.. so my phone shows me update (to 4.4) and I _REALLY_ want to download it, but I do _NOT_ want to lose root)
please advise.
4.4 = no root for the foreseeable future... Sorry
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Moto X rocking 4.4
i'm on 4.2.2 (rooted) how would I go to 4.4 w/out screwing up my phone?
a1exus said:
i'm on 4.2.2 (rooted) how would I go to 4.4 w/out screwing up my phone?
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revert to stock (either via RSD or via fastbooting system and recovery). There are numerous places explaining how to do either of those, search around if you don't know how
Where would be an trusted source for me to download images for system and recovery?
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http://sbf.droid-developers.org/ghost_rcica/list.php
Neither SuperSU nor ClockworkMod Superuser seem to work right now (VZW dev unlocked bootloader). Best to wait for the developers to release an update.
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I was under the impression that once I accepted the KitKat update, I would no longer be able to return to 4.2.2 and root/all that.
Is this true? Can I still use RSDLite to go back?
I was wondering the same thing on the AT&T variant
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You can downgrade to 4.2.2 using RSDlite after the 4.4 upgrade. I have the VZW version, not the AT&T version, but I assume it's the same.
ZaneKaminski said:
I was under the impression that once I accepted the KitKat update, I would no longer be able to return to 4.2.2 and root/all that.
Is this true? Can I still use RSDLite to go back?
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As of now you can use RSD Lite to go back to 4.2.2. In fact if you want root in 4.4 you need to go back to 4.2.2 to start the process.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515
mpw3000 said:
As of now you can use RSD Lite to go back to 4.2.2. In fact if you want root in 4.4 you need to go back to 4.2.2 to start the process.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515
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If your boot loader is unlocked just flash the recovery in fastboot and after doing that it will ask you if you want root, just hit yes and bam you got custom recovery plus root. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2534850
[RECOVERY UNLOCKED] TWRP 2.6.3.1 for Android 4.4 [2013-11-19]
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I know from previous phones if I rooted and installed a custom recovery that I wouldn't be able to take an OTA update.
Would still I be able to receive a new OTA update (say 4.4.2) if my Moto X (4.4) is Rooted without write protection?
JJHunterx said:
I know from previous phones if I rooted and installed a custom recovery that I wouldn't be able to take an OTA update.
Would still I be able to receive a new OTA update (say 4.4.2) if my Moto X (4.4) is Rooted without write protection?
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I'm pretty sure that you won't be able to install the OTA with a custom recovery.
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With the new root method (wp off) you keep the stock recovery. The only real way to know is too try. I guess its feasible..... But I've seen rooted devices boot loop in OTA's too....time will tell!
Sent from non rooted motoX :'(
matt99017d said:
With the new root method (wp off) you keep the stock recovery. The only real way to know is too try. I guess its feasible..... But I've seen rooted devices boot loop in OTA's too....time will tell!
Sent from non rooted motoX :'(
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it is not something i would do when the next OTA comes out i would revert to stock and take the OTA or i would wait for a root and go from there. i do know for a fact with a custom recovery if you take a OTA your device will bootloop. with WP off i am not sure what would happen but again i would not recommend trying because it could case some major issues.
I read that 4.4.3 will be coming any day for Sprint Moto X (already out for T-Mobile.)
I've rooted my phone, deleted some bloatware, installed Xposed, etc.
Will I need to re-flash the stock ROM before updating to 4.4.3?
Or will there be a pre-rooted 4.4.3 on this forum which I can flash right over my phone as it is (like there were for my older devices)?
Sorry, new to Moto X.
You'll need the bloat back, that's why you should only disable and not delete it. OTAs do file checks on the system partition and if any are missing or modified the OTA will fail. You'll also need to disable Xposed as well.
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d0g said:
I read that 4.4.3 will be coming any day for Sprint Moto X (already out for T-Mobile.)
I've rooted my phone, deleted some bloatware, installed Xposed, etc.
Will I need to re-flash the stock ROM before updating to 4.4.3?
Or will there be a pre-rooted 4.4.3 on this forum which I can flash right over my phone as it is (like there were for my older devices)?
Sorry, new to Moto X.
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I was just going to ask the exactly same question. I am also on Sprint, and had gone through the official bootloader unlock but not changed the stock rom. I imagine I will still get the OTA update, and taking it will not make me lose root?
I have the OTA update reminder frozen with Titanium Backup right now and am currently running 4.4 out of paranoia. Reading some of the other posts, it seems that I might be OK and OTA updates may only affect those on ATT/Verizon that had to go through other means to get get root?
Always best to freeze...not delete. Takes very little space up and no problem with ota's.
You can always download the official 4.4.2 from Moto and flash system.img and recovery.img. Those will get you back to stock. Then you can take the OTA, flash TWRP, root and reinstall Xposed (all your modules and Xposed/gravity box settings will still be there).
That is what I did going from 4.4 to 4.4.2. Worked like a charm.
You have to flash system.img with mfastboot though not just fastboot. Just Google instructions. They are on xda as well.
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What I'm curious about....is if you will be able to downgrade from 4.4.3 to 4.4.2? If its the same bootloader, which I'm sure it is....should be fine. If it isn't....I see many brick threads in the coming days. ?
d0g said:
I read that 4.4.3 will be coming any day for Sprint Moto X (already out for T-Mobile.)
I've rooted my phone, deleted some bloatware, installed Xposed, etc.
Will I need to re-flash the stock ROM before updating to 4.4.3?
Or will there be a pre-rooted 4.4.3 on this forum which I can flash right over my phone as it is (like there were for my older devices)?
Sorry, new to Moto X.
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ibwhite said:
I was just going to ask the exactly same question. I am also on Sprint, and had gone through the official bootloader unlock but not changed the stock rom. I imagine I will still get the OTA update, and taking it will not make me lose root?
I have the OTA update reminder frozen with Titanium Backup right now and am currently running 4.4 out of paranoia. Reading some of the other posts, it seems that I might be OK and OTA updates may only affect those on ATT/Verizon that had to go through other means to get get root?
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This was asked about when the 4.2.2 to 4.4 OTA came out, and again when the 4.4 to 4.4.2 OTA came out..
so see -> Taking an OTA
I have the 2013 model of the MotoX and its XT1058 version. I am currently on KitKat 4.4.2 and it's rooted. I was wondering if I will lose root if I take the OTA update to 4.4.4 and if that is so, is there a way to keep the root on 4.4.4. Thanks!
I second this. Same situation as you (Verizon model) and would like to go 4.4.4 and keep my root.
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I have the 2013 model of the MotoX and its XT1058 version. I am currently on KitKat 4.4.2 and it's rooted. I was wondering if I will lose root if I take the OTA update to 4.4.4 and if that is so, is there a way to keep the root on 4.4.4. Thanks!
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If your bootloader is unlocked, yes, you can keep root, though you will need to the reflash supersu.zip (or have twrp automagically do it). Otherwise, no. There is no root available for unlocked 4.4.4. If you don't have an unlocked bootloader, check out the Sunshine thread in the general section.
Is your X an ATT XT1058? If not, you should be able to unlock for free through Moto (there are a number of threads around on doing so). For you @EpicBlob, since you are using a Verizon XT1060, if it isn't the Dev Edition, Sunshine is your only option now and is $25 to use.
Kind of, if root is hidden via superSU you can take the ota & then use sunshine. But why risk it.
As I recall, you can keep root but you will loose write access to system. This means if you use root to modify anything, it wont stick after a reboot. I would advise against it unless you have an unlocked bootloader.
If you have a custom recovery, you need to flash your stock recovery first also. ?
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If you have a custom recovery, you need to flash your stock recovery first also. ?
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Where can I find the stock recovery for XT1052 running 4.4.4... tried alot couldnt find it......can u point me...???
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As I recall, you can keep root but you will loose write access to system. This means if you use root to modify anything, it wont stick after a reboot. I would advise against it unless you have an unlocked bootloader.
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I have an AT&T XT1058 too, my but i had my BL unlocked through sunshine.
I am still on 4.4, but now that i have my BL unlocked, i want to update to 4.4.4. Why do you say that i can keep the root but i will loose write access to system?
Can't i restore it?
Minato04 said:
I have an AT&T XT1058 too, my but i had my BL unlocked through sunshine.
I am still on 4.4, but now that i have my BL unlocked, i want to update to 4.4.4. Why do you say that i can keep the root but i will loose write access to system?
Can't i restore it?
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You didn't mention you had an unlocked bootloader.
If it were me, I would RSD back to stock 4.4, take the OTA's to 4.4.4, flash recovery, flash root. (Only if you have an unlocked bootloader of course. )
I would just find the 4.4.4 AT&T sbf/fxz and flash it manually instead of taking OTAs.
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I have the 2013 model of the MotoX and its XT1058 version. I am currently on KitKat 4.4.2 and it's rooted. I was wondering if I will lose root if I take the OTA update to 4.4.4 and if that is so, is there a way to keep the root on 4.4.4. Thanks!
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I second this. Same situation as you (Verizon model) and would like to go 4.4.4 and keep my root.
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Sorry I'm joining late... But...
If your bootloader is LOCKED (Standard on the ATT XT1058, and Verizon XT1060), then do not upgrade to 4.4.4. You will lose Root. The vulnerabilities exploited by Pie and Towel have been patched in 4.4.4, and you will not be able to re-root.
However, If while on 4.4.2 or lower you have unlocked your bootloader by either using Sunshine, or purchasing an Unlock Code from the China Middle man when available (the only two options to unlock the bootloader on the ATT XT1058 and Verizon XT1060 non-developer edition), you will likely lose root taking the update, but can re-root after 4.4.4 is on your phone.
To take OTA, you need stock recovery on your phone, and to be as close to stock as possible (so the OTA's preflash validation check doesn't fail). After the OTA is installed, flash TWRP, reboot-bootloader and enter TWRP.
The other option is to download the 4.4.4 SBF from one of the sites listed in -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-tip-web-sites-official-leaked-roms-t2923347 and flash your phone with it via RSDLite or mFastboot. After flashing, use mFastboot to flash TWRP recovery, reboot-bootloader, then enter TWRP.
Hi All,
I'm still rocking my 2013 Moto X XT1060 as my daily device. It's currently on 4.4, rooted, unlocked bootloader, stock rom with exposed framework. i disabled the OTA updates on it because at the time, I didn't have an unlocked bootloader and didn't want to loose root (I'm not on the dev-edition). Anyway, my bluetooth has started to crash and want to/should update 4.4.4 or 5.1. What do you recommend?
In addition to that, what method should I use to get there:
1. SFB back to 4.2.2 (I'm currently on 4.4 so I don't think that shouldn't be a problem but please tell me otherwise)
1a. Take all the OTAs to 4.4.4 or 5.1?
2. SFB to 4.4.4 (directly from 4.4, not sure if that's a problem)
3. SFB to 5.1 (directly from 4.4, again, not sure if that's a problem)
Thank you!
If it were me, I would take the 4.4.4 update and stop there. I have mine rooted with stock 4.4.4, and everything just works. Kit kat is really the sweet spot for this phone.
Thanks! What method should I take to get there? Can I SBF directly to it from 4.4 or is it possible to downgrade back to 4.2.2 from 4.4 and take the updates? I've been out of the scene since I got the phone back in 2013 so I can't remember if downgrading to 4.2.2 is OK.
You should not downgrade to 4.2.2, besides it's not necessary. If you want to get to 4.4.4, then I would use the method compiled in this post by liveroy. It's not complicated, simply follow the directions exactly. I then reflashed TWRP recovery, and installed SuperSU, in order to use AdAway and ES File Explorer's root access. If you want to remain stock, then omit TWRP and SuperSU.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/guide-faq-how-to-downgrade-5-1-to-4-4-4-t3182118
Note: as suggested by KidJoe, I used TWRP 2.8.6.0 and the most recent SuperSU.
wmdunn said:
If it were me, I would take the 4.4.4 update and stop there. I have mine rooted with stock 4.4.4, and everything just works. Kit kat is really the sweet spot for this phone.
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Agreed. I kept KK while my friends upgraded to 5.1, nothing but problems and extremely poor battery life.