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[Q] Power Consumption Exceeds Supply

I frequently receive a notification pop up indicating something like, "that the device power consumption currently exceeds the supply. Please plug in."
I take care to exit unused applications, etc, but this still occurs. In fact, I have tried rebooting to ensure nothing is left running in the background. Oddly, it occurs EVEN WHEN PLUGGED INTO THE CAR OR USB outlet... Most often this occurs when I'm using the device for navigation, so GPS, and DATA will be on. The notice has also popped up during other applications. It has happened when using LTE but also when LTE is disabled.
Is this something that everyone is experiencing? If you are, can you please post your Service provider, your SPECS, any mods, or if you have made any progress in stopping it. Lets see if we can track this down.

Mad Medik said:
I frequently receive a notification pop up indicating something like, "that the device power consumption currently exceeds the supply. Please plug in."
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That's strange. I've never seen a message like that. It doesn't sound like something native to Android / Sense, do you have any battery monitoring / power control apps installed that could be giving this message? How long does your phone last on a charge if you don't plug it in?

I've seen that error before. I wasn't using the USB cable and charger that came with my phone and that cable was damaged in the USB socket. Have you tried other plugs?
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The reason you are probably seeing that on car or USB charger is due to then not proving the right amount of power. If you have the screen brightness set high and using navigation it uses quite a bit of power. Most USB and car chargers usually only provide I believe a half amp where as most phones like a charger that users 1 amp.
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Ive had that happen once when I was playing a really graphics intense game. I was over at a friends house and had it plugged into his computer to charge and was showing him how much better a game looked on my phone than his and it did that. I was using the 3 usb ports on the front of his tower, and he also had his phone and a headset plugged in that front hub as well, and since that hub is powered by one connection on the motherboard I just figured the 3 devices (mainly the 2 phones) were just drawing too much power at the time.

I have had it happen when I was playing a graphics intensive game while plugged into USB on my computer, but never when plugged into AC or car charger.

Thanks for the replies. Good to know it is not just my device.
Unfortunately, my problem has compounded. While I was using it last night, plugged into a USB in the car, it drained enough to shut itself down. I let it sit for a bit and tried to boot it up again. It quickly shut off again. I plugged it into the HTC wall charger over night. When I got up in the morning, it still wouldnt turn on. I tried pulling the battery, replacing it and plugging in again. The LED lights up orange for about 4 seconds, goes off and stays off. It wont turn on.
I left it plugged in for the day while I was out, and nothing. It still won't power up. I notice the battery is cold, further indicating to me that the issue is that it is not being charged at all (rather than a charged battery in a dead device).
I have tried two different USB cables and tried both the wall adapter as well as the computer USB port. Nada... Unfortunately I don't know anyone with a Holiday, so I think I will have to go to the store tomorrow and see if someone will be kind enough to charge my battery in a store phone for an hour or something...
Anyhow, once I get it running again, I want to avoid this in future. I currently have it Network unlocked, and Bootloader unlocked. I have installed CWM Recovery 5.5.0.4, and Rumrunner Beta 11. There was talk that a version of CWM Recovery was not allowing the device to charge while it was off. I am thinking that this is perhaps the culprit in my case. Although I thought that was for 5.0.2.7 (or something similar)?
Any input would be appreciated.

I would find someone with a vivid and try on it, maybe the battery is dead.
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Mad Medik said:
Thanks for the replies. Good to know it is not just my device.
Unfortunately, my problem has compounded. While I was using it last night, plugged into a USB in the car, it drained enough to shut itself down. I let it sit for a bit and tried to boot it up again. It quickly shut off again. I plugged it into the HTC wall charger over night. When I got up in the morning, it still wouldnt turn on. I tried pulling the battery, replacing it and plugging in again. The LED lights up orange for about 4 seconds, goes off and stays off. It wont turn on.
I left it plugged in for the day while I was out, and nothing. It still won't power up. I notice the battery is cold, further indicating to me that the issue is that it is not being charged at all (rather than a charged battery in a dead device).
I have tried two different USB cables and tried both the wall adapter as well as the computer USB port. Nada... Unfortunately I don't know anyone with a Holiday, so I think I will have to go to the store tomorrow and see if someone will be kind enough to charge my battery in a store phone for an hour or something...
Anyhow, once I get it running again, I want to avoid this in future. I currently have it Network unlocked, and Bootloader unlocked. I have installed CWM Recovery 5.5.0.4, and Rumrunner Beta 11. There was talk that a version of CWM Recovery was not allowing the device to charge while it was off. I am thinking that this is perhaps the culprit in my case. Although I thought that was for 5.0.2.7 (or something similar)?
Any input would be appreciated.
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Make sure you have beta2 of the recovery which resolves this issue, I too have the Bell Raider and have yet to see this error. I'm running stock with bloat removed and rooted with beta2 recovery. Just go in the recovery if you do not see beta2 written in the CWM header you don't have the latest.

rquiett said:
Most USB and car chargers usually only provide I believe a half amp where as most phones like a charger that users 1 amp.
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It looks like this is bang on. Apparantly computer USB ports for USB 1, 1.1 are minimum 200 mA with 500 mA recommended. Not sure about USB 2.0. Interestingly there is a proposal for USB 3.0 to allow for 20 Amps or more so you could easily power a laptop and other devices through a USB connection.
The HTC Holiday draws something more than 500 mA and presumably a max of 1 Amp as this is what the included HTC wall charger is rated for.
Anyhow, I guess I will have to pick up a new car charger, because the USB port in my car only pushes 500 mA max, and same for my current car charger.

I noticed that when I would remove and reinsert the battery with the device plugged in, the orange light would illuminate for about 4 or 5 seconds, then go off. In the hopes that this meant that the battery was charging for that brief period, I repeatedly removed and reinserted the battery for about 10 minutes this morning, trying the power button each time. It finally booted up. I turned the screen off and left it alone to charge. A few hours later I checked on it and it is up to about 1/3. Anyhow, putting that out there as a last resort if anyone else has a similar problem.
jebise101 said:
Make sure you have beta2 of the recovery which resolves this issue, I too have the Bell Raider and have yet to see this error. I'm running stock with bloat removed and rooted with beta2 recovery. Just go in the recovery if you do not see beta2 written in the CWM header you don't have the latest.
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Thanks. After I let the battery charge right up, I will check that. (I don't want to tempt trouble by rebooting until I have finished a charge). I thought I had the latest version but maybe I borked something in the update.
jebise or other Bell Raider users: Were you able to use the ph39IMG method of flashing? I have had no success with it; I got an error that it was for the wrong type of device. I deleted the zip and used the next method listed in the superguide. However, now I get a series of errors relating to not finding ph39IMG when I boot into HBoot.
Thanks

Mad Medik said:
I noticed that when I would remove and reinsert the battery with the device plugged in, the orange light would illuminate for about 4 or 5 seconds, then go off. In the hopes that this meant that the battery was charging for that brief period, I repeatedly removed and reinserted the battery for about 10 minutes this morning, trying the power button each time. It finally booted up. I turned the screen off and left it alone to charge. A few hours later I checked on it and it is up to about 1/3. Anyhow, putting that out there as a last resort if anyone else has a similar problem.
Thanks. After I let the battery charge right up, I will check that. (I don't want to tempt trouble by rebooting until I have finished a charge). I thought I had the latest version but maybe I borked something in the update.
jebise or other Bell Raider users: Were you able to use the ph39IMG method of flashing? I have had no success with it; I got an error that it was for the wrong type of device. I deleted the zip and used the next method listed in the superguide. However, now I get a series of errors relating to not finding ph39IMG when I boot into HBoot.
Thanks
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if you use the fastboot method to flash the recovery, you dont need the PH39IMG. the 'error' messages you see when you boot into HBOOT is normal. every time you boot into HBOOT it looks for the PH39IMG.zip on your sdcard

PH39IMG.zip did not work for me had to use fastboot. As PG states its normal to get those errors, because it looking for PH39IMG.zip and can't find it.

Pirateghost said:
if you use the fastboot method to flash the recovery, you dont need the PH39IMG. the 'error' messages you see when you boot into HBOOT is normal. every time you boot into HBOOT it looks for the PH39IMG.zip on your sdcard
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PH39IMG.zip did not work for me had to use fastboot. As PG states its normal to get those errors, because it looking for PH39IMG.zip and can't find it.
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Thanks for clarification on the "normal" errors I should expect. Im not a total noob, but feel like it, switching to HTC. I understand I can use the fastboot method and have done so. But do I have to? The PH39IMG.ZIP would be much more user friendly. So, why would I be getting an Invalid Device error with the PH39IMG.zip from the superguide post? Is it specific to the AT&T Vivid or something?
Anyhow, after all the problems I was having, I decided to wipe/factory reset and restore from a Backup made in CWM recovery right after installing Rumraider for the first time. I am just waiting for the device to reboot (has been on the HTC boot screen for about 10 minutes now... :-/

Mad Medik said:
Thanks for clarification on the "normal" errors I should expect. Im not a total noob, but feel like it, switching to HTC. I understand I can use the fastboot method and have done so. But do I have to? The PH39IMG.ZIP would be much more user friendly. So, why would I be getting an Invalid Device error with the PH39IMG.zip from the superguide post? Is it specific to the AT&T Vivid or something?
Anyhow, after all the problems I was having, I decided to wipe/factory reset and restore from a Backup made in CWM recovery right after installing Rumraider for the first time. I am just waiting for the device to reboot (has been on the HTC boot screen for about 10 minutes now... :-/
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once you have done your recovery you dont need to do it again until you update the recovery with a newer version. its a one time thing, unless you relock stock RUU the device.
the ph39img.zip was configured for at&t vivid. you would probably need to modify it for any other holiday device.
if you are restoring from a backup, did you make sure and flash your boot.img from your backup first? otherwise you will be stuck at that HTC screen for a lot longer....just boot into HBOOT and flash the stock boot.img

Strange behavior charging the phone.

Hello.
I have my Vivid with everything working good, S-OFFed and rooted. I have a stock ICS rom which works fine for my needs. The thing is I never leave the battery to completely die, everytime the phone warning me about low battery, I plug the AC charger or just the USB cable to my PC and then charge the battery.
However last night I fell asleep and the battery went down to 0% and the phone turned off. Now it seems that the phone isn't able to wake up the battery. I don't know how, but the battery got like 1% of charge and the phone woke up. Once it woke up, it get the charge perfectly but I took off the charger to go to my room and then the phone turned off, it seems it could not stand with such a little charge. Now I connect it to AC or PC and turn on the orange LED by 3 seconds, then the LED turn off, then the screen goes from black (turned off) to grey (on, but showing no image) and the LED blinks on orange to green. In AC is the same, and in USB you hear the usb-on sound but in the phone the behavior is exactly the same.
Obviously the battery isn't getting an initial charge and that's why the phone never wake up.
Why is happening this? Is there a way to fix it?
Help please!

Try to borrow a friend's battery and flash a different recovery. When my phone wouldn't charge while powered down, it was because chargemode was broken in my recovery.

formicae said:
Try to borrow a friend's battery and flash a different recovery. When my phone wouldn't charge while powered down, it was because chargemode was broken in my recovery.
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Yes but, any suggestion about a good and stable recovery?
You're 100% this thing is because of that?
Thanks in advance.

Nothing's 100%, but I had the EXACT same problem as you described. Worse, I didn't know anyone with a Vivid at the time, so instead I kept plugging it in and unplugging it, getting that one second of charge until I was able to boot the ROM and let it charge to 100%. It took forever.
I've been using WCX recovery since the first version WildChild released, I've never had a single problem since I switched. I don't think you can get it here anymore, though, you might have to find his forum (it's distributed with his ROMs).
Edit: Looks like the All-in-one tool in the Dev forum contains a WCX recovery you can flash.

formicae said:
Nothing's 100%, but I had the EXACT same problem as you described. Worse, I didn't know anyone with a Vivid at the time, so instead I kept plugging it in and unplugging it, getting that one second of charge until I was able to boot the ROM and let it charge to 100%. It took forever.
I've been using WCX recovery since the first version WildChild released, I've never had a single problem since I switched. I don't think you can get it here anymore, though, you might have to find his forum (it's distributed with his ROMs).
Edit: Looks like the All-in-one tool in the Dev forum contains a WCX recovery you can flash.
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OK thank you so much... I'll look someone with a Vivid.

formicae said:
Nothing's 100%, but I had the EXACT same problem as you described. Worse, I didn't know anyone with a Vivid at the time, so instead I kept plugging it in and unplugging it, getting that one second of charge until I was able to boot the ROM and let it charge to 100%. It took forever.
I've been using WCX recovery since the first version WildChild released, I've never had a single problem since I switched. I don't think you can get it here anymore, though, you might have to find his forum (it's distributed with his ROMs).
Edit: Looks like the All-in-one tool in the Dev forum contains a WCX recovery you can flash.
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you can download the WCXJB root pack from the superguide thingy in the development forum.. its in there

XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
you can download the WCXJB root pack from the superguide thingy in the development forum.. its in there
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Thank you so much man, I'll do it right away.
The thing is I have no friend with an HTC Vivid. Is there a way with 2 wires and a 9v AC adapter to give some charge to the battery and then put it in the phone and then still charging from the OEM AC adapter?

formicae said:
Nothing's 100%, but I had the EXACT same problem as you described. Worse, I didn't know anyone with a Vivid at the time, so instead I kept plugging it in and unplugging it, getting that one second of charge until I was able to boot the ROM and let it charge to 100%. It took forever.
I've been using WCX recovery since the first version WildChild released, I've never had a single problem since I switched. I don't think you can get it here anymore, though, you might have to find his forum (it's distributed with his ROMs).
Edit: Looks like the All-in-one tool in the Dev forum contains a WCX recovery you can flash.
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I flash the WCX recovery, but I'm still having this issue. After flash it do I must do something? Like run the recovery or something?
Thanks.

Well, I would try to go into recovery to make sure the flash worked.
If you're running a working chargemode recovery and your phone still isn't charging while powered off, I don't know what the problem could be. Have you tried a different cable/charger?

formicae said:
Well, I would try to go into recovery to make sure the flash worked.
If you're running a working chargemode recovery and your phone still isn't charging while powered off, I don't know what the problem could be. Have you tried a different cable/charger?
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Well right now I'm in the recovery and it says in the bottom:
Code:
RA Revamped
Build : Made for WCX ILLUMINATI SERIES by GINM
So I assume everything has properly flashed.
Beforeflash the recovery I've tried with several chargers.

[Q] Phone won't start, but buttons vibrate

Now I experiencing a major problem
the phone battery died on me earlier tonight, I tried one time to see if i could of get it on but no juice
Now I get home it's not coming on at all
I have it plugged in one time was able to get to the boot loader screen bow nothing
and when i touch the buttons in front I feel the phone vibrating but nothing comes on not even the charging light
what do you think is the problem?
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You are using clockworkmod...
Switch to twrp
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rignfool said:
You are using clockworkmod...
Switch to twrp
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk 2
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How do I do that if I can't get it on?
Or will I be able to still accedd the bootloader if I plug it up to the PC to flash it?
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positiveg said:
How do I do that if I can't get it on?
Or will I be able to still accedd the bootloader if I plug it up to the PC to flash it?
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Nope - you'll need to charge it externally, then you need to get new recovery. CWM doesn't support off mode charging, so if your battery dies, you have to charge it out of the phone. Go to ATT store and ask them if they can charge it for you for a while

Just a question what is off mode charging?
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Ok guys I think I got it.
What I did was
Take out the battery
Put the batter back in
Plug in the charger
When the light come on hold down Vol down and power button
When phone boots to bootlader choose recovery
you will get white HTC creen, leave phone plugged in for a while 30 mins or so
then while leaving charger plugged in attempt to power phone pn
phone should boot regularly
Finally.... don't let phone battery run down or get external charger or change to twrp as one person suggested.
I'm just glad that I was able to get my phone booted, as I live outside the US can't go to an ATT store and HTC phones aren't the most popular here.
I'm wondering if I should order a battery from Amazon just in case :silly:

Run vivid with no battery?

Is this possible? I can get it to boot into hboot, then remove the batt. With charger plugged in and it still functions. When I try to boot from recovery from hboot, it switches to HTC screen then shuts off. Can't be a hardware issue since it boots to hboot with no batt. Would be cool feature if I could boot with no batt.
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk 2

XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
Is this possible? I can get it to boot into hboot, then remove the batt. With charger plugged in and it still functions. When I try to boot from recovery from hboot, it switches to HTC screen then shuts off. Can't be a hardware issue since it boots to hboot with no batt. Would be cool feature if I could boot with no batt.
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Going into the bootloader doesnt require that much power... Hence why it works with no battery. but once you start going into recovery it starts loading more and more stuff requiring more battery and having no battery and only being pluged in isnt enough juice for it

There is a hack I did with my droid 2 where you get a usb cord and put the wires on the terminals of the phone to give it power and it will boot up I forget what it was but I think I bricked it with no battery power and had to do that to boot to bootloader and flash the file to return it to stock I would Google that and try it out
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I'm gonna use this phone as a media server when I get my new one. Didn't want to leave in the battery plugged in all the time. I check it out. And the battery provides the less than the charger. If you use a phone while charging, it charges. Which means charger is outputing more than batt.
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[Q] going to go to T-Mobile to turn my nexus 6 in for new one

I've been having the issue a lot are having where the phone shuts down and won't boot back up, it acts like the battery is to low when in fact it is not. my question is should I set my phone back to factory i.e. factory image relock bootloader or can I turn it in as is with twrp on it and my custom rom??

NiNJAwitaRaZR said:
I've been having the issue a lot are having where the phone shuts down and won't boot back up, it acts like the battery is to low when in fact it is not. my question is should I set my phone back to factory i.e. factory image relock bootloader or can I turn it in as is with twrp on it and my custom rom??
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Fastboot flash the factory image. Go here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-flash-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008
Then follow this tutorial to safely relock your bootloader > http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-safely-lock-bootloader-android-5-1-t3067302

NiNJAwitaRaZR said:
I've been having the issue a lot are having where the phone shuts down and won't boot back up, it acts like the battery is to low when in fact it is not. my question is should I set my phone back to factory i.e. factory image relock bootloader or can I turn it in as is with twrp on it and my custom rom??
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You have a fairly common software issue, before returning the phone, try the fix;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/solution-phone-shutting-battery-empty-t3041226
Edit: Note that your battery IS, in fact, too low.
Basically, the shutdown is triggered by the battery's ACTUAL VOLTAGE, which has gone out of sync with the battery level gauge (percentage reading). So it is shutting down at the proper time for a depleted battery.
The kicker though, is that the CHARGER is based on the battery level percentage, and not the actual voltage, so it isn't actually charging fully when you plug it in. Effectively, you are operating fully within the bottom half of the battery's capacity.

thank you for the replies and what not... im basically stuck now...installed sdk and all when i go into terminal and type in fastboot devices i get a message saying command not found...im on crunchbang linux 32bit..
edit nevermind i remembered what all i had to do to get it working the last time... got it all is well!

I have Jump! and they charged me $5 to replace it, then it came with, I think, LMY22D. I let support know they should be more careful.
Also, my battery was swelling in addition to the low battery shutdown.
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