and glass crack

If you don't play games this phone is amazing.
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gm007 said:
If you don't play games this phone is amazing.
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does it heat alot while gaming
because i sell my s2 and s3 for the heating issue

heahmad said:
does it heat alot while gaming
because i sell my s2 and s3 for the heating issue
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It heats up just like the S3 or any other dual/quad core cpu smartphone. You won't find a smartphone with a cpu like that which won't heat up - unfortunatelly.

Akiainavas said:
It heats up just like the S3 or any other dual/quad core cpu smartphone. You won't find a smartphone with a cpu like that which won't heat up - unfortunatelly.
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unfortunatelly thats true, so today i went to the shop and try the xperia z and it was great the screen look perfect(i compare it to note 2) the touch and feel of the phone is super great and the phone it self look appealing, there is one thing the sound is bit lower than i expected.
i will buy it the end of the month, hope so! :fingers-crossed:
thank you all

Akiainavas said:
It heats up just like the S3 or any other dual/quad core cpu smartphone. You won't find a smartphone with a cpu like that which won't heat up - unfortunatelly.
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As stated here, no cooling fans etc, high cpu speed packed into small bundle, very limited to disipate the heat generated. No phone is not going to head up significantly when under load, the more Cores and GHz the more heat

Hey guys I also upgraded to Xperia z from the note 2 (went for the looks, ignoring the inside cooks)...
and I also made the dealer apply a screenguard on that phone straightaway...
But the picture quality of the phone seems to be a little bad than note 2....
I compared both the phones having same pic on both the phones but note 2 seems to have sharper images....
Do I have a problem with my phone or is it like this originally.?

rohan999 said:
Hey guys I also upgraded to Xperia z from the note 2 (went for the looks, ignoring the inside cooks)...
and I also made the dealer apply a screenguard on that phone straightaway...
But the picture quality of the phone seems to be a little bad than note 2....
I compared both the phones having same pic on both the phones but note 2 seems to have sharper images....
Do I have a problem with my phone or is it like this originally.?
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Turn OFF the Bravia Engine, then see what you think. I much prefer it off.
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alias_neo said:
Turn OFF the Bravia Engine, then see what you think. I much prefer it off.
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I think you did not get me.....
I said that the displays not as sharp as the s3's or note 2's....
the display is sort of blurrish.....(very little)
very dull.... Colors are not very bright at all......

rohan999 said:
I think you did not get me.....
I said that the displays not as sharp as the s3's or note 2's....
the display is sort of blurrish.....(very little)
very dull.... Colors are not very bright at all......
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I got you perfectly.
Turn off Bravia engine and see what you think, I feel it affected the sharpness, I came from an S3 and think the display on the XZ is incredibly sharp.
As for the "dull" colours, it's probably because the SuperAMOLED screens in the GN2 and the S3 were very saturated compared to the LCD in the XZ, personally though, I always used my S3 in "Standard" display mode which removed much of the saturation and I'm a lot happier with the more realistic colours of the XZ.
The camera on the other hand is a different story, and I find it difficult to get photos that come close to what I could take on my S3, too much post processing I presume on the XZ, and they don't do a very good job of it.

rohan999 said:
I think you did not get me.....
I said that the displays not as sharp as the s3's or note 2's....
the display is sort of blurrish.....(very little)
very dull.... Colors are not very bright at all......
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Take into consideration the resolution of the image you are testing. This is a full hd screen so it needs full hd images to compare or it will just stretch them causing blurred.
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has any one notice or read somewhere about screen leakage

wawyed said:
Take into consideration the resolution of the image you are testing. This is a full hd screen so it needs full hd images to compare or it will just stretch them causing blurred.
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Its not just the image I am comparing, it's also the ui of the phone.
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I got you perfectly.
Turn off Bravia engine and see what you think, I feel it affected the sharpness, I came from an S3 and think the display on the XZ is incredibly sharp.
As for the "dull" colours, it's probably because the SuperAMOLED screens in the GN2 and the S3 were very saturated compared to the LCD in the XZ, personally though, I always used my S3 in "Standard" display mode which removed much of the saturation and I'm a lot happier with the more realistic colours of the XZ.
The camera on the other hand is a different story, and I find it difficult to get photos that come close to what I could take on my S3, too much post processing I presume on the XZ, and they don't do a very good job of it.
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Bravia engine works only in the gallery and videos, I taken. Into account the user interface as well

rohan999 said:
Its not just the image I am comparing, it's also the ui of the phone.
Bravia engine works only in the gallery and videos, I taken. Into account the user interface as well
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I see, I'm afraid I can't really contribute any further to the discussion in that case. personally I think on my device it looks much sharper than my S3 did.
Does this issue show up in a screenshot? Perhaps there is some strange graphical issue with your device.

Xperia Z1 Camera is Terrible

Hi everyone,hi to all my friends.
I want to ask very important question.Z1's camera is very bad I think. I am waiting for a better camera. My old phone Xperia Arc is better than Z1.Is this a software problem? Is there anyone who thinking like me? Or Are there some special settings for camera?

Mazellat said:
Hi everyone,hi to all my friends.
I want to ask very important question.Z1's camera is very bad I think. I am waiting for a better camera. My old phone Xperia Arc is better than Z1.Is this a software problem? Is there anyone who thinking like me? Or Are there some special settings for camera?
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yeah number of people are complaining for camera... actually hardware specs are good enough for a mobile but sony's software is a complete mess... all you can do is wait and try to upgrade it to latest version...

n70shan said:
yeah number of people are complaining for camera... actually hardware specs are good enough for a mobile but sony's software is a complete mess... all you can do is wait and try to upgrade it to latest version...
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What is the best stock firmware for camera? Are all firmwares same?
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Mazellat said:
What is the best stock firmware for camera? Are all firmwares same?
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you should use the latest one..of course latest will be a bit better.firmware is available here just check forum.....or use pc companion

Hello,
I am also very unhappy with the camera.
Today I updated my firmware from 534 to 257 and I cannot see any differences in the pictures.
But this is only my view, maybe there are improvements which I do not see.

What is the problem? I have to admit I am quite happy with the camera.
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Guys these are two shots I took with the new firmware... not too bad I guess
This is @1000 iso... noise level is pretty good and white balance is better than earlier
This is in daylight with plenty of details

I think camera-quality is just where you can realistically expect it.
About on par or better than cheap compacts with same sensor-size, but as you can expect it can´t compete with high-end compacts like Canon G-Series, Panasonic LX, Olympus XZ or similar (I don´t want to mention Sony RX100(II) of course which is far ahead).
On the positive side is relatively low NR of luminance-noise which leaves most fine detail intact, virtually no ugly chroma-noise without the colors being washed out up to the highest sensitivities and quite low contrast which leads to quite good DR for a phone-camera (and of course also doesn´t hide the noise by clipping to black like many other phones)
Negative is mostly the camera-app, unfortunately most other phones aren´t better here as well:
The so called "Manual" mode is a joke, on a real camera this would qualify as P-Mode as most, but certainly not M.
Why are the even give you the chance to adjust ISO while not telling you the shutter-speed the camera will use is beyond me. It is not useful to set ISO yourself when you don´t know which shutter-speed you well get. Of course a real shutter-priority-mode would be much better, but I guess that´s to much to ask.
Superior-Auto is too limiting. I know this mode is meant for point&shoot, but I think the possibility to choose the AR you like wouldn´t be to overwhelming for beginners. And of course that you can only start superior-auto from the lockscreen or with the camera-button also is very stupid.
Besides the scene-recognition of superior-auto is also a bit hit&miss.
Also sharpening can be somewhat high, which emphasizes noise and can destroy fine detail.

[Q] Did the Camera of the XZ improved?

Hi @ all
I would like to know if the camera of the Xperia Z really improved since the 10.1.1.A.1.253 update:
gsmarena. com/sony_xperia_z_gets_firmware_update_improves_camera_quality-news-6041.php
I'm really interested to buy a Xperia Z but nearly all reviews of the XZ criticised the camera quality, especially pictures taken in low light.
Thanks in advance for your answers and sorry for the link, cant post a working one due to <10 Posts.

OZ22 said:
Hi @ all
I would like to know if the camera of the Xperia Z really improved since the 10.1.1.A.1.253 update:
gsmarena. com/sony_xperia_z_gets_firmware_update_improves_camera_quality-news-6041.php
I'm really interested to buy a Xperia Z but nearly all reviews of the XZ criticised the camera quality, especially pictures taken in low light.
Thanks in advance for your answers and sorry for the link, cant post a working one due to <10 Posts.
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Camera quality is pretty good, now im ruinning 4.3 and before that 4.1 camera had some extra options like HDR and all, now most of the settings are composed into single ones, there is also one HDR in manual mode, overall performance is good, now it opens fast.
here i post some pics i took with it, i didnt do any corrections on photos.

Why don't you bump it up and buy a z1 it has a better.camera (I didn't try it my self) a few bucks wouldn't hurt
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OZ22 said:
Hi @ all
I would like to know if the camera of the Xperia Z really improved since the 10.1.1.A.1.253 update:
gsmarena. com/sony_xperia_z_gets_firmware_update_improves_camera_quality-news-6041.php
I'm really interested to buy a Xperia Z but nearly all reviews of the XZ criticised the camera quality, especially pictures taken in low light.
Thanks in advance for your answers and sorry for the link, cant post a working one due to <10 Posts.
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yes get the z1, it's got a better cpu, gpu, camera and battery size, the additional cost for it is worth it

Lol. The photos are mine.

Still auto mode and pics in low light still suck bigtime!! To be hounest, i feel a bit disapointed... The cameras of sony are reasenable good,so i thought that the camera was gonna kick my galaxy nexus his ass,but in low light. My nexus is not kicking sone Xz ass but kills it!
Moral of this story......buy a Z1 whahaha
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demon2112 said:
Still auto mode and pics in low light still suck bigtime!! To be hounest, i feel a bit disapointed... The cameras of sony are reasenable good,so i thought that the camera was gonna kick my galaxy nexus his ass,but in low light. My nexus is not kicking sone Xz ass but kills it!
Moral of this story......buy a Z1 whahaha
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Hahahahaha. Haha.
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demon2112 said:
Still auto mode and pics in low light still suck bigtime!! To be hounest, i feel a bit disapointed... The cameras of sony are reasenable good,so i thought that the camera was gonna kick my galaxy nexus his ass,but in low light. My nexus is not kicking sone Xz ass but kills it!
Moral of this story......buy a Z1 whahaha
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camera on z1 is not anywhere better (except for the mp count)
the hardware (camera) of z1 and is godly, but the software and image processing of sony is...meh.
i'm a fan of sony, but i think they should consider to look into galaxy s4's image processing, even though gs4 and xz has the same sensor, the image quality is different

Yeah definitely agree with u guys, the image quality in low light condition really suck. My xperia z always show purple dots or pixel in the black colored area. It feels like sensor problem, did u guys experienced it as well?? Or is it just me?
Thx
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Please don't complain about the camera i had the chance to try Samsung Note 2, Samsung Galaxy S3, Samsung Galaxy S4, Samsung Note 3 and i can say for a fact that they all do bad pictures for the megapixels they have. Cameras on phones are decent but still not as good as a dedicated digital camera.

Camera on 4.3 sucks! The noise level is crazy! Don't even need to zoom in and I can see the noise very clearly.

Can confirm the s4 comparison. I did a side by side test fiddling with different options and the s4 came out on top. Thought Sony would have the camera software on lock
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dreamville said:
Can confirm the s4 comparison. I did a side by side test fiddling with different options and the s4 came out on top. Thought Sony would have the camera software on lock
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agreed, it's better for sony to focus on their image processing technology, my dad has an s4 and his picture is around 5~10MB per photo, that's a size too large maybe, but the detail is really good, sony should decreasing their over-compressing of the photos.

Some one tried to put Camera libs and app from a 4.2 firmware on 4.3? New Camera for me is really bad
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Yeah definitely agree with u guys, the image quality in low light condition really suck. My xperia z always show purple dots or pixel in the black colored area. It feels like sensor problem, did u guys experienced it as well?? Or is it just me?

nguyenvuloc said:
Yeah definitely agree with u guys, the image quality in low light condition really suck. My xperia z always show purple dots or pixel in the black colored area. It feels like sensor problem, did u guys experienced it as well?? Or is it just me?
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Mine is fine. Is it always there?

CambaStorm said:
Some one tried to put Camera libs and app from a 4.2 firmware on 4.3? New Camera for me is really bad
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Maybe we need someone to make a flashable zip of JB's camera

My friend's S4 takes better pictures in lowlight.
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Xz camera really sucks , my old htc one x tooked a 5times better pictures comparing to this crap camera ,and it was 8mpx ,shame sony did such a good phone with such a disatering camera , and after 5 updates for that phone no improvement ,
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Yeah bit disappointing,it's great when there is plenty light but indoor Is garbage
Sony Ericsson w800,LG viewty,Nokia 5800,HTC wildfire,HTC desire s,Motorola xoom,nexus 7,nexus 4,Xperia z,nexus 7 2

Reclaim of the camera

Hello dear xda users,
as we know, our xperia Z doesn´t have the best camera. I have it for several months. In my case, it makes worse pictures then mid-range devices I used before it, especially in the indoor daylight conditions. I noticed there are some tips to make it better in manual mode, but still it isn´t a win.
So what do you think, could it be reclaimable? Do you have some experience with it?
Thanks for your opinions.

marek.ns said:
Hello dear xda users,
as we know, our xperia Z doesn´t have the best camera. I have it for several months. In my case, it makes worse pictures then mid-range devices I used before it, especially in the indoor daylight conditions. I noticed there are some tips to make it better in manual mode, but still it isn´t a win.
So what do you think, could it be reclaimable? Do you have some experience with it?
Thanks for your opinions.
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Some softwares can help you produce better results.However they would not by nay means increase your camera pixels or anything but only help you focus better with better exposure and produce better colours
Like for example if you snap documents from your phone camera, camscanner can do wonders.
There are other applications for taking pictures as well on playstore.
Quote me if you have any other question

Hnk1 said:
Some softwares can help you produce better results.However they would not by nay means increase your camera pixels or anything but only help you focus better with better exposure and produce better colours
Like for example if you snap documents from your phone camera, camscanner can do wonders.
There are other applications for taking pictures as well on playstore.
Quote me if you have any other question
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Thanks for your answer!
I tried some other camera apps but photos still have ISO set too high what makes big noise at them.
I found some cyber-shot app/xposed module. Does it worth for try, could it make better photos?
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marek.ns said:
Thanks for your answer!
I tried some other camera apps but photos still have ISO set too high what makes big noise at them.
I found some cyber-shot app/xposed module. Does it worth for try, could it make better photos?
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Personally I haven't used it but it's worth a try. You never know if you never try!

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Personally I haven't used it but it's worth a try. You never know if you never try!
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If any software dont improve my photos, could i use my Warranty?
I know it is not about opinion, thats why ask about some experience.

marek.ns said:
If any software dont improve my photos, could i use my Warranty?
I know it is not about opinion, thats why ask about some experience.
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If you think your camera is faulty, only then Sony can help you with your warranty. However you can visit a Sony care and discuss your problem with them. They might be able to help.

Is the Pie camera better?

Hi! I don't mean just the interface, I mean photo quality as well. (In Oreo, the XZ2c is clearly superior...)

landsome said:
Hi! I don't mean just the interface, I mean photo quality as well. (In Oreo, the XZ2c is clearly superior...)
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Now that I bit the bullet and newsflash'ed to Pie, I can answer my own question. It's the new interface, but quality is just as mediocre, clearly worse than the xz2c. No improvement in quality.

landsome said:
Now that I bit the bullet and newsflash'ed to Pie, I can answer my own question. It's the new interface, but quality is just as mediocre, clearly worse than the xz2c. No improvement in quality.
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But Pie has [email protected], which should be better than the previous [email protected]

Aki-Zakura said:
But Pie has [email protected], which should be better than the previous [email protected]
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Perhaps, but I do not really care very much about that. That's a very limited improvement in a rather gimmicky scenario.
I was referring to photo quality generally, which remains clearly inferior to the XZ2c (which is my standard of what I would settle for). Noise reduction is poor, with smudged details, and exposure is lacking in many cases.
Otherwise, the cam app interface is an improvement too over the previous version.

Camera performance on the XZ1c sucks. No change with PIE. I had better pics with my z5c.

try https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/mod-xperia-xz2-camera-port-xperia-xzs-t3771889

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try https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/mod-xperia-xz2-camera-port-xperia-xzs-t3771889
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If I understood correctly, the Pie version doesn't work for XZ1 Compact (yet?)...

vofferz said:
If I understood correctly, the Pie version doesn't work for XZ1 Compact (yet?)...
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xz1c everything works fine for me

Dean F said:
Camera performance on the XZ1c sucks. No change with PIE. I had better pics with my z5c.
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My Z5c was clearly worse.

Dean F said:
Camera performance on the XZ1c sucks. No change with PIE. I had better pics with my z5c.
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The lens and the software have very little to do with the quality of the pictures you take. Just because you pay top dollar for your camera/phone camera, doesn't mean you will take good pictures.
I bet you still have it set to 'auto'

tolya-666 said:
xz1c everything works fine for me
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Are you on Pie? How did you install the mod? In the mod thread many people are saying it doesn't work.

vofferz said:
Are you on Pie? How did you install the mod? In the mod thread many people are saying it doesn't work.
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уеs on pie. install according to the instructions

Didgesteve said:
The lens and the software have very little to do with the quality of the pictures you take.
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Is this a joke?
Why do people buy expensive lens for DSLRs instead of sticking with the default cheap lens then?
Of course it's not just the lens, but what you wrote makes no sense.
Either way, XZ1 (Compact) has absolutely pathetic and ****ty camera and I regret every second of my decision when I was looking for a new phone and bought this piece of crap. My next phone will definitely NOT be anything made by Sony - if only because of the camera.

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- if only because of the camera.
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maybe you have a marriage? good photos are made by camera

tolya-666 said:
maybe you have a marriage? good photos are made by camera
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Yes, the camera is garbage too.
Anything else?

WalrusInAnus said:
Yes, the camera is garbage too.
Anything else?
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If the pictures look so bad perhaps you should switch to using the back camera :laugh:

I've got a Nokia 8 , a z5c and a xz1c.
The Nokia makes very good pictures with gcam app.
Both sonys makes horrible pictures.