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I've installed a few ROMs from this place onto it. I did not SuperCID (just used a HardSPL bypass) it nor SIM Unlock it.
Does this mean that I should be able to undo everything that has been done?
How do I remove HardSPL? Is that possible?
How can I install an original AT&T ROM on it? Where do I find those? I think I found one with Alex's Kitchen, but I'm not sure if that's a full version or what. And what about the AT&T bloat?
Sorry if this is a noob question. I glanced through the Tilt-specific Wiki and the Kaiser Wiki and I didn't see the answer to any of these questions in the FAQs.
see the wiki, there's a howto link for reverting your spl
Oh, awesome. I missed that. I think it was because I was mainly looking through the Tilt-specific Wiki. My mistake.
Here's the thread in case someone else happens accross this one in search of the same advice.
http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/335568/
Just install the original AT&T Rom and you should be fine. I had to send mine in for a warranty exchange last Friday after the radio conked out on it, and got my new one on Monday of this week. Anway, I used the HardSPL too, and I just reflashed the AT&T Rom onto it, put it in the box, slapped the return label on it and sent it on it's merry way
Edit-Somebody on here said they don't check the SPL when they get the defective unit, just that it has the AT&T Rom on it. In fact, I bet they just chuck it in the recyling bin and write it off.
Yeah I'm pretty sure they half inspect the phones. They must get more exchanges than they could deal with. They possibly check the device thoroughly though because it's a high end (dollar) device. Who knows?
I worked in the service department at Best Buy for a while, and I know we didn't check anything when customers returned products. All we did was looked at the stickers on the outside of the products to make sure the serial number, model number, etcetera all matched up, and that was it. As long as those matched up, we could send the devices back to their manufacturers or out to our service centers.
I figured AT&T would operate the same way, but from what I've read on these forums, they do a pretty thorough check. I just wanted to make sure I covered all grounds. Better safe than sorry, y'know?
Yeah, that's true. The guy at the store looked my phone over, and even changed SIM's and agreed something was wrong with the phone's radio, so that's in the notes too.
I found the post I was talking about, it's the first on on the page-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568&page=23
"Just FYI; I recently returned my 8525 to ATT because it was not charging with the car charger.
I flashed back to the latest ATT ROM and then did a second hard reset. I heard last week from ATT the phone was accepted as a core with no problem.
I was told by a friend at ATT that they don't look at CID, but different splash screens will for sure trip up a return.
Just my experience; hope it helps someone."
Warranty issue?
The touchscreen of my phone is not working. Good thing is that i bought it just 8 months before so i guess its still under warranty? (is it?)
After looking around in the forum i get it reverted back to original locked state and now i want to get my warranty from ATT people. Can you please let me know how to proceed? And if anyone has already done this then what steps he followed? Do we need to send our phone back first and then get the newer phone? Or do they give us the newer phone and then we need to send them the older one back?
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The touchscreen of my phone is not working. Good thing is that i bought it just 8 months before so i guess its still under warranty? (is it?)
After looking around in the forum i get it reverted back to original locked state and now i want to get my warranty from ATT people. Can you please let me know how to proceed? And if anyone has already done this then what steps he followed? Do we need to send our phone back first and then get the newer phone? Or do they give us the newer phone and then we need to send them the older one back?
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Just call AT$T, they will check your account to see if you are within warranty. If your problem is within warranty guidelines, they will send you a new (refurb) tilt or if you press, a new (refurb) Fuze ( I would rather have the Tilt ) It usually arrives within five days. It comes with a pre paid return envelope. Take the battery and sim and back cover off the old phone, put them in the new phone. Drop the old one in the envelope. Drop it in the post and you are all set.
If you fail to send the old one back within the time allotted they will bill your account of the full value of the replacement phone. Quick and easy, my replacement phone is over a year old and has worked flawlessly.
My Tilt is maybe 8 months old and decided to stop charging the other night. Unfortunately, I installed a Manila 2D ROM on it some time ago and because it will not recognize the USB cable, I can't roll it back. I'm going to call AT&T today and see about having a replacement shipped to me. I don't think it'll be a problem since it won't turn on and it'll probably be a mail replacement like you described. I'm going to press to get a Fuze, when I ordered the Tilt I paid good money to get it new instead of refurbished and it still stopped working after well under a year of use. If I'm getting a refurbished replacement I'd like the newest model.
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My Tilt is maybe 8 months old and decided to stop charging the other night. Unfortunately, I installed a Manila 2D ROM on it some time ago and because it will not recognize the USB cable, I can't roll it back. I'm going to call AT&T today and see about having a replacement shipped to me. I don't think it'll be a problem since it won't turn on and it'll probably be a mail replacement like you described. I'm going to press to get a Fuze, when I ordered the Tilt I paid good money to get it new instead of refurbished and it still stopped working after well under a year of use. If I'm getting a refurbished replacement I'd like the newest model.
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Unless of course it is a battery issue, and they put in a new battery, see that you have used unapproved software and mark your S/N as immediately out of warranty,.....................I'm just sayin................................
You think that's an issue even exchanging it through the mail?
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You think that's an issue even exchanging it through the mail?
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Do you think they stay in business by by just mailing a new phone to anyone who says, " this is broken, give me anew fuze ?'
I just exchanged my tilt today. My screen broke (the colors became all white and inversed and weird) so I called ATT and they told me to go to this special service warranty store. They looked it over quickly and gave me a new tilt no problem... just make sure you flash the original ATT rom back on it. (They didnt notice I broke the VOID sticker in the screwhole hehe)
PS. I got my tilt last April, and I'm not sure how long the warranty lasts. The guy said I have 90 extra days on this new phone.
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<snip> If your problem is within warranty guidelines, they will send you a new (refurb) tilt or if you press, a new (refurb) Fuze ( I would rather have the Tilt ) </snip>
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Just out of curiosity, why would you rather have the tilt? I've been thinking of upgrading from the tilt to the fuze...
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Just out of curiosity, why would you rather have the tilt? I've been thinking of upgrading from the tilt to the fuze...
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Basically , you can have a brand new Fuze the way AT$T and M$ want it, or you can have a Tilt the way you want it. At present there are three times as many custom roms, more ways to customize it and I absolutely will not give up my Tilt screen. After a year of customizing my Tilt to perfection on this site, there is absolutely nothing about the Fuze that interests me.
I'm thinking about sending my Tilt back. It's bricked for some reason. I bought a new (OEM) battery because I thought I had battery problems, still nothing. If AT&T gets a phone that won't even power up what happens, I have hard spl and a flashed rom?
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If AT&T gets a phone that won't even power up what happens, I have hard spl and a flashed rom?
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If they manage to resusitate it or even read the flash memory contents (if it's possible to hotwire a car, who knows what can be done with a TyTN II and both of these would be possible), then when they see it's not running an approved ROM/SPL they may act like a bull and charge!
Anyone who runs a custom ROM on a phone thats still under warranty runs that risk should a problem occur that makes it difficult to flash back to original spec.
denco7 I agree entirely with your comments re the importance of a tilting screen but now HTC have developed the Touch Pro 2 (which has a tilting screen) there may soon be a real successor for the Kaiser released to the market. I don't know which providers will pick it up or where it'll be sold though.
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If they manage to resusitate it or even read the flash memory contents (if it's possible to hotwire a car, who knows what can be done with a TyTN II and both of these would be possible), then when they see it's not running an approved ROM/SPL they may act like a bull and charge!
Anyone who runs a custom ROM on a phone thats still under warranty runs that risk should a problem occur that makes it difficult to flash back to original spec.
Does the same thing apply if it's not under warranty but has insurance from at&t on it?
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I need to have my Tilt serviced under AT&T warranty and I was wondering if anyone has had experience with the Device Support Center?
I am debating whether I should use the mail exchange or take the phone to the Device Support Center.
I understand that you only get a refurbished replacement using the mail exchange.
My question is, if you get your phone exchanged at the Device Support Center, do you get a new unit or a refurbished unit? The AT&T website says that they will "swap" the phone, but no mention of whether i's a new or refurbed unit.
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I need to have my Tilt serviced under AT&T warranty and I was wondering if anyone has had experience with the Device Support Center?
I am debating whether I should use the mail exchange or take the phone to the Device Support Center.
I understand that you only get a refurbished replacement using the mail exchange.
My question is, if you get your phone exchanged at the Device Support Center, do you get a new unit or a refurbished unit? The AT&T website says that they will "swap" the phone, but no mention of whether i's a new or refurbed unit.
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i did the mail exchanged and i got a refurbished one it took a week tho but you couldnt tell its refurbished been using it for a couple of months now and it just like brand new
Pretty much all places will give you a refurb after 30 days. Should they give you a new one if your used one is broken?
Traditionally the DSC only carries refurbs in stock. The best way to get a NEW model would be to call the warranty dept over the phone and request a new model. However, it is not a garauntee that they will reissue you a new phone unless they no longer have any seed stock equipment in stock.
But, AT&T fully tests the refurbished models before placing them in stock and should a refurb go bad, then you are welcome to call the warranty dept again stating that the refurb has gone bad and to replace it with a new one so that the problem doesnt continue to happen or get worse.
Lastly, keep in mind that regardless of when you get a phone from the DSC or the Warranty Dept, the ORIGINAL warranty still applies. So they only warranty the phone for 1 year from the original phone purchase date or 90 days if the phone is outside of the 1 year after replacement.
Hope this helps.
Glenn
Oh I think we have an at&t employee or ex employee trolling around the forum.
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Pretty much all places will give you a refurb after 30 days. Should they give you a new one if your used one is broken?
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I don't mind getting a refurb unit, but I don't want to end up with one of those earlier models with the usb/battery problem.
I was trying to see if anyone has had any experience with getting the phone exchanged at the "Device Support Center." Since ATT exchanges the device on site, I guess I could at least make sure the phone functions and that there're no visible defects.
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Oh I think we have an at&t employee or ex employee trolling around the forum.
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lol... Yes, Im a DM for an AT&T Authorized Retailer in Jacksonville.
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lol... Yes, Im a DM for an AT&T Authorized Retailer in Jacksonville.
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Oh it shows with your carefully scripted reply. (I'm not saying you were reading from one, just that you probley say it just like that all the time)
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I don't mind getting a refurb unit, but I don't want to end up with one of those earlier models with the usb/battery problem.
I was trying to see if anyone has had any experience with getting the phone exchanged at the "Device Support Center." Since ATT exchanges the device on site, I guess I could at least make sure the phone functions and that there're no visible defects.
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I got my AT&T Tilt exchanged twice at the DSC in San Diego, California. They only carry refurbs but you really couldn't tell (well, I could for the first refurb I got...).
I'm not sure what 'usb/battery problem' you're referring to as my original Tilt that I got back in October 2007 didn't have that problem. Anyway, the two refurbs that I got were already loaded with the 'latest' ROM update released from HTC+AT&T.
Hope it helps.
Just a bit of info.
My dad's star trek's usb port died on him. AT&T sent him a wizard to replace it.
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Oh it shows with your carefully scripted reply. (I'm not saying you were reading from one, just that you probley say it just like that all the time)
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i do say things like that a lot. besides one of my stores is 2 blocks from the local DSC so it gets said more there than anywhere else.
ok for people who have actually been to a DSC...what is their protocol? do they carefully inspect the devices warranty voiding spots (black void sticker over back housing screw and white water damage pad) and do they inspect for physical damage closely?
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My phone connects when I get a call but no voice on either end. The only way to get out of this is to reset my phone. Had to do it so much that Ive called in for an exchange under warranty.
They told me it will be a refurb since that is the only thing they can do. I even tried the Kit box with the battery (which they are replacing since my battery is not holding charge) but they are sending it seperately.
My question is for the exchange, is the refurb any good and did it solve your problems?
Is there anyway I can get them to give me a new phone since mine is less than 6 months old.
I did an exchange because one of the keys on the keyboard was going out. The refurb they sent me had the same problem but worse, so I sent it back for another refurb and I'm happy with that one. Somebody once said that after 3 refurb exchanges they'll send you a new one, but I don't work for AT&T so I can't verify if that's correct.
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I did an exchange because one of the keys on the keyboard was going out. The refurb they sent me had the same problem but worse, so I sent it back for another refurb and I'm happy with that one. Somebody once said that after 3 refurb exchanges they'll send you a new one, but I don't work for AT&T so I can't verify if that's correct.
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Uh huh das right
I did a warranty exchange on my tilt because the miniUsb port cracked. The device they gave me was like new, i actually thought it was new, till about a week later i decided to call and check and they told me most likely its a refurb... honestly i can't tell if it is or if its new.
ALso about your issue, did you recently upgrade to a 6.1 rom and not change the radio? that would cause no sound..
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fone_fanatic said:
I did a warranty exchange on my tilt because the miniUsb port cracked. The device they gave me was like new, i actually thought it was new, till about a week later i decided to call and check and they told me most likely its a refurb... honestly i can't tell if it is or if its new.
ALso about your issue, did you recently upgrade to a 6.1 rom and not change the radio? that would cause no sound..
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thanks for the info. I did upgrade to 6.1 via HTC website that I think also updated my radio. I currently have radio #1.65.21.18
Could this be my problem?
that is a wm 6.1 radio, but still, some radios don't work well with some roms, check AllTheWay's Ultimate Radio Thread for more info.
I love peoples reasoning for not deserving a refurb. I've worked at places like Dell and Acer and I just love when people argue. "it was new when I bought it"
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I love peoples reasoning for not deserving a refurb. I've worked at places like Dell and Acer and I just love when people argue. "it was new when I bought it"
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As someone who has been on the receiving end of several Dell computers, you are correct that this argument doesn't hold water since Dell takes pride in the full reconditioning of it's refurbished units.
However, as someone who needed to exchange 4 Tilts within 2 weeks due to the total lack of quality control on [insert random 3rd party company here]'s part, I understand why some people are hesitant to accept a refurb phone.
When I finally had enough of dealing with the warranty group and called business customer care, the woman on the phone transferred me to someone back in Warranty who told me that AT&T doesn't even handle the refurb business, and the entire process (including QC and shipping) is done by a 3rd party company.
Yes you can be very unlucky with refurbs but the same applies with brand new phones too.
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that is a wm 6.1 radio, but still, some radios don't work well with some roms, check AllTheWay's Ultimate Radio Thread for more info.
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are u saying that there is a better radio for the stock 6.1 rom than what it comes with?
could this be my issue on the new sound?
NotATreoFan said:
As someone who has been on the receiving end of several Dell computers, you are correct that this argument doesn't hold water since Dell takes pride in the full reconditioning of it's refurbished units.
However, as someone who needed to exchange 4 Tilts within 2 weeks due to the total lack of quality control on [insert random 3rd party company here]'s part, I understand why some people are hesitant to accept a refurb phone.
When I finally had enough of dealing with the warranty group and called business customer care, the woman on the phone transferred me to someone back in Warranty who told me that AT&T doesn't even handle the refurb business, and the entire process (including QC and shipping) is done by a 3rd party company.
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That lady flat out lied to ya, I have personally been in the ATT department were they recondition MOST devices. And yes tilt's are done there as well, to a certain extent, they clean them and replace screens, keypads, basic stuff. I cant even begin to explain the morons working there, my 7yr old could do a better job and he would have fun doing it.
Anyone have any experience yet getting a Captivate replaced through the warranty department at 800-801-1101?
My sister got her phone on launch day, past few days the screen has really been acting up, and it's now just outside the 30 day store return period.
Anybody try getting a replacement from the warranty department? I'm figuring they have replacements available but I want to check before I waste my time calling in.
When my first captivate was randomly shutting down and the store I purchased it at was having a hard time keeping them stocked I called ATT and the guy said they absolutely could just send me another, but urged me to go to the store, call him back, and let him on the phone with the clerk so he could credit my return immediately and I could go elsewhere to buy another that same day, thus not eating anymore of my 30 days. So yeah, long story short, they can replace it right away from what I was told.
screw att. lol
go to the nearby att service center and replace it.
Several months ago, I woke up one morning to a phone that refused to charge, power on, or otherwise do anything.
Walked into an AT&T Warranty place, 30 minutes later, left with a new phone.
I purchased a captivate back in December at Sam's club and luckily haven't had any real issues with it(1010 build). My wifes been bugging me since then, that she wanted one, so I just bought another one off craigslist (0610 build).
I was curious to see what anyones thoughts are on this.
1st) The craigslist one has a small crack in the plastic casing around the charger door, so the door is kinda sunk in a little, but still works properly. I'm just a little worried that down the road it may become an issue.
2nd) It seams to have some of the gps issues. When running stock it will hardly pick up anything. I flashed a few other roms on it incorporating the various gps fixes, and Paragon seams to work best. But it still wont pull in a tight lock.
So my question is:
Do you think I could do a warranty exchange on the Craigslist one through the Att repair center? Basically pretending its the one I purchased through Sam's or will they be able to figure out that there 2 different phones?
Well, that's fraud but if you feel you must I would just play dumb like you didn't know and must have mixed up the phones. Heh
Not likely since they will have the IMEI record of the original purchaser. But go ahead and try. Come back and tell us how it worked out.
I have seen where many have gotten at&t to warranty their phone even though it was not purchased from them.
Try samsung, their stupider
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I have seen where many have gotten at&t to warranty their phone even though it was not purchased from them.
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Of course they will warranty a phone purchased by the original owner from another authorized retailer (I bought mine from Radio Shack and AT$T replaced the first 2), but they have zero obligation to warranty a phone to a 3rd party purchaser that bought the phone used. Most warranties are not transferable and are only good to the original purchaser.
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Of course they will warranty a phone purchased by the original owner from another authorized retailer (I bought mine from Radio Shack and AT$T replaced the first 2), but they have zero obligation to warranty a phone to a 3rd party purchaser that bought the phone used. Most warranties are not transferable and are only good to the original purchaser.
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I was referring to people who have bought via Craigslist and eBay as that was what was being discussed. I know they have no obligation but have read many people say they have.
Thanks anyway for your expert insight :/
Fried my phone the other day and had the power off issue.... went into my local AT&T warranty center and they hooked me up with a Refurb in about 20 minutes - no questions asked.
IF you have insurance and it's within the 1rst year of the phone's life they should replace it as long as it's not water damaged related.
(And... I had Serendipity back on it when I got home much to my wife's chagrin)
Note: The kid actually seemed to know what he was talking about too strangely enough. Knew about the IMEI range issue and claimed that the refurbs - even if they have the problematic range should be find as they replaced teh internal hardware.
I have a 1011 build now - and it seems to be working great (sans typical GPS BS)
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I was referring to people who have bought via Craigslist and eBay as that was what was being discussed. I know they have no obligation but have read many people say they have.
Thanks anyway for your expert insight :/
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There are authorized AT&T resellers on eBay. Craig's list is pretty much used only. Since AT$T has acknowledged a manufacturing defect issue with some of these phones, they will probably replace ones that fall within the affected IMEI range regardless where/when it was purchased. You may have to badger them a bit, but they generally prefer to just exchange it rather than lose a customer. Unfortunately, as the OP has told us, this particular phone has some visible physical damage. On that basis AT$T is unlikely to replace it for free as they will probably say any malfunction is related to that damage and not any manufacturing defect. That's my expert insight on it.
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Try samsung, their stupider
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If you don't know how to spell "they're," maybe you shouldn't be calling anyone stupid.
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If you don't know how to spell "they're," maybe you shouldn't be calling anyone stupid.
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i bought my phone off craigslist used, and when i bricked it as a newbie, called samsung for any info. as it was under a year old they took it back and repaired it free of charge. thank you! lol!
You'll either be completely out of luck and get a refurbished phone that will break in 91 days, or get a brand new phone with the same 90 day warranty that will take roughly 10 months to break.
I got lucky; the first refurbished replacement that I got was dead on arrival, so it gave me leverage to scream at ATT for being crap.
You can tell if your phone is refurbished or new by looking at the label under the battery cover; if it is white with ugly font and no indication of the Samsung logo, it's refurbished. If the logo is present, your phone is new.
I saw a SGT that is hanging at the bootlogo on ebay.
it's ending tomorrow, so any answers till then would be appreciated.
I hope I understood it correctly from what the seller wrote.
Is this easy to fix and how?
Im hoping to save some €uros, would it be a good idea if I can get it cheaper?
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one more question. is there a clockworkmod bootable sdcard for the tab or what do I have to do to flash a new rom?
Mate, there are a lot of reasons the tab isn't booting. You may not be able to recover this.
I personally wouldn't buy a tab thats not booting, there could be a hardware problem and then those euros you spent have just been thrown away as you can't return the tab. You were fully aware there was a problem before you bought it....
Good idea is to visit other countries ebay, you may get a tab for cheap though do make sure it is compatible with your networks and the seller is happy to sell overseas...
seller writes it was like that when he got it?
is this possible at all?
or must he have done something to it, like flashing a rom and doing something wrong so that he cant recover it.
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seller writes it was like that when he got it?
is this possible at all?
or must he have done something to it, like flashing a rom and doing something wrong so that he cant recover it.
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Well, if you buy it from him like that you would then be able to claim it was like that when you got it. It could be anything, as stated before, and I wouldn't touch it unless it was super cheap and I could use it for parts. Mine was brand new and after having it for almost a month it had to go in for repair (covered under warranty, but still a pain). Since you will likely not be covered under warranty, I just wouldn't bother.
he is sending the original slip with the device.
someone bought it for 301€, quite a lot.