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I just received a Developer Edition 64GB HTC One today. I noticed with the developer edition the signal strength only show 1 or 2 bar on tombile lte network ,and signal moving between HSPA+ and LTE frequently. i also have sony xperia zl c6506 which show full bar of signal strength in same place,and stay on lte most of time.
Hey I live in Jacksonville FL and I cant get LTE or HSPS+ all I get is EDGE on my brothers sim card, I have the HTC 64GB Developer Edition how are you getting it, which Market are you on. Can you go to your setting- about-network and tell me what you see under Mobile Network Type
Thanks
rooster_yang said:
I just received a Developer Edition 64GB HTC One today. I noticed with the developer edition the signal strength only show 1 or 2 bar on tombile lte network ,and signal moving between HSPA+ and LTE frequently. i also have sony xperia zl c6506 which show full bar of signal strength in same place,and stay on lte most of time.
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ahernandez4110 said:
Hey I live in Jacksonville FL and I cant get LTE or HSPS+ all I get is EDGE on my brothers sim card, I have the HTC 64GB Developer Edition how are you getting it, which Market are you on. Can you go to your setting- about-network and tell me what you see under Mobile Network Type
Thanks
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if u area dont have lte ready or in 1900MHz reframed , you will only get edge speed on your developer edition htc one
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if u area dont have lte ready or in 1900MHz reframed , you will only get edge speed on your developer edition htc one
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Well, I live in an area with LTE and it's refarmed and all I get is edge so I'd like to know what it says too. My suspicion is that my plan prevents it. I picked up this data plan back when the G1 came out and haven't changed it since.
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ahernandez4110 said:
Hey I live in Jacksonville FL and I cant get LTE or HSPS+ all I get is EDGE on my brothers sim card, I have the HTC 64GB Developer Edition how are you getting it, which Market are you on. Can you go to your setting- about-network and tell me what you see under Mobile Network Type
Thanks
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try add new APN Fast.T-mobile.com and make sure u switch network mode to gsm/wcdma/lte under mobile network setting
I never would've thought it but a couple of blocks around my house only get EDGE speeds. This morning on my way to work I got 3G, HSPA <E.
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Typical T-Mobile signature of spotty coverage. Unfortunately, I'm on T-Mobile too
Rooster I see you already posted there, but for everyone else's benefit let me just point out there's another thread (not specific to T-Mobie) on this topic.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245952
There were a couple relevant ideas brought up in that thread:
1) The developer edition radio hardware and software generally detects the same strength signal as carrier branded phones, but the stock HTC developer edition ROM is very conservative in how many "bars" of signal it displays in the UI. By contrast, carriers tend to like to show a lot of bars in their version of a ROM because it makes their customers feel good. People used to this behavior may be disappointed when they see "fewer bars".
2) The developer edition is also very honest about accurately reporting when the phone is switching between LTE and HSPA etc. Carrier branded phones tend to just say "LTE" all the time to keep people happy. So anyone seeing the actual switching activity for the first time assumes their phone must have a problem keeping the LTE signal locked.
A similar phenomenon happens a lot when people go from carrier-based ROMs to Cyanogenmod. Same signal, just different a display in the UI. Yet new users tend to complain CM has worse radio performance.
It's a legitimate question as to whether you are getting good T-Mobile service, just be aware the developer edition is going to be 'brutally honest' in showing you what is out there.
when I had the Samsung galaxy s3 i747 att model, I put a tmobile rom, and switched mobile mode to wcdma and I would get 4g...
How is it possible to get LTE on Tmobile's network with the Developer Edition HTC One? I thought Tmobile's LTE network is on 1700, which isn't a frequency the One has.
No?
I'm really confused by all this.
Does the Developer Edition support HSPA+ 42 MB/s and LTE? And will it ever?
Or does it only support HSPA 21 MB/s now and forever, as I was led to believe?
Please help me clarify.
rooster_yang said:
I just received a Developer Edition 64GB HTC One today. I noticed with the developer edition the signal strength only show 1 or 2 bar on tombile lte network ,and signal moving between HSPA+ and LTE frequently. i also have sony xperia zl c6506 which show full bar of signal strength in same place,and stay on lte most of time.
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Where are you living? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40797325#post40797325
onthecouchagain said:
How is it possible to get LTE on Tmobile's network with the Developer Edition HTC One? I thought Tmobile's LTE network is on 1700, which isn't a frequency the One has.
No?
I'm really confused by all this.
Does the Developer Edition support HSPA+ 42 MB/s and LTE? And will it ever?
Or does it only support HSPA 21 MB/s now and forever, as I was led to believe?
Please help me clarify.
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Developer Edition HTC One support AWS. AWS is Tmobil LTE 1700/2100 bands
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Developer Edition HTC One support AWS. AWS is Tmobil LTE 1700/2100 ]
I have the developer edition and have a Tmobile sim in Houston and am able to get LTE. I have noticed that I have a tendency to drop down into edge/3G speeds when I'm inside my apartment when before with my nexus 4 I would hang onto HSPA+.
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Developer Edition HTC One support AWS. AWS is Tmobil LTE 1700/2100 bands
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Is there something that one can download for the HTC ONE Developers Edition to improve LTE signal on t-Mobile? I get 1 bar on mine and when I go into a T-Mobile shop and see the HTC ONE at their shop it gets full bars.
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Is there something that one can download for the HTC ONE Developers Edition to improve LTE signal on t-Mobile? I get 1 bar on mine and when I go into a T-Mobile shop and see the HTC ONE at their shop it gets full bars.
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Download one of the free signal monitoring programs. It is likely that TMO simply modifies the signal level to indicate more bars. You may well be picking up the same signal with the Dev edition, it just looks less.
If I read correctly sprint is switching from the 1900 band to the 800 band, how will this effect the ONE and the EVO LTE.
They are scheduled to start shutting down June 30th.
Will we not get lte no more
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If I read correctly sprint is switching from the 1900 band to the 800 band, how will this effect the ONE and the EVO LTE.
They are scheduled to start shutting down June 30th.
Will we not get lte no more
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Here's the information on the frequencies:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz
T-Mobile: 850/AWS/1900/2100 MHz
Sprint: 700/AWS MHz
CDMA
Sprint: 800/1900 MHz (BC0/BC1/BC10)
LTE
AT&T: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz
T-Mobile: 700/AWS MHz
Sprint: 1900 MHz
josh030181 said:
If I read correctly sprint is switching from the 1900 band to the 800 band, how will this effect the ONE and the EVO LTE.
They are scheduled to start shutting down June 30th.
Will we not get lte no more
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I don't think it will affect either phone at all. The iDEN network is for Nextel phones. The HTC One and Evo LTE use Sprint's CDMA network. The iDEN network and Sprint's CDMA network are completely separate. Shutting down the iDEN network simply means Nextel phones will no longer work. The shutdown will in no way prevent your One or Evo LTE from using LTE.
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If I read correctly sprint is switching from the 1900 band to the 800 band, how will this effect the ONE and the EVO LTE.
They are scheduled to start shutting down June 30th.
Will we not get lte no more
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From what I've read since they announced Network Vision is that they will continue to build out LTE over the current 1900 mhz frequencies and convert the iDen Nextel towers to LTE to supplement the 1900 towers. I hope they continue building out both.
The higher frequencies (1900) are better at long distances, but poor at penetrating buildings. The lower Frequencies (800) are the opposite. It would make sense they build out both, except that the HTC One and other currently released phones don't support LTE on the 800 mhz towers. We would have to upgrade again when they release a phone supporting that to gain that support.
dumb question here, but is 4G LTE the same as just 4G?
does this phone get LTE? I see other phones that display LTE next to the signal bar, but this one doesn't
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dumb question here, but is 4G LTE the same as just 4G?
does this phone get LTE? I see other phones that display LTE next to the signal bar, but this one doesn't
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They are not the same.
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dumb question here, but is 4G LTE the same as just 4G?
does this phone get LTE? I see other phones that display LTE next to the signal bar, but this one doesn't
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When you see 4G in the sprint HTC one you are getting LTE its just the symbol sprint went with .. Verizon shows a 4GLTE symbol .. if you have an old galaxy s2 or evo 4G (OGEvO) that is running Wimax and is not LTE ...
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When you see 4G in the sprint HTC one you are getting LTE its just the symbol sprint went with .. Verizon shows a 4GLTE symbol .. if you have an old galaxy s2 or evo 4G (OGEvO) that is running Wimax and is not LTE ...
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thanks! exactly what I was looking for
So are our devices future proof for when they start building LTE on the 800 band. As in does anyone know if our Ones are capable of utilizing the 800 band when they switch it over to LTE
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So are our devices future proof for when they start building LTE on the 800 band. As in does anyone know if our Ones are capable of utilizing the 800 band when they switch it over to LTE
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Yes to 3g on 800 but no to LTE on 800. They haven't release a phone capable of 4G on 800 yet.
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If I'm correct
Sprint is going to use both 800 and 1900 for their 4G and will add 2500 Mhz later on.
"Sprint's current LTE band near 1900 MHz (band 25), the phones will also support LTE near 800 MHz and 2,500 MHz. The 800 band (also known as ESMR, BC10, and band 27) hosts iDEN - which is being phased out - and CDMA. Sprint has previously announced plans to deploy LTE technology in that band in early 2014. "
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=11771
Are our phones future proof? That's debatable. It all depends on which area you live in and their 4G deployment speed.
They will be able to use Sprint's crappy 3G speeds, which by that point should be less congested.
Lucky for you guys that actually get LTE. Here in AR I'm still stuck on their crappy 3g. I read their LTE gets around 10+ down where tested. That sounds freaking good enough to me at this point.
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Yes to 3g on 800 but no to LTE on 800. They haven't release a phone capable of 4G on 800 yet.
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Incorrect I'm afraid. Sprint will not be deploying 3G on the 800MHz band. Only CDMA voice and data and LTE, but no EV-DO (3G).
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From what I've read since they announced Network Vision is that they will continue to build out LTE over the current 1900 mhz frequencies and convert the iDen Nextel towers to LTE to supplement the 1900 towers. I hope they continue building out both.
The higher frequencies (1900) are better at long distances, but poor at penetrating buildings. The lower Frequencies (800) are the opposite. It would make sense they build out both, except that the HTC One and other currently released phones don't support LTE on the 800 mhz towers. We would have to upgrade again when they release a phone supporting that to gain that support.
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Higher frequencies do not travel as far as low ones.
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Well, I've been misinformed. Thanks for correcting this.
Also, I've seen LTE on Sprint range from 2 Mbps to 12 Mbps. It depends on the area and I suppose signal strength. In one town near me, it's consistently around 4 Mbps, but less populated areas reaches much higher.
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Well, maybe 3G on 800mhz wasn't exactly misinformed. At least not completely.
http://www.extremetech.com/electronics/129995-fcc-approves-3g-and-4g
FCC approved Sprint to use that spectrum for 3G and 4G. This doesn't mean that Sprint will use it for 3G.
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Well, maybe 3G on 800mhz wasn't exactly misinformed. At least not completely.
http://www.extremetech.com/electronics/129995-fcc-approves-3g-and-4g
FCC approved Sprint to use that spectrum for 3G and 4G. This doesn't mean that Sprint will use it for 3G.
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This doesn't change what I indicated earlier, which is that Sprint won't be deploying 3G on 800MHz. Only CDMA 1xAdv and LTE will be deployed in that band.
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Yes to 3g on 800 but no to LTE on 800. They haven't release a phone capable of 4G on 800 yet.
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Correct. The band in question, LTE over 800MHz is LTE Band 26. There is no equipment available that uses this band.
It's actually a huge chunk of sub 1GHz spectrum, 35MHz of bandwidth (including guard bands.) If Sprint can actually deploy this properly, they have the ability to be the best carrier in the US. Here's hoping the network gets deployed by the time we need to upgrade our O1nes.
Reference:
http://niviuk.free.fr/lte_band.php
So of all the Sprint phones on the market today, none of them have any advantage over the One as far as LTE bands go?
This would be good news to me, I thought I might not be able to connect to an LTE tower using a band the One can't use, but the GS4 could.
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So of all the Sprint phones on the market today, none of them have any advantage over the One as far as LTE bands go?
This would be good news to me, I thought I might not be able to connect to an LTE tower using a band the One can't use, but the GS4 could.
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HTC One and S4 use the same bands, but also runs on Rev. 0 and Rev.A (Dunno where I read this)
If anything the One is more fine tuned to Sprint's network than the S4
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Correct. The band in question, LTE over 800MHz is LTE Band 26. There is no equipment available that uses this band.
It's actually a huge chunk of sub 1GHz spectrum, 35MHz of bandwidth (including guard bands.) If Sprint can actually deploy this properly, they have the ability to be the best carrier in the US. Here's hoping the network gets deployed by the time we need to upgrade our O1nes.
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http://niviuk.free.fr/lte_band.php
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FYI Sprint does not own all 35MHz of that spectrum in that band.... Sprints 800Mhz LTE will be a 5x5MHz deployment so while it will help some on building penetration and some coverage, it won't be earth shattering and jaw dropping...
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Will most areas with Wimax get LTE? I didn't care too much about this until I read that AT&T Ones get both Wimax and LTE. How exactly does this work? Has it to do with the GSM/CDMA thing?
I was with T-mobile before and you could say I was spoiled by their HSPA speeds. Now its normal for me to get anywhere from 80 to 100 kbps with Sprint. Occasionally I get an LTE signal and speeds upto 1.5 mbps. Would I get faster speeds if I had an older, Wimax phone?
Also, I was told by the Sprint rep that the Nextel towers will be converted to LTE. Is this true?
Where'd you read that att models support wimax?
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It's magic, considering ATT never deployed wimax whatsoever. Sprint is the only major cellular provider who went with Wimax, everyone else went lte or HSPA+
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Will most areas with Wimax get LTE? I didn't care too much about this until I read that AT&T Ones get both Wimax and LTE. How exactly does this work? Has it to do with the GSM/CDMA thing?
I was with T-mobile before and you could say I was spoiled by their HSPA speeds. Now its normal for me to get anywhere from 80 to 100 kbps with Sprint. Occasionally I get an LTE signal and speeds upto 1.5 mbps. Would I get faster speeds if I had an older, Wimax phone?
Also, I was told by the Sprint rep that the Nextel towers will be converted to LTE. Is this true?
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All of this is true except AT&T ONE getting WiMax. As was said, AT&T has never had WiMax and the ONE is not capable of it. Whoever told you that is either mistaken or lying.
Depending on where you are WiMax could be more available then LTE as of right now. As they shut down the 800mhz Nextel towers, Sprint will be rolling out LTE 800 on those is the story most have heard.
I'm in Chicago and we have a lot of wimax. But also a lot of lte too. I did get faster speeds on wimax, but I could only get wimax if I were outside. So... I kept it off and only used wimax if I really needed it. It was a major battery hog.
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I had og Evo and Evo 3d which were both wimax phones. The signal was much more consistent than I get on my Evo lte and HTC one. As far as speed, I HAVE spiked to 22mbps once or twice on lte but I have to be right there in that sweet spot which is on the side of a major hwy. I can pull 5-8 mbps on an average lte signal but I am constantly loosing it and switching back to 3g and going back and forth. My wimax signal was a goo 7-8 inside my house. Lte is very inconsistent and my area is suppose to be over 80% complete I think last time I checked.
And like gk said wimax was a battery hog. I could never get half a day if I left my wimax radio on and off the charger. My lte devices last a lot longer. This one I take it off the charger in the morning and still have half battery at night most times
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Will most areas with Wimax get LTE? I didn't care too much about this until I read that AT&T Ones get both Wimax and LTE. How exactly does this work? Has it to do with the GSM/CDMA thing?
I was with T-mobile before and you could say I was spoiled by their HSPA speeds. Now its normal for me to get anywhere from 80 to 100 kbps with Sprint. Occasionally I get an LTE signal and speeds upto 1.5 mbps. Would I get faster speeds if I had an older, Wimax phone?
Also, I was told by the Sprint rep that the Nextel towers will be converted to LTE. Is this true?
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I would be surprised if it were directly true. The Nextel towers were all IDEN-based and are in the process of being torn down. I have no doubt they will be eventually switched to CDMA/3G and then LTE (or maybe built with LTE from the get-go), but probably not until after Sprint rolls out LTE to its existing tower infrastructure.
Not to go off topic too much but when I lived in Columbus Ohio we had pretty good wimax coverage. And in complete honesty the battery hit was hardly any worse than 3g so I would leave wimax on all of the time. I could go a full 12 hour day at work on my 3d with moderate usage and get home with 30 percent left. Similar comparisons in battery life on my 4g, shift, and et4g as well. Apparently its similar to any other signal issue.... But if its a good area wimax doesn't hurt the battery too bad at all really.
I used to get really inconsistent lte a month ago. I'm not sure if they improved the network to correct it or what but when I unlocked the bootloader, I saw a very consistent experience. Not sure if wiping everything did something to correct it, placebo, or new towers were flipped on the same day.
But I only get 2-3 mbps on lte
Wimax I was getting about 8-10
In any case... Sprint is the only major wimax carrier in the USA and att doesn't use it - as mentioned earlier, OP was lied to about this.
Also, I hear the Nextel iden network will be configured to lte on 800 mhz which our phones don't support. None do at this point actually.
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wimax is awful & I live in a "good" wimax area. Besides Sprint quit building on the network once they realized it sucked.
All right thanks for the clarification guys. I was suspicious when I read it (no idea where, some random forums). Since Sprint is letting go of Wimax and replacing their Wimax devices with LTE, would it be safe to assume that places with "Best" Wimax coverage and/or Nextel coverage will get LTE at some point (6 mos-1 year)? It's really sad when it takes 30-45 minutes do download Cut the Rope at the local mall (in silicon Valley).
Sprint lte (any carried for that matter) is very signal dependent. Stronger signal = faster connection. If u connect to lte and its a slow connection, chances are you are connected to a site farther away then u think, or have a site (one that serves your voice coverage) between the lte site and your phone. All sprint sites are being converted to lte. Most Nextel sites are not. During the conversion, sprint is putting up panels has house both voice and lte on 1900mhz, voice on smr800 and lte on 800smr. No 800smr lte devices are out yet, will will be starting this fall. When Nextel is turned off (last day of this month), sprint will start turning on the 800smr on voice and lte but may take some time (especially lte side). 800smr voice is already being broadcasted in parts of the county, such as in Chicago. Most if not all native sprint coverage will have lte by this time next year. For much more info, go to s4gru.com
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I had Wimax on my evo3d as well as for my home internet through clear. Wimax signal is much weaker than LTE it is easily affected by weather and even wind.it has poor building penetration, hence Sprint dumped the Wimax program and began with lte!!!
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I had Wimax on my evo3d as well as for my home internet through clear. Wimax signal is much weaker than LTE it is easily affected by weather and even wind.it has poor building penetration, hence Sprint dumped the Wimax program and began with lte!!!
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It wasn't so much wimax sucked based on the symptoms you described, it's the frequency Clearwire was using. They used 2500 mhz for wimax and if it were lte on that same band, we'd still have poor building penetration and weak signal.
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No 800smr lte devices are out yet, will will be starting this fall.
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the htc one should actually be capable of 800smr lte with some changes to the radio config (and possibly radio software too, but i'm pretty sure that won't be necessary)... once 800smr lte is up and running somewhere near where i live i'll be able to test and figure out what exactly needs to be done to make it work.
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the htc one should actually be capable of 800smr lte with some changes to the radio config (and possibly radio software too, but i'm pretty sure that won't be necessary)... once 800smr lte is up and running somewhere near where i live i'll be able to test and figure out what exactly needs to be done to make it work.
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it is not capable of 800smr lte....its a hardware thing (no 800smr antenna within the phone) with the HTC ONE, check out the FCC docs...
https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1898233 (note page 5, only LTE BAND 25 (g block, 1900 mhz, sprints current lte network)
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-342-updated-all-for-htc-one-htc-one-for-all/
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it is not capable of 800smr....its a hardware thing (no 800smr antenna within the phone) with the HTC ONE, check out the FCC docs...
https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1898233 (note page 5, only LTE BAND 25 (g block, 1900 mhz, sprints current lte network)
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-342-updated-all-for-htc-one-htc-one-for-all/
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first link just says "You are not authorized to access this page.", but i have already seen the fcc filings for the sprint htc one.
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CDMA1X + EV-DO band classes 0, 1, 10 (i.e. CDMA1X + EV-DO 850/1900/800)
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Antenna 0 max RF ERP/EIRP: 20.10 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 850), 23.80 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 1900), 19.23 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 800), 12.30 dBm (LTE 1900)
Antenna 1 max RF ERP/EIRP: 13.78 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 850), 13.58 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 1900), 14.27 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 800), 23.63 dBm (LTE 1900)
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cdma band class 10 is 800smr. both antennas work for 800smr. the radio can transmit and receive on 800smr frequencies.
it's very likely that a simple configuration change will enable lte on 800smr. if that turns out to not be the case, it's definitely possible to do it by modifying the baseband software.
I asked Sprint support about a month or 2 ago if the One would be compatible with 800 when they launch it and they said none of the currently released phones are capable and none will be released until Q3 or Q4
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Note that by the time Sprint actually deploys in large-scale any non-1900mhz LTE, you'll be up for a new phone (that is, 2 years). It's going to take a long, long time. They haven't even started yet.
hotaru2k3 said:
first link just says "You are not authorized to access this page.", but i have already seen the fcc filings for the sprint htc one.
from the second link:
cdma band class 10 is 800smr. both antennas work for 800smr. the radio can transmit and receive on 800smr frequencies.
it's very likely that a simple configuration change will enable lte on 800smr. if that turns out to not be the case, it's definitely possible to do it by modifying the baseband software.
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that radio (antenna) will not work on 800smr LTE. Voice 800smr yes, lte, no
The Sprint version of the HTC One is limited to band 25 LTE 1900. It does not support either of Sprint's upcoming LTE bands -- band 26 LTE 800 and band 41 TD-LTE 2600.
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Vincent Law said:
Note that by the time Sprint actually deploys in large-scale any non-1900mhz LTE, you'll be up for a new phone (that is, 2 years). It's going to take a long, long time. They haven't even started yet.
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Sprint has started an 800smr LTE fit in Montana.
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gk1984 said:
I asked Sprint support about a month or 2 ago if the One would be compatible with 800 when they launch it and they said none of the currently released phones are capable and none will be released until Q3 or Q4
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This is correct :good:
***THIS IS LIKE THE OLD "WILL MY WIMAX DEVICE WORK ON LTE" DEBATE " lol ....we all know how that ended up
Has anyone gotten their z1 LTE working on canada fido?
i've got a 6903, and i swear before i inserted the apn manually i've seen 4g on my status bar. could be just my imagination.
i've tried internet.fido.ca for apn and i'm limited to H+. when i go online and they suggested ltemobile.apn, i couldn't get data at all.
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Has anyone gotten their z1 LTE working on canada fido?
i've got a 6903, and i swear before i inserted the apn manually i've seen 4g on my status bar. could be just my imagination.
i've tried internet.fido.ca for apn and i'm limited to H+. when i go online and they suggested ltemobile.apn, i couldn't get data at all.
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I'm on Rogers, which is the same service and I get 4G using ltemobile.apn. I'm more than happy with this and have been getting 38 mbit on speedtest.
I've not seen the LTE icon tho, and either I cannot get it in this area (which seems unlikely as I am in downtown Vancouver) or this phone will not do LTE as it does not have the 700 band.
30Seconds said:
I'm on Rogers, which is the same service and I get 4G using ltemobile.apn. I'm more than happy with this and have been getting 38 mbit on speedtest.
I've not seen the LTE icon tho, and either I cannot get it in this area (which seems unlikely as I am in downtown Vancouver) or this phone will not do LTE as it does not have the 700 band.
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did you mean you still get 4g speeds even though you didn't get the lte icon?
kazukiflame said:
did you mean you still get 4g speeds even though you didn't get the lte icon?
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I see a 4G icon and have not seen the LTE icon. I've read the manual and it mentions a LTE icon but not a 4G icon, but that's what I have. For all I know I am actually getting LTE.
I had thought that LTE was even faster then this, especially in major cities near antennas.
But from what I have read a lot of LTE users do not even get the speeds I am seeing so I am quite pleased with this phone's data connection as it is.
I am on TELUS and when i originally got the phone it only showed 4G. I have however updated to 534 and it now shows LTE. Hope that helps?
hoklun said:
I am on TELUS and when i originally got the phone it only showed 4G. I have however updated to 534 and it now shows LTE. Hope that helps?
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I'm on 534 now. Can I ask what sort of speeds you are getting?
LTE coverage on the Z1 is more spotty though compared to my previous Note 2. Also Telus lacks access to 2600mhz LTE from Bell/Rogers which offers higher speeds.
hey guys, if you are getting anything above 30mbps/download.. especially member 30 Seconds who is getting 48mbps, that's definitely LTE. I just wanted to confirm that you DONT need the 700Mhz to be on LTE. I called Fido on separate occasions due an initial 'not-so-bright' rep who take ages to answer my question and eventually needed to ask her co-worker for help (I don't know how they get hired.. lol) and both Fido employees have stated that ONLY 2100 and 2600 Mhz is needed for LTE. I questioned if support for 700Mhz is needed and they said no. I still am not able to test out my Z1 yet which is still in the box so hopefully somebody can come forward and verify that they see their C6903 showing the LTE symbol on Fido or Rogers.
The frequencies are used differently.
High frequency in urban areas for throughput. Low frequency for less dense areas, more range and penetration. So, what you"need" depends on where you are basically.
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I recommended my buddy over to sprint. He got some big Samsung new phone. I forget the name. Any way. He comes in tells me the service sucks. I said your gonna have to deal with that lol, so he brings it to the store and they do a new speed update called spark. He comes back. He does a speed test on LTE getting 13 mbps download. I do it on my HTC One and not even get a Meg. I call up sprint and tell me the spark update is not for the flagship phone HTC One. Only Samsung phones!! Can you believe it?? Unbelievable. I got screwed again. Time to sell the phone and move on.
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Samsung sounds like the obvious choice, can't think of a reason to spend any more time using this inferior phone, Unbelievable man!
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Spark is Sprint's next version of LTE and I believe runs on a different frequency than their normal LTE, its also only available in select cities. Because it runs on a different frequency our HTC One's radios don't utilize it yet, if he got a newer device they may have the new radios built in. The next version of the One should have it as well I would assume.
fierceeagle2003 said:
I recommended my buddy over to sprint. He got some big Samsung new phone. I forget the name. Any way. He comes in tells me the service sucks. I said your gonna have to deal with that lol, so he brings it to the store and they do a new speed update called spark. He comes back. He does a speed test on LTE getting 13 mbps download. I do it on my HTC One and not even get a Meg. I call up sprint and tell me the spark update is not for the flagship phone HTC One. Only Samsung phones!! Can you believe it?? Unbelievable. I got screwed again. Time to sell the phone and move on.
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A Google search or a search of these forums would tell you the NEW Samsung GS4 hardware supports spark (the first runs of the S4 do not). The HTC One does not as the phone was released prior to spark being around. That said, why you would buy an HTC One or a new galaxy phone a month before they are to release the new refreshed versions is beyond me. You didn't get screwed, you failed to do your research.
indiscriminant said:
Spark is Sprint's next version of LTE and I believe runs on a different frequency than their normal LTE, its also only available in select cities. Because it runs on a different frequency our HTC One's radios don't utilize it yet, if he got a newer device they may have the new radios built in. The next version of the One should have it as well I would assume.
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That sums it up exactly.
If I'm not mistaken the HTC One Mega is spark capable.
SeriesOfTubes said:
That sums it up exactly.
If I'm not mistaken the HTC One Mega is spark capable.
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One Max*
No one can incorporate it into an HTC one radio? Or do we need different hardware?
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Some of y'all amaze me...
It is hardware dependent.
It cannot be implemented with a simple software or radio update.
HTC also has it on the One Max and upcoming devices.
Samsung is not the only device (LG/Nexus 5, HTC, LG...)
It is hardware dependent and cannot be implemented.
The sky is blue, water is good for you and global warming is a myth.
Did I mention that the One will NEVER be able to use Spark? :laugh::laugh:
Spark utilizes the 800/1900/2500 MHz bands. The HTC One (2013 Flagship phone) only can handle 800/1900 and not 2500. 2500 Mhz is the band that WiMax was using a few years ago. Only a few cities have Spark, and it will be faster, but how much speed do you need? Normal LTE should be in the 5 - 10 meg+ range and even good 3g is about 1 to 1 1/2 megs per second.
the.emilio said:
Some of y'all amaze me...
It is hardware dependent.
It cannot be implemented with a simple software or radio update.
HTC also has it on the One Max and upcoming devices.
Samsung is not the only device (LG/Nexus 5, HTC, LG...)
It is hardware dependent and cannot be implemented.
The sky is blue, water is good for you and global warming is a myth.
Did I mention that the One will NEVER be able to use Spark? :laugh::laugh:
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If I could hug you... Well i totally wouldn't because weird. But I'd want to.
weidnerj said:
Spark utilizes the 800/1900/2500 MHz bands. The HTC One (2013 Flagship phone) only can handle 800/1900 and not 2500. 2500 Mhz is the band that WiMax was using a few years ago. Only a few cities have Spark, and it will be faster, but how much speed do you need? Normal LTE should be in the 5 - 10 meg+ range and even good 3g is about 1 to 1 1/2 megs per second.
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From what I was told by a executive of Sprint Spark is tri-band . This means the Spark phones have the ability to search out the strongest signal and switch to it. FYI , you are walking down the street using the strongest signal the phone has found, say the 800 band. Going into a building the phone sees that inside the building the 2500 band is the strongest. the phone automatically switches to this stronger band.
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From what I was told by a executive of Sprint Spark is tri-band . This means the Spark phones have the ability to search out the strongest signal and switch to it. FYI , you are walking down the street using the strongest signal the phone has found, say the 800 band. Going into a building the phone sees that inside the building the 2500 band is the strongest. the phone automatically switches to this stronger band.
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It is correct on being tri band, but that is using all three bands at once. It is called aggregation. You wouldn't get any fast speed that LTE if only using one band because that is what is used today. But using three bands at once and aggregating them together, you can get 3 times the speed. FYI, 800 MHz is the best frequency, travels further and penetrates buildings better than the 2500 MHz frequency. Sprint for years and years was based on 1900 MHz and recently started to use the old 800 MHz freed up from Nextel.
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It is correct on being tri band, but that is using all three bands at once. It is called aggregation. You wouldn't get any fast speed that LTE if only using one band because that is what is used today. But using three bands at once and aggregating them together, you can get 3 times the speed. FYI, 800 MHz is the best frequency, travels further and penetrates buildings better than the 2500 MHz frequency. Sprint for years and years was based on 1900 MHz and recently started to use the old 800 MHz freed up from Nextel.
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Lol I was kinda confused reading this to. How does one get better signal inside a building using 2500 MHz compared to 800 MHz.
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luigi311 said:
Lol I was kinda confused reading this to. How does one get better signal inside a building using 2500 MHz compared to 800 MHz.
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This one is kinda easy. Being that Clearwire sites are independent and don't run NV you might be right under one as opposed to a Sprint site that's further away. In that case the 2500 signal will be stronger. Like at my home for example.. I get 1-2 bars of LTE 1900 but my WiMAX devices will have full bars although it's on the 2500 frequency. It's actually quite sad WiMAX on my old S2 kicks the crap out of LTE on my Note 2 in speedtests but then again Hartford is saturated in WiMAX..
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weidnerj said:
Spark utilizes the 800/1900/2500 MHz bands. The HTC One (2013 Flagship phone) only can handle 800/1900 and not 2500. 2500 Mhz is the band that WiMax was using a few years ago. Only a few cities have Spark, and it will be faster, but how much speed do you need? Normal LTE should be in the 5 - 10 meg+ range and even good 3g is about 1 to 1 1/2 megs per second.
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It can only handle 1900 LTE not 800, there's no dualband LTE device. It can do 800 voice like the rest of the other non triband phones and that's it. Not to correct you or anything it's just reading that can mislead others lol
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