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Hi guys,
I just want to ask if it is possible to flash any 4.2.2 Rom over a 4.3 one without changing the Bootloader or Modem (as far as I know kernel there are no other things updated in 4.3 except some features in stock Rom and kernel). I'm sorry if there is a thread like this one out there but I couldn't find it on my phone app
Thanks in advance for your time and help
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Now why would you do that? It's like installing windows ME over Windows 7
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It's because I like to have all the possibilities to personalise nz phone, and Roms like MIUI won't get 4.3 support in the next time it's just my opinion
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4.3's stock kernel sucks hard. I've experienced "unexpectedly closed" errors with certain apps and the device sometimes reboots itself without apparent reason. Had to flash the latest franco's nightly kernel in order to get this faulty release somewhat stable.
Nice GoinGoogle.
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It is possible with custom recovery, not possible with fastboot without updating the bootloader. You may use any modem. You need 4.3 kernel.
EDIT: my bad, it was other way around. Yes, it is possible.
4.3 stinks like hot garbage. I'm not upgrading, and I'm going to downgrade my new N7 to 4.2.2 if possible. 4.3 is like windows ME.
I still have 4.2.2 on my N4 and have only tried 4.3 on my Kindle Fire. From my experience I have little interest in upgrading my N4 for the time being, since 4.3.x will likely fix all the JSS and JWR issues.
Fatherboard said:
4.3's stock kernel sucks hard. I've experienced "unexpectedly closed" errors with certain apps and the device sometimes reboots itself without apparent reason. Had to flash the latest franco's nightly kernel in order to get this faulty release somewhat stable.
Nice GoinGoogle.
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I think your problem is caused by your usage pattern / apps which are not updated for 4.3, combined with unstable root. Don't blame Google unless you experience the same behaviour on unrooted stock.
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Wrong.
I experienced those crashes while on stock, even with google applications. that's a faulty release, not faulty device nor usage. for god sake, even "settings" menu has "unexpectedly closed" on me once.
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Now why would you do that? It's like installing windows ME over Windows 7
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I think it'd be more like going back to Windows 7 Sp1 from Windows 8
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I have had totally different experience with 4.2.2. To be honest I didn't like it at all. I didn't find it as "rock solid" as many other users here. (I came from Galaxy Nexus. Android 4.2 compared to really rock solid jzo54k 4.1.2 was imo buggy as hell. It didn't bring any performance boost but rather did the opposite: BT, WIFI issues, mem leak etc.) Plus I found this low touch sensitivity extremaly irritating. I use rooted stock 4.3 and so far I haven't noticed any bigger issues. Even if I do I really don't see a point to go back to still buggy 4.2.2. I think my device performs much better on 4.3. Maybe it's just a placebo effect, but it feels snappier and smoother. Just my subjective opinion.
Of course I do understand people that miss their favorite custom roms, whose 4.3-versions are still unavailable.
4.2.2 had and has clearly wifi/bt issues (major data stalls, difficulties in re-enabling bt after 20-30 hours of uptime).
These issues were solved. however, I'd expect 4.3 to be as stable as it can be, especially when it took more than 5 months for its release. Unfortunately, that's not the case. not even close, which is rather embarrassing.
I really was expecting for iOS-like smoothness and stability by now.
Fatherboard said:
4.2.2 had and has clearly wifi/bt issues (major data stalls, difficulties in re-enabling bt after 20-30 hours of uptime).
These issues were solved. however, I'd expect 4.3 to be as stable as it can be, especially when it took more than 5 months for its release. Unfortunately, that's not the case. not even close, which is rather embarrassing.
I really was expecting for iOS-like smoothness and stability by now.
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Maybe that's been your experience but my experience has been the exact opposite. It's made my N4 even more of a pleasure to use. It's smoother, snappier, and battery life is amazing. Mind you, I've never really had any problems with 4.2.2 except maybe GPS locking problems, which 4.3 solved. The only real problem with 4.3 is this whole JWR/JSS nonsense.
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4.2.2 had and has clearly wifi/bt issues (major data stalls, difficulties in re-enabling bt after 20-30 hours of uptime).
These issues were solved. however, I'd expect 4.3 to be as stable as it can be, especially when it took more than 5 months for its release. Unfortunately, that's not the case. not even close, which is rather embarrassing.
I really was expecting for iOS-like smoothness and stability by now.
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Not sure what's going on your end but my phone has been rock solid with no FCs at all since upgrading to 4.3 using the factory image (I never go the OTA route)
In case you're both running a stock 4.3 (unrooted), you're more than welcomed to run "angry gran run - running game" by ace viral and watch it boldly & proudly crash. If not on beginning, after few minutes. Just only one example out of many.
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I am on AOKP milestone 1 might update to milestone 2 soon. But what do I have to keep in mind when making the jump to 4.3? Will I be able to downgrade later without problems? I dont understand the modems and bootloader stuff. Plus if I flash 4.3 I will lose root, so how do I flash 4.3 without loosing root? do I root the phone again after flashing? or is there a shortcut?
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Not sure if this is the right place but here goes.
I am on AOKP milestone 1 might update to milestone 2 soon. But what do I have to keep in mind when making the jump to 4.3? Will I be able to downgrade later without problems? I dont understand the modems and bootloader stuff. Plus if I flash 4.3 I will lose root, so how do I flash 4.3 without loosing root? do I root the phone again after flashing? or is there a shortcut?
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You can flash a 4.3 rom in recovery, but its recommended to flash radio and bootloader in recovery.
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DeepPurple15X said:
Not sure if this is the right place but here goes.
I am on AOKP milestone 1 might update to milestone 2 soon. But what do I have to keep in mind when making the jump to 4.3? Will I be able to downgrade later without problems? I dont understand the modems and bootloader stuff. Plus if I flash 4.3 I will lose root, so how do I flash 4.3 without loosing root? do I root the phone again after flashing? or is there a shortcut?
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Android 4.3 ROMs require radio version .84 (or a hybrid 27/84 or 33/84 radio) and bootloader version makoz20i. As Thibaultvw points out radio version .84 and bootloader version makoz20i are both available as flashable zip files and should both be installed before installing a 4.3 based ROM. In addition, Android 4.3 requires SuperSU version 1.51 for working root privileges.
After upgrading the radio and bootloader for Android 4.3, you can restore or install an Android 4.2.2 ROM without changing the bootloader or radio.
frajobs said:
Hi guys,
I just want to ask if it is possible to flash any 4.2.2 Rom over a 4.3 one without changing the Bootloader or Modem (as far as I know kernel there are no other things updated in 4.3 except some features in stock Rom and kernel). I'm sorry if there is a thread like this one out there but I couldn't find it on my phone app
Thanks in advance for your time and help
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Give it a hard go bud lemme know how it works!
Hi, after updated my Note 3 to 4.4.2, my Gear Manager is unstable, it hangs when I'm trying to enter settings or contacts, screen goes black and then i get a FC.
I have searched (like always) but haven't found any solution.
I have tried everything (clear data app, uninstalled GM, wipe my both Gears, nothing changed)
I have made a clean flash of KK on my Note 3.
I have also downgraded GM to 1.5 from 1.6...
I have no more idea of what I can do now.
Fortunately, both Gears works as they should but this GM issues drive me crazy.
Gears are running last ML1 (stock, unroot)
Any help/advice is welcome.
Cheers, Ros
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I have the same problem. I remember reading somewhere that you need to have 1.6 for it to work with Kitkat, but it constantly crashes when entering settings. However i'm not sure if 1.6 has been officially released yet? I'm pretty sure it wasn't when i installed it 2 days ago, so hopefully it will have been fixed when it's hopefully very soon officially released, can't imagine Samsung officially releasing obviously broken software.
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I have the same problem. I remember reading somewhere that you need to have 1.6 for it to work with Kitkat, but it constantly crashes when entering settings. However i'm not sure if 1.6 has been officially released yet? I'm pretty sure it wasn't when i installed it 2 days ago, so hopefully it will have been fixed when it's hopefully very soon officially released, can't imagine Samsung officially releasing obviously broken software.
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i cannot view exchange mails anymore on the device since upgrade to kit kat and new GM
Sounds like it is best to either use old versions, or wait for official. 1.6 and ml1 are leaks
I have the same problem..what I do uninstall gm 1.6..download gm 1.5 at samsung store..reset the gear n not restoring the gear bakup..I have to reset it twice n reboot the phone then it all ok now..im using official poland KK with null 19 (ml1) on gear..
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Stick to official 1.5 version, it is still solid stable, just a bit slow when connecting, wait Samsung release official 1.6, I believe they is some issue on it, that why still not yet get release. Current appear 1.6 is leak version.
By the way I am under MK7 official release for my GEAR ROM, not the leak ML21 as well.
Andrewtst said:
Stick to official 1.5 version, it is still solid stable, just a bit slow when connecting, wait Samsung release official 1.6, I believe they is some issue on it, that why still not yet get release. Current appear 1.6 is leak version.
By the way I am under MK7 official release for my GEAR ROM, not the leak ML21 as well.
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Having seen the problems that KK has brought with it, there is no way I'm letting that software anywhere near my phone or gear. I realise there are those of you that simply MUST HAVE the latest updates, even before they are tested properly, but this update IS NOT READY yet. The differences between JB4.3 and KK 4.4 are so minimal, its just not worth the risk or download at this time. As the old saying goes...."if it ain't Broke........"!!!
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Having seen the problems that KK has brought with it, there is no way I'm letting that software anywhere near my phone or gear. I realise there are those of you that simply MUST HAVE the latest updates, even before they are tested properly, but this update IS NOT READY yet. The differences between JB4.3 and KK 4.4 are so minimal, its just not worth the risk or download at this time. As the old saying goes...."if it ain't Broke........"!!!
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I never regret updates to KitKat and it is official, it is the best ROM so far I use in Note 3. The smoothness is no way any 4.3 ROM can compare. Also this KitKat ROM is solid stable. I don't have GEAR connection or FC issue, if you look against all facing problem is cause of using leak ML1 GEAR ROM + Leak Gear Manager 1.6
The only issue at KitKat is SD card writable issue which can be simply fix and that actually not really Samsung problem but instead KitKat change the requirement, any apps that had that issue just need the dev updates it to fulfill KitKat requirement.
The counterfeit S View cover not working is not a bugs but obvious Samsung did to stop the counterfeit.
What software for my xperia is better????
4.3 or 4.1.2
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What software for my xperia is better????
4.3 or 4.1.2
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4.3 has the best performance for my phone :laugh:
I must admit that i'm finding 4.3 a little sluggish in comparison to 4.1.2.
I also think that there's less display options to play around with. I can't find a way of removing all lock-screen widgets. The one for the camera still appears even when disabled.
I'm also not keen on all the settings menus now being white as its very garish, but thats just a personal thing, and i'm sure I could get a theme to sort that out.
Not seeing any change in battery life, but thats not a bad thing.
I'm also finding that my internet browser crasher more now too.
4.3 is too damn slow
Don't go for the 4.3 update. wait a little time maybe sony will start to iron out the bugs because as of now it is unusable.
I recommend you stay on 4.1 a little longer ... maybe go straight to 4.4.
Forgot to add, the keyboard has been improved and once you get used to the change in predictive text it can be a lot quicker.
Must admit I am toying with the idea of going back to 4.1.
i am using existenz 4.3 rom, its like a butter... :good:
I have 4.3 and I am happy with this update. My phone is way faster, the apps are running and starting a bit smoother so no problems there.
The reported bugs; I HAVENT HAD ANY ONE ENCOUNTERD YET!
Yes the only one I can get is not working Bravia Engine2 but other than that is the update good.
If you are not sure what to do you can always come back to 4.1.2 if you want.
The link about flashing with flashtool can be found in my signature
Quick question though
Does the official backup and restore app works across android versions?
If I have backups from v. 4.1, would they will work in v. 4.3?
Thanks
if u a heavy user and prever stock rom, go for 4.3. in stock 4.1, memory management is main problem 4 me (CM/cm based rom is good memory management, but iam prever sony stock rom). im sure, if u not heavy user, u wont buy xsp . the only issues iam faced till now something my xsp out of memory like this, no solution except reboot (sorry 4 my bad english)
@warok88
I have this problem too,but few days ago i find solution and fix without root!
I like 4.3!
Miui , android 4.2.2 - old, but best if u dont playing 3d games
I´m using 4.3 with DooMKenel and I don´t have problems with ram or freezes, and you can use roms like cyagenonmod for android 4.4.2 or eXistenZ Ultra if you want a rom based on stock firmware
Hi guys,
I'm looking for a way to update my S4 Active to KitKat 4.4.2 or up.
I am currently on 4.2.2, rooted and I have CWM. Below is abit more information about my device:
Model: GT-I9295
BB: XXUAMF7
I am unable to use the OTA and Kies method to update so my last resort is to manually install it myself, the only problem is I can't find where to download the firmware that I need.
If anyone is able to point me in the direction of where it can be downloaded that would be great.
Thanks
ProbablyRaging said:
Hi guys,
I'm looking for a way to update my S4 Active to KitKat 4.4.2 or up.
I am currently on 4.2.2, rooted and I have CWM. Below is abit more information about my device:
Model: GT-I9295
BB: XXUAMF7
I am unable to use the OTA and Kies method to update so my last resort is to manually install it myself, the only problem is I can't find where to download the firmware that I need.
If anyone is able to point me in the direction of where it can be downloaded that would be great.
Thanks
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You can get your stock android frimwares from either Samsung updates or sammobile(samfirmware).
cwm + root = the road is open for latest Android 4.4.4 AOSP
I've tried unofficial /experimental CM11 for some weeks and had some quirks with Bluetooth and camera. Switch to Carbon built July 29th and this has working BT car connection. The camera has more options for tuning.
Carbon http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51466872
Google Apps (gapps) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50632468
- this is the repaired version offered by goo.im/gapps
Or do like most others and search for interesting projects in xda forum S4 Active Development or S4 Active Original Development.
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cwm + root = the road is open for latest Android 4.4.4 AOSP
I've tried unofficial /experimental CM11 for some weeks and had some quirks with Bluetooth and camera. Switch to Carbon built July 29th and this has working BT car connection. The camera has more options for tuning.
Carbon http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51466872
Google Apps (gapps) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50632468
- this is the repaired version offered by goo.im/gapps
Or do like most others and search for interesting projects in xda forum S4 Active Development or S4 Active Original Development.
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Thanks for the info mate. Was really helpful!
I've also read that there are a fair few bugs still being worked out with the KitKat version. Like you said, with the camera app and BT ect..
I'm interested in downloading the "Carbon" version that you spoke about in your post. Is the link you provided the one that you downloaded? Have you noticed many bugs?
Thanks again!
Had a hickup with BT today. But that's the thing with most aosp build of latest kind. You never know what you gonna get.
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Had a hickup with BT today. But that's the thing with most aosp build of latest kind. You never know what you gonna get.
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That makes sense I guess.
Well I managed to download and flash an official 4.2.2 firmware to my phone. Unfortunately it seems like samsung haven't pushed out the 4.4.2 update for Australia yet.
They have pushed it out for New Zealand which is basically just around the corner, so it's odd why they wouldn't do it for Australia.
Do you know of any way to flash an official version of KitKat from another country, say the New Zealand version. What harm can it actually do?
Thanks
I try ROMs and ROMs and ROMs and all are unusable, because the
phone freezes with nameless-5.1.1-20151107-p880-nightly or
reboots when starting apps with euphoria-os-1.1-p880-unofficial-20160208-user or
is extremely slow and is stottering with aosplp-20151122-p880
a..s.o
The apps which lead to a reboot with euphoria work fine with aosp and nameless. Euphoria is fast, faster than nameless, which would be fast enough for me. There are no problems which exist with every ROM.
Does anyone have a recommendation for a ROM for the P880 which works without big problems. At the moment I think about to go back to 4.4 and try beanstalk-4.4.4010-20140904-p880cm
Of course I would be happy to find a ROM with fixed stagefright-bugs, but it looks like to be impossible
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Of course I would be happy to find a ROM with fixed stagefright-bugs, but it looks like to be impossible
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Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66049970&postcount=1195
This is the latest 5.1.1 ROM with security patch level at 2016-04-01. It has all known stagefright bugs fixed so far.
If you wish to report issues on the ROM I shared, then use the thread over there, not here.
MoltenMotherBoard is the last custom ROM that I miss to test. I'm going to try it in the next days.
According to my test, my answer to the thread question is: NO, there's no custom rom working fine for my daily use.
Actually fastest rom was liquid smooth 4.4.4. Our phone hardware outdated. Like the others said this phone is crap
I'm running Euphoria version 1.0-p880-20150130 (Android 5.0.2), it's the best Lollipop based custom ROM for our device in my opinion. Unlike AOSP it has more settings (& features), and it's more stable than later versions of Euphoria. If you want to stick to KitKat, check out the latest CM nightlies.
To be honest, after 2 years of testing custom ROM... today i finally found the best one to keep... STOCK!!!
I've re-discovered the pleasure of see who is calling me at once, not after 20 seconds. I can finally take photos, hear who is calling, open apps without having to wait like 20-30 seconds.
I appreciate the effort of every developer... but at the end, the result is that out of 20-30 custom ROMs for our phone... no one can be used for daily use and being happy with it
bs360 said:
To be honest, after 2 years of testing custom ROM... today i finally found the best one to keep... STOCK!!!
I've re-discovered the pleasure of see who is calling me at once, not after 20 seconds. I can finally take photos, hear who is calling, open apps without having to wait like 20-30 seconds.
I appreciate the effort of every developer... but at the end, the result is that out of 20-30 custom ROMs for our phone... no one can be used for daily use and being happy with it
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having JellyBean running on your device in 2016 is a very very very bad idea.
Here's the issues I found with LG stock JB-4.1.2 ROM v20 euro-open. If you can live with them, then good for you.
- Bluetooth button action broken. Cannot invoke Google Search or Voice Dialer from bluetooth headsets. Fixed in custom ROM such as CM/AOSP KK and LP.
- No update for Google Maps. Version 7 is the final version for v20c. Fixed in CM/AOSP KK/LP.
- No notification from Lock Screen. Fixed in CM/AOSP LP.
- No smart lock to avoid the hassle of entering PINs for known location and known BT device. Fixed in CM/AOSP LP.
- No screen cast. Fixed in AOSP LP.
- No bluetooth tethering. Fixed in AOSP LP.
Actually I'm on stock now (euro 20c), and my version of Maps is 9.25.1.
But yes, you're right...I'm ok because for instance I don't use bluetooth at all.
I still miss to test "AOSP Lollipop 5.1.1 | MoltenMotherBoard"...but my question is: is smooth as the stock? Are these working ? camera, flash, barcode, dialer reader, calls in general..
thanks in advance
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Actually I'm on stock now (euro 20c), and my version of Maps is 9.25.1.
"AOSP Lollipop 5.1.1 | MoltenMotherBoard"...but my question is: is smooth as the stock?
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When I was still on LG stock JB, Maps somehow got updated. But then the device slowed to crawl and I factory reset it and I didn't get Google Play store to update it again. Glad you have it and it works for you.
Barcode and FM radio are not working. If these 2 are important to you, then you should stick with LG stock.
For UI smoothness, I think Lollipop itself has made tons of improvement that it is at least the same or better than JB. Don't take my words for it, you should try it out yourself and pass on the judgement.
I reinstall again LS KK 4.4.4 and updated to latest Mourta's kernel from modaco forum. Phone back to alive.
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I reinstall again LS KK 4.4.4 and updated to latest Mourta's kernel from modaco forum. Phone back to alive.
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please link?
LS 3,2 4.4.4 and mourta's kernel inside of the file. I installed rom and open gapps after a few days wiped cache and updated kernel.
here is the link : http://s4.dosya.tc/server/uqoebl/LS_KK_4.4.4.rar.html
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LS 3,2 4.4.4 and mourta's kernel inside of the file. I installed rom and open gapps after a few days wiped cache and updated kernel.
here is the link : http://s4.dosya.tc/server/uqoebl/LS_KK_4.4.4.rar.html
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i just get an loop bot, i can't install a kernel..