Hey everyone, I just grabbed a Spain variant of the Moto X. The model number is XT1058. I did unlock the bootloader. However, i didn't flash a custom recovery or root the phone yet because I have a couple questions before I go any further..
1. Since the bootloader is unlocked now, will I still receive updates from Motorola/Google or would I have to re-lock the bootloader?
2. If I do flash a custom recovery and root, what roms can i flash...T-Mobile..ATT ..International..etc?
3. I am using the phone with ATT right now...I noticed the data icon goes from H, H+ to 4G....does 4G mean I am picking up ATT LTE?
4. If i wanted to re-lock the bootloader, am I able to with the fastboot command to re-lock it?
Thanks eveyone
plmiller0905 said:
Hey everyone, I just grabbed a Spain variant of the Moto X. The model number is XT1058. I did unlock the bootloader. However, i didn't flash a custom recovery or root the phone yet because I have a couple questions before I go any further..
1. Since the bootloader is unlocked now, will I still receive updates from Motorola/Google or would I have to re-lock the bootloader?
2. If I do flash a custom recovery and root, what roms can i flash...T-Mobile..ATT ..International..etc?
3. I am using the phone with ATT right now...I noticed the data icon goes from H, H+ to 4G....does 4G mean I am picking up ATT LTE?
4. If i wanted to re-lock the bootloader, am I able to with the fastboot command to re-lock it?
Thanks eveyone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Relocking your boot loader will not have any benefits, your warranty is void as soon as you unlock a retail version
You absolutely will receive the ota but you need to maintain the stock rom 100% as it was out of the box, flashing twrp recovery and rooting can easily be done but you will not be able to flash the ota successfully as it checks and requires stock recovery and a unroofed device, that being said you can reflash the stock recovery and unroot and then flash the ota.
Then all you would need to do is reflash twrp and superuser
Sent on my Moto X
Related
Okay, got a strange question here. I plan on going from the N5 to the unlocked GSM MotoMaker Moto X version. All I want is root with stock recovery (don't really care for a custom recovery, plus I'd like to still receive OTAs). Can I unlock the Moto X bootloader, load TWRP recovery (instead of flash), and then install SuperSU? Or do I *have* to flash TWRP to achieve root?
correct me if im wrong, but I think you can "unlock the Moto X bootloader, load TWRP recovery (instead of flash), and then install SuperSU".
or
use one of the methods in the original android development section to achieve root.
c19932 said:
correct me if im wrong, but I think you can "unlock the Moto X bootloader, load TWRP recovery (instead of flash), and then install SuperSU".
or
use one of the methods in the original android development section to achieve root.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, I've looked at those threads. However, in 4.4, a backdoor needs to be introduced in order to maintain root. I'd rather not have to do that and I don't mind unlocking bootloaders. This will be my first, non-Nexus device in awhile, so I just wanted to make sure I can just unlocked the bootloader, load a custom recovery, flash SuperSU and then just have root.
TheCuban said:
Yes, I've looked at those threads. However, in 4.4, a backdoor needs to be introduced in order to maintain root. I'd rather not have to do that and I don't mind unlocking bootloaders. This will be my first, non-Nexus device in awhile, so I just wanted to make sure I can just unlocked the bootloader, load a custom recovery, flash SuperSU and then just have root.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just unlock your boot loader, flash twrp recovery and finally flash supersu and you're good to go. Ota's can not be accepted and flashed with root or custom recovery on the moto
Sent on my Moto X
flashallthetime said:
Just unlock your boot loader, flash twrp recovery and finally flash supersu and you're good to go. Ota's can not be accepted and flashed with root or custom recovery on the moto
Sent on my Moto X
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks! That's what I thought! I didn't know that root removed the ability to accept OTAs?
TheCuban said:
Thanks! That's what I thought! I didn't know that root removed the ability to accept OTAs?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
On the moto yes, nexus devices are a different beast
Sent on my Moto X
Hi I am planing my first root and I am honestly a little confused. I am on TMobile with 4.4 KitKat (Moto X).
I understand how to unlock the Bootloader and that I need to install TWRP before I can activate SU.
I am just not sure about the bugs (if any) with TWRP and what version to use.
The reason for my concern is on the TWRP website the Moto X is not listed as a supported device.
Is this video Tutorial still valid - is this how to do it with 4.4 KitKat?
And is this the latest version that works (what are the known bugs)?
Hello, I am returning my Moto X back to motorola and had a few questions. I have the Tmo US xt1053 model that i've updated to 4.4.2, unlocked the bootloader, flashed twrp and rooted. I want to return it to stock but there are no factory firmware images for the Tmobile US 4.4.2 and I would like to avoid bricking my phone. I was going to return to the stock recovery and then just factory reset it from the privacy menu but I am afraid to flash the stock recovery for fear of bricking it.
So my question is, can I flash the stock recovery found here: http://www.addictivetips.com/android/root-moto-x-install-cwm-recovery-complete-guide/ ? I can't seem to figure out if there are different recovery versions like there is bootloader versions and if I don't flash the correct one I'll brick something.
I know the bootloader was updated with 4.4.2 so I can't return to 4.4 but if I flash that stock recovery can I just use the factory restore option in the stock rom to remove all my data and root? I know the bootloader will still be unlocked but I highly doubt they will notice that since they never seem to check the bootloader unless its obviously unlocked.
Are you slow???
Turn your phone off then turn it back on and explain to me how you expect them not to notice your bootloader is unlocked?
Even if you used a different boot image to hide the warning, it shows that you're bootloader is unlocked in fastboot. I wouldn't bother hoping they don't notice, I'd hope they don't care.
MotoX Developer Edition went from German 4.4.2 to Great Britain 4.4.2 to T-Mobile 4.4.2 no problem. Fastboot FTW!
Did you read at all when you unlocked the bootloeader? Your warranty is voided. They do not need to have physical contact with your phone at all to determine it's voided.
Just for xt1053, you can downgrade firmware from 4.4.2 to 4.4, but just for this specific case, it doesn't mean it won't brick for other version.
SymbioticGenius said:
Are you slow???
Turn your phone off then turn it back on and explain to me how you expect them not to notice your bootloader is unlocked?
Even if you used a different boot image to hide the warning, it shows that you're bootloader is unlocked in fastboot. I wouldn't bother hoping they don't notice, I'd hope they don't care.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Fastboot OEM lock
Problem solved?
eksasol said:
Just for xt1053, you can downgrade firmware from 4.4.2 to 4.4, but just for this specific case, it doesn't mean it won't brick for other version.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hope you didn't flash the bootloader for 4.4, if you did... enjoy your new paperweight
mastarifla said:
Fastboot OEM lock
Problem solved
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Relocking the bootloader and never locking the bootloader are completely different things. Good luck with that.
MotoX Developer Edition went from German 4.4.2 to Great Britain 4.4.2 to T-Mobile 4.4.2 no problem. Fastboot FTW!
SymbioticGenius said:
Relocking the bootloader and never locking the bootloader are completely different things. Good luck with that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Turns out Motorola uses the QFuse system. While the bootloader will look perfectly "stock"/locked to you, Moto will be able to see that the secure boot fuse was blown, thus, re-locking your bootloader is effectively pointless.
mastarifla said:
Fastboot OEM lock
Problem solved?
I hope you didn't flash the bootloader for 4.4, if you did... enjoy your new paperweight
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It doesn't let you downgrade it regardless, so doesn't matter.
Also fastboot oem lock only work for developer version, and you have to go through the "fastboot oem lock begin" process: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
I don't think you can relock the regular version.
eksasol said:
It doesn't let you downgrade it regardless, so doesn't matter.
Also fastboot oem lock only work for developer version, and you have to go through the "fastboot oem lock begin" process: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
I don't think you can relock the regular version.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
...Unless if you manually flash the files, in which the problem occurs
T-Mobile version is the same as the Dev, maybe the AT&T version is different
So I've just ordered an unlocked black 16gb Moto X from Amazon and would like to update it to 4.4.2 and get root access. I know there are a few guides and threads around but am confused as to which variant I'll have as all the guides seem to be carrier specific, and whether my bootloader will be unlocked or not...
Also, I think it'll come with 4.2.2. Should I go ahead and do the 4.4.2 OTA update, or will that make rooting more difficult? Can I root first then update?
I'm not entirely clueless about this kind of thing, having successfully rooted and installed custom firmware on previous android phones but this seems a little more complicated.
Any help much appreciated. Thanks!
If it's an unlockable bootloader, just take all the updates, unlock the bootloader, mfastboot your choice of recovery, boot immediately to recovery and root. Done.
Since its not a developer edition, unlocking your bootloader will void your warranty. You can request the unlock code directly from Moto's web site for free.
To root after your bootloader is unlocked, just follow this -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738
Once you get the code from Moto, you can unlock the bootloader at any point, no matter what rom is on your phone. But you might as well either take the OTA update or flash the 4.4.2 SBF to get to 4.4.2 on your phone, then unlock the bootloader and root. (unlocking the bootloader does factory reset the phone, and erases data and apps, so don't go nuts customizing the phone or installing apps until after you unlock the bootloader).
Thanks for the replies.
How do I find out if my bootloader is unlockable? The Motorola site says that Sprint, USC and TMO phones can be done but nothing about factory unlocked ones...
What if the boitloader can't be unlocked?
seebasso said:
Thanks for the replies.
How do I find out if my bootloader is unlockable? The Motorola site says that Sprint, USC and TMO phones can be done but nothing about factory unlocked ones...
What if the boitloader can't be unlocked?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The SIM unlocked version can be bootloader unlocked.
Follow the instructions and steps to request the code at -> https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth once you hit the final submit button, your warranty will be voided.
Awesome thanks, not as complicated as I had anticipated then...
And once I'm on 4.4.2 and rooted, I won't be able to Do any future OTA updates without losing root right?
seebasso said:
Awesome thanks, not as complicated as I had anticipated then...
And once I'm on 4.4.2 and rooted, I won't be able to Do any future OTA updates without losing root right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wrong. Rather than my re-typing... see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-OTA.html
My gf has HTC One with latest stock T-Mobile US ROM, unlocked bootloader, is rooted, and has TWRP. T-Mobile is about to release an OTA (source), and I am wondering how to go about installing it. AFAIK, stock recovery is required, AND the bootloader needs to be locked again. If this is the case, re-rooting will require unlocking the bootloader and thus doing factory reset? Is there a simpler way to do this?
Stock recovery and preinstalled apps needed
Bootloader locked not needed
There are many posts written about this read them first
c00ller said:
My gf has HTC One with latest stock T-Mobile US ROM, unlocked bootloader, is rooted, and has TWRP. T-Mobile is about to release an OTA (source), and I am wondering how to go about installing it. AFAIK, stock recovery is required, AND the bootloader needs to be locked again. If this is the case, re-rooting will require unlocking the bootloader and thus doing factory reset? Is there a simpler way to do this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
relock your bootloader
fastboot oem lock
and run this RUU
http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-one-t-mobile/news/
instructions / Download are at the bottom of the page
Everything on the Phone will be lost ..Backup to your PC and google first !
yatindroid said:
Stock recovery and preinstalled apps needed
Bootloader locked not needed
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
FYI I have actually tried running an RUU on unlocked bootloader with stock recovery, kept failing until I relocked the bootloader...
I have a rooted moto x with a unlocked bootloader. Im using cyanogem atm, but i would like to go to stock again.
I plan on installing a firmware, and i have some questions.
1- Will i lose root?
2- Do i need to unlock the bootloader again?
Thanks in advance
1. Yes but losing root is never a concern with an unlocked bootloader
2. No. Once it's unlocked, it's unlocked until you relock it.
3. Make sure you flash the same firmware or newer.