I'm planning to go pick up a moto x (card) today, but I need to know if I will be able to use it to create a personal wifi hotspot.
Right now, I have a Galaxy S (AT&T Captivate) and as soon as I installed Cyanogen, I was able to turn on the wifi hotspot and connect with my laptop. No extra fees from AT&T, it just worked.
Since there is no root or unlocked bootloader for the Moto X, will I still be able to enable this feature or will it still be removed from the OS like it was on my stock Galaxy S?
I don't want to have to pay $10 a month or something to use the data I've already paid for--I don't tether often, but it is often fairly important when I do.
ottothecow said:
I'm planning to go pick up a moto x (card) today, but I need to know if I will be able to use it to create a personal wifi hotspot.
Right now, I have a Galaxy S (AT&T Captivate) and as soon as I installed Cyanogen, I was able to turn on the wifi hotspot and connect with my laptop. No extra fees from AT&T, it just worked.
Since there is no root or unlocked bootloader for the Moto X, will I still be able to enable this feature or will it still be removed from the OS like it was on my stock Galaxy S?
I don't want to have to pay $10 a month or something to use the data I've already paid for--I don't tether often, but it is often fairly important when I do.
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It won't be an option until we get root. After that we can alter the build.prop and work around it.
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matt99017d said:
It won't be an option until we get root. After that we can alter the build.prop and work around it.
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Is it still an option if I pay for it? I guess I could pay for it until the device is rooted and then cancel (assuming that doesn't red-flag you for improper data use).
Hopefully it gets rooted soon.
I'm using Motorola Moto X with Verizon Wireless (XT1060) (on unlimited data plan) and Android KitKat 4.4.
I'm having some _MAJOR_ issues with battery( and bluetooth as well. The only reason I didn't update my phone yet is I _REALLY_ need to have WiFi tethering and as far as I understand I cannot update my phone to even 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 as I'll lose root and therefor wifi tethering.
I will definitely try to wait for Dan Rosenberg and/or Justin Case, however as of now as far as I know it's not certain if/when an usable exploit/tool would be released to public, so it's a long shot(
my question is with recent Obama signing bill about "unlocking" cell phones, could that be another way or is it something completely different?
a1exus said:
I'm using Motorola Moto X with Verizon Wireless (XT1060) (on unlimited data plan) and Android KitKat 4.4.
I'm having some _MAJOR_ issues with battery( and bluetooth as well. The only reason I didn't update my phone yet is I _REALLY_ need to have WiFi tethering and as far as I understand I cannot update my phone to even 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 as I'll lose root and therefor wifi tethering.
I will definitely try to wait for Dan Rosenberg and/or Justin Case, however as of now as far as I know it's not certain if/when an usable exploit/tool would be released to public, so it's a long shot(
my question is with recent Obama signing bill about "unlocking" cell phones, could that be another way or is it something completely different?
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This has nothing to do with bootloader unlocking. This is in regards to SIM unlocking, which allows you to take your device to another carrier.
sivarticus85 said:
This has nothing to do with bootloader unlocking. This is in regards to SIM unlocking, which allows you to take your device to another carrier.
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ah, ok.. sorry for stupid question.. i took my phone abroad and it was working, i didn't had to unlock sim or anything like that...
You can take the 4.4.2 OTA and still root with PieTowelRoot, I have a moto x on 4.4.2 right now rooted with it and using the entitlement hack by kryptonite, the set up works nice.
Get a developer edition
For once att isn't the worst carrier I can use Hotspot without any issues on stock 4.4.2. I haven't tried since updating to 4.4.4.
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You can take the 4.4.2 OTA and still root with PieTowelRoot, I have a moto x on 4.4.2 right now rooted with it and using the entitlement hack by kryptonite, the set up works nice.
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the downside for that is i'll lose write protection to /system.
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Get a developer edition
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as much as i like to do that, i don't think there is a point to do that right now, especially as in less than a month new version coming out...
superp32 said:
For once att isn't the worst carrier I can use Hotspot without any issues on stock 4.4.2. I haven't tried since updating to 4.4.4.
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i can use it too, just gotta pay for it and just person next to me i don't wanna) especially 'cause i have unlimited data plan))
i dont have any issues with my batt and im on 4.4 rooted with slap.. I keep the brightness down to a minimum location battery saving mode and I get 3 or 4 hours surfing constantly lot longer than that if I'm just using it periodically. I also have another Moto X its on 4.4.2 rootrd with topie using entitlement hack and I don't see any difference at all in the battery.. or anything else. I'm on the grandfathered unlimited data plan also so I need the hot spot it powers my home internet Netflix everything. you won't lose write if you go to 4.4.2 when rooted with towel pie you can write but your changes are lost if you reboot
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i dont have any issues with my batt and im on 4.4 rooted with slap.. I keep the brightness down to a minimum location battery saving mode and I get 3 or 4 hours surfing constantly lot longer than that if I'm just using it periodically. I also have another Moto X its on 4.4.2 rootrd with topie using entitlement hack and I don't see any difference at all in the battery.. or anything else. I'm on the grandfathered unlimited data plan also so I need the hot spot it powers my home internet Netflix everything. you won't lose write if you go to 4.4.2 when rooted with towel pie you can write but your changes are lost if you reboot
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I don't even get 2 hours of screen time(( I guess its also depends on apps you have installed and usage, before i took OTA update from 4.2.2 I was getting _MUCH_ greater screen time for sure, so I was thinking since there are bugs in 4.4, updating to anything higher would (re)solve at least some of them, but going that route has its own pros and cons.
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I don't even get 2 hours of screen time(( I guess its also depends on apps you have installed and usage, before i took OTA update from 4.2.2 I was getting _MUCH_ greater screen time for sure, so I was thinking since there are bugs in 4.4, updating to anything higher would (re)solve at least some of them, but going that route has its own pros and cons.
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Since you've still got write protection off you can use safestrap to flash newer versions and retain full root, that's what I'm doing!
And I'm getting much more battery life with 4.4.3 (over 4.4.2 at least)
frenchie007 said:
Since you've still got write protection off you can use safestrap to flash newer versions and retain full root, that's what I'm doing!
And I'm getting much more battery life with 4.4.3 (over 4.4.2 at least)
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Good point!
Yeah, There is actually a 4.4.4 safestrap-compatible ROM "Krypton" in the Development sub-forum.
EDIT @KidJoe : I sent you a PM regarding the post below this one...
a1exus said:
...i took my phone abroad and it was working, i didn't had to unlock sim or anything like that...
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Verizon LTE phones are sim UNlocked out of the box, and considered "global" due to quadband GSM support, and some HSPA support.
superp32 said:
For once att isn't the worst carrier I can use Hotspot without any issues on stock 4.4.2. I haven't tried since updating to 4.4.4.
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Verizon users on a TIERED data plan can tether without hacks or anything. I just eats from their tiered data bucket.
Those still on the old Unlimited data plans have to pay for tethering or hack their phone. Hence rooting being required.
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EDIT @KidJoe : I sent you a PM regarding the post below this one...
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Fixed. Thanks!!
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Verizon LTE phones are sim UNlocked out of the box, and considered "global" due to quadband GSM support, and some HSPA support.
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Since I have a Moto X and Droid Ultra I could pop in a Cricket or Net10 sim and be good to go? Every time I tried to search about only thing I can find is sites to pay for a SIM unlock code.
rebretz000 said:
Since I have a Moto X and Droid Ultra I could pop in a Cricket or Net10 sim and be good to go? Every time I tried to search about only thing I can find is sites to pay for a SIM unlock code.
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Depends on whose towers Cricket and Net10 use. If they use GSM (like use T-Mobile's towers), then yes.
I can stick my T-Mobile USA sim (my work line used for GS3 and iPhone), into my personal Verizon X since I got it. Some of the firmwares work better than others, some I needed to manually enter APN settings, some I get "SIM is from unknown provider" etc.
With 4.4.4. its been the best and most compatible to date. I haven't had to enter T-Mobile's APN settings on my VZW X, and voice, sms, mms and data work, including HSPA+ and LTE. There is a slight lag of switching from H/H+ to LTE (like after I hang up a phone call), but that is about it.
Keep in mind, the VZW X supports LTE bands 4 and 13. T-Mobile uses 4 and I'm not sure if they use any other bands for LTE.
For HSPA/HSPA+ on T-Mobile, you need to be in areas where T-Mobile has re-farmed their 1900mhz from EDGE to HSPA/HSPA+
Now, if you use ATT... EDGE/GPRS/HSPA/HSPA+ will be fine, but LTE will likely not work as ATT uses different bands.
frenchie007 said:
Since you've still got write protection off you can use safestrap to flash newer versions and retain full root, that's what I'm doing!
And I'm getting much more battery life with 4.4.3 (over 4.4.2 at least)
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as much as I'd like to use that, I really would like to stay on stock rom, and that dev made some customization to rom that i'm not too crazy about it, i really wish there was a rom without any of that customization.. maybe its just me and everyone else wants to have all that customization in
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Depends on whose towers Cricket and Net10 use. If they use GSM (like use T-Mobile's towers), then yes.
I can stick my T-Mobile USA sim (my work line used for GS3 and iPhone), into my personal Verizon X since I got it. Some of the firmwares work better than others, some I needed to manually enter APN settings, some I get "SIM is from unknown provider" etc.
With 4.4.4. its been the best and most compatible to date. I haven't had to enter T-Mobile's APN settings on my VZW X, and voice, sms, mms and data work, including HSPA+ and LTE. There is a slight lag of switching from H/H+ to LTE (like after I hang up a phone call), but that is about it.
Keep in mind, the VZW X supports LTE bands 4 and 13. T-Mobile uses 4 and I'm not sure if they use any other bands for LTE.
For HSPA/HSPA+ on T-Mobile, you need to be in areas where T-Mobile has re-farmed their 1900mhz from EDGE to HSPA/HSPA+
Now, if you use ATT... EDGE/GPRS/HSPA/HSPA+ will be fine, but LTE will likely not work as ATT uses different bands.
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I'll be using ATT. If T-Mobile was where I live I'd be all over it. I made up my mind to leave Verizon and I just want to get going. I'm going to try and do the activate, port, and generate new Verizon number thing. I don't want to buy new GSM phones yet. Going to hold out until the new Moto X is released or Moto Maxx. Or Motorola Nexus to buy new phones. My wife won't give up her Droid Ultra at all. The Active Display has her hooked. So I have to wait to see what is coming in September.
I have an old Thundebolt and RAZR HD to activate on my verizon lines right now.
If I pull this off I'll have two unlimited data lines up for exchange for some expresidents
Thank you.
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as much as I'd like to use that, I really would like to stay on stock rom, and that dev made some customization to rom that i'm not too crazy about it, i really wish there was a rom without any of that customization.. maybe its just me and everyone else wants to have all that customization in
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I'll admit these are buried deep, and I don't even think there's one for 4.4.3.
These should be fully stock with the exception that they come rooted.
here's vzw stock 4.4.2: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/116025-romsafestrap-unlockedxt1060-stock-rooted-vzw-164552-kitkat-442/
here's vzw stock 4.4.4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-stock-rooted-vzw-212-55-26-t2829123
I know nothing it definite when it comes to the MotoX+1 as we know little to nothing about it, but it's likely safe to assume it will be as secure if not more than the MotoX.
I NEED to have Wifi Tether on my phone, it is an absolute must. I currently have an unlimited data plan with Verizon and I use tethering on my Galaxy S3 nearly all the time. Is wifi tethering possible on the Verizon Moto X? Is root required?
GatorsUF said:
I know nothing it definite when it comes to the MotoX+1 as we know little to nothing about it, but it's likely safe to assume it will be as secure if not more than the MotoX.
I NEED to have Wifi Tether on my phone, it is an absolute must. I currently have an unlimited data plan with Verizon and I use tethering on my Galaxy S3 nearly all the time. Is wifi tethering possible on the Verizon Moto X? Is root required?
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Buy the developer edition. It is the only guaranteed way that you will be able to root, and [probably] use WiFi tether...
Yes I'm considering that option, wonder what Dev edition x+1 will cost
Is there a way to tether an unrooted vzw moto x? I searched and just ended up getting more confused and I've heard yes and no. So I figured I'd just ask. Sorry if it's been asked time and time again.
Thanks!
If you are on 4.4.2, yes. You can use towelpieroot and a script to enable native tethering. Both can be found in the forum. If you are on 4.4.4 and have unlimited data, not without shelling out more money to Big Red. If you have limited data, you should be able to tether with no problems
marzak said:
If you are on 4.4.2, yes. You can use towelpieroot and a script to enable native tethering. Both can be found in the forum. If you are on 4.4.4 and have unlimited data, not without shelling out more money to Big Red. If you have limited data, you should be able to tether with no problems
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I asked big red, they said I cant even add tethering without losing unlimited data. I'm unrooted on 4.4.4
I've heard that there are methods with USB or bluetooth unrooted on 4.4.4 though, but I'm unsure. Was hoping there would be, apparently not though.
blueice5249 said:
I asked big red, they said I cant even add tethering without losing unlimited data. I'm unrooted on 4.4.4
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Yes you can. Just log onto verizon online and add it by clicking on manage products and apps. The Verizon reps are clueless half of the time.
You can even turn it on and off as much as you like during the month. It is $1/day for each day it is on, and if it is on for any part of the day you get charged the full $1.
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I've heard that there are methods with USB or bluetooth unrooted on 4.4.4 though, but I'm unsure. Was hoping there would be, apparently not though.
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PDAnet works with USB tether and bluetooth tether, just not WiFi tether.
You can get a new Verizon Moto X Dev Ed for cheap on ebay if you want to root and WiFi tether for free.
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Yes you can. Just log onto verizon online and add it by clicking on manage products and apps. The Verizon reps are clueless half of the time.
You can even turn it on and off as much as you like during the month. It is $1/day for each day it is on, and if it is on for any part of the day you get charged the full $1.
PDAnet works with USB tether and bluetooth tether, just not WiFi tether.
You can get a new Verizon Moto X Dev Ed for cheap on ebay if you want to root and WiFi tether for free.
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Thanks, I got PDAnet working! I'm gonna stick with this phone for now. I run 2 businesses off this phone now, so rooting it and possibly being without it for awhile isn't worth the risk for me.
Stupid real life always getting in the way.