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I really like my d3 but I feel like its old already with rumors of the d4 so quick and the samsung nexus coming out. It seems that the market is flooded with android phones. Even my friends that have the iphone ask " why are there so many android phones that come so quickly" and I agree with them. I love android and will always have one. When I read things that say android has the market share I can't but wonder if its do the the huge number of android phones. I wish google would grow a pair and stop this. I would love to see just a few android phones " all stock " come out and show people that don't reallly know what a stock android phone is. I think its moto and htc, and samsung messing it all up with there ui's. And because of this is why the d3 will get lost. And its a great phone. Their are a lot of great phones but you buy one and a month later 3 more that are faster bigger come out. The only good thing about all the phones is that they all try to out do the other. So the technology gets better faster. But I would love to see less and more stock phones. Im tiered of explaining moto blur to people. My friends that have the iphone are right when they say what's wrong with stock android that the manfactures have to hide it. They have a good point. But anyway I just thought this needed to be said and now I wait 8 months till my upgrade and then I will get my samsung nexus and im back on stock forever. Also I know that we have roms and your phone can be stock with these but its still not the same.
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Google has little control over whether an OEM skins Android or not - Android is open source, and whuile I believe that they have specific requirements to get the Google market and apps, the OEMs are free to alter the framework. Of course, it is not the OEMs who simply make the phones - they are trying to sell to carriers, who also have specific demands for specific features (i.e., locked down bootloaders, so users will not be able to install apps that do things like offer hotspot service for free, plus carriers get money from software companies to pre-load specific software on the phones.) It is surely not Google who is controlling when specific makers are offering specific models (with the exception of the Nexus models.)
Google does contract with OEMs roughly once per year to make the Nexus devices, which are pure Android phones (Nexus One January 2010; Nexus S in December 2010; Nexus Prime November 2011.)
Are there too many phones? I would rather have too many great phones coming out frequently than too few phones coming out less frequently. Seriously, even with a Droid 4 coming out 6 months after a Droid 3 (if the release is indeed that tight), the Droid 3 hasn't suddenly become a terrible phone. It's a dual-core OMAP 1 GHz phone with 512 MB of RAM and a very high dpi high resolution display with reasonable battery life. This phone will remain usable for all of a typical 20 month Verizon contract commitment, just as the Droid Incredible remains entirely usable now 18 months or so after its first release.
That's my opinion, anyway. I think it's healthier to be happy that there are so many great phones pushing the envelope so frequently than the alternative - having to wait and try to guess the perfect time to upgrade to a new device. Choice can be hard, but I'd rather be able to choose between many, many models of cars than have Chevy, Ford, Toyota, etc. come out with a single model each every year.
Apple's way is very smart for them, but they do not have to compete with other OEMs making iOS phones. Android OEMs do need to be mindful of each other, and I think both ways are fine. If you are worried that too many phones are being released too fast, then by all means, switch to an iPhone and you'll be able to relax more, or simply buy whichever Nexus device is available at the time you are able or want to upgrade, as they are also now on an approximate yearly cycle. If you have to switch to another carrier to do so, that will surely send a message to the carrier that you are using that if they wanted to keep your business, they should have offered a Nexus device of their own.
Very good points. Just makes me a little mad that I get a phone and and one that I would rather have comes out a few months later. But then again I did not know that at the time. I just nee to maybe wait before jumping in. I do think that the samsung nexus will be the best selling phone of all time. I think that will send a measage to the carriers that stock it always better. I would like to think that stock it better now that 4.0 is out.
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This is the point that technology is at man. Every company is going to make devices that cater to each type of person. These smartphones really haven't been out long if you think about it in relative terms. I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years we start seeing the smartphones get narrowed down into a few types of droids and of course 1 or 2 ugly step cousins made by that Apple company.
So to answer your question, yea, there may be a big selection of phones out there and by the time you get used to using one it is already outdated, but that's part of the fun of being at the edge of how far technology has gotten us.
I don't think the problem lies with too many phones but personally I think the carriers and OEMs are taking way too much advantage over the position that they are in.
When I bought my OG Droid, I went with a one year contract because I knew that soon enough a new phone would be out to replace it. This turned out to be incorrect as that was when Android phones were still in their adolescence.
In July, when I finally decided it was time to upgrade to the Droid 3, Verizon no longer offered a one-year contract and there was no sign of a QWERTY slider coming out for awhile. So I felt confident in choosing the Droid 3...
Here I sit, 4 months into a 2-year contract, the Droid 4 is on the horizon and my only option when it comes out is to buy it at full non-subsidized price. Which brings me to my next point...
Why are the non-contract prices SO high for these devices?! The cost of production and materials cannot be THAT high to warrant such a price. Add in the fact that the Operating System (Minus Blur/Sense/Etc) is "free" (to an extent).
To me it just seems like if we want to go with a prepaid, non-contract carrier we have to pay a really high price for a good phone. But when we go to a contract carrier, we are stuck for two years (unless you pay $300+ to cancel the contract) and when a new device comes out we must simply ignore it or cough up $600-700.
Am I wrong or is this the truth? Pardon my rant.
I think Android phones are being released insanely fast. There was a time when I'd read about all of them but now it seems like 3-4 new phones are announced every damn day. And they're ALL the same. Dual-Core, 4G, Gingerbread.
Ya they are all the same for the most part. That's what I don't like. Just wish the carriers would slow down, and focuse on one or two phones. Just can't wait till my upgrade comes. Just afraid that the different ui's will be not be good for android. People need to know what android looks like. Its not blur or sense and those ui's slow phones down a bit aswell.
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Ya they are all the same for the most part. That's what I don't like. Just wish the carriers would slow down, and focuse on one or two phones. Just can't wait till my upgrade comes. Just afraid that the different ui's will be not be good for android. People need to know what android looks like. Its not blur or sense and those ui's slow phones down a bit aswell.
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Google needs to put it's foot down and say no more skins. Skins should come as flashable roms from Moto or HTC, etc.
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Google needs to put it's foot down and say no more skins. Skins should come as flashable roms from Moto or HTC, etc.
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No it doesn't. It completely goes against what makes Android so good. Developers like being able to brand their phones, something they can't do under Windows Phone and obviously IOS. Flashable roms would just be confusing and potentially unstable for the average consumer.
Ya but people don't know what android looks like because of these skins. People think that blur is android and its not. Goggle should at least tell then to have more phones that are stock. Why hide android? Most people put roms on there phones to get rid of the skins. I know that's what I do.
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Most people put roms on there phones to get rid of the skins.
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This is probably true of people who mod their phone, but definitely not true of Android users as a whole. I would guess that less then 10% of Android users actually mod their phones. While it's a small sample, out of the 9 people I know personally that own Android phones, only 2 of them have modded it, and they only did it because I did it for them because they complained of the phone being too slow (Droid 1's). Although both recently upgraded to iphones.
The bottom line is the majority of Android users don't care about what their phone looks like or what Android truly looks like. The same way I don't care about whats under the hood of my car. A car gets me from point A to point B, what makes that happen is irrelevant to me. All I care is if the car is visually appealing to me. And maybe more recently MPG, because of the cost of gas is so god damn high.
Well the nice thing is, as long as XDA exists then we will always have a more current phone. If my Droid 3 would have not crapped out on me because of the screen I would still be using it at 1 GHz with the latest Gingerbread. Once we figure out how to mod the D3 better and better and if we do ever get the unlocked bootloader then our phones will still be just as current as the Nexus Prime or whatever is newer and better.
The specs of this phone despite not being 4G are good because the CPU and RAM are up there with the currently released high end phones (except the RAZR). We already have some good custom ROMs out there and I'm sure we will get ICS soon enough thanks to Hash.
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Well the nice thing is, as long as XDA exists then we will always have a more current phone. If my Droid 3 would have not crapped out on me because of the screen I would still be using it at 1 GHz with the latest Gingerbread. Once we figure out how to mod the D3 better and better and if we do ever get the unlocked bootloader then our phones will still be just as current as the Nexus Prime or whatever is newer and better.
The specs of this phone despite not being 4G are good because the CPU and RAM are up there with the currently released high end phones (except the RAZR). We already have some good custom ROMs out there and I'm sure we will get ICS soon enough thanks to Hash.
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The processor is good but the RAM is definitely lacking. 512MB is just not enough, the phone with stock stuff installed has a pretty terrible multi-tasking experience. Honestly I think the 512 is the reason why Motorola hasn't flagged it for an ICS update yet, because other than that it's basically the same phone as the Bionic/Razr and probably wouldn't be too hard to port.
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The processor is good but the RAM is definitely lacking. 512MB is just not enough, the phone with stock stuff installed has a pretty terrible multi-tasking experience. Honestly I think the 512 is the reason why Motorola hasn't flagged it for an ICS update yet, because other than that it's basically the same phone as the Bionic/Razr and probably wouldn't be too hard to port.
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No the software is just that bad.
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The processor is good but the RAM is definitely lacking. 512MB is just not enough, the phone with stock stuff installed has a pretty terrible multi-tasking experience. Honestly I think the 512 is the reason why Motorola hasn't flagged it for an ICS update yet, because other than that it's basically the same phone as the Bionic/Razr and probably wouldn't be too hard to port.
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512 MB will be fine for ICS, I am sure, as the Nexus S will be getting ICS with worse specs than the D3 (i.e., single-core CPU).
It's very possible that Moto and/or VZW will not want to take the time to develop ICS for the D3, or push it out, but it won't be because it has "only" 512 MB of RAM.
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512 MB will be fine for ICS, I am sure, as the Nexus S will be getting ICS with worse specs than the D3 (i.e., single-core CPU).
It's very possible that Moto and/or VZW will not want to take the time to develop ICS for the D3, or push it out, but it won't be because it has "only" 512 MB of RAM.
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The Nexus S doesn't have a ton of bloatware on it. Verizon will have to port all the applications that are stock loaded with the Droid 3 2.3.4 build over to ICS. I'm going to go ahead and assume that ICS probably uses more RAM than gingerbread. Couple that with the crap software Verizon loads on the phone and there is definitely a case for ram being an issue. I mean the stock phone blows as is, run maps and music and it slows to a crawl.
I think the over abundance of Android phones can be disheartening at first glance, but when you think about it, remember back a few years to when the original razr was the hot phone. After owning it for two years, you go in to get an upgrade to find that the best phone on the market is still a razr, but now it can play mp3s. If you use your head, you realize that all of these people who are worried about having the latest and greatest phone and go out to buy it as it is released still have a perfectly good "last month" phone. Hello Ebay. I saved my upgrade and bought a one month old D3 off ebay for $300. Use your upgrades when the RIGHT phone comes out, until then pick up the scraps from ebay at half price. Remember, even a used phone from ebay still carries a mfg warranty.
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I agree with OP that there are too many Android phones and not enough variety. i think the main difference is that while the iPhone was originally locked to one market, Android phones were everywhere. Each carrier had their own version of each phone made by each manufacturer, not to mention their individual contracts for certain phones that ended up getting out to other carriers eventually (i.e. Evo). My issue is there isn't much variety, yeah they have small upgrades here and there and small differences but the main thing is once a 1ghz 4.3" screen came out, every company made one. Once dual core came out, every company made one. Not much innovation imo, just keeping up with the competition. And I still don't understand why there are barely any QWERTY keyboards, another reason why it seems like most of the phones coming out are the same.
For me it all has began to come down to the looks department. I know I want a QWERTY so i had limited options, but even if it was an all touch screen you look for one that you can live with looking at every day and bite the bullet. Chances are everyone else will have one with similar specs just different body design.
Hey, just wanna know what your replacement will be.
Mine will be the sgs3. well dev support for this phone is highly supported and updates are seeding regularly. I am really disappointed for lg's lack of support for this phone i mean we've been waiting for the ics upgrade for months and still none. then jb came out, still no ics. what gives?
So, what will it be?
Very hard decision. I don't like the cover of the sgs3 and the HTC One X and LG Optimus 4X HD have Nvidia chipsets, so I think I won't buy any of these phones.
First, I wait for a new Nexus phone, because I like the instant updates.
First of all let we have ICS, replacing 2x w/o ICS upgrade is too early decision
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Yes. I'll also wait for ICS update and 4.1 custom roms.
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First of all let we have ICS, replacing 2x w/o ICS upgrade is too early decision
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Okay, maybe i'll wait for the ics upgrade maybe it'll be worth the wait with HW acceleration and all.
P.S. I use your kernel and all I can say is BUTTER! It's super snappy and zero lag and good battery life. Keep it up!
when i will eventually get another phone it will be a nexus.
Some Nexus, but not now, maybe next year.
Guys how about lg optimus l7...it's cheap and looks awesome with ics...
The nex(t)us.
Never ever going to purchase a LG product again. Same counts for Nvidia.
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I'll be waiting for Cortex-A15 processors to come out. My contract expires in April 2013, hopefully by then we'll see a couple of phones with those processors.
Nexus.
If they don;pt hurry up with ICS for the 2x I'll get a nexus 7 soon and just tether it to the 2x.
Will wait for ICS upgrade.Till now the xda developers community had done an awesome job with GB.Love to fell the ICS on O2x tweaked by them:cyclops:.If LG decides to abandon O2x after delivering ICS update then no LG for me.Will discourage all possible buyers for LG products.Next device will obviously be Google nexus at least updates will be on time:laugh:.
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Hey, just wanna know what your replacement will be.
Mine will be the sgs3. well dev support for this phone is highly supported and updates are seeding regularly. I am really disappointed for lg's lack of support for this phone i mean we've been waiting for the ics upgrade for months and still none. then jb came out, still no ics. what gives?
So, what will it be?
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This one -> http://www.gsmarena.com/rumor_htc_one_xxl_to_be_like_one_xl_but_with_quadcore_krait-news-4430.php
Is not from LG and don't have a nvidia chipset
Only nexus from Google, never LG.
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well... for shure next phone will be one with fastest support. ofc... avoiding Amoled tech. and only considering IPS .
nexus...well maybe but we will see.
i am still hoping that we will get this ICS update and that it will raise our O2x... so...
Galaxy Nexus, by the end of summer. May happen to hold on to O2X too, and sell it when it gets ICS, since I doubt it'll be before september.
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Purchased this phone with high hopes just after its launch ignoring sgs2. But then LG has not handled its the then flagship mobile FIRST DUAL CORE IN THE MOBILE WORLD effectively. Whereas Samsung has given timely updates to the contemporary and parallel SGS2, LG has made a mess of it. Not only phone, LG's PC suite is the worst I have ever handled. In fact many of us including myself bricked my phone while taking official updates. Its for all these brilliant XDA DEV developers and Paul O'Brien from MODACO we are able to get the money's worth.
Doesn't know what I will buy next but not LG. But I have seen almost all the companies making this sort of mess with one or two of their models..Greatest among those were SE Xperia X10 which even had the bootloader locked. The strong developer community here took up the challenge and everyone of XDA knows what height they took Xperia X10 upto. Its really great for us that this community still exists and that too for free gives support to so many phones. Even my Xperia x10 mini which Sony ditched after 2.1 can now run Jellybean. Thanks again to all the Devs and contributors of xda developers once again.
If i was about to buy a new smartphone nowadays, I would prefer the Htc one S..very nice performance, if you don't mind the
smaller screen (4.2 or 4.3, don't remember now) and the supposely 'old dualcore cpu'. I was impressed by the benchmark tests I saw, even higher than the new quad core phones.
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I bought myself a cheap Galaxy Nexus to replace my 1 year old O2X - it was just too tempting with the Jelly Bean release. But I will definately be looking at the next lineup supported by Google.
One thing is certain, I will never buy another phone from LG - their support and software for the O2X was a joke, I really hope they get their **** together soon (for everyone unfortunate enough to end up with one of their products).
Has anyone considered the HUAWEI line-up??
They are fairly cheap, good hardware and screens, incredible software support and , in my modest opinion, a very attractive design.
Look at where HUAWEI are present in modern communication technology today!!
They are all over, but covered by others facade.
Now they want to come out in the open and dont want to fail.
I bought the HUAWEI Honor for my mother, 70 years of age, and I am almost envious of that device. She loves it and uses it for everything!!
Despite all the software shortcomings of LG, I consider the O4X a very worthy replacement of my O2X, if I were to replace it right now
BR
Mike
http://www.challenges.fr/high-tech/...-explique-pourquoi-il-semble-introuvable.html
Now waiting for some dude to come here and tell me this should have been posted on that other dead-ass thread, and report this one to be closed.
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Now waiting for some dude to come here and tell me this should have been posted on that other dead-ass thread, and report this one to be closed.
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Ha.
Oh, and good for LG.
An article in French is not of much help...
and no, I'm not going to use Google Translate. I'd rather throw my phone at a wall.
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Cathy Robin, director of the division of LG Mobile France reported on the case that stirred the internet for over two months, the Nexus 4.
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LG has finally agreed to deliver the truth of the matter Nexus 4, the smartphone produced by Korean giant Google and ignites Internet since its launch in November. And for good reason. It is found. ( See the test )
Back to the facts. The smartphone sold on the online store GooglePlay.com November 13 faces a huge demand. Out of stock immediately after a few hours in several countries. And since buyers break their teeth with invariable "exhausted" before the two models (8GB and 16GB) . Since December, SFR offers the famous mobile subscription. Extras, it displays a prohibitive tariff: 629.90 euros against 349 euros on Google Play.
Rumors are also rife on the Internet: production voluntarily limited by LG and Google to create a buzz and volunteer shortage, production stoppage by the Korean giant for a new model of smartphone sales loss by Google ...
For Challenges.fr, Cathy Robin, Director of Mobile Communication LG France is the point.
What happens there with the Nexus 4, a highly competitive but unavailable?
- The Nexus 4 proposes an excellent technical specifications / price. Supply problems are not necessarily completely related to LG. Google has presented forecasts calculated according to their previous sales history of Nexus. But they have been less demand. Current deliveries of LG Google correspond to what had been pre-ordered on Google Play. We continue to deliver regularly. But it is lean. This is why the Nexus 4 is always shown as exhausted and the potential buyers feel they can not buy it. For example, the initial forecasts of Google were 10 times higher for United Kingdom and Germany. We deliver so much more in these countries than France. There was a balance that has been poorly anticipated. But be careful, I do not throw stones at anyone. Google and LG, it's going very well. Today, if we want to increase the frequency of deliveries, it takes about 6 weeks time.
The figure advanced smartphones 375,000 products is it true?
I do not know this number, but in any case it is much lower than the reality.
The Nexus 4 is it sold at a loss, as has been said?
We have no interest in selling at a loss. By cons there was an agreement between Google and LG to sell it at a very attractive price. And it's true that 299 euros for the 8GB and 349 euros for the 16 GB is a super attractive price.
Yet the SFR offers naked ... 629.90 euros
I do not have to answer for them, but I guess the purpose of SFR is to sell products with subscriptions.
Production Nexus 4 will she stop?
LG has denied reports [ rumors indicated that the Korean group plans to stop production ]. The Nexus 4 will not stop. On the contrary, the rate will increase. From mid-February, there will be more pressure on the market.
The Nexus 4 it can overshadow the G Optimus, the new flagship of the brand?
It will not shade the Optimus G which combines the best technology from LG [Qualcomm Snapdragon processor S4 Pro quad-core 1.5 GHz, 4.7-inch 1280x768 screen, 4G LTE, camera 13 MP ...] .. There is certainly a common trunk with the Nexus 4 but the ultimate focus. It will be in stores in March. It has particular function QSLIDE that simultaneously displays two different screens at the same time, function QuickMemo used to write notes and share them immediately. I can call my number while having the note displayed. It also has the live zoom that offers the ability to zoom during video playback ... We want to do anyway Nexus 4 and G major success.
In terms of sales, what are your goals for the Optimus G?
The Optimus G was launched two months ago in Korea, Japan and the United States. We shipped 1 million. The goal is to sell a lot and come tickle the market leaders.
LG has launched a lot of products ( 4X HD , the Vu, the Nexus 4 , G) with the sensation that the group is totally lacking in clarity. What is your strategy?
We went through a difficult period with ups and downs. It was therefore necessary to rebuild the foundation and fundamentals to claim back the top of the market. Must persuade consumers that we come back with quality products. We found the reliability, design and a very good position. It was regain market share in the mid-range for legitimacy. We will now highlight our brand with the L series of the mid-range 3G, 4G Series F and dual carrier with affordable rates. And there will be the G series for iconic products. Emphasis will be placed on top of the market not to mention the mid-range that is worn in France by the arrival of Free. They just reference the L9 is a good sign for us.
And the segment of very large screens?
We launched the view which allowed us to test the appetite for 4:3. It sold very well in Asia where Vu 2 is programmed. But it is a niche market. We will not persist in this format here in Europe. We do not want to disperse.
LG will he propose smartphones operating on Windows Phone 8?
We can all imagine but this is clearly not a priority. We are very pragmatic.
How is LG on the French market?
According to GFK, we had 6% market share in smartphones in late December. If we take only those who operate on Android, we are number 3 [behind Samsung and Sony ].
How do you see 2013?
It will be complicated. Operators to adapt to the offensive Free. There will be a reduction in subsidies. And then there's the arrival of 4G where we want to be a major player. In terms of objectives, should we double our market share, at least. This is ambitious. And if Sony is rather a nice trend, too.
To help condense it, here are some key points from the article:
According to the Director of Mobile Communication at LG France,
-Google based its forecasts on the sales of previous Nexus devices, but demand for the Nexus 4 has been greater than for Google's previous phones.
-LG's current shipments are still fulfilling previous Google Play orders
-Google overestimated demand in some markets and underestimated demand in others, meaning the stock available to ship to some locations was/is unbalanced.
-More devices have been manufactured than the 375,000-400,000 device estimate that popped up xda
-The low price is part of an agreement between Google and LG, but apparently the phone is not being sold at a loss.
No reference to the bumper cases or the wireless orb eh?
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Google needs better estimations: hire me!
"Why do you think people would ever want to spend twice as much on an optimus g"
"Because it's got bloatware that allows you to read a note while making a phone call"
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"Why do you think people would ever want to spend twice as much on an optimus g"
"Because it's got bloatware that allows you to read a note while making a phone call"
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It's actually a pretty nice device. When my sister came into town I was able to use the device for a bit. Overall, I was impressed.
Next question. When will those next devices already manufactured be pushed out? When the RMA's and other shipments processing are done?
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Its the logical explanation, although it doesnt make sense, google new how much the nexus 7 which was quite better than the galaxy nexus, why did they think it would be different with the nexus 4?
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"Why do you think people would ever want to spend twice as much on an optimus g"
"Because it's got bloatware that allows you to read a note while making a phone call"
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hahhahahahahahaha loved this! :laugh::good:
"We shipped 1 million. The goal is to sell a lot and come tickle the market leaders".
Thats alot and still its got demand.
Way to go Nexus brand.
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"We shipped 1 million. The goal is to sell a lot and come tickle the market leaders".
Thats alot and still its got demand.
Way to go Nexus brand.
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That was a quote about shipments of the Optimus G though.
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That was a quote about shipments of the Optimus G though.
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Ahhh, I read it was talking about the nexus.
Google translate sux. lol
OG isnt a selling out brand. Haha
is it possible to flash Optimus G to stock android? i would go for it if it's possible! :laugh:
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is it possible to flash Optimus G to stock android? i would go for it if it's possible! :laugh:
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There is a hack that converts the AT&T OG to a Nexus 4, but it's a bit too faithful of a conversion. The internal storage is limited to 8GB, no LTE (although it can be enabled in the testing menu), and it use the on-screen buttons instead of the capacitive ones.
Also, don't try to flash custom Nexus 4 ROMs to the converted OG -- it'll brick the phone.
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There is a hack that converts the AT&T OG to a Nexus 4, but it's a bit too faithful of a conversion. The internal storage is limited to 8GB, no LTE (although it can be enabled in the testing menu), and it use the on-screen buttons instead of the capacitive ones.
Also, don't try to flash custom Nexus 4 ROMs to the converted OG -- it'll brick the phone.
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noo i changed my mind. I would rather have fully functional JB on my trusty Gnex :laugh:
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noo i changed my mind. I would rather have fully functional JB on my trusty Gnex :laugh:
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While I'm stuck here with a temporary iPhone 4 because my trust Android broke :'(
COME ON LG!
Little correction !
It is said in the article, that everything should get back to normal by mid-february, so there will be less pressure on the market, not more.
My 0.02
did i read the translated text correctly ? Did the French lady say that Google over-estimated demand in UK and Germany and that is why France got so few ? Well I don''t know about Germany but I'll be kind here and say that as far as the UK is concerned the lady has got her facts completely wrong; and I can prove it along with many more in the UK, especially those still waiting for deliveries. I was on google store within minutes of this device being announced in the UK and I can tell you there were immediate problems and within 1.5mts it was impossible to order anymore. If, as the lady said, the UK was over-stocked how in the name of bee-jesus did we all have problems within 1.5mts of it being announced and some of us are still having problems. I think this lady is probably talking above her pay grade. Anyone who's worked in the corporate world would know that a country director is not necessarily that high up in the food chain.
Here's an interesting article I just came across on the Verge about a few sources saying the Google will retire the Nexus Line and reboot it with Android Silver handsets that will be sold in stores and highly marketed, but with presumably higher specs.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/29/5664702/google-nexus-to-be-replaced-by-android-silver
International Buinsess Article
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/5504...-release-date-specs-features.htm#.U2LtifldV8E
"The rumoured "Android Silver" line will replace the Nexus program. The line included more high-end and more expensive devices. It was claimed that Google wants to focus on giving consumers devices that are bumped in the hardware side while enjoying pure Android experience." (International Business)
What do you think? I would be willing to go for a all around premium "Nexus" phone as long as the cost wasn't too much and it worked on all major carriers.
simms22 said:
i call bs.
as every year there is another rumor that there wont be another nexus, yet every year comes a nexus.
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I'm hoping that this is not true, if it is, we should start an online petition to keep the Nexus brand going.. I hate bloatware, carrier logos and all of the other nonsense that comes on phones from the carriers. My last few phones have been Nexus devices, and everytime i buy a carrier branded phone, i just end up selling it or returning it. Once you go nexus you cant go back..
Just my .02 cents.
I just posted two similar links here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52289003
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I think that is only one more rumor surrounding Nexus brand
Google can call the program whatever they want to call it. As long as they offer a device with vanilla Android, without carrier and manufacturer bloatware, with at least mid-range specs at a reasonable price I'm happy.
Rumors only...lock it before it spreads! eeek
Guys we have the last nexus Google can't keep making this phone it hurts its partners and now with the one plus one there is no point. I prefer a premium device instead of the cuts made to nexus like battery and camera
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Some of you guys are still in the negation phase
i mean, i love the nexus line too, but there are many indications that Android Silver is going to become a reality soon, some of the leakers of this news are credible sources and probably with direct connections in Google itself (well at least more credible than random people on a forum stating the opposite with no clues whatsoever) . You do the maths.
Fataldesain said:
Guys we have the last nexus Google can't keep making this phone it hurts its partners and now with the one plus one there is no point.
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I hope you are joking. The OnePlus is not even on Google's radar. I would assume the Android Silver program is true based on who is reporting it. At the end of the day, Google isn't going to stop offering an affordable Android phone with vanilla Android. It seems the silver program is just extending the GPE program to carriers. Surely, they aren't killing off the Play Store so there are no worries. Whether or not they call their phones "Nexus" phones doesn't matter to me because one will still be available from the Play Store.
Cautiously optimistic about this. Could be interesting.
I hope they keep the competitive pricing...
I feel the android manufacturers and carriers are never going to want a reasonably priced google phone that is heavily marketed next to their pricy flagships. Something about it doesn't add up. If they are GPe priced i'm sure the carriers and manufacturers wouldn't mind but then marketing that is much harder and they wouldn't sell many. I just can't picture them being welcome in retail next to the other phones.
Seadra said:
idk, Android Silver concept first came in light few months back, and that time it was in the rumor stage, but now verge is reporting it and verge isn't one to bull**** users. Verge also has close contacts with Google, and it's sources can be trusted. Though I hope this DOESN'T happen. Also, next nexus will come this year, the android silver concept is staged for 2015.
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Verge after the Galaxy Nexus era is as much bullsh*t as the rest. Their review for the Nexus 5 is a joke for an example.
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Here's some more information about the possible Android Silver.
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/5504...-release-date-specs-features.htm#.U2LtifldV8E
"The rumoured "Android Silver" line will replace the Nexus program. The line included more high-end and more expensive devices. It was claimed that Google wants to focus on giving consumers devices that are bumped in the hardware side while enjoying pure Android experience." (International Business)
That's an even ****tier source than The Verge!
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IBtimes should be banned from posting anything about technology until they can do some fact checking. It's nothing but a clickbait site with a bunch of repeated in(or mis)formation.
This Android Silver idea sounds like it really could be a benefit if Google truly does put serious effort into it. I just think android has gotten to a point now that serious changes like this need to be considered in order to help potentially solve the issues many developers have (by having just a few "focus" devices every year". I own an iPad as well as N5 and I must say that the quality of most apps for the iPad are consistently phenomenal; I unfortunately can't say that in my experience with android (though the situation has majorly improved I'd say in the past year or so)
Melamunna said:
IBtimes should be banned from posting anything about technology until they can do some fact checking. It's nothing but a clickbait site with a bunch of repeated in(or mis)formation.
This Android Silver idea sounds like it really could be a benefit if Google truly does put serious effort into it. I just think android has gotten to a point now that serious changes like this need to be considered in order to help potentially solve the issues many developers have (by having just a few "focus" devices every year". I own an iPad as well as N5 and I must say that the quality of most apps for the iPad are consistently phenomenal; I unfortunately can't say that in my experience with android (though the situation has majorly improved I'd say in the past year or so)
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It's not often you see a non-geek for example carrying a Nexus 5. Those people would rather go for huge flagships that show up on TV. Google wants a piece of the pie now and so they're probably going the same route as Samsung while keeping Android as vanilla as possible. Besides if the Project Hera theme is to be true, the home button now says Google. Google is slowly but surely inserting their brand name into everything to directly compete with Apple and Samsung devices and services.
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Still think that this whole android silver thing is going to be similar to Google Play Edtion ( GPE ) phones.
There will be Xperia Z3 silver edition, HTC one M9 silver edition , Samsung Galaxy S6 Silver edition. All running vanilla android.
Just my 2 cents.
To me the issue is what you can and can't do in these supposed silver editions. Will they all have the freedom to flash this that and the other thing, downgrade boot loaders at will....etc etc.
The current developer edition phones of other makers still usually don't come with the freedom of a nexus. Not totally.
Again, my example is the moto x. All moto x's, including the developer edition, can't downgrade their os after flashing 4.4.2. The boot loader won't allow it. And those that find a way to downgrade, and make one false move....brick their phones. So that phone is not even close to the flexibility of a nexus.
That's my worry.
I think that Google won't do this
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Hey guys,
So, as you already know, the end of 2015 is near and in just a couple of weeks we'll enter 2016, embracing the new devices, new technologies, new chips that will reside in your future phones and tablets, and perhaps will see interesting changes to the manufacturers from around the world as one makes a mistake, while others learn and improve from theirs
Seeing as how this year has been a really interesting one for pretty much every OEM out there, whether the device manufacturedc shipped with Android, iOS, Windows or other operating system, like when Motorola kinda disappointed us with updates for Moto E, LG pumped out great G4 and V10, and Samsung went backwards on the Galaxy S6.
Nevertheless, I think we can all agree that this year everybody found a device to pick up, no matter if its on the low-end pricing model like the Moto G or Xperia E4, or a solid mid-range like Nexus 5X and Motorola X Play, going into the premium-class range of top-devices like Xperia Z5, Galaxy S6, iPhone 6S, Nexus 6P, and many others
But I guess I'll get straight to the point:
What, in your opinion, were the Top-10 best mobile devices released througout 2015?
If you can't put them in a straight-up order - no fear, just list them here and we'll discuss it together
Aaaaaaand GO!