Just wanted to report a recent experience.
I was in the Netherlands, using an Italian Vodafone SIM on a US Play Store purchased Nexus 5.
I decided to try the native tethering. It worked. However, I also immediately received an SMS from Vodafone telling me I was using data outside my plan, and my account was debited 6 Euro for a couple of seconds of updating the NY Times on my Nexus 7 via tether.
So beware - even if your carrier does not block tethering, the Nexus 5 somehow reports that tether. It was not just packet inspection here, as the Nexus 7 tablet presumably uses the same type of data as the phone.
ronwi2 said:
Just wanted to report a recent experience.
I was in the Netherlands, using an Italian Vodafone SIM on a US Play Store purchased Nexus 5.
I decided to try the native tethering. It worked. However, I also immediately received an SMS from Vodafone telling me I was using data outside my plan, and my account was debited 6 Euro for a couple of seconds of updating the NY Times on my Nexus 7 via tether.
So beware - even if your carrier does not block tethering, the Nexus 5 somehow reports that tether. It was not just packet inspection here, as the Nexus 7 tablet presumably uses the same type of data as the phone.
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Not here in USA on at&t. Been doing it for years ..... as long as u use it just as a internet connection your fine ... If u start using a lot of data then yes they will send u a warning .
Since 4.2 carriers have been able to see when you're tethering.
Unfortunately I don't know a way around it, though thankfully my carrier simply blocks my internet for 30 minutes when it detects tethering
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Yeah, my S4 works fine, but when I use my N5 it detects it,, I am also on AT&T
I'm using a1 Austria network (5gb internet limit) and I don't seen this. I used tethering (150mb) and not received anything about it from my network. I don't understand why they charge more when you already paid for your internet in your phone. This is insane..
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Anyone know what the mechanism they added in 4.2 for reporting tethering to carriers is?
Is there an Xposed module that disables it, or are there custom ROMs with this "feature" disabled?
im from italy, with wind mobile I never had problems with thetering because they just simply allow it! 10gb per month at 12euros.
perfect for working on the go with my pc and phone as modem.
my suggest is to look for companies that allow it at good prices, and not keep contracts with thefts that dont.
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i wished i had unlimited LTE cap! i only get 6gb with tethering allowed on rogers LTE network in toronto,canada, i'd gladly pay 100-150 bucks a month for UNLIMITED LTE, i'd cancell my home internet( which is 45Mb/s unlimited for around 70bucks cdn.
manekineko said:
Anyone know what the mechanism they added in 4.2 for reporting tethering to carriers is?
Is there an Xposed module that disables it, or are there custom ROMs with this "feature" disabled?
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There are ways just not sure I can list them here. Do a search online and you will find some.
I think some ROMs might turn off the feature but not sure which ones do this.
Wifi Tether Router, in the Play Store. Developer is Fabio Grasso.
I think you can circumvent with iptables, I saw it on a HTC One X thread.
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This worked for me
Check out the last post on this page (and then read from there). This fixed Tmo's tethering detection for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512674&page=7
SickIcarus said:
Check out the last post on this page (and then read from there). This fixed Tmo's tethering detection for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512674&page=7
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Having had a very close friend try this successfully on ATT in North America, I can also vouch for it working. I don't know how truly secure it really is, however, this person has never had an issue.
On AIO network
I am on AIO wireless , before I switch from iPhone to Nexus 5. The Personal Hotspot feature is remove from my iPhone and I switch to Nexus 5 , few days ago I was trying the Tethering on my phone and so far no SMS or call from my provider saying about my tethering.
benedictspeedy said:
I am on AIO wireless , before I switch from iPhone to Nexus 5. The Personal Hotspot feature is remove from my iPhone and I switch to Nexus 5 , few days ago I was trying the Tethering on my phone and so far no SMS or call from my provider saying about my tethering.
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The carrier can choose to do what it wants with the information. However, it seems clear that the carrier gets the information that tethering is taking place with the Nexus 5.
Thought this was common knowledge, not hard for carriers to detect tethering even if the OS doesn't tell them - packets have to be routed. Some choose to deal with it, some don't.
Don't see why people take the risk - £15 in the UK for an unlimited plan with tethering.
Cactus42 said:
Don't see why people take the risk - £15 in the UK for an unlimited plan with tethering.
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A lot of people here don't live in the UK, and don't have the option of paying just 15 for tethering. Most places in the states charge an arm and leg for tethering, and it's usually limited to a few hundred megs.
Cactus42 said:
Thought this was common knowledge, not hard for carriers to detect tethering even if the OS doesn't tell them - packets have to be routed. Some choose to deal with it, some don't.
Don't see why people take the risk - £15 in the UK for an unlimited plan with tethering.
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I don't know that it is common knowledge that the phone somehow tells the carrier. I think that many of us assumed there was packet inspection, but given that I was tethering a Nexus 7 this appears to be something different.
Taubin said:
A lot of people here don't live in the UK, and don't have the option of paying just 15 for tethering. Most places in the states charge an arm and leg for tethering, and it's usually limited to a few hundred megs.
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I thought it was usually just the UK that get's the crap deals
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I don't know that it is common knowledge that the phone somehow tells the carrier. I think that many of us assumed there was packet inspection, but given that I was tethering a Nexus 7 this appears to be something different.
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I said I thought it was common knowledge the carriers could tell when you're tethering, not that the phone tells them. They don't have to wait for an OS that tells them when there's a device other than the connected one transmitting data through it. Your phone is, for all intents and purposes, routing packets. They don't even need to inspect the packets, there's numerous ways to see that data didn't originate at the device they should.
ronwi2 said:
Just wanted to report a recent experience.
I was in the Netherlands, using an Italian Vodafone SIM on a US Play Store purchased Nexus 5.
I decided to try the native tethering. It worked. However, I also immediately received an SMS from Vodafone telling me I was using data outside my plan, and my account was debited 6 Euro for a couple of seconds of updating the NY Times on my Nexus 7 via tether.
So beware - even if your carrier does not block tethering, the Nexus 5 somehow reports that tether. It was not just packet inspection here, as the Nexus 7 tablet presumably uses the same type of data as the phone.
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I switched carrier exactly because of this, VodafoneIT is as far as I know the only big Carrier in italy that charges for tethering. I switched carrier because of this sh*t. They made me pay 4 Euro every day I tried to use Tethering...
and now I can happily confirm that WIND and TRE don't charge anything.
As Vodafone is now charging 19,- € for switching plans, my advice is, switch carrier.
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So I'm running a rom (Cognition) which enabled tethering and mobile AP.... but I haven't tried using them yet... does anyone know if there's any way for AT&T to see that I'm using tethering without a tethering plan, and bill me for it? I heard about iphone owners using jailbreak tether getting texts from AT&T telling them to buy a tethering plan... does anyone know if on Android they're able to do the same thing?
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So I'm running a rom (Cognition) which enabled tethering and mobile AP.... but I haven't tried using them yet... does anyone know if there's any way for AT&T to see that I'm using tethering without a tethering plan, and bill me for it? I heard about iphone owners using jailbreak tether getting texts from AT&T telling them to buy a tethering plan... does anyone know if on Android they're able to do the same thing?
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i doubt it .. but to be sure we would need a pay to inspect packets .
No, at&t cannot tell the difference of packets being passed on their network.
No carrier has that capability. The amount of resources needed to monitor packets in a way that is effective, at an effective rate, is basically not cost effective at this point.
The tethering notices are completely based off of data usage. It's been determined that most carriers take notice of you if you exceed 5gb. So if you manage to use over 5gb of data without tethering, you could very well receive one of these texts.
With that said, they can see packet routes. So if your already being watched, and are tethering, and happen to be using it for say...pirating, it could lead to further action. I've only heard one case of this, but still worth noting.
Also, contract prevents at&t, or any carrier for that matter, from adding tethering to your bill. Their work around for that is that if you exceed a data limit, or a fair use limit, they can and will charge you for that.
I tether causally; causally being non-data heavy lurking. I've owned a blackberry bold 9000, an iphone 3g, and now my captivate...all were made tether capable. All were used for tethering. None had received a notice.
Hope this is helps!
tl;dr- no, at&t can't tell if you're tethering.
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If you download gigs and gigs because you use your phone as your primary internet they'll get on your case.
they do break your contract if they add tethering charges. You can end it without an early termination penalty within 30 days.
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KritikSS nailed it spot on. Some anecdotal evidence, but I've been lightly tethering (usually less than 1GB/month) for years now and haven't heard anything.
i think the kb1 and jj4 roms have a way to inform att if you are tethering but should not be an issue if you are using a custom rom sepecially if the rom is a port.
Dani897 said:
i think the kb1 and jj4 roms have a way to inform att if you are tethering but should not be an issue if you are using a custom rom sepecially if the rom is a port.
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Yes, this is what I was worried about... I know that actual deep packet inspection is unlikely (and could be defeated with vpn), but it doesn't help if there's actually a 'phone-home' mechanism telling them you're tethering. My understanding was that this is what's going on with the iphones, though I could be wrong.
I'm running cognition, which is a kb1 based rom... should I be worried?
As far as a "phone-home" system, the only notification of tethering that would be sent to at&t would be by their own tethering app on the phone. If you happen to flash another ROM, as you've stated that you've already done so, this app should no longer be on your phone and functioning, thus unable to "phone-home."
And even then, that app wont allow tethering until it receives notice from at&t that you've purchased the package needed to do so.
Simply put, just use an app such as "wireless tether" to do your tethering and you'll be completely fine.
I would like to bring this back from the dead. AT&T KNOWS! They sent me a text that stated something like: from your recent activity you will be upgraded to the tethering plan..... I believe it referenced tether specifically though
If I got that text, I would call and say they violated the contact and end the contract.
They cannot alter the contract without you agreeing to the terms.
infyx said:
If I got that text, I would call and say they violated the contact and end the contract.
They cannot alter the contract without you agreeing to the terms.
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Wrong. From the TOS:
AT&T data plans are designed for use with only one of the following distinct device types: (1) Smartphones, (2) basic and Quick Messaging phones, (3) tablets, and (4) LaptopConnect cards, and (5) stand-alone Mobile Hotspot devices. A data plan designated for one type of device may not be used with another type of device. For example, a data plan designated for use with a basic phone or a Smartphone may not be used with a LaptopConnect card, tablet, or stand-alone Mobile Hotspot device, by tethering devices together, by SIM card transfer, or any other means. A data tethering plan, however, may be purchased for an additional fee to enable tethering on a compatible device. An Activation Fee may apply for each data line.
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This has been rehashed many times. The no unauthorized tethering has been in the TOS for years.
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I was a little excited to hear about the introduction of the new "Unlimited" data plan starting tomorrow. However, upon further perusion, I've discovered a screenshot and confirmed it with both of my local T-Mo store managers. This plan cannot be combined with hotspot/tethering option.
So my question is this: Will there be a workaround for this? Or do I have to stick with my current plan? I hit the 10gb cap within 2 weeks, because in this rural area, I use my phone as my general internet. :\
technosquirrel said:
I was a little excited to hear about the introduction of the new "Unlimited" data plan starting tomorrow. However, upon further perusion, I've discovered a screenshot and confirmed it with both of my local T-Mo store managers. This plan cannot be combined with hotspot/tethering option.
So my question is this: Will there be a workaround for this? Or do I have to stick with my current plan? I hit the 10gb cap within 2 weeks, because in this rural area, I use my phone as my general internet. :\
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i'm tethering it right now and i'm on the new truly unlimited data plan. I had to set it to samsung gs2 as that was the closest related phone on the list that worked. generic ics or auto didn't work. i had to install the apk and re install it for it to work. then it took some playing with to get it to connect, but it works now. you can get it here.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850972 just a heads up though. I wouldn't go crazy with your internet. any indication that you are tethering and tmobile could do a number of things. read the fine print as this would be a violation of your contract.
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
unfortunately...
my phone is rooted with the stock rom and although tethering and wifi do work.....it's blocked by tmobile. you can get away with wifi tethering for a few minutes, then you'll get a text from tmobile with a link to "upgrade" to a plan that allows this feature. I've tried both usb tethering and wifi tethering which end in the same result
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my phone is rooted with the stock rom and although tethering and wifi do work.....it's blocked by tmobile. you can get away with wifi tethering for a few minutes, then you'll get a text from tmobile with a link to "upgrade" to a plan that allows this feature. I've tried both usb tethering and wifi tethering which end in the same result
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Use a different wifi tethering app like the one below
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.googlecode.android.wifi.tether
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I upgraded to the new unlimited plan..... I've used "FoxFi" 2 or 3 times for tethering my Galaxy Tab 7.... T-Mobile hasn't seemed to catch on yet (stock/unrooted Note)
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joemm said:
Use a different wifi tethering app like the one below
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.googlecode.android.wifi.tether
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that is the one i'm using =(
Got my SIM card yesterday from T-Mobile.com
Got my Nexus 7 GSM today.
Cut up my full sized sim to fix into micro sim slot. Worked fine.
Inserted SIM into tablet. Got signal. So far so good.
Nexus 7 doesn't have Phone.apk or MMS.apk on launcher.
Fired up Wi-Fi, went to go Play Store.
Installed Go SMS Pro.
Set up my sim card online. Activated with $30 100 minutes, UL txt, 5GB plan.
Had to retry "nearest city" options and zip codes, but eventually got it to work.
Got my SMS notification on my tablet saying account is good.
Refilled for a month.
Got my SMS notification of the refill.
Setup a T-Mobile account with my prepaid number. All good.
0KB used.
Reboot tablet. I get "Sign into network" which is a html redirect page.
Every page redirects to sign in page. Can never sign in.
Research online.
Turns out it's detected as a tablet. IMEIs are apparently flagged by T-Mobile.
BAH!
I'll root and mess around my /efs/nv_data.bin and reboot back, but so far :-/
Edit: No /efs folder
CLShortFuse said:
Got my SIM card yesterday from T-Mobile.com
Got my Nexus 7 GSM today.
Cut up my full sized sim to fix into micro sim slot. Worked fine.
Inserted SIM into tablet. Got signal. So far so good.
Nexus 7 doesn't have Phone.apk or MMS.apk on launcher.
Fired up Wi-Fi, went to go Play Store.
Installed Go SMS Pro.
Set up my sim card online. Activated with $30 100 minutes, UL txt, 5GB plan.
Had to retry "nearest city" options and zip codes, but eventually got it to work.
Got my SMS notification on my tablet saying account is good.
Refilled for a month.
Got my SMS notification of the refill.
Setup a T-Mobile account with my prepaid number. All good.
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Reboot tablet. I get "Sign into network" which is a html redirect page.
Every page redirects to sign in page. Can never sign in.
Research online.
Turns out it's detected as a tablet. IMEIs are apparently flagged by T-Mobile.
BAH!
I'll root and mess around my /efs/nv_data.bin and reboot back, but so far :-/
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That really sucks.
While I'm probably going to go with the $15 AT&T plan, the $30 TMO plan you referenced sounds like a perfect one for people who want a lot of data, SMS capabilities and some minutes for light talk usage. I was hoping it would work. Have you tried talking to T-Mobile about it?
Thanks for sharing. Hopefully there is a solution.
phonic said:
That really sucks.
While I'm probably going to go with the $15 AT&T plan, the $30 TMO plan you referenced sounds like a perfect one for people who want a lot of data, SMS capabilities and some minutes for light talk usage. I was hoping it would work. Have you tried talking to T-Mobile about it?
Thanks for sharing. Hopefully there is a solution.
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I have the $15 AT&T plan (actually $10 unlimited) that I'm using for my Galaxy Note 10.1. I would try swapping around but the sim sizes are different. I'm pretty sure that TMobile will say that the Nexus 7 is a data-only device and won't let me do it.
Google has stripped WiFi tethering, MMS and Phone from the device and I'm sure it's no coincidence.
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I have the $15 AT&T plan (actually $10 unlimited) that I'm using for my Galaxy Note 10.1. I would try swapping around but the sim sizes are different. I'm pretty sure that TMobile will say that the Nexus 7 is a data-only device and won't let me do it.
Google has stripped WiFi tethering, MMS and Phone from the device and I'm sure it's no coincidence.
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"Stripped" might be too strong a word.
The non-3G versions never had any of those functions. I think it's more likely that they simply chose not (or forgot) to include them in the 3G version.
SMS actually does work, but inbound only (according to rumors) by default. But you can apparently use an SMS app to do outbound fine. There is another thread discussing the phone mod. Apparently a framework change can enable it, but no one has been able to test whether it works or not yet to place calls.
I imagine it would be trivial for a developer to add tethering support, though I don't see the need personally. Most people only care about tethering a non-3G tablet to a phone, not the other way around.
What $10 AT&T plan? Is that the "share your data" plan or an independent pre-paid one?
I don't need a lot of data, but I want to be able to have some if necessary. I also don't want to pay too much for it. $15 seems reasonable, but $10 is better - assuming I don't already need to have a phone with them.
Did you register your sim to N7 IMEI or normal phone IMEI? Wonder if that makes a difference.
Did you ensure the APN was what phones use for data rather than tablets/modems? Tweakker on the market will set it for you if you are unsure.
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Did you register your sim to N7 IMEI or normal phone IMEI? Wonder if that makes a difference.
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I did all 1s a couple of times but I when I successfully activated I used the N7 IMEI and changed the "nearest city" option. I strongly doubt that was the issue since other people who have this problem with the TMobile branded Springboard say the SIM works on other devices. I can't test this since I have no other device (tablet or smartphone) that takes microSIM.
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Did you ensure the APN was what phones use for data rather than tablets/modems? Tweakker on the market will set it for you if you are unsure.
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I checked them all manually. They were a little different than standard APNs (had a masked password and server field), but I modified them. I was still redirected. I'm pretty sure it's IMEI detection. I'll try it anyway. Edit: Tweaker is not supported on Play Store. I'll have to search for the APK
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I checked them all manually. They were a little different than standard APNs (had a masked password and server field), but I modified them. I was still redirected. I'm pretty sure it's IMEI detection. I'll try it anyway. Edit: Tweaker is not supported on Play Store. I'll have to search for the APK
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wow operators starting to b a-holes eh?
Look for Tweakker with two k's
When I try to install Tweakker from the store, Google Play reports that it is not compatible with my N7. (I did upgrade it to 4.2.)
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"Stripped" might be too strong a word.
The non-3G versions never had any of those functions. I think it's more likely that they simply chose not (or forgot) to include them in the 3G version.
SMS actually does work, but inbound only (according to rumors) by default. But you can apparently use an SMS app to do outbound fine. There is another thread discussing the phone mod. Apparently a framework change can enable it, but no one has been able to test whether it works or not yet to place calls.
I imagine it would be trivial for a developer to add tethering support, though I don't see the need personally. Most people only care about tethering a non-3G tablet to a phone, not the other way around.
What $10 AT&T plan? Is that the "share your data" plan or an independent pre-paid one?
I don't need a lot of data, but I want to be able to have some if necessary. I also don't want to pay too much for it. $15 seems reasonable, but $10 is better - assuming I don't already need to have a phone with them.
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On any AT&T family plan with shared unlimited messaging, you can add unlimited data for $10 on dumbphones. If you don't have shared unlimited texting then it's $15/mo per dumbphone
Also, TMobile will let you use your voice plan package if you accept to pay an additional $15/mo to use "Mobile Broadband" which is using it on data-only devices (laptops/tablets)
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Can you download it from the app store and upload the apk?
I'm confused. You put your SIM card into the device after cutting it down and once you booted it up, you had signal? You saw the H and everything? But you could not access tmo's data network immediately? But then you logged into the play store with wifi?
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I'm confused. You put your SIM card into the device after cutting it down and once you booted it up, you had signal? You saw the H and everything? But you could not access tmo's data network immediately? But then you logged into the play store with wifi?
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That's correct. I've already been shuttling a cut-down T-Mobile SIM between devices. When I have the SIM in the Nexus 7, I get a 3G or an H, but then when I try to make any web requests, I get redirected to My T-Mobile. (In addition, Android prompts me with a "Sign into network" item in the notification area.) I can log back into My T-Mobile with any browser, but that doesn't accomplish anything.
I then connect to the Play Store over WiFi but it won't let me download Tweakker.
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That's correct. I've already been shuttling a cut-down T-Mobile SIM between devices. When I have the SIM in the Nexus 7, I get a 3G or an H, but then when I try to make any web requests, I get redirected to My T-Mobile. (In addition, Android prompts me with a "Sign into network" item in the notification area.) I can log back into My T-Mobile with any browser, but that doesn't accomplish anything.
I then connect to the Play Store over WiFi but it won't let me download Tweakker.
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Had you activated that sim card before on another phone? I am curious if you can activate it first one a phone, say a One S because it uses the micro sim, maybe thats all it needs? Hmm...
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Had you activated that sim card before on another phone? I am curious if you can activate it first one a phone, say a One S because it uses the micro sim, maybe thats all it needs? Hmm...
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Yes. I've been using the SIM with an adapter in a Galaxy Nexus and an unlocked iPhone 4S just fine, and I have it happily getting data in my Galaxy Nexus as we speak.
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Yes. I've been using the SIM with an adapter in a Galaxy Nexus and an unlocked iPhone 4S just fine, and I have it happily getting data in my Galaxy Nexus as we speak.
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Thanks guys for letting us know that Tmobile has blocked this. I kind of expect this since they have been cracking down...on the switching SIMS between different devices types.
Specially with them in touch with google on Nexus 4 and also were preparing to partner with Google to sell the Nexus 7 3G with a Tmobile SIM (like Google is doing with ATT) according to some leaked Tmo news pictures..., We should have expected this already.
It was a few months back they blocked the opposite: using data broadband plans SIM in unlocked phones like Nexus. We used to be able to do that.
Still it's unfortunate. Thanks for saving me to try the same and be stucked with a SIM i can not use effectively. To the OP; you can still use the micro SIM in a regular device without an adapter. You just need to position it right and may be try a couple times. I did not this until I saw somebody do it. Since then if I have cut a sim, I can still use it without an adapter. Just make sure you position it right....by try and error...or by inserting a regular SIM and picking up where the metal needs to touch the phone.
For all if you really want Tmobile...you can use the Special Walmart plan...which gives 60 days if you buy the $35 or $50 plans. To a point it may be equal or better deal than the 5gig $30.....depends if you do not use too much data...you can use: $35 for 3.5 gig for 60 days....or $50 5 gig for 60 days.
That's the way I may go or I may go the way of Ultra Mobile MVNO which is coming up with pay as you go @ 4.9 cents per mb in January. This is expensive but it's 4g hspa+ pay as you go to use only while needing fast data in areas where no wifi is there or my freedom hotspot has reach is fast 500 mb limit or no Clear coverage is being picked up.
We should also try to see if Tmobile is doing the same blocking while using MVNO....plans. If that's the case then the above Ultra plan won't help. In order to get better data deals we would need Voice/data plans from mvno..But that in itself is not useful unless we're able to enable both voice...and data on 3g nexus. Ultra has plans with data or voice only while data costing 2 cents per mb. Or Straightalk/Net10 $45 plans if only the voice can also be enabled.
MVNO do not usually have good deals on data only plans.
On the other side ATT broadband plans are interesting for 3gb for $30. Not quite 5 gig but better coverage.
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For all if you really want Tmobile...you can use the Special Walmart plan...which gives 60 days if you buy the $35 or $50 plans. To a point it may be equal or better deal than the 5gig $30.....depends if you do no use too much data...on your use: $35 for 3.5 gig for 60 days....or 5 gig for 60 days.
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Can you share some more info on this plan?
I just signed up for the AT&T $15 30day/250MB plan. But this sounds a lot better!
I'm generally around Wi-Fi, so don't need a ton of data. But I'd rather pay (effectively) $15/month for 2-2.5GB then 250MB.
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Can you share some more info on this plan?
I just signed up for the AT&T $15 30day/250MB plan. But this sounds a lot better!
I'm generally around Wi-Fi, so don't need a ton of data. But I'd rather pay (effectively) $15/month for 2-2.5GB then 250MB.
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well......doing some reading I got this from Walmart....Not good news. Now I understand why when I switched my SIM from a USB stick device bought at Walmart to a USB stick sent by Tmobile it kept blocking me and redirecting me as with the OP.... It took multiple support calls to Tmobile tech reps...to no avail. Until the recreated my account with free data posted to it and with the regular 30 days limit. They told me I could switch back to the Walmart special at the end of the month...but never was able to get it done....I ended up selling the USB stick....so it seems there's IMEI checking on SIM activated with the 60 days specials....so this won't help on Nexus 3G
Access 4G Internet on the go with the T-Mobile $35 Prepaid Mobile Broadband Pass. It offers 3.5GB of data usage and is good for 60 days only at Walmart. Pass is only eligible on broadband devices purchased at a Walmart after 6/1/2012. The pass includes no activation fee, no annual contract, no credit check and no overages. And it works with any new T-Mobile Laptop Stick or mobile hotspot purchased at Walmart. If you regularly surf the web, check email and update your social network, this card is a good choice.
T-Mobile $35 Prepaid Mobile Broadband Pass (Email Delivery):
Provides 3.5GB of data usage
*Good for 60 days
No activation fee, annual contract, credit check or overages
Works with any T-Mobile Internet device
*60 day pass is only eligible on broadband devices purchased at Walmart after 6/1/2012
THis pretty much sums up how I feel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYwWKEc8c88
Ironically, as soon as I posted this, I got the shipping notification at 3 AM CST. But Im still sad about the tmo thing not working
I had hoped that I could use my 3g Nexus 7 on the $30 tmobile plan. I was thinking of registering on the plan when I traveled. I guess the only hope is that someone figures out a work around or tmobile offers a decent data plan. At least, I was primarily planning to use 3g overseas.
It looks like I will be teathering my N7 for for data when away from wifi. This is a pain. In addition, I could have waited and ordered my 3g N7 from B&H Photo and avoided shipping and tax.
Does anyone know if we will be able to utilize cellular data tethering using the HTC One developer edition on an unlimited AT&T plan? That could put the developer edition over the top for me compared to the subsidized device from AT&T. Thanks.
Its the same device, if its not in your contract that you can tether then no you can't without violating your contract.
There are various ways to tether if you wish to, but the device isn't going to magically trick at&t that you aren't tethering
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Its the same device, if its not in your contract that you can tether then no you can't without violating your contract.
There are various ways to tether if you wish to, but the device isn't going to magically trick at&t that you aren't tethering
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When I got the unlocked galaxy nexus tethering wasn't disabled like it has been on every subsidized android device I've owned. Wasn't sure if that was a nexus thing or an unlocked/unbranded device thing.
So does anyone know if tethering would be enabled or is it something that AT&T has the ability to block from the carrier end?
On the developer edition it should work without having to pay extra. AT&T branded phones have addition software that ties into your account to allow or disallow tethering. This won't have that software obviously.
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So does anyone know if tethering would be enabled or is it something that AT&T has the ability to block from the carrier end?
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It's likely that you will be able to tether, since the phone will not check with the carrier if the tethering feature is enabled. Regardless, AT&T will still notice that you are tethering, because they can differentiate packets originating from other devices. If you use a lot of data, even just a short tether will raise a flag and you'll get a text or a letter from AT&T, saying that they want to switch your unlimited plan to a capped one.
I bet HTC would or will be providing the dev imei's to att since they all are in bed with the useless carriers.
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It's likely that you will be able to tether, since the phone will not check with the carrier if the tethering feature is enabled. Regardless, AT&T will still notice that you are tethering, because they can differentiate packets originating from other devices. If you use a lot of data, even just a short tether will raise a flag and you'll get a text or a letter from AT&T, saying that they want to switch your unlimited plan to a capped one.
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I've literally been using tethering without paying for it on my unlimited plan for years by buying unlocked phones. They have never noticed. I don't go crazy with it though. I use around 500MB via tethering each month when I'm on the go and need to get some work done.
This is very good news if true. I'll be going with the dev edition.
I'm using a new plan they have called 'mobile share' and it has tethering included for free. I use so little data I went with the 1GB plan (I'm almost always on wifi) but an upgrade isn't terribly expensive.
I had been using a 550 minute, 300MB data plan with no texting for my wife and I but this new plan only costs $15 more and gives us unlimited calls and texting with free tethering on 1GB shared data.
Honestly, if ATT does it like VZW, they have a built-in "entitlement check" in the database of the phone that tells it to talk to the mobile carrier for authentication.
I'm not sure if this phone will try to handshake with ATT for verification, but if it doesn't that is a huge boost to people who'd normally have to pay for it or change plans.
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I bet HTC would or will be providing the dev imei's to att since they all are in bed with the useless carriers.
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Tethering has nothing to do with your IMEI. I've been tethering on a AT&T branded One X (purchased directly from AT&T) practically since it was released last May. The phone will tether properly with any custom or stock rooted ROM, except for AT&T based ROMs; and on the AT&T based ROMs, it will tether with the proper hack.
My bet is that the unlocked One will be able to tether out of the box. But we won't know for certain until the devices are delivered, and somebody tries it.
The other thing to note, as another mentioned, AT&T can (and does) check on the network side for tethering. The exact methods and policies are unknown to probably anyone outside AT&T. But from what folks on XDA suspect, is that if your network usage is high, it will put you under scrutiny by AT&T. They will then look at the data packets, and see you are tethering. They give you one warning by SMS, and if they catch you tethering again, they will add a tethering plan on your account.
However, the monitoring process seems far from consistent. A few XDA users have reported receiving the tethering warning, despite swearing up and down that they never tethering even once. On the other hand, as I mentioned, I've tethered occasionally for years, and never received a warning. But I only use it for limited times, and for limited data amounts. Typically only while traveling, in a hotel where WiFi is not available, WiFi signal is too crappy, or WiFi charge by the hotel is excessively expensive. And then, I usually only tether to down/upload work emails and files, then disconnect.
Keep your usage low, and stay under the radar (so to speak) and you may be okay. But there are no guarantees.
Total Wireless is looking like a great deal. $35 for 1 line with 5GB of data on Verizon! Granted it's capped to 5mbps down but that's enough for my needs.
Just curious- is anybody running it and what is your experience? Does MMS work reliable? Does data work reliably? Do you have to mess around with APNs to get it working?
That's barely even LTE speeds... Glad the speeds work for you, it would never work for me for $5 more a month I have AT&T service, 5GB of data and over 25Mbps. When you're away from home (especially on vacation or visiting a relative for the weekend) that extra 20Mbps is very nice to have.
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Just to let you know, all Verizon mvno's are capped at 5mb/s but I can tell you that AT&T, T-Mobile and I believe Sprint do not cap second rate customers.
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Just to let you know, all Verizon mvno's are capped at 5mb/s but I can tell you that AT&T, T-Mobile and I believe Sprint do not cap second rate customers.
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they all cap their mvnos, just at differing rates. for example, in my neighborhood i get around 60mbps download speeds on tmobile, yet my buddy whos on metropcs(also tmobile) gets around 8mbps download.
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they all cap their mvnos, just at differing rates. for example, in my neighborhood i get around 60mbps download speeds on tmobile, yet my buddy whos on metropcs(also tmobile) gets around 8mbps download.
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I have Straight Talk AT&T. I get 50-60 mbps with a strong signal.
I'm glad I found this thread. I was thinking about trying Total Wireless but 5 mbps, no thanks.
Anyone ever end up connecting their Nexus 6 to total wireless? Their website says its not compatible but I don't believe that since it's an unlocked phone.
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Anyone ever end up connecting their Nexus 6 to total wireless? Their website says its not compatible but I don't believe that since it's an unlocked phone.
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I've been trying for the better part of a month... Ended up having to pay another month on Cricket to reinstate my lapsed service.
Their compatibility checker gives me the go ahead, but i can't actually get service, just ticket numbers... Might end up buying a cheap Total Wireless phone, activate the SIM, then transfer to my unlocked N6. Wouldn't be the worst idea to have a burner around.
I enjoying my Nexus 6 with Ring plus Free $0 per month 5000 Talk/text 6 GB data 200 MMS. LTE Speed @ 25mbps. Joys!
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I just switched my Nexus 6 from Metro PCS to Total Wireless. I decided to switch because Total uses Verizon wireless and we all know how much better VZW signal coverage is. In my area T-Mobile is very spotty but VZW has zero dead spots. I have been on Metro PCS for 2 years due to their unlimited data plan which used to be the only carrier that was fully unlimited without capping data or slowing speeds. On average I used 200GB-300GB a month from daily hotspot use for my Roku player. This is where I knew that owning a Nexus 6 has many hidden perks especially if it's rooted. I had the same experience with my Nexus 5 as well.
My guess is since the Nexus 5 and 6 are not carrier based or restricted by the same rules most other phones are subject to. They usually have to be manually activated for each carrier by the representative which normally have no clue what a Nexus phone is. Since my Nexus 6 is unlocked from the start the protocol is unique. I have used my Nexus on many different carriers as it can be activated with all 4 major carriers as well as any prepaid plans which use the same networks.
So my current status for 3 weeks now is Total Wireless, 35$/Mon. Unlimited talk and text with 5GB of data at full LTE speed. After 5GB you can refill data at 10$ for 3GB. By far the best deal if you are with VZW. Most plans charge 10$ per Gig.
Now that you have a good idea of my history here's the best part, which may be short lived but we will see. As I said my plan is for 5GB of data and I am currently over 260GB as Total Wi has not stopped nor throttled my speed. I have not done any type of hacks or workarounds to trick the system. My phone is rooted with a custom ROM. I use my Nexus 6 as a hotspot when at home to watch TV via Roku.
Before I realized that I was getting unlimited data I had attempted to purchase a refill of data before I reached the initial 5GB since I knew I would need more data to make it to the end of the month. When I went to my account on the TW website, which asked for my phone number or imei #, the site had no record of my phones information therefore I could not make any type of change to my account. I called and tried the automated system with the same results. Now my question is what is going to happen next week when I try and make a 35$ payment for next month. I'm not worried about TW expecting me to pay for the data used considering I have no control over when or how they limit usage. I realize that ultimately its just "data" and that's how the networks make billions by controlling the amount available. I also realize this is a nexus issue because this has happened with other carriers. This is why I will always own a Nexus phone. Not that this will always be working out in my favor, but its been 2 years and I've been able to bypass many regulations by simply owning this phone. For now I'm gonna take advantage of the current technology and I will continue to share my experience with other Nexus owners who may not be aware of the potential benefits that just happen to appear when I least expect it.
Interested in what happens at new month
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I just switched my Nexus 6 from Metro PCS to Total Wireless. I decided to switch because Total uses Verizon wireless and we all know how much better VZW signal coverage is. In my area T-Mobile is very spotty but VZW has zero dead spots. I have been on Metro PCS for 2 years due to their unlimited data plan which used to be the only carrier that was fully unlimited without capping data or slowing speeds. On average I used 200GB-300GB a month from daily hotspot use for my Roku player. This is where I knew that owning a Nexus 6 has many hidden perks especially if it's rooted. I had the same experience with my Nexus 5 as well.
My guess is since the Nexus 5 and 6 are not carrier based or restricted by the same rules most other phones are subject to. They usually have to be manually activated for each carrier by the representative which normally have no clue what a Nexus phone is. Since my Nexus 6 is unlocked from the start the protocol is unique. I have used my Nexus on many different carriers as it can be activated with all 4 major carriers as well as any prepaid plans which use the same networks.
So my current status for 3 weeks now is Total Wireless, 35$/Mon. Unlimited talk and text with 5GB of data at full LTE speed. After 5GB you can refill data at 10$ for 3GB. By far the best deal if you are with VZW. Most plans charge 10$ per Gig.
Now that you have a good idea of my history here's the best part, which may be short lived but we will see. As I said my plan is for 5GB of data and I am currently over 260GB as Total Wi has not stopped nor throttled my speed. I have not done any type of hacks or workarounds to trick the system. My phone is rooted with a custom ROM. I use my Nexus 6 as a hotspot when at home to watch TV via Roku.
Before I realized that I was getting unlimited data I had attempted to purchase a refill of data before I reached the initial 5GB since I knew I would need more data to make it to the end of the month. When I went to my account on the TW website, which asked for my phone number or imei #, the site had no record of my phones information therefore I could not make any type of change to my account. I called and tried the automated system with the same results. Now my question is what is going to happen next week when I try and make a 35$ payment for next month. I'm not worried about TW expecting me to pay for the data used considering I have no control over when or how they limit usage. I realize that ultimately its just "data" and that's how the networks make billions by controlling the amount available. I also realize this is a nexus issue because this has happened with other carriers. This is why I will always own a Nexus phone. Not that this will always be working out in my favor, but its been 2 years and I've been able to bypass many regulations by simply owning this phone. For now I'm gonna take advantage of the current technology and I will continue to share my experience with other Nexus owners who may not be aware of the potential benefits that just happen to appear when I least expect it.
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I don't think being able to go over the data limit was because of the Nexus phone. I once have a 1GB/month hotspot plan with StraightTalk. For the first month, I was able to go 20GB above the 1GB limit and not getting blocked at all. I didn't renew the next month. However, 2 months later, I reactivated my hotspot account and was blocked off at 0.99GB. Apparently, there must be some kind of delay in setting up quota checking for new accounts. After a few months, the check will be put in and the quota will be enforced. I was not penalized for going over 20GB though.
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I just switched my Nexus 6 from Metro PCS to Total Wireless. I decided to switch because Total uses Verizon wireless and we all know how much better VZW signal coverage is. In my area T-Mobile is very spotty but VZW has zero dead spots. I have been on Metro PCS for 2 years due to their unlimited data plan which used to be the only carrier that was fully unlimited without capping data or slowing speeds. On average I used 200GB-300GB a month from daily hotspot use for my Roku player. This is where I knew that owning a Nexus 6 has many hidden perks especially if it's rooted. I had the same experience with my Nexus 5 as well.
My guess is since the Nexus 5 and 6 are not carrier based or restricted by the same rules most other phones are subject to. They usually have to be manually activated for each carrier by the representative which normally have no clue what a Nexus phone is. Since my Nexus 6 is unlocked from the start the protocol is unique. I have used my Nexus on many different carriers as it can be activated with all 4 major carriers as well as any prepaid plans which use the same networks.
So my current status for 3 weeks now is Total Wireless, 35$/Mon. Unlimited talk and text with 5GB of data at full LTE speed. After 5GB you can refill data at 10$ for 3GB. By far the best deal if you are with VZW. Most plans charge 10$ per Gig.
Now that you have a good idea of my history here's the best part, which may be short lived but we will see. As I said my plan is for 5GB of data and I am currently over 260GB as Total Wi has not stopped nor throttled my speed. I have not done any type of hacks or workarounds to trick the system. My phone is rooted with a custom ROM. I use my Nexus 6 as a hotspot when at home to watch TV via Roku.
Before I realized that I was getting unlimited data I had attempted to purchase a refill of data before I reached the initial 5GB since I knew I would need more data to make it to the end of the month. When I went to my account on the TW website, which asked for my phone number or imei #, the site had no record of my phones information therefore I could not make any type of change to my account. I called and tried the automated system with the same results. Now my question is what is going to happen next week when I try and make a 35$ payment for next month. I'm not worried about TW expecting me to pay for the data used considering I have no control over when or how they limit usage. I realize that ultimately its just "data" and that's how the networks make billions by controlling the amount available. I also realize this is a nexus issue because this has happened with other carriers. This is why I will always own a Nexus phone. Not that this will always be working out in my favor, but its been 2 years and I've been able to bypass many regulations by simply owning this phone. For now I'm gonna take advantage of the current technology and I will continue to share my experience with other Nexus owners who may not be aware of the potential benefits that just happen to appear when I least expect it.
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I used my nexus 6 on total wireless but they wouldnt let me activate it becvause I had used it on straight talk and for some stupid reason if you used your phone on another service owned by american movil they wont let you use it on another, stupid right ? Turn down paying customers because of this was just plain stupid.
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I used my nexus 6 on total wireless but they wouldnt let me activate it becvause I had used it on straight talk and for some stupid reason if you used your phone on another service owned by american movil they wont let you use it on another, stupid right ? Turn down paying customers because of this was just plain stupid.
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I was able to transfer my Nexus 6 StraightTalk Verizon service over to TotalWireless on the exact same phone. It is doable now and not too painful. You can read through my experience here
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...et10-StraightTalk-)-VWZ-to-Total-Wireless-VWZ
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I was able to transfer my Nexus 6 StraightTalk Verizon service over to TotalWireless on the exact same phone. It is doable now and not too painful. You can read through my experience here
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...et10-StraightTalk-)-VWZ-to-Total-Wireless-VWZ
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I posted on there too, thanks for the heads up on this. I think once enough fcc complaints are filed against them on this they will either stop it or fcc will go after them I would hope at least. I say fcc should fine them. :good:
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I used my nexus 6 on total wireless but they wouldnt let me activate it becvause I had used it on straight talk and for some stupid reason if you used your phone on another service owned by american movil they wont let you use it on another, stupid right ? Turn down paying customers because of this was just plain stupid.
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M9guy said:
I posted on there too, thanks for the heads up on this. I think once enough fcc complaints are filed against them on this they will either stop it or fcc will go after them I would hope at least. I say fcc should fine them. :good:
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I think all the FCC complaints since Jan until now did have an effect on them. Internally, I think they now have a procedure to switch the billing from one TracFone brand to another including TW. It looks like that was exactly what Julio did for me the second time. The Mark guy probably knew that procedure too but was trying to upsell me a TW phone the first time by scaring me off with the possibility of not being able to keep my number. All in all, the experience now won't be too painful.
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I was on straight talk & switched to Cricket , now Total will not port my # over as they say I am a ST customer. I just filed a complaint.
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I used my nexus 6 on total wireless but they wouldnt let me activate it becvause I had used it on straight talk and for some stupid reason if you used your phone on another service owned by american movil they wont let you use it on another, stupid right ? Turn down paying customers because of this was just plain stupid.
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The Nexus 6 is compatible on any network, whether its prepaid plan or not. If you own it which I'm sure you do then the problem is reps who don't know much about phones especially nexus brand. Most aren't branded to a specific Carrier so the reps don't always know the right answer. I've used mine on many different mvno prepaid carriers and its always the same "issue" but I make sure I get it activated. I still love this phone
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I was on straight talk & switched to Cricket , now Total will not port my # over as they say I am a ST customer. I just filed a complaint.
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I know Tracfone owns Total
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I don't think being able to go over the data limit was because of the Nexus phone. I once have a 1GB/month hotspot plan with StraightTalk. For the first month, I was able to go 20GB above the 1GB limit and not getting blocked at all. I didn't renew the next month. However, 2 months later, I reactivated my hotspot account and was blocked off at 0.99GB. Apparently, there must be some kind of delay in setting up quota checking for new accounts. After a few months, the check will be put in and the quota will be enforced. I was not penalized for going over 20GB though.
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Well I don't see many others posting about unlimited data with other phones plus I know my phone well and its rooted also.
Just jumped on Total Wireless
I added four phones to Total Wireless last night - a Nexus 6, Note 4 and two LG G3s. PAINLESS. I actually called the customer service number and answered their questions (MEID, number to port, etc.). It went so well that my VZW number ported over WHILE I was still on the phone with the rep and dropped my call! Went to work on the road today and had no issues through the mountains of Western NC. Data speeds may be slower but that's not an issue for my family because we don't stream away from WiFi.