Are there any other mod packs, similar to MCR, that enables custom ROM customizations to the stock ROM?
toledodj said:
Are there any other mod packs, similar to MCR, that enables custom ROM customizations to the stock ROM?
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Mods or apps that make changes to system settings/files always require root. Try for instance custom launchers to add some features if you don`t want to root.
I am rooted
toledodj said:
I am rooted
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You haven`t mentioned that But MCR should work if its compatible with your build. I advice to make a TWRP nandroid backup before you go flashing just in case.
gee2012 said:
You haven`t mentioned that But MCR should work if its compatible with your build. I advice to make a TWRP nandroid backup before you go flashing just in case.
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Lol I already have MCR installed. I'm looking for more customization options
toledodj said:
Lol I already have MCR installed. I'm looking for more customization options
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Could you give some more info next time you ask for help? Like what rom you`re running, rooted or not, mods installed, custom/stock kernel etc etc :silly:
gee2012 said:
Could you give some more info next time you ask for help? Like what rom you`re running, rooted or not, mods installed, custom/stock kernel etc etc :silly:
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Sorry, I assumed the fact that I was even mentioning customizations would indicate that I was rooted. But yeah, I'm running rooted stock, stock kernel, and using the MCR mod pack. I'm wondering if there are other mod packs similar to MCR?
toledodj said:
Sorry, I assumed the fact that I was even mentioning customizations would indicate that I was rooted. But yeah, I'm running rooted stock, stock kernel, and using the MCR mod pack. I'm wondering if there are other mod packs similar to MCR?
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There are no other mod packs that I am aware of, though there is always Xposed, but it is in Alpha stage so if you're not a confident modder, probably stay away.
Why not use a custom ROM though?
rootSU said:
There are no other mod packs that I am aware of, though there is always Xposed, but it is in Alpha stage so if you're not a confident modder, probably stay away.
Why not use a custom ROM though?
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Stock is better and more stable. Custom roms are fine, but a hassle to install and the easiest way to end up with a bricked phone. I have installed a custom ROM before, stock is a better experience.
Sorry, before I answer, my question was to find out your reasons and see if there was anything I could help you overcome. My intention is to help set your mind at ease, but given the reasons you've given, I apologise in advance of my answers seem like I'm just being a git.
toledodj said:
Stock is better and more stable.
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I think that would be a sweeping generalisation and mostly the opposite of my experience. There is a nack to choosing roms though.
toledodj said:
Custom roms are fine, but a hassle to install
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a hassle how? Download rom and gapps to sdcard, flash via recovery, wipe data, restore user apps. Don't forget you can't get OTA updates with root, mod packs and custom recovery so that's even more of a hassle imho.
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and the easiest way to end up with a bricked phone.
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I think that is another sweeping generalisation. I haven't ever seen anyone brick their phone with a custom rom.. Assuming you're using the correct definition whereby phone must be sent to the manufacturer for repair... The most I've seen is someone flashing a kernel or bootloader from the wrong device, or disconnecting mid-flash which can all be fine as stock too.. Though there was that time when cyanogen tried to downgrade the bootloader, though we tend to stay away from them anyway.
Maybe your reasons are born of a lack of confidence and that's understandable. The reasons you have however aren't really reasons though.
I would agree that it's mostly lack of confidence. I mean who would be confident in installing a custom ROM when there's always that warning about bricking and damaging the device. Why risk it? In my experience, it's not installing the ROM that's a hassle, but switching roms or returning to stock. And also having to factory reset the device constantly is very tedious.
toledodj said:
I would agree that it's mostly lack of confidence. I mean who would be confident in installing a custom ROM when there's always that warning about bricking and damaging the device. Why risk it?
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The warnings are a general disclaimer so there is no come back on the dev. Ever wonder why some packs of nuts say "may contain nuts"? Its the same sort of thing.
There's no more risk flashing custom roms than flashing stock roms or OTA updates. In fact I think there is less risk. And by flashing mod packs, you're already taking the exact same risk as flashing a custom ROM, so I don't understand the logic.
toledodj said:
I would agree that it's mostly lack of confidence. I mean who would be confident in installing a custom ROM when there's always that warning about bricking and damaging the device. Why risk it?
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Mostly people with none or very low understanding of rooting, flashing, adb and such are a high risk for bricking their phone.
The big picture is:
- make sure the fastboot drivers are installed correctly
- Enable adb debugging and enable oem unlock, both in developer options
- Unlock the bootloader in fastboot
- Flash TWRP recovery and make a nandroid backup
- Flash a custom rom and Google apps
- Optional flash a custom kernel
- Flash superSU.zip
- Reboot and thats it
rootSU said:
The warnings are a general disclaimer so there is no come back on the dev. Ever wonder why some packs of nuts say "may contain nuts"? Its the same sort of thing.
There's no more risk flashing custom roms than flashing stock roms or OTA updates. In fact I think there is less risk. And by flashing mod packs, you're already taking the exact same risk as flashing a custom ROM, so I don't understand the logic.
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True. Don't get me wrong. I have no problem with installing roms and, admittedly, I enjoy the rush while going through the process. Okay, say I did want to install a custom ROM, what's the best one for N6?
toledodj said:
True. Don't get me wrong. I have no problem with installing roms and, admittedly, I enjoy the rush while going through the process. Okay, say I did want to install a custom ROM, what's the best one for N6?
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He he bit of a loaded question. My favourite ROM is in alpha so I can't recommend that but a couple with good functionality and stability
Chroma
Terminus
I really hope i havent bullied you into flashing a ROM
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He he bit of a loaded question. My favourite ROM is in alpha so I can't recommend that but a couple with good functionality and stability
Chroma
Terminus
I really hope i havent bullied you into flashing a ROM
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No not at all. A while ago, I always installed custom roms, but I wanted to see how much can be customized with the stock ROM. Now I'm pretty sure I've done all I can w/ stock. I've heard Euphoria is pretty good also. Is that true?
toledodj said:
No not at all. A while ago, I always installed custom roms, but I wanted to see how much can be customized with the stock ROM. Now I'm pretty sure I've done all I can w/ stock. I've heard Euphoria is pretty good also. Is that true?
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Best way to find out? Try it for yourself. Also, returning to stock on a Nexus is the easiest thing, just a basic understanding of fastboot. There's a guide for that, in the general forum. Look in the sticky roll up thread.
That's the beauty of a Nexus, the simplicity of modification. The amount of development.
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Best way to find out? Try it for yourself. Also, returning to stock on a Nexus is the easiest thing, just a basic understanding of fastboot. There's a guide for that, in the general forum. Look in the sticky roll up thread.
That's the beauty of a Nexus, the simplicity of modification. The amount of development.
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Ikr. That's why I chose N6. Thanks for the input.
toledodj said:
No not at all. A while ago, I always installed custom roms, but I wanted to see how much can be customized with the stock ROM. Now I'm pretty sure I've done all I can w/ stock. I've heard Euphoria is pretty good also. Is that true?
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I cant comment on that because I haven't tried it or seen it recommended anywhere. That's not to say it's not good, I'm sure it is.
Best way to find a ROM in my opinion, look at the feature set and find one you like, then read a bit of the early pages of a thread them a few at the end to get a feel about what the users think.
Hopefully soon, Xposed will become stable and a whole world will open up to 5.1 users.
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Im very new to rooting and rom switching so please go easy
I just tried the cyanogen mod 6 for my nexus 1 and i have a few questions about it.
First, i cant really see anything new accept a few things in the cyanogen menu under "settings". Second, i cant see a speed increase either. Stock is actually working faster!
After all the amazing stuff i keep hearing about cyanogen, i just wanna know, what is it about this one (cm6) that im missing??? I just wanna appreciate it like everyone else
I have no clue.. i went back to Geo411m's ROM..
Personally i want a ROM that is more closer to stock as possible, and i really have no need for certain tweaks really. I used the 5.0.8 N1 quite abit before i went over to Froyo. It was allright for me but later on i really like stock based ROM's.
i agree. its seems as though the stock roms work best with froyo (for now anyway) i have been using a rom called "frf_blackbar_v3_signed" and its working great.
Since im new to this stuff (coming from an iphone!) i just figured i was missing out on something right under my eyes! I know its a new rom and it will get better too.
Have faith and give CM some time
They've been working on it for two weeks and its only their first official froyo release(RC1). Im sure things will pick up and get more exciting soon.
I also tested the performance of stock vs cm, and they didn't differ by that much...
Cyanogen has tons of additional features. What I recommended you do is look at his changelog.
He has listed all the new goodies.
Personally I like the kernal which allows overclocking, the music app which has support for flac right out the box, and the renderer which switches the screen color to save you battery.
I will pay attention to Cyanogen ROM for sure..
yea il be keeping an eye on it as well. Can i ask...
What is a kernel?
What is a online kitchen?
why do we have to flash different radios? (do they mean TMO and AT&T radios?)
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I have no clue.. i went back to Geo411m's ROM..
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Exact same here. Went from CM6 to Geo411m's ROM yesterday. Its fast, I know what I have, and battery life is good. Tried LeoFroYo this morning but there was just too much there for what I need. A quick Nandroid restore to Geo411m and that's where I'm staying for now
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yea il be keeping an eye on it as well. Can i ask...
What is a kernel?
What is a online kitchen?
why do we have to flash different radios? (do they mean TMO and AT&T radios?)
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kernel is the guts of your system
online kitchen is where users can create their own roms
new radios add new features that some roms depend on
i don't recommend you messing with any of these things until you do a lot of reading
from what i understand the only way to truly screw up is if i DONT do a nandroid backup. If i do a nandroid backup once when i just rooted and unlocked the bootloader do i still have to do them every time i wanna put on a new rom to fully ensure that i dont brick or badly screw up my phone?
not necesarily, i nandroid before i do any mods to my system just in case i trash it i can boot it right back up just like it was 5 mins prior
If you truly brick your phone, you won't be able to boot into recovery to restore. You do a nandroid once you have your rom setup the way you want, so when you restore you go back to that point. Cyanogen is one of the best, if not the best. The man went through it with Google, just to bless us with his gift, show some RESPECT!!!!! I just flashed his latest & greatest, and I love it. Although im not a fan of white status bar. I like nothing stock, but I flashed black status bar, and pushed black goggle search box, and rm the apps I didn't want, like twitter and gmail. It's a keeper, and will only get better.The more ability to customize the better. That's why I root in the first place. Options, options, options, I love it.
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from what i understand the only way to truly screw up is if i DONT do a nandroid backup. If i do a nandroid backup once when i just rooted and unlocked the bootloader do i still have to do them every time i wanna put on a new rom to fully ensure that i dont brick or badly screw up my phone?
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You don't brick your phone by flashing a new ROM that doesn't contain radio. You don't brick your phone with almost anything that you do, in the worst case - you're left with a phone that doesn't load OS and needs wipe+reflash, and you lose all your settings and data.
But:
You DO brick your phone by flashing the wrong radio / interrupting radio flash before it finishes.
As with the rest of your questions: I suggest you use this forum and Google and read a lot. That would answer your questions.
Also, I was a user of CyanogenMod on 2.1, kept it until LeoFroyo hit 1.2-beta, flashed, liked, and now I'm with Enomther, who has a fast, stable ROM with most of the features Cyanogen has, and it covers everything I want/need. I'll wait for CyanogenMod to integrate Apps2SDExt into framework, and then compare it again.
Hi Guys,
I am a new user in the community as well i am a new owner of a galaxy note.I purchased it 3 days back,I have no knowledge about ANDROiD as i have been using NOKIA since last 7 years.
I have a very few simple questions on which i would like to take your EXPERT advice
1.I have updated the FIRMWARE to ICS now.Now after i have updated it i feel that the battery is draining too fast,Just wanted to know how to fix it.
2.Also i have heard that there is a bug in ICS which can brick the phone.How can i check if that bug is there in my Phone or not?
3.Also wanted to know as to how can i make sure that i get atleast 1.5 days from normal use
Please reply back guys as i am very eager to use this fone but when i see the battery backup i feel very disappointed
Please help
dilpreetpuri said:
Hi Guys,
I am a new user in the community as well i am a new owner of a galaxy note.I purchased it 3 days back,I have no knowledge about ANDROiD as i have been using NOKIA since last 7 years.
I have a very few simple questions on which i would like to take your EXPERT advice
1.I have updated the FIRMWARE to ICS now.Now after i have updated it i feel that the battery is draining too fast,Just wanted to know how to fix it.
2.Also i have heard that there is a bug in ICS which can brick the phone.How can i check if that bug is there in my Phone or not?
3.Also wanted to know as to how can i make sure that i get atleast 1.5 days from normal use
Please reply back guys as i am very eager to use this fone but when i see the battery backup i feel very disappointed
Please help
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If you are running stock ICS(which I'm sure you are) you should assume that you are affected by the bug.
Refrain from doing factory reset using the STOCK/CWM recovery as this will trigger the bug even on STOCK recovery. If you have CWM do not do a NANDROID RESTORE.
If you are rooted i suggest flashing a safe custom kernel, a good one that I can
recommend for solid battery life and balanced performance is Speedmod k3-3 just look for it on the development section.
If you don't like custom kernels and prefer stock just do not do the ones I've mentioned above. If you really need to do a factory reset do it on Gingerbread.
Regarding the battery life, there are many factors to consider. First thing that you need to check if your phone is going into deep sleep. Download cpuspy on play store and report back here so we can help you.
HOLY CRAPPPPPP
Well i have already done the FACTORY RESET 2 times but now its working fine so far
So what should i do now?????????????????????????
Also i would like to know if i can switch back to gingerbread os using Skies software?????????????????
You cant use Kies but Id recommend using ODIN because its faster and safer.
Check out dr.ketans guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997, the man is a genius.
His English isnt great, but essentially
Download ODIN
Download whichever stock rom you want (GB)
Set phone to download mode
Connect to Odin
and flash.
His instructions are a lot more detailed (maybe to much so). But if you do this, the dangerous kernel will be gone and youll be safe.
I know where you are coming from being fairly new to the android scene. Have been in it now for about six months and i would consider myself fairly literate. From what you were saying you updated your phone to the official ics version for your phone. Well... The first thing you need to do my friend is read, read, and read some more. Alot of what i know and have learned has been from researching these forums and the web. Rootgalaxynote.com is pretty good for noobs as it usually has videos showing you how to do things step by step but you should also read some of the faq's about rooting and flashing on this site. If i were in your shoes the first thing that i would do would be the following;
1.) root the device using Dr. Keetans method on this site. If you havent done this it wouuld be a good place to egt started. His method will not trigger your phones counter.
2.) I would revert the phone back to its earlier version which would be gingerbread. You can do this by looking in the stock gingerbread roms section under android development on this site. Our fellow senior members have made it fairly easy to find and after reading you should have a pretty good idea of what to do.
3.) Install a kernel that is safe for ics roms such as franco kernel or abyssnote kernel. This should be fairly easy for you to do just make sure you do tue steps exactly as they describe or else you will mess the phone up.
4.) After that you can pick out a custom ics rom which if you are looking for optimal battery consumption this would be the best way to go about it as official ics rom consumes a substantial amount more battery than the sleak, lean more refined custom roms out there. Just be carefull what you choose as some are full of bugs and features not working.
The main thing here is to cover alot of ground and do your homework. Research is key and you always want to stick with sites like xda and a few others. Xda may not be the most user friendly site out there but it contains a wealth of information and iw where the best of the best come together. Hope this helps my friend.
dilpreetpuri said:
HOLY CRAPPPPPP
Well i have already done the FACTORY RESET 2 times but now its working fine so far
So what should i do now?????????????????????????
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If you can still run it fine, then you're good. But from now on refrain from doing things on the recovery until you're on a safe kernel. Some users reported that they were able to do a factory reset to the nth time before encountering the brick. Meaning you can factory reset 999 times and get away with it and on the 1000th time, brick ur device seriously god knows when it will happen.
Just stay away from CWM or Stock recovery for now if you don't know what you're doing just to be safe.
P.S. ICS is nothing to be scared of if you know what you're doing. Do a little research about the hardbrick bug good place
to start reading about it is this POST
Well i completely agree with you mate and i need to do a lot of homework before i make any change.However since i am very new to the terminology used in ANDROID so would like to ask you if there is any website which can explain me a lil bit about these terminologies so that i know what everbody is talking about or is it that i should simply go through the forums and then join all the bits and pieces to get an idea about the terms used.
Also i would like to ask you that "ODIN" is it like another software which is used to flash the FIRMWARE
dilpreetpuri said:
Well i completely agree with you mate and i need to do a lot of homework before i make any change.However since i am very new to the terminology used in ANDROID so would like to ask you if there is any website which can explain me a lil bit about these terminologies so that i know what everbody is talking about or is it that i should simply go through the forums and then join all the bits and pieces to get an idea about the terms used.
Also i would like to ask you that "ODIN" is it like another software which is used to flash the FIRMWARE
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hmm. website... ? well you can start on this website http://developer.android.com/about/index.html and don't forget our ever loved website.. (XDA-DEV)...
Just by snooping, hanging around, munch and digest all you can and soon you'll be able to pick some neat tricks in learning android terminologies in no time at all.
ODIN (PC /Mobile) is a very neat indispensable tool for custom room makers and flashers... With this tool you can always at your disposal.. whilst jump from one custom rom to another, which ever your choice or liking. Changing ROMS is akin to Flashing.. so if you flash a ROM, you are changing your current ROM to whatever ROM you would like to have it installed on your phone.
Every custom ROM has its highlights and lowlights... pick what suits you best and your good to go after. Flashing ROMs with Gingerbread support (if your still in stock GB), assures you no brick at all... Now on the other hand, if your already in ICS(Stock) and would like to flash custom roms with iCS support.. then I do warn you to be wary of it. A lot of people have fallen and have been bitten by the hardbrick bug... Just always be extra careful in doing it.
Cheers bud!
First of all i really thank everyone for their help considering that i am a noob when it comes to android
2ndly i am alos getting an impression that Gingerbread is a better bet as of now till there is a permanent fix for the Bug and secondly i am getting an impression that GB was much better when it comes to the battery backup
Correct me if i am wrong
Alos a clarification
Stock rom means the firmware from SAMSUNG?Am i correct?
Custom rom means that it has been tweaked to avoid any known issues?Am i correct?
Also if i change from custom to stock riom does that hamper the warrenty or not?
dilpreetpuri said:
First of all i really thank everyone for their help considering that i am a noob when it comes to android
2ndly i am alos getting an impression that Gingerbread is a better bet as of now till there is a permanent fix for the Bug and secondly i am getting an impression that GB was much better when it comes to the battery backup
Correct me if i am wrong
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Right
dilpreetpuri said:
Alos a clarification
Stock rom means the firmware from SAMSUNG?Am i correct?
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Correct
dilpreetpuri said:
Custom rom means that it has been tweaked to avoid any known issues?Am i correct?
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Also if i change from custom to stock riom does that hamper the warrenty or not?
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Yes! Flash it back to Stock Rom and unroot it. You should be good to go.
You should not worry too much about the bricking bug. If you stay on stock rom and your phone gets bricked you are covered by the warranty. It is not your fault that the phone has that problem.
I also recommend that you ask some friend that has experience to help if you want to flash/root/install custom rom, given that you have little experience with android.
i have just checked in and found this link "Root Your Phone"
This means he is going back to a particular version
Right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV3PLcYbAnU
Dilpreet,
U remind me of myself 2 years back when I was equally inquisitive, enthusiastic but lacking knowledge...
First of all... There is no problem whatsoever if you remain on stock(yes u r right official) Samsung ics provided you don't do factory reset ahead.
2. U need to familiarize yourself with android terminology such as rooting, flashing custom (yes again u r right tweaked) roms, recovery mode, download mode, full wipe, Odin, directly/not directly root able roms etc etc... I am not trying to psyche you out but just giving a word of caution. Unless you know all of these terminologies well (you will get lot of reading on xda on each of this) , PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT ANYTHING. By anything I mean even reverting to GB. U must have updated from GB to iCS OTA (over the air) that is on device itself but this rversal won't be easy unless u fully know what u r doing... so first familiarize urself and then get into it.
3. As regards battery life on stock ics , you can use app named juice defender (available on play store) it has lot of options for battery saving. Besides check if GPS and wifi options are not switched on when not in use... some apps are battery hoggers. Check battery usage under settings ---- battery to see how its doing.
4. There are few safe ics kernels available like what has been told u before by some people in this thread... I would strongly suggest Cm9 or any cm9 based rom like asylum (btw Cm stands for cyanogenmod ) which are smooth and safe & yes extremely battery efficient too.
5. Lastly, I will pm you one apk file which will help you know whether your phone has a brick bug or not... do uninstall that application after you check it. For installing any external app (apk file) you need to go in settings ---- security --- and tick unknown sources
PS: Do click Thanks if I have been of any help mate
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app
Nopes... rooting is gaining administrator rights over your phone. In simple terms , being able to access system folder on your phone... Beware, rooting voids warranty.. Please refer Dr. ketan's guide on rooting note on other thread... That's best
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". Lastly, I will pm you one apk file which will help you know whether your phone has a brick bug or not... do uninstall that application after you check it. For installing any external app (apk file) you need to go in settings ---- security --- and tick unknown sources:"
Thanks for the info mate
And i have already checked the article which helps you to check if your handset is affected or not and what i could understand was that we just have to install the application and then run the application and will generate a result
But what after that?
I mean how ill i come to know which files to look for which will tell us if its affected or not
I am not aware as to which all files to look for
Please help me
It will throw up the result after checking.. u need not look for anything... it will tell u if ur phone is prone to brick bug.. check it urself. Have sent u the apk file already through pm (personal message).
This will just tell you if you are really prone to this bug, nothing beyond that. If you are then you have three options:
1. Stick to stock ics rom but don't do full wipe again
2. Revert to stock GB through Odin
3. Switch to safe ics kernel (and enjoy lovely ics experience without boring Samsung touchwiz)
For the last you will have to root your phone for remaining, rooting not required.
PS: Please press Thanks button if I have helped you anyway
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Device: SGN N7000
ROM: Asylum V.15
dilpreetpuri said:
HOLY CRAPPPPPP
Well i have already done the FACTORY RESET 2 times but now its working fine so far
So what should i do now?????????????????????????
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What ROM are you on exactly??I've heard this brick issue is solved in the ROMS released last month.With CF-root 5.6 it's even safe to wipe.But no one dares to try apparently so it needs confirmation.
I am on 4.0.3
Any help guys??????????????????????
dilpreetpuri said:
HOLY CRAPPPPPP
Well i have already done the FACTORY RESET 2 times but now its working fine so far
So what should i do now?????????????????????????
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Lol...I know just how you feel, searching for answers!
i have come from a htc hd2 so i like to change roms alot.
what should i do with the galaxy note ?
i would like ICS so what are the steps ?
any help please
Have a good search round this forum and make sure you understand clearly how everything works before you decide to start flashing, I came from the HTC Desire and the Galaxy Note is a whole different ball game. Enjoy you new Galaxy Note
is the official ics update any good ?
what does rooting do ?
I personally didn't like the official ICS update, that is when I decided to flash a custom ROM.
Rooting gives you more control over your phone, lets you install apps like "Titanium Backup" that require root permissions to run.
i have the la6 kernel
im lost
watercooled223 said:
is the official ics update any good ?
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Apparently this really depends on your location. For example the one Samsung released here (France, 4 months after being announced, too) was so broken it bricked a number of terminals and was subsequently withdrawn. With no word of when a fix will come.
Apparently other areas had working systems. One would think it would just be a matter of strings to translate and a few apps to package, so it's all very puzzling to someone who isn't familiar with Android (I've been intimately familiar with Linux for more than 20 years, and Unix before that, but I still don't get it).
And then, as you'll see by browsing the forums, many people seem to have issues with ICS. Issues that (IMO) just don't seem to make much sense in a system that would have been tested for a couple days by an intern somewhere...
OTOH, many people apparently have no issues.
So as with everything on the network, I suppose YMMV, take it with a grain of salt, yada yada... void where applicable.
See if anything is reported about your proposed (if any) update. Then decide if it's worth it (maybe it is).
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what does rooting do ?
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Same as on any other terminal ? Lets you access functions that are typically "off limits". Among the most useful ones, you can now read/write anywhere. Which means you can allow/deny anything for any application. And notably block all those silly annoying bundled apps so they won't want to update any more, or, if you like, even start (a process known as freezing).
Have a look at the videos in my signature once..
For Rom official one is good but custom ones are great..
All roms are unique in their own way...the ones that stand out as totally awesome are Paranoid Android and TMT Hybrid IMUI...
Its your choice...
thanks guys
does the la6 kernel complicate things ?
watercooled223 said:
thanks guys
does the la6 kernel complicate things ?
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Yes.... Speedmod is adviced for stock ics...
its still on gingerbread at the moment
ok im now rooted and installed cwm and done a backup of the stock rom.
now i want to install the paranoid android ics rom.
im coming from the stock gingerbread GB rom
do i need to wipe first ?
all done
now rooted and running paranoid android
thanks guys for the links and the help
now that i have paranoidandroid installed am i able to try any other custom roms ?
watercooled223 said:
now that i have paranoidandroid installed am i able to try any other custom roms ?
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yes, just be careful, follow instruction to the dot, and don't take any shortcuts,
also, it's good to have tb backup, as additional security precaution
p107r0 said:
yes, just be careful, follow instruction to the dot, and don't take any shortcuts,
also, it's good to have tb backup, as additional security precaution
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does this mean that i have one of the safe kernels installed ?
sorry whats tb backup ?
i have made a backup of the original rom if thats what you mean ?
watercooled223 said:
does this mean that i have one of the safe kernels installed ?
sorry whats tb backup ?
i have made a backup of the original rom if thats what you mean ?
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1. probably, but make sure in paranoid thread,
2. I assume you have done cwm backup, which will be rather useless when switching ROMs, having tb (i.e.Titanium Backup) backup you can generally restore your apps and data between roms (except for the system ones)
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yes all backed up with cwm and tb.
watercooled223 said:
its still on gingerbread at the moment
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And that was the right thing to have for the time being, too bad you hurried on to ICS. In my opinion, when you have a new phone, you have to know it, enjoy it, love it ( ? ), installed a couple of hundred apps, and then, after being more than familiar whith it, it would be time to upgrade it, tweak it, etc., so the change could be apreciatte. It's like eating always the desert at first, withouth eating the soup and the salad.
As for rooting, if you had to ask, you probably did't need to root, but since that's already done, I'll give you a hint. There is one VERY interesting thing about rooting which anyone would find usefull. The posibility of using a Firewall. In this way, you could not only block those annoying ads (and save a little battery since the ads have to download from Internet). You can also protect your device from troyan / spy applications, which are increasingly expanding in android. For example, a simple sound board app, or a screen saver, ¿why should it use your internet connection? ¿To what ends?
Enjoy the Note, it's a hell of a phone.
Ok I have been reading a couple of forums and some people say you can out a custom recovery on the active and some say you would only brick your phone trying. I have it rooted, I would like to try a custom ROM but I am used to the galaxy s3 and the htc one m8 in the way of custom Roms which are easy to do.
brianisawesome1 said:
Ok I have been reading a couple of forums and some people say you can out a custom recovery on the active and some say you would only brick your phone trying. I have it rooted, I would like to try a custom ROM but I am used to the galaxy s3 and the htc one m8 in the way of custom Roms which are easy to do.
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depending on which active you have if you have the international version with the unlocked bootloader your good with custom roms but if you have the at&t model I537 that had a locked bootloader you can not run custom roms on it.
brianisawesome1 said:
Ok I have been reading a couple of forums and some people say you can out a custom recovery on the active and some say you would only brick your phone trying. I have it rooted, I would like to try a custom ROM but I am used to the galaxy s3 and the htc one m8 in the way of custom Roms which are easy to do.
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but if you have the at&t model I537 that had a locked bootloader you can not run custom roms on it.
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I'd like to clarify a bit. Yes the AT&T model has a locked bootloader and yes this restricts what you can do on the phone, but that doesn't mean you can't have custom roms on this phone. You can't have a true custom recovery BUT there is something you can install called Safestrap that gives you virtually all the functionality of a custom recovery (plus it's based directly off TWRP so it looks and feels like a recovery). As far as roms, well, you can't install cyanogenmod or anything AOSP. Any rom you flash needs to have a stock kernel and be stock-based. There are very few roms written specifically for the i537, BUT you can install certain S4 roms using this patch to make them compatible.
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I'd like to clarify a bit. Yes the AT&T model has a locked bootloader and yes this restricts what you can do on the phone, but that doesn't mean you can't have custom roms on this phone. You can't have a true custom recovery BUT there is something you can install called Safestrap that gives you virtually all the functionality of a custom recovery (plus it's based directly off TWRP so it looks and feels like a recovery). As far as roms, well, you can't install cyanogenmod or anything AOSP. Any rom you flash needs to have a stock kernel and be stock-based. There are very few roms written specifically for the i537, BUT you can install certain S4 roms using this patch to make them compatible.
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What are the risks of using said safestrap?
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brianisawesome1 said:
What are the risks of using said safestrap?
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Not much really. You can make nandroid backups so if you do mess up you can always restore. There haven't been any bugs with the last build and as long as you're using it to flash software meant for the i537 (or S4 roms with the masterpatch) it's perfectly safe. Honestly the only danger I can really envisage-and this would apply to any custom recovery-sometimes things take a long time to flash, you just have to make sure to have at least 70% battery when doing anything in recovery, having your battery die mid-flash would probably be bad. Sorry for my rambling answer, the main point is it is just as safe as a custom recovery on another device.
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Not much really. You can make nandroid backups so if you do mess up you can always restore. There haven't been any bugs with the last build and as long as you're using it to flash software meant for the i537 (or S4 roms with the masterpatch) it's perfectly safe. Honestly the only danger I can really envisage-and this would apply to any custom recovery-sometimes things take a long time to flash, you just have to make sure to have at least 70% battery when doing anything in recovery, having your battery die mid-flash would probably be bad. Sorry for my rambling answer, the main point is it is just as safe as a custom recovery on another device.
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Ok so I have safestrap. What the updated list of Roms? What do I have to do after or before flashing a rom? I wanna make sure I don't brick my device lol and also why is my backup going to be 8gb????
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As much as this might be a really broad topic, I'm new to flashing and trying out new ROM's so some suggestions would be nice for the Nexus 6? Just looking for some honest alternatives to Stock 5.1, wanting to stay on Stock Kernel if possible.
Stock kernel is pretty much the worst of them. Or should i say, least improved. If you're not interested in trying custom kernels just yet, use the one that comes with the custom ROMs you try
As for recommendations, what's everyone likes is different. Look in the development forums, read the features and try them.
wright_ac said:
As much as this might be a really broad topic, I'm new to flashing and trying out new ROM's so some suggestions would be nice for the Nexus 6? Just looking for some honest alternatives to Stock 5.1, wanting to stay on Stock Kernel if possible.
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What @rootSU said and;
As long as you have a custom recovery and do a nandroid backup of your stable stock build, just try as many roms as you feel like. You don't like it, just restore your backup and bam, 5 minutes your back to exactly where you were. You can even use multirom and boot into different roms. Grab one of the roms from the N6 dev forum and give it a spin, you will never go back! And for what its worth, Benzo is dang good.
wright_ac said:
As much as this might be a really broad topic, I'm new to flashing and trying out new ROM's so some suggestions would be nice for the Nexus 6? Just looking for some honest alternatives to Stock 5.1, wanting to stay on Stock Kernel if possible.
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rootSU and jackpollard have already covered the basics. However, I will make a recommendation because I know that's what you want - if you want to try a ROM that comes with a very nice kernel so you will not need to flash a custom kernel, I recommend trying Dirty Unicorns. It is my personal favorite ROM to run with the inline kernel (XDA speak for the kernel that comes with the ROM). As these guys said, when you flash a ROM, it generally comes with a kernel. When you hear people on a particular ROM talk about "stock kernel", they really mean the inline kernel that comes with the ROM, not the stock MTV whatever Google kernel. To get technical, I'm not using "inline kernel" correctly either - that actually means a kernel that's built with a ROM, but I'm not even gonna get into all that. I would recommend Dirty Unicorns if you wish to find a ROM that comes with a stock kernel installed that is absolutely awesome. If you prefer a lighter ROM with a more stock-like kernel, I recommend Chroma. Both are excellent ROMs with great kernels that come with them, and both provide kernels that are easy for a new user to learn to configure. It just depends on what you are looking for - you may end up hating both of those ROMs. Also, any ROM that uses leanKernel as its kernel is a good place to start - find one that has a feature list you like, leanKernel is the best starter kernel there is in my opinion. The best thing about it is it is built well enough to still suit the needs of way more advanced users while not intimidating even the newest of noobs in the slighest. So, play around and find what suits you, bu those are a few recommendations to get you started based on the kernels that come with the ROMs and what you are asking for. I hope it helps you out.
Took the plunge and installed the latest Chroma ROM build, safe to say I'm happier with it than stock!
wright_ac said:
As much as this might be a really broad topic, I'm new to flashing and trying out new ROM's so some suggestions would be nice for the Nexus 6? Just looking for some honest alternatives to Stock 5.1, wanting to stay on Stock Kernel if possible.
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Heres a fun note. Most ROMs have yet to make major kernel changes, this means that, as of now, CM, PA, Omni, and most if not all AOSP ROMs boot on the stock kernel.