Upgrade or downgrade to Nexus 7 2013? - Nexus 7 General

I love my original Nexus 7.. but it's finally starting to fall apart. I'm a super power user and take the thing everywhere and it's just beat to hell.
So here's the question.. upgrade to a new Nexus or buy another original nexus?
Lots of complaints on the new one out there.. rattle in the camera, bad touchscreen issues, more..
If you own both.. that's the comments I'd really like to hear. What do you think of one vs the other?

Facing the same dilemma, I have an opportunity to sell my N7 and get the 2nd generation.
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Ill say wait for nexus 7 2014 edition. 2012 can handle any thing u can throw at it so why waste money. U waited this long. You sure can wait little longer too.
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joshag said:
I love my original Nexus 7.. but it's finally starting to fall apart. I'm a super power user and take the thing everywhere and it's just beat to hell.
So here's the question.. upgrade to a new Nexus or buy another original nexus?
Lots of complaints on the new one out there.. rattle in the camera, bad touchscreen issues, more..
If you own both.. that's the comments I'd really like to hear. What do you think of one vs the other?
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I'm in the same boat - my original Nexus 7 was replaced after a month or so because of a screen fault. The replacement then suffered horrendous battery drain (~70% overnight when off!) after an Android update, so it also went back to Google. I replaced it with the 2013 model, which clearly had touch screen issues straight out of the box and random freezes, so back it went too, this time to Amazon who I bought it from - I'll never again buy anything from Google!.
In the month since it went back I've been considering what to do, and in all honesty I'm looking at avoiding Nexus 7's altogether, because of the problems and also because Google's customer service is simply the absolute worst I've ever encountered.
I have a large Amazon gift certificate balance which would cover the cost of the 2013 Nexus 7, but if I *was* to buy another Nexus 7 I think I'd go for the 2012 model and hope that the KitKat upgrade didn't cause any battery issues. Also by buying from Amazon there'll be no hassle if (when?) things go wrong.
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xateeq said:
Ill say wait for nexus 7 2014 edition. 2012 can handle any thing u can throw at it so why waste money. U waited this long. You sure can wait little longer too.
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If I didn't need to replace my 1st Gen I would be fine.. but I do have to replace it. I just don't know which way to go..

sb101 said:
I'm in the same boat - my original Nexus 7 was replaced after a month or so because of a screen fault. The replacement then suffered horrendous battery drain (~70% overnight when off!) after an Android update, so it also went back to Google. I replaced it with the 2013 model, which clearly had touch screen issues straight out of the box and random freezes, so back it went too, this time to Amazon who I bought it from - I'll never again buy anything from Google!.
In the month since it went back I've been considering what to do, and in all honesty I'm looking at avoiding Nexus 7's altogether, because of the problems and also because Google's customer service is simply the absolute worst I've ever encountered.
I have a large Amazon gift certificate balance which would cover the cost of the 2013 Nexus 7, but if I *was* to buy another Nexus 7 I think I'd go for the 2012 model and hope that the KitKat upgrade didn't cause any battery issues. Also by buying from Amazon there'll be no hassle if (when?) things go wrong.
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I didn't have any issue with my google tablet. I bought my first one off of someone who had used it for about 6 months and I've used it every day at work and at home. Rooted, modded and ran like a champ. I put so many miles on it that it's starting to fall apart around itself. But I've loved everything about it. For the price I haven't used anything that even comes close. (IMO)
On paper the 2013 is closer to what I'm looking for.. but man are there are lot of complaints about it online.. definitely has me a bit nervous.

joshag said:
I didn't have any issue with my google tablet. I bought my first one off of someone who had used it for about 6 months and I've used it every day at work and at home. Rooted, modded and ran like a champ. I put so many miles on it that it's starting to fall apart around itself. But I've loved everything about it. For the price I haven't used anything that even comes close. (IMO)
On paper the 2013 is closer to what I'm looking for.. but man are there are lot of complaints about it online.. definitely has me a bit nervous.
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Well I suppose the safest thing would be to buy the 2013 model from Amazon, and if you have problems just return it for a refund. Any touch screen problems will show up before 30 days - mine showed up during the initial set-up process!

If you have to then nexus 7 2013 is your best bang for the buck.

xateeq said:
If you have to then nexus 7 2013 is your best bang for the buck.
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But it's also the most hassle...

sb101 said:
But it's also the most hassle...
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how ?

Just buy the new one from a store and if you have problems return it within the return period.
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xateeq said:
how ?
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Because of the touch screen issues (touches not registering or registering in a different place, phantom touches etc.) and frequent freezes. Google them.

sb101 said:
Because of the touch screen issues (touches not registering or registering in a different place, phantom touches etc.) and frequent freezes. Google them.
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I am sure the issues are not that wide spread, if you look closely at any electronic device the first batch is always not 100%. pick any device ull find problems. its like after software now devices are also in beta state so buy nexus 7 2013 and check if u find problem then replace and if the problem still exist then replace with some alternative. Remember the power u want is only available with nexus devices or els u cn always check galaxy tab and that will cost u more so basically wither u get the latest update with fairly powerful device with low price point or slow updates super power and less issues. choice is yours.

xateeq said:
I am sure the issues are not that wide spread, if you look closely at any electronic device the first batch is always not 100%. pick any device ull find problems. its like after software now devices are also in beta state so buy nexus 7 2013 and check if u find problem then replace and if the problem still exist then replace with some alternative. Remember the power u want is only available with nexus devices or els u cn always check galaxy tab and that will cost u more so basically wither u get the latest update with fairly powerful device with low price point or slow updates super power and less issues. choice is yours.
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What an odd outlook. I've already had the Nexus 2013 which as I said was faulty straight out of the box. I am not alone in this as there are indeed *many* people having problems with it, and I won't be buying another as I'm not paying to be a beta tester.
You should check yours as you seem to be missing many letters

lol i am using 2012 version and yeah i am bad at typing and yes i am worse when it comes to touch screen keyboards but since you asked question in 2012 version nexus 7 thread u should expect a 2012 fan

xateeq said:
lol i am using 2012 version and yeah i am bad at typing and yes i am worse when it comes to touch screen keyboards but since you asked question in 2012 version nexus 7 thread u should expect a 2012 fan
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I'm not keen on touch keyboards either, which is a slight problem with a tablet! Lol!
Are you using KitKat on your 2012 N7? I'm still tempted to buy another if KK's working ok on it. I read some reports that it broke 3G and disabled SMS apps in favour of Google's own (can't remember what it's called), but as I'd go for the WiFi only model these problems wouldn't matter to be. And besides, they're quite cheap now.

sb101 said:
I'm not keen on touch keyboards either, which is a slight problem with a tablet! Lol!
Are you using KitKat on your 2012 N7? I'm still tempted to buy another if KK's working ok on it. I read some reports that it broke 3G and disabled SMS apps in favour of Google's own (can't remember what it's called), but as I'd go for the WiFi only model these problems wouldn't matter to be. And besides, they're quite cheap now.
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Yeah i am using 2012 WiFi version and yes i have kitkat and for me it is just butter smoothness with sweet speed. i am mostly on stock unlocked bootloader rooted and few mods (nothing especial just minor stuff that mattered to me).

I'll say wait next tablet
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I just replaced my 12 N7 with a new 13 N7. Bought from Amazon. No issues yet. Used about a week so far. Much quicker/smoother than the 12 model IMO. For the money, its tough to beat.
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How do you tell which version you have?
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I'm never buying a non-Nexus device again

I've had the N7 for less than a day and I'm head over heels in love with it. My next phone will be a Nexus for sure.
Useless thread but I just had to share the love.
If everyone bought Nexus devices because of the prompt updates, it would kick other manufacturers into investing in larger software development teams to deliver updates ontime.
clankfu said:
I've had the N7 for less than a day and I'm head over heels in love with it. My next phone will be a Nexus for sure.
Useless thread but I just had to share the love.
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As long as there is a choice I will always go for a Nexus, can't be bothered with manufacturers' customisations and carrier restrictions. Whether the Nexus or similar concept will go on indefinitely is another matter.
aliburns said:
Whether the Nexus or similar concept will go on indefinitely is another matter.
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Any reason why it wouldn't? Aren't they supposed to come out with multiple Nexus phones sometime at the end of this year?
Many people have felt this way for a while now. Welcome to the club! I laugh at people when i get asked "are you getting the galaxy s3?" I did make the mistake of getting the Verizon nexus, but i paid the etf and bought the gsm unlocked nexus. Now I'm back to our Google and my n7 is on its way. Google shipped it yesterday!
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clankfu said:
Any reason why it wouldn't? Aren't they supposed to come out with multiple Nexus phones sometime at the end of this year?
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If profits at Google fall at some point they may take resources away from the hardware side and concentrate on the software side. Wouldn't like to see that happen but can't be discounted.
If, as seems likely, the Nexus 7 becomes the top-selling Android tablet other manufacturers may decide to withdraw from the sector as they can't compete against a company using consumable sales profits in the Play Store to effectively subsidise their manufacturing costs. Alternatively there could be some form of unfair competition or monopoly complaint. Hope not but wouldn't rule it out.
clankfu said:
I've had the N7 for less than a day and I'm head over heels in love with it. My next phone will be a Nexus for sure.
Useless thread but I just had to share the love.
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seriously.. you really make me envy.. i hope i could have it soon enough..
That it runs stock standard un-bastardised Android is almost at the top of my list of benefits beaten only by screen quality and weight.
clankfu said:
I've had the N7 for less than a day and I'm head over heels in love with it. My next phone will be a Nexus for sure.
Useless thread but I just had to share the love.
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Lol I love this little device solo much that I bought a Mifi and am gonna try to use this as my phone replacement along with Google voice
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Same here I'll never get another android phone besides the next nexus... I bought a Galaxy Note and it took Samsung almost 5months to get ICS which to me is still buggy as hell. I'm Glad I kept my Galaxy
Nexus... I took my gnex out of the box just because of jelly bean, the thing is like a brand new phone! So I had no choice to get the matching tablet!
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I feel the same way now. I'd like to get one that works with my VZW account but I don't trust buying one through VZW.
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That it runs stock standard un-bastardised Android is almost at the top of my list of benefits beaten only by screen quality and weight.
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Amen to that brotha. I'm loving the nexus7 stock android, and the next phone will be a Gnex.
this kind of posts kinda urges me to buy m7 immediately even more..
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Lol I love this little device solo much that I bought a Mifi and am gonna try to use this as my phone replacement along with Google voice
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So... You are gonna use a 7 inch device as a phone? Kinda extreme
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My first super phone was the Atrix 4g waited forever for gingerbread.... was super extra pissed ! Flushed it down the toilet purchased a gsm nexus now life is goooooooooood!
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clankfu said:
I've had the N7 for less than a day and I'm head over heels in love with it. My next phone will be a Nexus for sure.
Useless thread but I just had to share the love.
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Seriously, thank you for this.
I was worried when I first came on the Nexus sub-forum, that there was a lot of negativity and issues. And granted there are bad experiences with every first run of any product.... but this is the first phone/media device purchase that I have actually been fairly content with it out of the box. My phone (Samsung Vibrant) I have gotten tired the last few months of flashing it weekly since I bought it.
Of course, I am bound to run into things, but I felt the same way clankfu
housry23 said:
Many people have felt this way for a while now. Welcome to the club! I laugh at people when i get asked "are you getting the galaxy s3?" I did make the mistake of getting the Verizon nexus, but i paid the etf and bought the gsm unlocked nexus. Now I'm back to our Google and my n7 is on its way. Google shipped it yesterday!
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Housry! Sup buddy? Haven't seen you since the Evo 3D days (or cm7 nightmares). I had the Verizon Nexus and loved the hell out of it. I have the GSIII now and also love it. Got my N7 yesterday and love that too lol.
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The solution for the OEMS is to keep stock jellybean! To differentiate, include new or different hardware or form factor etc. Then put exclusive apps or features that don't require a change of the system. You could have the play store check for something unique to allow the product download or something. That way there would be no problem keeping it current.
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The solution for the OEMS is to keep stock jellybean! To differentiate, include new or different hardware or form factor etc. Then put exclusive apps or features that don't require a change of the system. You could have the play store check for something unique to allow the product download or something. That way there would be no problem keeping it current.
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I don't see why HTC couldn't do that with their HTC Sense. It's essentially a launcher.

Am I the only one here with a Flawless N7?

All this talk about dead pixels,dust, screens coming apart etc. I have not one issue with my Rooted N7 and my First ever tablet .
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I've only had mine for 12hrs so far ..... don't want to jinx anything so I'll leave it at that for now I'll get back to you in a week.
Lord_Xovon said:
All this talk about dead pixels,dust, screens coming apart etc. I have not one issue with my Rooted N7 and my First ever tablet .
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I think most people who get a defective unit complain... while most that don't have no reason to post that they rec'd a great product. I myself have a flawless one as well. Plus 5 of my friends...
I'm about to be on my third and my patience is starting to run thin. May keep the next one regardless and RMA direct with Asus. Scary that I'm actually expecting it to be faulty and hope its broken enough for RMA.
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I have no issues with either of mine (both are 16g pre order units.)
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No issues here.
99% of the noise is either people with WAY out of kilter expectations for a £160 tablet, or are simply Apple shills.
You also have to consider that on forums like this, you will only ever hear from people with problems. Nobody comes here to say things are running fine.
Every device has manufacturing issues for sure, but considering the high numbers of Nexus7 devices shipped, and the rock-bottom pricing, it's actually rather good. Although try telling gutter press reporters like The Register and Engadget this, they will stir up an old crap if it means website hits. Both sites have destroyed their credibility in recent years over desperate fanboy reporting.
Lord_Xovon said:
All this talk about dead pixels,dust, screens coming apart etc. I have not one issue with my Rooted N7 and my First ever tablet .
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Mine is 100% perfect. The couple of people that I know personally with N7's have no issues either. I'm starting to think there is a lot more fiction than fact in these forums.
No issues at all. Screen is flush. Ran a display test and no dead pixels. All is well
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had the thing less than 24 hrs:
screen good no dead pixels or flicker or construction problems
headphone socket seems ok
speaker volume in the normal range
only quandary is which gel case to buy ...
You sure you have a flawless nexus 7? Please make a video and post it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1789450
Download the multitouch test app, put your tablet on the table and make the axis cross, like in the OP video.
Thank you very much, we really need your feedback to know if we should RMA it. Cheers!
Nope. Mine is flawless.
Another 100% perfect tablet here. This is my first tablet and I have to say that it is unbelievable, especially at this price point. I really think that both the hardware and software on this thing gives us a snapshot into the future of these devices.
I already want to integrate jellybean into some sort of home automation system. With Google Now the possibilities are very cool.
Everything is great except looking on the centre of the left long side the screen is like half a mm lifted but don't mind it and wouldn't have noticed it if I didn't know what to look for
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I to have a good unit. Got paranoid, thought I had dead pixel, but it was a speck of dirt.
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Got to play with a brand new one for a week, flawless.. I've now seen 3 additional units, they look ok as well.
Don't know of anyone personally who has one with any issues yet. None of these people use forums.
Via my HTC Rezound
After a few hours fine so far, touch wood.
No dead/stuck pixels.
No sign of screen lift, though I gather this may not be immediately evident.
Don't notice any ghosting.
Thought headphone socket was broken till I realised you need to push a bit harder than I'm used to on other devices to get them to click in place.
Only small glitch was while undergoing a lot of switching between different wifi options (testing speeds on home wifi, mobile tether blue tooth tether etc) settings force closed and sound stopped working till after reboot.
Free content is junk like I expected.
After unlocking bootloader used another email seem to have a second offering of credit. Didn't have card registered so it says I'll get credit when I register a card. Will wait till I have used first credit and know more about any repercussions for this.
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I got a good one.Everything works well and I am very pleased with it.
Of course I am older that a lot of you guys and might just not be so picky about things that don't matter to me.:laugh:
jaroslavj said:
You sure you have a flawless nexus 7? Please make a video and post it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1789450
Download the multitouch test app, put your tablet on the table and make the axis cross, like in the OP video.
Thank you very much, we really need your feedback to know if we should RMA it. Cheers!
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Why should someone seek out a defect they wouldn't ordinarily notice or care about? Yes, you can be a hypochondriac when it comes to electronics too. Realistically we all have "something wrong" with us at any given time, and the same thing can be said about your electronic device.
Each and every device (not just N7s) out there has some kind of "minor defect" (and by that I mean doesn't work precisely as the owner might expect). The point is, owner who aren't obsessed about having a "perfect" device don't run 20 different diagnostic apps to try to hunt down that "defect".
I'm not saying every person who complains about a defect is a hypochondriac, there are definitively a select few real issues out there just like their always have been and always will be with every electronic device. However, there are many many more people who will just never be pleased, like those who have had multiple RMAs.
I have had mine since the 17th, no problems yet.
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16 gig pre-order from the PS and I haven't noticed any issues

Wanna buy but afraid

The N7 isnt being sold in my country, so some friends will be visiting the USA this month and i want them to buy me one. The thing is, after reading about some of the problems the device has, and people returning it 3-4-5 times, im afraid im gonna get a defective device and then im screwed cuz i wont have any store to go and replace it.
My Nexus7 has no problems at all and I love it. Its well worth the price I paid for the 16GB.
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I'm from India and I'm also afraid about product quality. Here getting 8GB model for $250. I want to know, is nexus 7 supports USB on the go feature so that I can use pen drive for external storage? and what are cons you guys faced with your nexus 7 yet?
Guys, don't step out in the road, you have more chance of getting hit by a bus than you have of getting a bad N7!
The N7 works with all kinds of external storage but you need to root it first, there's good instructions on what to do on these forums when you need them.
/edit, just had a thought, those might not be very good odds in India
As someone who has received three units with screen lifting, I wouldn't caution you as strongly as you might expect me to.
That's the only really common defect, and in most cases it is not severe enough to affect usage. The last two I received have been minor cases of separation. The reason I won't accept this flaw is because of the possibility that it will worsen over time, but keep in mind that this is speculative.
My experience with the device has been overwhelmingly positive aside from this, and if the Nexus 7 is right for you then it may be worth purchasing even if you do get one with the kind of separation I've been dealing with. Although the warranty friendly fixes have been found to be temporary, if it bothers you that much then good old fashioned super glue will do the trick. Many who have gone through multiple returns have decided that they like the tablet enough to dispense with this RMA business and jimmy it down themselves.
Don't let anyone tell you that screen lifting is a rare thing, but it's not the end of the world. This is a great device even with the fault.
You can get your friend to check it for you and if its bad return it on the spot.
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Troute said:
Guys, don't step out in the road, you have more chance of getting hit by a bus than you have of getting a bad N7!
The N7 works with all kinds of external storage but you need to root it first, there's good instructions on what to do on these forums when you need them.
/edit, just had a thought, those might not be very good odds in India
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I'm new in this forum and know nothing about rooting, but I would love to root my nexus 7 if someone give me link to proper instructions.
And yea the price for 8GB Nexus 7 is best anyone can get in India right now. On ebay india it costs approx 320$ for 8GB N7.
So buying N7 8GB for 8GB is a great deal for me.
Is there any chance that by now there is an already free defects batch rolling out?
I remember when the HTC Sensation came out it had also multiple issues. I bought mine about 5 months later and had no issues at all. I cant do it here because either i buy it this month or i wont buy it at all
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@Dr. Sheldon take a look at the android development sub-section in the Nexus 7 forum. There are several methods of rooting the device, most of them requires little interactions with the device.
Also, the ones who have had defects are among the thousands who haven't encountered any problems, so your odds should be pretty good. Best luck to you mate.
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mazinya said:
The N7 isnt being sold in my country, so some friends will be visiting the USA this month and i want them to buy me one. The thing is, after reading about some of the problems the device has, and people returning it 3-4-5 times, im afraid im gonna get a defective device and then im screwed cuz i wont have any store to go and replace it.
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Don't be afraid, that's what Apple want to to feel. That's where this whole myth of Nexus7 problems originate from...
The vast majority of Nexus7's are fine. You only hear about the ones with problems.. (or claimed problems. I suspect only 10% of those are genuine, the other 90% Apple viral marketing at work).
People here are saying there's a small amount of defective n7s but I'm on my third one. First 2 had dead pixels, and my current one has screen lift. Guess I have extremely bad luck
I got mine overseas and notice screen flickering and screen tear the first day.
I also cannot return it.
But I pop it open (easy enough) and tighten the screw, it seems to fix the screen tear.
Only notice the tear once yesterday after a whole week. And people on forum already has solution for flickering.
So I cannot settle if it is hardware or software related.
I think for the price of half an iPad, it is lighter and smaller.
So I can definitely deal with the small imperfection.
So go ahead and get it.
mazinya said:
The N7 isnt being sold in my country, so some friends will be visiting the USA this month and i want them to buy me one. The thing is, after reading about some of the problems the device has, and people returning it 3-4-5 times, im afraid im gonna get a defective device and then im screwed cuz i wont have any store to go and replace it.
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The very vocal minority here may have problems, but the majority (the 99% lol) have no issues. If there was a global issue, I'm sure you'd hear about it on NBC/Fox/CrApple News/etc. I have my Nexus, no issues and I love the thing. Great device and no regrets!
Dr. Sheldon Cooper said:
I'm new in this forum and know nothing about rooting, but I would love to root my nexus 7 if someone give me link to proper instructions.
And yea the price for 8GB Nexus 7 is best anyone can get in India right now. On ebay india it costs approx 320$ for 8GB N7.
So buying N7 8GB for 8GB is a great deal for me.
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Dr. Sheldon Cooper said:
I'm from India and I'm also afraid about product quality. Here getting 8GB model for $250. I want to know, is nexus 7 supports USB on the go feature so that I can use pen drive for external storage? and what are cons you guys faced with your nexus 7 yet?
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Hi Dr. Sheldon
I have hours worth of videos on the Nexus 7. Showing OTG functionality(mouse/keyboard, remotes, usb hubs, controllers, camera connection and control), how to root, comparison, NFC in action, streaming your desktop screen, and more. My youtube channel is down below in the signature. But these are my perspective. There are allot of great videos others are publishing showing all the good and bad from different viewpoint. As a developer and hobby android developer, this is a great device. This is a great forum and community that will really unlock allot of potential in the Nexus 7, the most interesting sub-forum in my opinion is the Nexus 7 Developer.
For rooting Nexus 7, this is a very comprehensive video that was put together: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrZaU5i2x4w&hd=1
Best Regards
Dr. Sheldon Cooper said:
I'm new in this forum and know nothing about rooting, but I would love to root my nexus 7 if someone give me link to proper instructions.
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You need to do some reading in the forums. All of the questions you have posed have been covered many times in other threads.
There are whole threads on Rooting, OTG, Shipping, Problems etc...
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mazinya said:
Is there any chance that by now there is an already free defects batch rolling out?
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There is no such thing. There will always be a number of defective devices for various reasons when things are mass produced. The number of issues you are seeing in the forum is skewed as most people who have no issues, rarely use forums or post about their experiences.
I've now touched and used 5 brand new 16gb Nexus 7's out of the box and they were all fine. The first was in the first initial pre-launch batches with the latest being 3 days ago. I know that others have had issues but that is the experience that I've been seeing.
I got my 2nd one today and it has screen lift and burn in.
I'm getting a refund.
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I'm from india as well and wanted to buy one for myself...but decided against it. N7 is cheap hardware & build quality is poor...I might buy Microsoft Surface instead...might want to check it out...
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Just bought it like 20 min ago and i love it
I just got mine today and I love it. I have zero issues. I live in Canada though
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Nexus 7 build revision?

Many early build revisions of the nexus 7 seemed to have quality issues. I think it has been resolved. Can anyone recommend what build/date revision and later to purchase?
Just order one from play devices and you'll get the latest one....
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I'm planning to purchase from staples. I have hundreds in staples gift cards to use. Any date/revision or later I should ensure I buy?
Wanted to bump this for information as well. Looking to purchase one for Christmas and purchase one for my grandpa who is having a slowly deteriorating processing condition.
Have the build issues been resolved?
I think they reduced the problems but never got rid of them. It's always hit or miss. I have an original model without problems, a friend has a c70 with squishy power button and another friend has c80 without problems. Don't worry, if there are problems just take it back to staples.
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The one that I got on 29 October from Staples got the screen lift issue after 2 days. It had the serial #C09K (September built). I returned it and then got another one from office depot and so far no issue with the build quality. This one had the serial #CA0K (October built).
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I have the latest CA0K and I notice a slight difference between the left and right side. The right side is flush against the silver trim and the left is like 0.1mm raised, it is hard to see. I can feel the difference by running my finger over the trimming where it meets the display. I might exchange it later when there is newer revision again since I have until January to return
Have a CB0K, which I assume is a newer model...has screen lift. :/
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I bought a C07K in August which has a minor screen lift. I just bought another one CB0K model. Screen is perfect, but back cover where screen lift located is loose when you push it you can hear a creaking noise. So I exchanged it for another one CA0K model. This one is so far so good, solid built.
I think I will wait for like a CC0K model or something. I'm not sure if mine is even classified as screen lift as it's less than a 1mm difference but the display is a little recessed on every other edge so I assume it's not normal for only the left side to be a little higher.
Bought my Nexus 7 32gb model from a local walmart with first part of the SSN is C90K. Don't even see any screen lift on the device least that I can see anyways. I had the device for 3 days now and have not found any issues with it yet.
You can try running your finger nail slowly to each edge, the silver trim has a very slight elevation that should barely stop your finger nail from sliding up and over it kind of like a galaxy nexus. It's a subtle detail on the nexus 7
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Bought my Nexus 7 32gb model from a local walmart with first part of the SSN is C90K. Don't even see any screen lift on the device least that I can see anyways. I had the device for 3 days now and have not found any issues with it yet.
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Because I bought it imported from USA , I checked calling ASUS that it has 1 year International warranty. So mine is also C9OK ( O letter , not 0 zero , ASUS explained that to me through their systems ) and its perfect. It came with 4.1.1 version preinstalled
I'm going to get my 7 today
It freshly arrived at Media Markt, after waiting for months.. (actually.. A few days , but it felt like months )
The sad: they claimed about tons of devices coming back due to damage etc... But okay, let's see...
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I'm going to get my 7 today
It freshly arrived at Media Markt, after waiting for months.. (actually.. A few days , but it felt like months )
The sad: they claimed about tons of devices coming back due to damage etc... But okay, let's see...
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I hope your bouncing baby boy/girl works turns out fine when you open it and turn it on. But don't try and bounce it off the floor you might end up breaking it. :laugh:
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I hope your bouncing baby boy/girl works turns out fine when you open it and turn it on. But don't try and bounce it off the floor you might end up breaking it. :laugh:
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I can proudly say, I don't even dropped my galaxy nexus okay, maybe it was because I paid 600€ for it... But it really lays good in my hands and since the 7s back is "rubber like", I'm looking forward to it and yeah... I'm scared as hell of opening the box.. But okay, life sometimes is risky.. no risk no fun
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I have the latest CA0K and I notice a slight difference between the left and right side. The right side is flush against the silver trim and the left is like 0.1mm raised, it is hard to see. I can feel the difference by running my finger over the trimming where it meets the display. I might exchange it later when there is newer revision again since I have until January to return
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You are not serious i hope. Would you complain for something as minor as that? Shame on you and the paranoia going on in this thread.
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You are not serious i hope. Would you complain for something as minor as that? Shame on you and the paranoia going on in this thread.
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I can't thank 2x my gnex has a screen lift and I don't care.. My fear is getting a screwed speaker because I'm youtubing a lot ^^ or idk. Something really annoying like cracks in the edges and stuff (ones you can see)
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You are not serious i hope. Would you complain for something as minor as that? Shame on you and the paranoia going on in this thread.
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Not 0.1mm but 1mm. How am I complaining? I am just stating what I see. I had my nexus for 2 weeks and I don't want to end up with what could develop into something more serious thus I may exchange it. No, I do not want to fix it any future problems myself and void the warranty. You are complaining about me being detail oriented. There's hardware revisions for a reason. I'm not saying my nexus 7 has a definite flaw that's why I discuss about it for more input.
Soon I paid for my Nexus 7 I told the cashier. I told the cashier I was going to open up the package and look at the device here in the store. I told them about the known issues with some of the batches. Turned the device on I bought right in the store and checked the whole thing out.
After looking it all ever turned out my device it good and solid.

Ordered 2, sending both back

Just received my order of two 16GBs yesterday. The first one (for myself) has a black dot between the screen and the glass, right in the middle. I tried to live with it but its very distracting especially on a light background.
Today I unboxed the other one and it won't even turn on. Plugged it to the charger and the LED light kept flashing red.
I'm very disappointed with the QC of the N4. So much for fighting through orders and shipping
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Just received my order of two 16GBs yesterday. The first one (for myself) has a black dot between the screen and the glass, right in the middle. I tried to live with it but its very distracting especially on a light background.
Today I unboxed the other one and it won't even turn on. Plugged it to the charger and the LED light kept flashing red.
I'm very disappointed with the QC of the N4. So much for fighting through orders and shipping
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Sorry dude. People were so pleased when Google announced the price of this thing. I wish they had just given it a normal price and used the extra money to fix the thermal issues, screen issues, battery, etc. I haven't found any problems with mine yet but given the launch failure and all the issues, this may be my last nexus.
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will they charge him restocking fee as mentioned in google play store under refunds?
send me the flashing red one plz
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if you really happy with the phone, give google a call explain the defect they will send
replacement pretty fast like 3 days, they actually have stock just for defect so u wont wait weeks for it.. and the best part is you dont have to ship yours first they ship it
once u get it u can ship yours.. good luck
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Sorry dude. People were so pleased when Google announced the price of this thing. I wish they had just given it a normal price and used the extra money to fix the thermal issues, screen issues, battery, etc. I haven't found any problems with mine yet but given the launch failure and all the issues, this may be my last nexus.
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If they had a higher price I wouldn't of had to upgrade!
Dang it Google!
I will probably do an RMA since the phone is awesome...when it works.
Where can I find the number to call Google?
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if you really happy with the phone, give google a call explain the defect they will send
replacement pretty fast like 3 days, they actually have stock just for defect so u wont wait weeks for it.. and the best part is you dont have to ship yours first they ship it
once u get it u can ship yours.. good luck
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There's quite a few of us RMA people still waiting for ours to be shipped. Been a week
So did you get a replacement ?
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There's quite a few of us RMA people still waiting for ours to be shipped. Been a week
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Hmm that's weird. Got mine 3 days after calling called Monday received it Thursday
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Sorry dude. People were so pleased when Google announced the price of this thing. I wish they had just given it a normal price and used the extra money to fix the thermal issues, screen issues, battery, etc. I haven't found any problems with mine yet but given the launch failure and all the issues, this may be my last nexus.
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I don't think price comes into factor with defects. I paid the same price as the OP and my phone has no defects and has been running flawlessly. And I am pretty sure if we all paid double, we still would be seeing the posts with defects, lol.
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I don't think price comes into factor with defects. I paid the same price as the OP and my phone has no defects and has been running flawlessly. And I am pretty sure if we all paid double, we still would be seeing the posts with defects, lol.
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Of course the price is connected with quality check, but man, let the truth enlighten you: the number of posts regarding defects would be way smaller; take HTC for example (or iPhone, I AM IN NO WAY AN APPLE FANBOY, I'VE NEVER HAD ANY APPLE THING )
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Of course the price is connected with quality check, but man, let the truth enlighten you: the number of posts regarding defects would be way smaller; take HTC for example (or iPhone, I AM IN NO WAY AN APPLE FANBOY, I'VE NEVER HAD ANY APPLE THING )
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Yeah I agree if they had charged us an extra $150 each I think they could have done at least something to improve the quality and reduce defects. Of course, knowing Google they probably would have just given us the middle finger, kept the extra cash, and sent out defective products anyways.
Sad. But that's now my impression of Google.
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Yeah I agree if they had charged us an extra $150 each I think they could have done at least something to improve the quality and reduce defects. Of course, knowing Google they probably would have just given us the middle finger, kept the extra cash, and sent out defective products anyways.
Sad. But that's now my impression of Google.
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Not sure why you think that, but OK.
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I don't think price comes into factor with defects. I paid the same price as the OP and my phone has no defects and has been running flawlessly. And I am pretty sure if we all paid double, we still would be seeing the posts with defects, lol.
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Of course quality control affects price. QC can be very labor intensive($$$), from just auditing the boards and components at various levels of production, to scrap (throwing away defective product $$$) or rework (labor intensive $$$) of product with defects. I speak from experience here. No doubt QC suffered in order to offer the Nexus 4 at this price. Of course, it probably didn't suffer as much as it might have from other manufactures, as Google does not have to make money on the device itself as they can rake in the money from the Play store.
I mean, I love that I am able to purchase such a high end device for $299/349, but I think we really have to worry about what this will do to the rest of the Android ecosystem. Amazon has already been putting the hurt on everybody (other than Apple) in the tablet market with their Fire tablets (again, they can make money from the Amazon app store, and other content), and now Google is putting the Squeeze on everybody else with the Nexus 4, the Nexus 7, and the Nexus 10.
Competition is good for everybody, but if only Apple, Amazon and Google can make money due to owning the content stores, then that's a bad omen for the industry IMHO. But I digress.
You know I see everyone blaming Google when Google didn't make the hardware. They only did the software. I saw this coming when then announced LG was the hardware OEM. They have never been known for outstanding hardware.
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zelendel said:
You know I see everyone blaming Google when Google didn't make the hardware. They only did the software. I saw this coming when then announced LG was the hardware OEM. They have never been known for outstanding hardware.
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Google was the supervisor of the whole project. Google selected LG. If you think the phone is perfect, Google deserves most of the credit. If you think it sucks, Google deserves much of the blame.
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Today I unboxed the other one and it won't even turn on. Plugged it to the charger and the LED light kept flashing red.
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Have you tried charging it on a pc?
Plug it into USB port of computer and leave for half hour.
This happens on a few android devices when fully discharged and pc charging is the only way to do it sometimes.
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I've got an rma out for mine for a similar issue, there's a black squiggly line going across my camera lens...seems like it's probably stuck between my camera lens and the glass. Not a huge deal, but definitely an annoyance to have to send it back, especially after unlocking and rooting it.
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I'm inclined to believe that offering these Nexus devices at such a low price has resulted in quality control going out the window, as well as warranty. The Nexus 4 seems to have a lot of issues and the Nexus 7 has had its fair share as well.
I had a Nexus 7 and the first one I got had a washed out screen and the well known screen lift on the left side so I exchanged it and my second one only had screen lift as well but to a much lesser degree so I kept it. A couple months go by and I go to pick it up off my table, placing my thumb on that left side and the screen cracked from one side to the other, leaving the top portion unresponsive to touch. I called up both ASUS and Google and neither would do anything about it.
That experience and what I'm seeing here about the Nexus 4 has resulted in me losing faith in Nexus devices, which sucks because I loved the Galaxy Nexus and was really looking forward to this year's Nexus phone.
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I'm inclined to believe that offering these Nexus devices at such a low price has resulted in quality control going out the window, as well as warranty. The Nexus 4 seems to have a lot of issues and the Nexus 7 has had its fair share as well.
I had a Nexus 7 and the first one I got had a washed out screen and the well known screen lift on the left side so I exchanged it and my second one only had screen lift as well but to a much lesser degree so I kept it. A couple months go by and I go to pick it up off my table, placing my thumb on that left side and the screen cracked from one side to the other, leaving the top portion unresponsive to touch. I called up both ASUS and Google and neither would do anything about it.
That experience and what I'm seeing here about the Nexus 4 has resulted in me losing faith in Nexus devices, which sucks because I loved the Galaxy Nexus and was really looking forward to this year's Nexus phone.
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Agree completely. My nexus 7 had screen lift issues but I didn't care enough to RMA. Maybe I should have, though, because it completely died while charging last week, and now I have no choice but to RMA.
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