As with phones, are there any downsides to rooting and custom romming the watch?
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I haven´t found any.
dodgebizkit said:
As with phones, are there any downsides to rooting and custom romming the watch?
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to make it very simple, gear is useless if you are not planning to put custom rom on it.
Null ROM functionality is MUCH better than stock rom - much greater than the difference between stock phone ROM and custom phone ROM.
One (possible) drawback is that in case You need to return your GEAR for the warranty repair - Sammy may say "sorry this is not our system.. " and just cancel Your warranty.
hurdlejade said:
to make it very simple, gear is useless if you are not planning to put custom rom on it.
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Just got mine today so far upgraded the firmware. Will root and custom rom it eventually. My question is when rooted and running a custm rom what is battery life like. Better, same, worse. Just in general thanks.
lukasz said:
Null ROM functionality is MUCH better than stock rom - much greater than the difference between stock phone ROM and custom phone ROM.
One (possible) drawback is that in case You need to return your GEAR for the warranty repair - Sammy may say "sorry this is not our system.. " and just cancel Your warranty.
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I thought you could just odin back to factory
I rooted mine and that's all I need. Got the latest firmware notifications are nice. Tried null rom but couldn't care less about Nova on my watch it kind of lost its simplistic appeal. I like gear manager. With root I managed to put keyboard and still, it's good for that sort of thing. So I say root no rom. Cheers!
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rayhodge02 said:
I thought you could just odin back to factory
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Can you do that and have it as stock and able to fully run as stock including OTA update?
hurdlejade said:
to make it very simple, gear is useless if you are not planning to put custom rom on it.
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Useless? I wouldn't follow this advice in the slightest if you are considering rooting. Yes, it surely improves the feature set of the Gear, but I have it non-rooted and love what it can do.
rayhodge02 said:
I thought you could just odin back to factory
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Sure - if the state of the fault allows You to revert to the stock ROM You will be OK - no problem with warranty...
lukasz said:
Sure - if the state of the fault allows You to revert to the stock ROM You will be OK - no problem with warranty...
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Quick question guys. For the Null rom, do you need to be rooted before installing the ROM? The instructions aren't very clear on if that is necessary.
amsguitarist said:
Quick question guys. For the Null rom, do you need to be rooted before installing the ROM? The instructions aren't very clear on if that is necessary.
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NO need to be rooted. Flashing ROM is enough.
hurdlejade said:
to make it very simple, gear is useless if you are not planning to put custom rom on it.
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What total nonsense.....
Questions about Null ROM:
1 - Do you lose S voice? Cuz I like talking to it to send texts
2 - Do you lose notifications from phone apps? I need to have my outlook email notifications. This is a MUST!
3 - Do you lose some gear apps? I like feedly, evernote ,speedometer, tweet quickview
4 - Do you lose any synchronisation of calendar and contacts? Especially those from outlook. Again... this is a MUST!
I realize that overall the Null ROM is better, but I do have some MUST HAVES and a few I REALLY LIKE THIS, that I just don't want to lose. It's not very clear to me what stock Gear features are or can be lost if I switch to the Null rom.
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i have come from a htc hd2 so i like to change roms alot.
what should i do with the galaxy note ?
i would like ICS so what are the steps ?
any help please
Have a good search round this forum and make sure you understand clearly how everything works before you decide to start flashing, I came from the HTC Desire and the Galaxy Note is a whole different ball game. Enjoy you new Galaxy Note
is the official ics update any good ?
what does rooting do ?
I personally didn't like the official ICS update, that is when I decided to flash a custom ROM.
Rooting gives you more control over your phone, lets you install apps like "Titanium Backup" that require root permissions to run.
i have the la6 kernel
im lost
watercooled223 said:
is the official ics update any good ?
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Apparently this really depends on your location. For example the one Samsung released here (France, 4 months after being announced, too) was so broken it bricked a number of terminals and was subsequently withdrawn. With no word of when a fix will come.
Apparently other areas had working systems. One would think it would just be a matter of strings to translate and a few apps to package, so it's all very puzzling to someone who isn't familiar with Android (I've been intimately familiar with Linux for more than 20 years, and Unix before that, but I still don't get it).
And then, as you'll see by browsing the forums, many people seem to have issues with ICS. Issues that (IMO) just don't seem to make much sense in a system that would have been tested for a couple days by an intern somewhere...
OTOH, many people apparently have no issues.
So as with everything on the network, I suppose YMMV, take it with a grain of salt, yada yada... void where applicable.
See if anything is reported about your proposed (if any) update. Then decide if it's worth it (maybe it is).
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what does rooting do ?
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Same as on any other terminal ? Lets you access functions that are typically "off limits". Among the most useful ones, you can now read/write anywhere. Which means you can allow/deny anything for any application. And notably block all those silly annoying bundled apps so they won't want to update any more, or, if you like, even start (a process known as freezing).
Have a look at the videos in my signature once..
For Rom official one is good but custom ones are great..
All roms are unique in their own way...the ones that stand out as totally awesome are Paranoid Android and TMT Hybrid IMUI...
Its your choice...
thanks guys
does the la6 kernel complicate things ?
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thanks guys
does the la6 kernel complicate things ?
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Yes.... Speedmod is adviced for stock ics...
its still on gingerbread at the moment
ok im now rooted and installed cwm and done a backup of the stock rom.
now i want to install the paranoid android ics rom.
im coming from the stock gingerbread GB rom
do i need to wipe first ?
all done
now rooted and running paranoid android
thanks guys for the links and the help
now that i have paranoidandroid installed am i able to try any other custom roms ?
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now that i have paranoidandroid installed am i able to try any other custom roms ?
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yes, just be careful, follow instruction to the dot, and don't take any shortcuts,
also, it's good to have tb backup, as additional security precaution
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yes, just be careful, follow instruction to the dot, and don't take any shortcuts,
also, it's good to have tb backup, as additional security precaution
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does this mean that i have one of the safe kernels installed ?
sorry whats tb backup ?
i have made a backup of the original rom if thats what you mean ?
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does this mean that i have one of the safe kernels installed ?
sorry whats tb backup ?
i have made a backup of the original rom if thats what you mean ?
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1. probably, but make sure in paranoid thread,
2. I assume you have done cwm backup, which will be rather useless when switching ROMs, having tb (i.e.Titanium Backup) backup you can generally restore your apps and data between roms (except for the system ones)
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yes all backed up with cwm and tb.
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its still on gingerbread at the moment
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And that was the right thing to have for the time being, too bad you hurried on to ICS. In my opinion, when you have a new phone, you have to know it, enjoy it, love it ( ? ), installed a couple of hundred apps, and then, after being more than familiar whith it, it would be time to upgrade it, tweak it, etc., so the change could be apreciatte. It's like eating always the desert at first, withouth eating the soup and the salad.
As for rooting, if you had to ask, you probably did't need to root, but since that's already done, I'll give you a hint. There is one VERY interesting thing about rooting which anyone would find usefull. The posibility of using a Firewall. In this way, you could not only block those annoying ads (and save a little battery since the ads have to download from Internet). You can also protect your device from troyan / spy applications, which are increasingly expanding in android. For example, a simple sound board app, or a screen saver, ¿why should it use your internet connection? ¿To what ends?
Enjoy the Note, it's a hell of a phone.
I've got a new update for my gear live, but my question is will it ruin the root or custom rom on it? I'd rather be safe then sorry.
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I've got a new update for my gear live, but my question is will it ruin the root or custom rom on it? I'd rather be safe then sorry.
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You'll probably lose root. If you're on octathorps 0.1 Rom, update to 0.2 to bring yourself to the latest version
I have a Tab S. Great for watching videos. Awful for everything else.
I've been thinking of modding it with Cyanogenmod. And especially to get rid of those capacitive keys on the bezel, worst design decision ever on a tablet.
What is the status of CM on the Tab S? Is it noticably faster? Better? Worth the trouble?
I'm horrible at modding tablets. Last one took me like 4 hours. What is the best distro and method?
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I have a Tab S. Great for watching videos. Awful for everything else.
I've been thinking of modding it with Cyanogenmod. And especially to get rid of those capacitive keys on the bezel, worst design decision ever on a tablet.
What is the status of CM on the Tab S? Is it noticably faster? Better? Worth the trouble?
I'm horrible at modding tablets. Last one took me like 4 hours. What is the best distro and method?
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I can't speak on the how long it would take to install or anything like that, but based on the CM11 thread in the Galaxy Tab S General section, it seems like its flying and is working very well.
Development for CM is getting some progress, but I would wait till most things on it are almost bug free or at least when its stable is when I would install it. I believe you have to install the kernal and rom with twrp? Personally Im not going to install it since it deals with a custom kernal. Im fine with installing custom roms but installing custom kernals is what scares me since this is my first android tablet. As if now im on stock rooted rom (with debloated and frozen apps)and I get about 8 hours on just watching youtube.
Flashing a custom kernel is no different than flashing a custom ROM. You install a ZIP file through CWM or TWRP. The risks involved are the same. Flash the wrong file and your tablet is a shiny paperweight.
Ceep cool, guys. Flashing is no rocketscience.
Rule of thumb: as long, as you don't flash a recobery image, you always can go back to recobery (from where you can restore your nandroid) - even if you destroy your recoverypartition, you can go in donwloadmode and reflash a recovery from odin. Making a paperweight of your tab by flashing a costumrom (which inderd contains a non-sammy kernel) is quite unlikely.
So go ahead. Knox will be broken permanently - but there are quite a lot threads.
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Ceep cool, guys. Flashing is no rocketscience.
Rule of thumb: as long, as you don't flash a recobery image, you always can go back to recobery (from where you can restore your nandroid) - even if you destroy your recoverypartition, you can go in donwloadmode and reflash a recovery from odin. Making a paperweight of your tab by flashing a costumrom (which inderd contains a non-sammy kernel) is quite unlikely.
So go ahead. Knox will be broken permanently - but there are quite a lot threads.
Nvertigo
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Thanks for that! But what would happen if odin cant flash stock back on. Like some people had some error in which they needed a pit file so odin can flash a rom on a device. How would you get a pit file?
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Thanks for that! But what would happen if odin cant flash stock back on. Like some people had some error in which they needed a pit file so odin can flash a rom on a device. How would you get a pit file?
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You are right. "quite unlikely" implies it's still possibble the some people can do something and some devices have afterwards some errors... For sure: you van brick and even hard brick devices - but it's unlikely, if you do your homework (reading, reading and reading... ). If you don't feel comfortable after research, stay away from flashing. 'Cause - again: youmare right - it is possinle to hard brick an expensive device.
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You are right. "quite unlikely" implies it's still possibble the some people can do something and some devices have afterwards some errors... For sure: you van brick and even hard brick devices - but it's unlikely, if you do your homework (reading, reading and reading... ). If you don't feel comfortable after research, stay away from flashing. 'Cause - again: youmare right - it is possinle to hard brick an expensive device.
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Im fine with flashing with twrp. Its just odin is what i stay away from. I still have my stock rooted rom backup in twrp. Its just the backup has a messed up hosts file in which google servers are blocked. So everytime i restore to my backup i have to download root broswer from the internet browser and delete the hosts file.
Waitin for multirom to be non stocknkernel usable..then illl test cm11
Ok but what about performance CM11 vs stock? CM11 is better? I hate LagWiz.. it's incredibly irritating especially i have LG G2 withCM11 that works fine and really smooth. I'm afraid of knox flag but I'm ready to risk if CM11 change my Tab S and let me forget about lags.
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Ok but what about performance CM11 vs stock? CM11 is better? I hate LagWiz.. it's incredibly irritating especially i have LG G2 withCM11 that works fine and really smooth. I'm afraid of knox flag but I'm ready to risk if CM11 change my Tab S and let me forget about lags.
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I only LagWiz is anoying install Novalauncher or any other third party launcher and delete sammy Launcher with Titanium.
If you want the fullcm-expirience: go for cm. It's development, mic broken, and some other issues (hey, there is a thread where progress on this cm is discussed), but its quit stable and fast. And its true cm.
I only LagWiz is anoying install Novalauncher or any other third party launcher and delete sammy Launcher with Titanium.
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I have Nova but i need root to delete TW launcher?
I will follow cm's thread. Thanks
robson2222 said:
I have Nova but i need root to delete TW launcher?
I will follow cm's thread. Thanks
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Whatever the android related question might be - the answer is nearly always: first you need your device rooted...
Yes you need root for uninstalling system apps.
For cm you need a costum recovery, and cm comes rooted.
nvertigo67 said:
I only LagWiz is anoying install Novalauncher or any other third party launcher and delete sammy Launcher with Titanium.
If you want the fullcm-expirience: go for cm. It's development, mic broken, and some other issues (hey, there is a thread where progress on this cm is discussed), but its quit stable and fast. And its true cm.
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As far as I know the mic is working just fine.
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As far as I know the mic is working just fine.
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Probably on klimtwifi and chagallwifi - but not on chagallwifi. Thats one of the main issues. The sound implementatikn seems to differ on all the 5420 devices.
BTW: Thanx for your work on kimt wifi. From my point of view it lools like crpalmer (cm picassowifi maintainer) started from your work, and I started from picassowifi... So: Thanx.
I had to rewrite a chunk of the audio primary hal and created a mixer_paths.XML from scratch. It even involved some printk love in the kernel to figure out what the kernel driver was expecting. Probably some of the toughtest (though all entertaining) part of the port for me.
If you have questions I might be able to help.
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I had to rewrite a chunk of the audio primary hal and created a mixer_paths.XML from scratch. It even involved some printk love in the kernel to figure out what the kernel driver was expecting. Probably some of the toughtest (though all entertaining) part of the port for me.
If you have questions I might be able to help.
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I come back to your offer. Few days ago I wrote: mixer_paths.xml was invented by a much more complex mind then me... Now I get to now him... At the moment a had tomslow down a little and get some distance, but I would be glad to contact you in a few days. Thank you.
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I come back to your offer. Few days ago I wrote: mixer_paths.xml was invented by a much more complex mind then me... Now I get to now him... At the moment a had tomslow down a little and get some distance, but I would be glad to contact you in a few days. Thank you.
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I totally understand the distance thing. I got lost in getting the initial port up. Probably took me close to 80 hours over the period of three weeks. I now restrict myself to checking the forums twice a week and one night a week coding on the port.
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I totally understand the distance thing. I got lost in getting the initial port up. Probably took me close to 80 hours over the period of three weeks. I now restrict myself to checking the forums twice a week and one night a week coding on the port.
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It will be really great to see a cm port for the 8.4inch lte model as well.your port for the wifi was really popular.
Honestly,tab s has one of the better hardware out in the marke.but TW is quite another matter.
i dun see any cm in the forums to make me wanna trip that knox crap. and i am holding out for the xperia z3 compact tablet.the pces on that on is comparable with the tab with only the screen losing out.
I find it quite astonishing to read so often about the horrible experiences with the tab s. Maybe im living in a parallel universe, as i love the tab s, and i havent even debloated it yet.
Sure there are micro stutters, but much less then on my iPad 4. The screen is great and everything else is working flawlessly for me... even the apps are nearly on par with iOS. I wont go back,
thats for sure... just wonder whats up with all those complains.
Hey fellows,
After having the Gear VR sitting at my desk for a couple of days I finally received my Note 4 (N910F). Updated it to Lollipop right away and afterwards tested the Gear VR, which was working just fine.
As the stock rom didn't gave me the freedom I needed / wanted I rooted it and installed a custom rom (EchoePop). After setting everything up I tried to fire up the VR. Installing the apps etc was no big deal. As soon as I plugged it into the VR I heard the sound and see the blue start screen. This only gives me the loading graphic and doesn't go any further.
Because I thought they might removed this service as part of their de-bloating I installed the Alexndr Lollipop because it's a stock rom that only removed apps that you can find in the Play Store. Same procedure here but also the same result.
The kernel shouldn't be a problem here, I guess. Besides from the fact that there is no lollipop custom kernel available yet?!
Did someone have a similar experience and knows the solution for it? I hope it's not an overall issue with custom rom.
Thanks,
FutureBSD
Doesn't work with stock lollipop either. Tried stock then custom odexed and deodexed. From what I read it is kernel related, sammy sent the kernel to oculus to mod it for gear vr which was the reason for the lolipop delay. Hopefully it will be fixed in the next round of lolipop releases, pretty sure that's why the USA variants don't have lolipop yet.
Ah alright. I heard the rumors that they delayed the Lollipop release because of this. As they released Lollipop I was just assuming that it had been fixed. And I thought I tested it after updating to Lollipop. Well, maybe I mixed that up.
I was the same but all i can think of is maybe the vr isn't released in Germany so they released it there first and are waiting for oculus to fix the kernel before the next round of releases. Really hope so as I've had to go back to kk
The VR has been released in Germany. I ordered it there as I live in Germany. Also I just read on Reddit that people have it working on Lollipop but it doesn't seem to be the best experience.
Wow can you link me please as I don't know anyone who has it working on lollipop. Would like to know how they did it
Sure thing. I post the link to the discussion on Reddit and the Oculus forum. It's the same topic but the official Oculus forum might be the better source for quicker official updates.
Topic on the Oculus forum
Topic on Reddit
Now I'm back to zero and have to figure out what the problem is.
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Sure thing. I post the link to the discussion on Reddit and the Oculus forum. It's the same topic but the official Oculus forum might be the better source for quicker official updates.
Topic on the Oculus forum
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Now I'm back to zero and have to figure out what the problem is.
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Wonder if it's exynos and snapdragon? Maybe works ok on exynos. I've tried everything and it just won't launch for me
This is something specific to an item that's removed in the custom rom. I had this exact issue on Exynos as well, custom rom was blue screen, then shaded black/blue screen, both static.
Flashing a rooted stock made it magically work.
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This is something specific to an item that's removed in the custom rom. I had this exact issue on Exynos as well, custom rom was blue screen, then shaded black/blue screen, both static.
Flashing a rooted stock made it magically work.
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That's what I was thinking. That's why I went for the Alexndr Rom. He didn't debloat so much. It's almost like the stock. But maybe I will try the stock rom again.
Maybe a Csc issue?
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That's what I was thinking. That's why I went for the Alexndr Rom. He didn't debloat so much. It's almost like the stock. But maybe I will try the stock rom again.
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Looks like it's root that breaks it
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This is something specific to an item that's removed in the custom rom. I had this exact issue on Exynos as well, custom rom was blue screen, then shaded black/blue screen, both static.
Flashing a rooted stock made it magically work.
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Why fight it guys, just go stock rooted. You can add many of the best goodies yourself anyway using xPosed Modules. Lollipop is so damn fast and pretty on it's own the benefits of debloat and all that aren't as significant anyway. I'm sure they'll sort it eventually. Good luck.
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Looks like it's root that breaks it
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This is incorrect, I am currently rooted and everything works fine. Well, better than fine, since I am able to do rooty things.
Domen Lo said:
This is incorrect, I am currently rooted and everything works fine. Well, better than fine, since I am able to do rooty things.
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Wierd it never worked for me at all on lollipop and all I did was root stock
I'm currently checking with _Alexndr what has been touched by him during creation. But maybe it's just something simple like the Device status that's changing from Original to Custom. Wouldn't be surprised after all the Knox warranty crap
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Wierd it never worked for me at all on lollipop and all I did was root stock
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Did you full wipe prior to flashing the rom? When restoring your apps, did you uncheck data and make sure you didn't restore any system apps? Any conflict could be breaking things. Have you tried flashing the rom clean and running GVR prior to restoring anything? Are you running Xposed or does it come with the rom? That has a history of causing problems on occasion. Try deleting it and see what happens.
** I know you're an experienced user and this stuff is probably obvious to you. Just throwing out ideas. Almost 4,000 thanks and you're not a developer? I'm impressed.
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Did you full wipe prior to flashing the rom? When restoring your apps, did you uncheck data and make sure you didn't restore any system apps? Any conflict could be breaking things. Have you tried flashing the rom clean and running GVR prior to restoring anything? Are you running Xposed or does it come with the rom? That has a history of causing problems on occasion. Try deleting it and see what happens.
** I know you're an experienced user and this stuff is probably obvious to you. Just throwing out ideas. Almost 4,000 thanks and you're not a developer? I'm impressed.
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I didn't wipe when i used odin and obviously never restored anything. I did full wipe on every twrp flashable zip I've flashed though. I've flashed deodexed and odexed roms both made with archi that were just plain rooted stock with only busybox and init.d support added.
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I didn't wipe when i used odin and obviously never restored anything. I did full wipe on every twrp flashable zip I've flashed though. I've flashed deodexed and odexed roms both made with archi that were just plain rooted stock with only busybox and init.d support added.
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When you Odin Stock it leaves your setup intact, doesn't it? Maybe if you full wipe then Odin stock it will work for you?
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When you Odin Stock it leaves your setup intact, doesn't it? Maybe if you full wipe then Odin stock it will work for you?
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I know that's what I was thinking. Tbh I'm staying on kk till sammy release the kernel source anyway, can't user viper sound without permissive kernel and still no xposed for sammy kk yet
Are there any other mod packs, similar to MCR, that enables custom ROM customizations to the stock ROM?
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Are there any other mod packs, similar to MCR, that enables custom ROM customizations to the stock ROM?
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Mods or apps that make changes to system settings/files always require root. Try for instance custom launchers to add some features if you don`t want to root.
I am rooted
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I am rooted
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You haven`t mentioned that But MCR should work if its compatible with your build. I advice to make a TWRP nandroid backup before you go flashing just in case.
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You haven`t mentioned that But MCR should work if its compatible with your build. I advice to make a TWRP nandroid backup before you go flashing just in case.
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Lol I already have MCR installed. I'm looking for more customization options
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Lol I already have MCR installed. I'm looking for more customization options
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Could you give some more info next time you ask for help? Like what rom you`re running, rooted or not, mods installed, custom/stock kernel etc etc :silly:
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Could you give some more info next time you ask for help? Like what rom you`re running, rooted or not, mods installed, custom/stock kernel etc etc :silly:
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Sorry, I assumed the fact that I was even mentioning customizations would indicate that I was rooted. But yeah, I'm running rooted stock, stock kernel, and using the MCR mod pack. I'm wondering if there are other mod packs similar to MCR?
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Sorry, I assumed the fact that I was even mentioning customizations would indicate that I was rooted. But yeah, I'm running rooted stock, stock kernel, and using the MCR mod pack. I'm wondering if there are other mod packs similar to MCR?
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There are no other mod packs that I am aware of, though there is always Xposed, but it is in Alpha stage so if you're not a confident modder, probably stay away.
Why not use a custom ROM though?
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There are no other mod packs that I am aware of, though there is always Xposed, but it is in Alpha stage so if you're not a confident modder, probably stay away.
Why not use a custom ROM though?
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Stock is better and more stable. Custom roms are fine, but a hassle to install and the easiest way to end up with a bricked phone. I have installed a custom ROM before, stock is a better experience.
Sorry, before I answer, my question was to find out your reasons and see if there was anything I could help you overcome. My intention is to help set your mind at ease, but given the reasons you've given, I apologise in advance of my answers seem like I'm just being a git.
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Stock is better and more stable.
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I think that would be a sweeping generalisation and mostly the opposite of my experience. There is a nack to choosing roms though.
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Custom roms are fine, but a hassle to install
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a hassle how? Download rom and gapps to sdcard, flash via recovery, wipe data, restore user apps. Don't forget you can't get OTA updates with root, mod packs and custom recovery so that's even more of a hassle imho.
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and the easiest way to end up with a bricked phone.
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I think that is another sweeping generalisation. I haven't ever seen anyone brick their phone with a custom rom.. Assuming you're using the correct definition whereby phone must be sent to the manufacturer for repair... The most I've seen is someone flashing a kernel or bootloader from the wrong device, or disconnecting mid-flash which can all be fine as stock too.. Though there was that time when cyanogen tried to downgrade the bootloader, though we tend to stay away from them anyway.
Maybe your reasons are born of a lack of confidence and that's understandable. The reasons you have however aren't really reasons though.
I would agree that it's mostly lack of confidence. I mean who would be confident in installing a custom ROM when there's always that warning about bricking and damaging the device. Why risk it? In my experience, it's not installing the ROM that's a hassle, but switching roms or returning to stock. And also having to factory reset the device constantly is very tedious.
toledodj said:
I would agree that it's mostly lack of confidence. I mean who would be confident in installing a custom ROM when there's always that warning about bricking and damaging the device. Why risk it?
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The warnings are a general disclaimer so there is no come back on the dev. Ever wonder why some packs of nuts say "may contain nuts"? Its the same sort of thing.
There's no more risk flashing custom roms than flashing stock roms or OTA updates. In fact I think there is less risk. And by flashing mod packs, you're already taking the exact same risk as flashing a custom ROM, so I don't understand the logic.
toledodj said:
I would agree that it's mostly lack of confidence. I mean who would be confident in installing a custom ROM when there's always that warning about bricking and damaging the device. Why risk it?
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Mostly people with none or very low understanding of rooting, flashing, adb and such are a high risk for bricking their phone.
The big picture is:
- make sure the fastboot drivers are installed correctly
- Enable adb debugging and enable oem unlock, both in developer options
- Unlock the bootloader in fastboot
- Flash TWRP recovery and make a nandroid backup
- Flash a custom rom and Google apps
- Optional flash a custom kernel
- Flash superSU.zip
- Reboot and thats it
rootSU said:
The warnings are a general disclaimer so there is no come back on the dev. Ever wonder why some packs of nuts say "may contain nuts"? Its the same sort of thing.
There's no more risk flashing custom roms than flashing stock roms or OTA updates. In fact I think there is less risk. And by flashing mod packs, you're already taking the exact same risk as flashing a custom ROM, so I don't understand the logic.
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True. Don't get me wrong. I have no problem with installing roms and, admittedly, I enjoy the rush while going through the process. Okay, say I did want to install a custom ROM, what's the best one for N6?
toledodj said:
True. Don't get me wrong. I have no problem with installing roms and, admittedly, I enjoy the rush while going through the process. Okay, say I did want to install a custom ROM, what's the best one for N6?
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He he bit of a loaded question. My favourite ROM is in alpha so I can't recommend that but a couple with good functionality and stability
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I really hope i havent bullied you into flashing a ROM
rootSU said:
He he bit of a loaded question. My favourite ROM is in alpha so I can't recommend that but a couple with good functionality and stability
Chroma
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I really hope i havent bullied you into flashing a ROM
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No not at all. A while ago, I always installed custom roms, but I wanted to see how much can be customized with the stock ROM. Now I'm pretty sure I've done all I can w/ stock. I've heard Euphoria is pretty good also. Is that true?
toledodj said:
No not at all. A while ago, I always installed custom roms, but I wanted to see how much can be customized with the stock ROM. Now I'm pretty sure I've done all I can w/ stock. I've heard Euphoria is pretty good also. Is that true?
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Best way to find out? Try it for yourself. Also, returning to stock on a Nexus is the easiest thing, just a basic understanding of fastboot. There's a guide for that, in the general forum. Look in the sticky roll up thread.
That's the beauty of a Nexus, the simplicity of modification. The amount of development.
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Best way to find out? Try it for yourself. Also, returning to stock on a Nexus is the easiest thing, just a basic understanding of fastboot. There's a guide for that, in the general forum. Look in the sticky roll up thread.
That's the beauty of a Nexus, the simplicity of modification. The amount of development.
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Ikr. That's why I chose N6. Thanks for the input.
toledodj said:
No not at all. A while ago, I always installed custom roms, but I wanted to see how much can be customized with the stock ROM. Now I'm pretty sure I've done all I can w/ stock. I've heard Euphoria is pretty good also. Is that true?
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I cant comment on that because I haven't tried it or seen it recommended anywhere. That's not to say it's not good, I'm sure it is.
Best way to find a ROM in my opinion, look at the feature set and find one you like, then read a bit of the early pages of a thread them a few at the end to get a feel about what the users think.
Hopefully soon, Xposed will become stable and a whole world will open up to 5.1 users.